Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

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Yeeeeehaw! Let's lock and load. Point me towards the scum, ready to vote.

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Town, unless scum with whoever the fuck was at L-2 early

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VOTE: Iraonvp

Notes: Bins is scum, looking to jump on a wagon and reverse a prior held townread under short constraints.

So, either iraonvp is scum or farmer is. Famer looks town.

Iron is scum.

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Bins wouldn't need to suddenly 180 a townread right as I come in unless a buddy was under extreme pressure. Common sense means a Bins buddy is wagoned. Farmer and iraonvp are the two major wagons other than me (who she is priming to vote). Farmer feels town compared to my last game with him. So that leaves itapnvp and Bins.

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hey bins:

on a scale of 1-10

1 being, DANG THIS DUDE JUST VOTED MAFIA WE SHOULD SHEEP HIM

and 10 being, HOLY FUCK THIS GUY'S VOTE WAS BLATANT SCUM. ROPE HIM

what do you rank kappy's vote on dunnstral?

yo smith how do you feel about a kappy lynch

im feelin' it

im feelin' it reaaaaaaaaal good

Ok idk what I was saying this sounds like me scum
But it's still pretty town imo
I like the sudden shift in Transcend's tone in these posts

Just quick iOS-ing again transcend wasn't as good as I had led myself believe tho
Tbh all my town points I was giving him are on fake-able posts (see above)
I get bold like that as scum
The feelin' it real good looks sort of forced now that's I'm looking at it again

I agree with you, I was thinking about this before and he was the one guy I was like "how did this guy get here?", now I looked and there are less reasons to read him as town-aligned than I thought, tone was basically the entire read.

I know people (Ranger) are going to say that I only opportunistically said this now that Titus replaced in and was slightly suspicious, but it's just coincidence.

Bins wouldn't need to suddenly 180 a townread right as I come in unless a buddy was under extreme pressure. Common sense means a Bins buddy is wagoned. Farmer and iraonvp are the two major wagons other than me (who she is priming to vote). Farmer feels town compared to my last game with him. So that leaves itapnvp and Bins.

So why aren't you voting Bins?

Do you actually think I'm scum-aligned, disregarding Bins?

Farmer and iraonvp are the two major wagons other than me (who she is priming to vote).

There is something very wrong with the idea of this, you just replaced in.

Because my conclusions make you a better vote strategically.

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Yeah, I am transcend. There's a wagon on me.

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Now, care to redo the last few posts?

How do you not know who the counter wagons are to your own slot?

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@Ranger, Haven't read. Can roll with that for today. LQ is town.

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Yeah, hold hands and circle jerk. All the major wagons are town doesn't work.

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@Smithereens, A whole lot of nothing. That expression is common. That turned into a thing.

Bins might be distancing from Dave. Could be wifom. Need to talk with Dave to get a read on him. I don't like the post (as it implies knowledge of mls) but it's weak as it could be a townread.

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Irish?

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@Dave,

Thoughts on the major wagons?

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Yup. Notice a problem with your readwall Dave?

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Yeah, that's not it.

Acceptable answers were: Townreading Dunn while voting for him, Bins being a nullread and you making zero effort to sort her vote on you

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I'm NGL I have about as much desire to stab myself with a spork as I do to vote titus.

Join me on iraonvp. *bats eyelashes*

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P sure Titus/Transcendslot is good


The way Smithereens is going at Bins makes me... I'm not sure how to respond to that. I get the feeling he always reads too much into things, or there's another motive behind it.

I 100% agree with Smithereens analysis.

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I don't understand what Smithereens is trying to say, it goes over my head.

You don't need to. You're getting rope.

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I'm down with giving Ranger a rope scarf.

No.

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I'm down with giving Ranger a rope scarf.

No.

Yes!

You agree 100% with Smithereens's analysis on Bins?

Yup.

And Umlaut's on iraonvp.

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just to reiterate: iroanavp is mafia

Just to reiterate: Your vote is not on them.

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ok at least i'm not the only one seeing this wee

???

what i've been saying

that smith is crazy

Why crazy and not scum?

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Ok, I'm derping there. My bad.

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No.

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@LQ, That is IIoA. I do agree with people who are right to me. I am at iraonvp, Dave, Bins but Bins is the weakest. I don't read very often when I sub in. I skimmed your ISO when you asked me to determine if you were town or scum.

I say that I haven't read so that people know what I do know, what I don't know, and can point me to the important parts of the game.

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Because of what I have read. I read people based on the moment I come in. Bins response to my entry was weird as fuck. Farmer looks town, so iraonvp gets a few negative points and umlaut points out the things I have gathered from pushing there.

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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GIVE YOU QUOTES OF SOMETHING I'M JUST CLAIMING ISN'T THERE


are you fucking with me now

Shit like this is the only reason I doubt Bins as scum.

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RadiantCowbells (who made this) replaces Riddleton and Titus replaces Transcend

Hey, guys!
Guess what?
For the first game in, like, forever, all three of us are town!

No, seriously!

You can doubt me if you like, but once you'll read the thread you'll see it yourself.
We're town. Dunnstral is IC-levels of conftown. Please trust me on that read. Smithereens is also IC-levels of conftown to me.
Again, some trust is required.

You should be able to read davesaz without me yelling down your throats, but I trust Bins to be town. Not to IC levels, but enough that if you tell me you scumread her, I'll ask you to table it for a future day please.

A plain farmer is scummy, but I currently think is mislynch bait.

The scum can be found in {texcat/Loopdan, Umlaut, iraonavp, LicketyQuickety}. I'd lynch any of those four in a heartbeat, so focus your attention there. I'm definitely not wrong on all of them and I actually really really REALLY feel good about being right on three of them so I'd prefer you help me rather than work against me because I am town, you two are town, seriously don't waste this opportunity with stupid paranoia and please work with me on my reads because as far as I'm concerned if you don't screw this up we've got a game-winning combo here.

Titus, what about this sickening AtE did you like exactly?

None of that appears to be AtE.

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Bins there is no way you can say i have 0 town posts.
i would support a bins wagon, that is a totally scum position to take. Im a plausible mislynch.

Nah, I doubt that.

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VOTE: Ranger

RC talk to me

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You're literally telling me to play against my wincon when I roll scum because otherwise people are going to be paranoid of me because I'm

so gud

at playing scum, right?

Like for the love of fucking Annie do you not see that there's something wrong with this picture? Why should I play against my wincon to prevent other people from playing against theirs?

I told you being renown as a scumfuck makes town ten times more difficult.

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We are not actually the same person. It's a joke.

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Ranger, TItus read.
Titus, Ranger read.
Zach, reads on both of them.

Town and given his crumbs I don't care to lynch him today.

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Listen cake boy of course I'm not gonna die because I'm also the 1 shot BP IC.

This serious?

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^Look at the setup we're in

Thanks for ruining that.

If he said yes, we lynch him.

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^Look at the setup we're in

Thanks for ruining that.

If he said yes, we lynch him.

Why would you lynch the IC? The mod-cleared IC?

LOL. I'm dumb.

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If you really thought you were about to be hammered, why not claim?

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I want to see where that goes. I'll chime in if Ranger gets to L minus 2.

Hey Ranger, who should WE lynch?

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i to ol l d u guyyyyyyyyys

Yeah, what are your reads?

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actually maybe that's a good thing for ranger would scum be that obvious? fuck

i'm half awake and i'm quad posting call me tmmr


pedit - she means you're useless so scum won't kill you

But but... I found scum!

Man, no one's ever nice to me.

You're going to need a heck of a case.

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I could do Farmer...

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Can you give me a reads list Bins?

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Cuz I want to agree with people but Ranger isn't getting my vote.

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Cuz I want to agree with people but Ranger isn't getting my vote.

RC is going to pop in here and do what has to be done.

RC will follow me.

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But we're getting ahead of our selves. I want people to speak up.

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Oh VOTE: Dave

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UNVOTE:

I want more talking.

LQ, thoughts on Ranger?

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Hey, reads please.

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RC, you wanna vote Ranger?

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I want comment about Ranger at the moment, but I have my reasons for not wanting that vote.

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Zach we in for some trubz.

Why?

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Your reads are gibberish? Translator?

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Where's your Ranger read RC?

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Rc talk to me when caught up.

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Blah blah blah get to the end please

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Prod dodge

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Like I said, I want you to talk. I am going to prod dodge til you are ready.

Prod dodge.

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VOTE: texcat

Would rather do this one.

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Hahaha. Omgus. No reasons for me being scummy, just tunnel. Ok.

What are your reads Texcat? Particularly Ranger

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If you're leaning Ranger as scummy, why aren't you sorting her with the golden opportunity the IC has given you? I mean it's pretty obviously not scum driven.

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Great Dave. Nice theory speech. Take a stand.

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@Apf, I mind time traveling for now. If I townread you, I would tell you why, but I don't.

I missed that and I got no clue what he is talking about.

@RC, can we hurry this up?

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*grumbles* *sits on keys*

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UNVOTE:

I want more talking.

LQ, thoughts on Ranger?

I see a lot of people who can be Scum here, which sucks cuz it is totally messing with my Town reads.I just don't have people in this game that I can rely on to be Town.

But for now:

VOTE: bins

This doesn't answer my question LQ.

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Davesaz is lynchbait. Nothing in this game has given me any impression that he's scum. Stop voting him.

We're lynching Smithereens, LQ, or Titus today unless something major happens in my catchup. Davesaz lynch is unacceptable.

I'll wait for your catch up.

P.s. You never learn do you.

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Lq has fallen a bit in his last posts. Smithereens is obvtown.

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Either way. Could you vote LQ?

I'll talk to you when you're ready to give me a read on Ranger.

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I'll wait.

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Why are you relieved confirmed town fails to understand something?

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Hmm...

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VOTE: RC as encouragement to move along that Ranger read.

Probably going back to texcat soon.

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@LQ, why can't you lend your vote and voice? Why are you trying to get me to comment on a read I don't want to talk about until RC gives his opinion?

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ya LQ you're taking a very laid back position on this you could just assist your handy-dandy IC! not to mention compared to your very forward stance on the ira wagon

*hugs in advance*

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Then let him talk.

Not liking LQ's vanishing act.

Definitely want my question answered.

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Ranger, I see you posting elsewhere, I hatin'

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I'll watch this with baited breath. RC will give his opinion on Ranger.

LQ will explain his question.

Then I will quit dicking around.

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Wake me up when your read is formed I need bed.

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RC, ranger has shown up.

LQ, where did you go?

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PoE? Now I am going to need reads.

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I want to wait on LQ needing ME to push Ranger as scum first. Then, you will see if it's relevant. If the slot goes to replace, I will want it's head.

VOTE: LQ

If you think on it, you may realize the answer.

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I will answer after LQ explains himself.

You might realize why the Ranger obsession if you think awhile.

I just want everyone pegged on that read.

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Is that side eye or understanding?

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I want to say it's a 75% side eye type of deal given that Ranger and LQ are basically flipped for me so you will not be able to quell my wrath if LQ flips town

Ok. Yeah, you're not going to like my announcement but I swear I am being as protown as possible.

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Titus am I doing anything wrong by you here? would you prefer if I were doing something else rn?

Go ahead. Scum hunt. Don't wait on me.

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I am doing my best to scum hunt. I feel like you are unhappy with me regardless of whatever alignment either of us are and if you're resentful of something that I'm doing in this game I'd like to know.

I cannot answer this. Don't worry about me right now. I am near certain LQ has figured out what I am likely to say anyway...

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No. I just have to be cryptic.

I would love if you subbed into mass effect mafia.

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*tries to pull Zach back from ledge*

My actions should make themselves clear. If you can't scumhunt, come back after LQ is due to post. If he misses it, I will just announce anyway and will really want to lynch him.

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Yes.

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LQ is in prod range...

So announcement time.

I am a one shot cop. I have a town result on Ranger. Scum reading by play. She can only be gf, SK, or town.

I was looking for people who suddenly townread Ranger or buddied her. RC pinged for that.

Sorry Zach.

*hides*

I think my obsession with Ranger is clear. Hope you can at least use this.

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If RC is SK or GF, I put a target on their back as they are not BP.

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I mean Ranger, gah.

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Ranger's a hard woman to read. Best to go along and cop imo. Worst that happens, I get a clear and make her scum's problem.

VOTE: texcat

Now that I can do.

I wish I didn't need to out it but I didn't want to have the IC tunnel inncorrectly and not be able to find my result.

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If

RC

Ranger is SK or GF, I put a target on their back as they are not BP.

I thought cops got town/not town. So if we're to believe Titus then Ranger could not be SK. And the SK could certainly be bullet proof.

With this many mistakes, I'm inclined not to believe Titus. Wouldn't a cop go back and look to see what her results meant? Or ask the mod?

I know exactly what my results meant. Second, doubtcasting a self corrected typo is suspicious.

Ranger can be SK with invest immunity, gf, or town. Given one NK, that's not likely.

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Ok, NK means SK possible but not likely.

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Texcat LQ wagons, my dream competition of wagons.

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Not OK with a texcat lynch rn.

Ranger is conftown to you and wants LQ. I want LQ.

Ranger is prob town, not conftown.

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I don't townread you rn titus. talk to me about that.

Yeah, why's that?

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I uh... I don't want LQ to be quite honest

I just think texcat has been a bit empty in terms of good wholesome town contributions so I thought to incentivize her with fear or death, or catch scum like getting two birds stoned at once

Agreed. Their read on me was lean town. Then, she is all suspicious After I announce my findings.

If Ranger is GF, either Texcat or RC or both are partners wanting my results to "clear" ranger.

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Which II did you forget about?

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Where is the II you reference?

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Meh that was someone else who scumread transcend and townread me. Carry on.

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I'm not opposed to voting LQ. I think LQ was fishing on if I had a guilty or innocent on Ranger anyway...

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@LQ, I was wrecking Zach's lynch choice and knew it. Of course being nice about it is getting them something. Announcing at start of day denies information. Second, I don't have to be a dick when I know I am ruining the IC's plans.

VOTE: LQ

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Texcat LQ

Let's just suggest everyone pick one unless expressly townreading them both.

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@LQ, Really, I planned since start of day to claim 1-shot cop as scum? Lmao.

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VOTE: texact

Cuz I feel like texact is all whine and LQ is spewing.

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Transcend/Smither still makes sense without LQ ftr.

Just putting that out there in case this doesn't go well today.

VOTE: RC

Why do you have to be scum in our last game together?

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Prod dodge not feeling well. Across all games.

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@RC, the counterwagon to D1 almost never gets shot.

As for any mystical crumbs, go find me yer self.

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Transcend/Smither still makes sense without LQ ftr.

Just putting that out there in case this doesn't go well today.

VOTE: RC

Why do you have to be scum in our last game together?

I am not scum.

Doubtcasting all major wagons, pushing on outed cop, pushing on transcend/smother

Your reads are shit.

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Wake the fuck up. Your reads are terribad.

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Different tac: if I'm still mod confirmed town, how is my play making you feel about me and in general?

I will always like you outside of the game...

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You're not answering my question.

Rephrase?

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RC, voting or defending Texcat is a good start.

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VC Please

Intent to vote is good enough for now RC.

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VOTE: texcat

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I want texcat roped.

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I actually really want to vote APF.
Why does no one else see this with me?

Prolly BC the tunnel on Ranger

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Texcat is still scum guys

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I wish we were seeing eye to eye rn titus but I'm having issues engaging and you're doing nothing to help it.

If you are not here, I can't. Smithereens is on my obvtown list. Texcat and LQ responses were scummy as fuck to my results.

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Yes Zach. I'm sorry. I don't believe in announcing results at start of day but getting reactions. I hope you got something from my stalling but drawing attention to Ranger. Sorry in advance if Ranger is the godmother.

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*throws hands up*

What did I do wrong? I had this setup perfectly...

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@zach, why did you make it to lylo as Ic?

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Zach, that's a lesson that's hard to master.

Each person scum kill, they kill to remove something of value from the town. Start there.

When Vedith flipped goon, ranger was conftown. Ranger died over you.
I was obvtown, died over you and Ranger. Why Ranger? She had IRL issues and could be painted as godmother. Why not you?

I think having two fucked up lylos will help. Nothing else teaches better than experience.

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RC, cool off. I found our hydra amusing. We were both better communicators while impersonating the other.

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Massclaim is optimal in this setup if

1) VTs die in D1 and D2
2) Massclaim follows PR or VT popcorn method.

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Massclaim was the right thing.

You

asking for it was the wrong thing.

When you have a reputation for being manipulative, don't be manipulative as town!

It doesn't matter if you were right.

Your behavior was what lost the game.

Disagree here.

Everyone is manipulative. You cannot ask for RC to just shut that off.


His hammer was badbut you cannot ask him to stop manipulating.

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No problem. Sorry for getting us murdered.

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@LQ Not so much.

If you force the PR or VT mass claim, scum don't know which letters to claim. Then, there's the claiming of specific PRs which only happens after the PR/VT part. Eventually, the bodies hit the floor and scum narrative has to match that. No matter what kill scum make, they are wore off.

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@Davesaz, You can be manipulative without lying. Manipulation is just getting people to do what you want. I manipulate by telling all the options and selling mine.