Open 648: Ari's Donner Party Mafia! Game Over! :O

[Bins]

UNVOTE:

Changed my mind. Will vote tomorrow when not on mobile.

[Dunnstral]

I just now realized lane claimed roleblocker

[Dunnstral]

Will second that that was a really bad time to claim and you weren't in immediate danger of being lynched

[gameplay506]

I reread and lo switches reads on dunn and it only happens after others expressed that view.
Before long had no issues with dunn.

That's a flat out lie.
I had Dunn put down as scum in my second set of reads and not my first set of reads sure, but if you actually read my first set of reads I was disagreeing with Dunn about Frnkay being scum.
So no I've never switched my dread on Dunn ever this game.

Disagreeing with someone = scummy to you?

No but you're saying I had no issues with Dunn which I clearly had issues with and then you use that to make an argument that I'm scum for deciding one post later that his vote was actually a pretty scummy move.
You're wording that like I was town reading Dunn before I scum read him which I wasn't. And then if by had no issues with Dunn you meant that I was null reading him that's a horrible argument as that would basically just mean if I decided later that almost anyone was scum your argument that I'm scum fro doing that would be valid in your eyes when clearly going from a null to a scum read is not a scum indicative in of itself.

Lo is town.

Really doe Lane? xDD

Just...no. You're not even trying to defend yourself? I see no town motivation doe? Like you call us morons for you not giving evidence? xDD

I'm really ok with adding pressure to this slot, but I don't wanna lynch it

just

yet. I wanna give him some time to at least defend himself.

VOTE: Lane

This is scum. It cant get more obvious than this.
Also I still see Dunn town
Lynch list atm is Malji, Bins, Cy obv.

[gameplay506]

Anyway I havent been posting much cus u guys are pretty shit and whenever I see the Franky slot being pushed I just rage quit.
Now I suggest anyone who pushed Franky to sheep until the end of the game. Please.

[gameplay506]

Far explain how 462 is town
Like at all

[gameplay506]

Giving up on pagetop I guess.

VC 1.8

Lane0168

(5):

Majiffy

240,

Bins

265, Farside22 451, Shinobi 456,

CyTheFlyGuy

462

CyTheFlyGuy

(2): Gameplay506 52,

Dunnstral

463

Dunnstral

(2): Jaereed 186, Io 227

Majiffy

(1): AlpacaAlpaca 11

Shinobi

(1): Lane0168 461

Not Voting

(1): Realeo 386

With 12 Alive, it takes 7 to hammer.

The day will end on July 30th, 2016 at 10PM EST

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Bolded are prob scum.
I bolded Dunn cus he was on the lane wagon but nothing more i dont think he is scum.

[farside22]

Far explain how 462 is town
Like at all

It's not.

But the unvote after, I'm seriously leaning vi townie.

I see lane claimed

unvote

I need to think about a few things and reread a couple of players before I vote.

[farside22]

Also gameplay what bugs me about lo is she hasn't said much of anything and the fact that as soon as I call her out she comessage into the office lynch to defend herself but say nothing about her scum reads.

What's your thoughts on shinobi?

[farside22]

Also gameplay what bugs me about lo is she hasn't said much of anything and the fact that as soon as I call her out she comes into the game only to defend herself but say nothing about her scum reads.

What's your thoughts on shinobi?

Fucking auto correct.

Fixed above.

[gameplay506]

Shinobi is null always has been. Those questions didn't really strike me as anything and he hasn't really done anything recently( scummy or towny).
Idk if he posted those reads but if not he needs to. I might make up my mind using them.

[gameplay506]

Far the thing ur saying bout lo fits Cy perfectly as well.

[gameplay506]

Like its 1:1

[JaeReed]

Cy is enthusiastic newbtown.
Io is obvtown.

Can we vote scum?
Like, say, Dunnstral? Fair chance Shinobi is the townread I'm wrong on considering his eagerness to attempt to discredit me and lane. Though tbh this is mostly me hunting by Dunn associates to find my incorrect townread, so if on the off chance Dunn is SK that can be disregarded. I do think Dunn is group scum, though.

Farside was in the running as a partner, but page 1 I have reread a few times to reaffirm that cy is newbtown rather than newbscum, and she's still town in the manner she voted him. It reminded me very much of the way I'd expect pista to react in that situation. The rest of the content seemed to run the same line of thought as myself until recently. So I think she's more likely to be my correct townread out of her and Shinobi.

[JaeReed]

@Realeo if I die tonight make sure Dunnstral eats rope. I am dead serious. (and seriously dead if Dunnstral does not eat rope today tbh)

[gameplay506]

Lel

[gameplay506]

Really doe Lane? xDD

Just...no. You're not even trying to defend yourself? I see no town motivation doe? Like you call us morons for you not giving evidence? xDD

I'm really ok with adding pressure to this slot, but I don't wanna lynch it

just

yet. I wanna give him some time to at least defend himself.

VOTE: Lane

AlpacaAlpaca-Super strong town read. Posts like 151 and 287 show really good, pro town questioning.

Do you think those questions were likely to lead anywhere? Do you believe they were necessary to establish a read? Do you believe your intention in what you had originally stated was unclear enough to merit asking those questions?

Dunnstral-Independent thinker. Makes logical pushes but does not tunnel.

Do you believe Dunnstral's faking of a scumread on Franky was logical? Do you believe he has been reassessing his read on Franky? Do you believe his vote on me was anything more than OMGUS?

gameplay-6 268 Really really...bad

What do you believe was bad about those two posts in particular?

Frankie-Seems very isolated from town, but looks to confident to be SK

Why is being isolated from town a scumtell to you? Why is confidence a non-SK tell to you?

"Do you think those questions were likely to lead anywhere? (1) Do you believe they were necessary to establish a read? (2) Do you believe your intention in what you had originally stated was unclear enough to merit asking those questions? (3)"

(1) His questions majority of the time were towards me, I answered them, and I felt it helped town progress by moving it along. Yes, I do think that he should posts reads at some point.

(2) I looked at his meta, and honestly, the face that in his first game, he had full reads list does slightly bother me, and the fact he posts paragrahphs in his second also makes me feel uncertain about how high up he is with town...But now that I have read them, I do think more was needed to make those reads, and I just took Farsides word about it ^^;;

(3) Well again, he mainly asked me questions, and he seemed about confused as everyone else who askes me questions, so I'd say yes, it was merited.

"Do you believe Dunnstral's faking of a scumread on Franky was logical? (1) Do you believe he has been reassessing his read on Franky? (2) Do you believe his vote on me was anything more than OMGUS? (3)"

(1) Where did he say he faked it?

(2)Seeing as his vote is on you, I would say the question doesn't matter as he just seems to have scumreads but is open to other votes.

(3) Not really.

"What do you believe was bad about those two posts in particular?"

How do you not see it? He literally says:

I got town so fk u I aint votin

What type of person actually sees this as pro town? Is he like this in other games too? xD

"Why is being isolated from town a scumtell to you? (1) Why is confidence a non-SK tell to you? (2)"

(1) It is at the beginning of the game. I think the SK would either try to buddy up or try to not look too suspicious.

(2) It's more of an "I'm pretty sure is an evil role but he probably has back up so I don't think he'd be the SK" type thing. For now, it doesn't feel right for him to be SK.
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Honestly, I really, really loved the first and last questions but I didn't feel the need of the other two, especially the second. They feel forced questions, imo.

Btw, for anyone wanting to use this as an argument that I'm just joining the biggest wagon (bc I get that a lot xD), I'm compleltly not doing it for the same reason the other two. xD
VOTE: JaeReed

This is awful like really. He provides 0 arguments for Jae and he tries to avoid doing so on the Lane vote by saying that its a pressure vote. Its obvious af. He has been like this all game.

Calling cy VI or newbtown excited w/e it was on the "too scummy to be scum" basis is ridiculous. Get yourselves together.

[gameplay506]

I imagine cy hammering a claimed town pr and you guys are going to be like "He's newbtown VI excited leave him!!!"
Lol

[gameplay506]

Why not let him dictate the town pr actions? You know cus he is obv town despite being the scummiest one.
Actually..
Cy who do you think is worth being vig'ed, rb'ed and cop'ed tonight?

[gameplay506]

I am serious on this one so please tell me

[Realeo]

What confuses me about Cy is he keep using emoticons like xD and that really throws me away.

gameplay argument is completely valid and to be honest more seems like scum flailing instead of town with questionable fos (shinobi in my case) but the xD though.

At one point, I feel like this is town trying to express himself. On the other hand, this maybe actually classified fillering.

This maybe seem stupid, but this is fucking seriously flustered.

[gameplay506]

Really doe Lane? xDD

Just...no. You're not even trying to defend yourself? I see no town motivation doe? Like you call us morons for you not giving evidence? xDD

I'm really ok with adding pressure to this slot, but I don't wanna lynch it

just

yet. I wanna give him some time to at least defend himself.

VOTE: Lane

Like ffs this posts literally translates into:

I AM SCUM EAGER FOR A LYNCH CMON FFS DIE ALREADY

[farside22]

Far the thing ur saying bout lo fits Cy perfectly as well.

Cy is enthusiastic newbtown.
Io is obvtown.

Can we vote scum?
Like, say, Dunnstral? Fair chance Shinobi is the townread I'm wrong on considering his eagerness to attempt to discredit me and lane. Though tbh this is mostly me hunting by Dunn associates to find my incorrect townread, so if on the off chance Dunn is SK that can be disregarded. I do think Dunn is group scum, though.

Farside was in the running as a partner, but page 1 I have reread a few times to reaffirm that cy is newbtown rather than newbscum, and she's still town in the manner she voted him. It reminded me very much of the way I'd expect pista to react in that situation. The rest of the content seemed to run the same line of thought as myself until recently. So I think she's more likely to be my correct townread out of her and Shinobi.

I see a different prospective.
Cy seems like he is more involved then lo.
Lo has made few points and then all but disappears only to come in when it suits her needs.
Cy is a lot less reserved between the 2.

I really don't see Dunn as scum. All I see is the same point over and over again on why he is scum.
I also read the case points from Jaeread and that is pretty weak reasons.
Not touching that.

I could just go or majiffy but I have this inner person telling me to let it go for right now. (I hate that inner gut some days but it doesn't fail me typically).

I liked the points my Realeo about Shinobi.
Frankly he has been pretty meh in regards to his reads and I hate when people follow and suck up to me.

Also @ lane, seriously check lo out and tell me your thoughts there, along with alpaca.

Vote: lo

Going back here till someone can explain a town read on the spot.

[gameplay506]

What confuses me about Cy is he keep using emoticons like xD and that really throws me away.

gameplay argument is completely valid and to be honest more seems like scum flailing instead of town with questionable fos (shinobi in my case) but the xD though.

At one point, I feel like this is town trying to express himself. On the other hand, this maybe actually classified fillering.

This maybe seem stupid, but this is fucking seriously flustered.

Dude imo cy is playing this whole awkward/Newby card on purpose. All the XD's and shit. He already has 2 games on this site and 1 is a scumgame it's pretty surreal if he isn't playing like this on purpose.

[farside22]

What confuses me about Cy is he keep using emoticons like xD and that really throws me away.

gameplay argument is completely valid and to be honest more seems like scum flailing instead of town with questionable fos (shinobi in my case) but the xD though.

At one point, I feel like this is town trying to express himself. On the other hand, this maybe actually classified fillering.

This maybe seem stupid, but this is fucking seriously flustered.

I see Gameplay as tunnelled on Cy and frankly I'm not following it.
I think no matter what cy says game will continue to rant how scummy he is.
I'm pretty much in the tune it out stage.
Call me stubborn but I just see one thing after another that Game is showing as a scum read on cy and I think if cy breathed wrong Game would call it scummy.

Just my 2 cents.