Open 654 | Surrealism - Game over

Creature · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:43 am

Votecount 1.8

[2] BTD6_Maker - Dunnstral, MeowMix
[1] Mimikyu - Zachstralkita
[0] Something_Smart
[1] MeowMix - Gamma Emerald
[0] Aubrey
[3] Gamma Emerald - BlackStar, Ümläüt, BTD6_Maker
[2] Skold - Aristophanes, Aubrey
[0] BlackStar
[0] Zachstralkita
[1] Dunnstral - The_Jester
[1] The_Jester - Skold
[1] Ümläüt - Mimikyu
[0] Aristophanes

[0] Nolynch

Not voting: Something_Smart

There are 13 players alive, 7 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-09-25 14:45:00)

BlackStar · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:45 am

UNVOTE:

Aubrey · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:45 am

@Gamma: thanks. That was my guess but I wanted to make sure

@Dunn: where is the scum benefit for scum Zach to defend town Gamma then?

Dunnstral · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:08 am

In post 477, Aubrey wrote:@Dunn: where is the scum benefit for scum Zach to defend town Gamma then?

To look town?

To make Gamma look bad if Zach ever flips scum?

Aubrey · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:28 am

In post 478, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 477, Aubrey wrote:@Dunn: where is the scum benefit for scum Zach to defend town Gamma then?
To look town?

To make Gamma look bad if Zach ever flips scum?

I won't question the possibility, but I question the likelihood. I don't see scum pushing as hard as Zach did in his defensive post unless they are aligned. I'd imagin scum either kinda shrugging it off and putting out a flimsy defense for town, if not just keep the target in a null.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:12 pm

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 426, Aubrey wrote:Zach, why are you refusing to give your reads out of curiosity? I have a townie read from you based on your defense of gamma. I doubt the two of you are scum aligned. If you two were scum, I wouldn't understand Gamma's defense of Skold earlier. From that point of view I would assume your intentions Regarding that defense was town driven vs. scum driven. long story short, I think you have a strong town possibility so I'm interested in your reads. Refusing to give reads doesn't make a lot of sense.
This? I don't currently scumread Gamma and I don't currently townread Zach and I think it's dumb and/or wrong but I don't think you're scummy

Zach makes his reads clear as town, too, even if he doesn't come out and say it he'll be white knighting people

That's why it's rather odd that he jumped onto BTD6 so fast (though I do think BTD6 is scum, too, so it could be a bus move)

Nothing you said here makes sense at all

i WK a lot but stopping shitty lynches isnt even wking (gamma)

you voted aristophanes before -- that lynch is even more full of shit but if that wagon popped up again i 'd be " WKing " by informing everyone how awful it is

btd6 has had some of the worst posts i have ever seen in my life but its " bussing " only when i acknowledge this publicly, as opposed to... finding scum

most

of

your

reads

blow

this

is

a

fact

I've been minimally engaging with you all game because I lack the temperament to take seriously the bullshit you consistently spew. I am saving everyone about 40 pages of shit

not to mention you quoted and went to this post after i had addressed it for what? to make me appear how you present me?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:32 pm

In post 9, Dunnstral wrote:Where's Zach

In post 22, Dunnstral wrote:Don't forget about me pal

VOTE: Zachstralkita

Don't let this guy get away with it let me tell you

In post 31, Dunnstral wrote:like even if zach's scum he can't white knight (he can try) here because there's 2 factions

In post 125, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Zachstralkita

I've seen this guy as town quite a bit and let me tell you... he's not town this game

40% chance of being right

In post 127, Dunnstral wrote:zAchstrAlkitA

In post 242, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 170, Aubrey wrote:
In post 125, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Zachstralkita

I've seen this guy as town quite a bit and let me tell you... he's not town this game

40% chance of being right
I'd like to hear a more in depth analysis on this from you.

In post 128, Skold wrote:Pretty damn confirmed. Found a scumteam guys.
Lets hear it then.

Where is Javajoe26 and BTD6_Maker? One could almost forget they are part of this game.

In depth analysis isn't exactly my forte

I think he's playing like he does as scum in this game

In post 187, Zachstralkita wrote:
What was addressed was that BlackStar strawmanned and deflected what Umlaut conveyed better in #176 than apparently I have in all my posts. I'm quite sure we all know how " strong " his scumread is. No one is feigning ignorance of anything at this point.
Keep using random buzzwords, pal

In post 243, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 207, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay, enough. This has gone on for FAR too long. I don't really find BlackStar's actions that suspicious, but I definitely find Zachstralkita to be. He keeps trying to derail the discussion onto BlackStar. I don't see any reason town would try to do this.
VOTE: Zach

This is a weird and dramatic post

In post 213, Zachstralkita wrote:That's not how anything works, and you don't decide when something starts or stops.
VOTE: Zachstralkita

Just to reiterate: I think Zach is a member of an anti-town faction that opposes the town

In post 315, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 293, Gamma Emerald wrote:You know, Zach has really changed his tune, or at least it feels like it.
UNVOTE:
That's how he gets you

In post 296, MeowMix wrote:also FOS Dunn's 242 for that little self-meta thing at the end I was not a particularly big fan of that
Do you disagree with what it actually said?

In post 317, Dunnstral wrote:btw I think blackstar, aubrey, javajoe are all fine members of town

Anyways yeah don't let Zach pull one over on you guys

In post 431, Dunnstral wrote:I think Zach might be town

Let's get

VOTE: Aristophanes

This guy looks bad for real

In post 468, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 457, Zachstralkita wrote:
BTD6_maker wrote:
In post 441, MeowMix wrote:wow holy shit

UNVOTE: Gammerald
VOTE: BTD6_maker
Can you please justify this? The fact that I am busy in Real Life means that I cannot put as much time into this game as I would like to. Soon I will be less busy and will be able to invest more into this.

I would prefer it if everyone stopped scumreading me purely because of my low activity. Real life is more important to me than MS.net life.
There are so much things that are scummy
besides
your low activity.

Like, your posts.

I'm still trying to process this. What the fuck is going on.
ping

In post 469, Dunnstral wrote:Something_Scummy is whiteknighting harder than Zach usually does while trying to be on the down-low about it

In post 472, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 426, Aubrey wrote:Zach, why are you refusing to give your reads out of curiosity? I have a townie read from you based on your defense of gamma. I doubt the two of you are scum aligned. If you two were scum, I wouldn't understand Gamma's defense of Skold earlier. From that point of view I would assume your intentions Regarding that defense was town driven vs. scum driven. long story short, I think you have a strong town possibility so I'm interested in your reads. Refusing to give reads doesn't make a lot of sense.
This? I don't currently scumread Gamma and I don't currently townread Zach and I think it's dumb and/or wrong but I don't think you're scummy

Zach makes his reads clear as town, too, even if he doesn't come out and say it he'll be white knighting people

That's why it's rather odd that he jumped onto BTD6 so fast (though I do think BTD6 is scum, too, so it could be a bus move)

In post 474, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 473, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Dunn: this is multiball.
In that case it doesn't matter and they can both be scummy/scum together

I have good reasons to suspect both actually

Zach as Town would probably be more confrontational with me pushing him all game if that makes sense

Btd6 really feeling as scum too

In post 478, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 477, Aubrey wrote:@Dunn: where is the scum benefit for scum Zach to defend town Gamma then?
To look town?

To make Gamma look bad if Zach ever flips scum?

you have 24 posts im directly mentioned or referred to in 15 of them

You basically tunnel me every game hoping to get lucky no matter what regardless of what you say

If you're town you've done jack shit. You assume I'm scum until I flip or you get tired of my name showing up in everything you post, which you never do. Every single action I do is placed with a scum motivation from you.

If you're scum no one's going to lynch you because only you get a free pass for posting shit consistently.

And no one is going to do anything about it.

I'm not really going to read your posts unless I have a real reason to

Aristophanes · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:37 pm

Why do people quote wall?
Wtf is the point of it!?

Either spoiler it or link the posts. The above clutter the thread and makes your point far less compelling because people like me singly won't read them.

Smart, where have I seemed fake?

Aubrey · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:42 pm

You've also been after Zach since day one. When asked about it all you said was "I don't do analytical posts," and spewed that meta reasoning (that we all know I love so much) without even backing it up with anything. You haven't really provided much reasoning for anything you've said so far.

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pre-edit: Seems Zach feels the same way.

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I want more out of you Dunn. I don't have you placed as super strong scum, but your moving in that direction with they way you've been playing so far. I'm also willing to vote you for your actions so far.
UNVOTE: Skold
VOTE: Dunnstral

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Hello Aristo, caught up yet? If you haven't, then I don't know why you keep posting. A lot of us are waiting to hear an in depth post from you regarding what all has happened and your thoughts behind them.

Aubrey · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:44 pm

@zach: He does have a point in that it does create unnecessary clutter though. Maybe using the post # feature would be better when you mass quote like that.

Aristophanes · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:45 pm

In post 483, Aubrey wrote:Hello Aristo, caught up yet? If you haven't, then I don't know why you keep posting. A lot of us are waiting to hear an in depth post from you regarding what all has happened and your thoughts behind them.

Tomorrow after work I will be. Sorry I'm holding everyone up!

Zachstralkita · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:47 pm

Aubrey wrote:@zach: He does have a point in that it does create unnecessary clutter though. Maybe using the post # feature would be better when you mass quote like that.

oh yeah, and said posts aren't clutter at all.

by any chance if

@mod wouldn't be so troubled

to spoiler the quotes in question I would greatly appreciate it

Otherwise, you don't have to expend precious energy to read any of the quotes at all to grasp the point that I'm trying to get across.

Aubrey · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:51 pm

AND ANOTHER THING DUNN!

in post 431 you mention that you think Zach maybe town. Now your back to thinking them scum. Where and why did that all of a sudden change?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:54 pm

Yeah, I'm really starting to distrust Dunn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

BlackStar · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:59 pm

In post 488, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, I'm really starting to distrust Dunn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

I don't trust you. You're just sheeping every wagon that forms.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 489, BlackStar wrote:
In post 488, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, I'm really starting to distrust Dunn.
VOTE: Dunnstral
I don't trust you. You're just sheeping every wagon that forms.

Why'd you unvote, then?

BlackStar · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:18 pm

I don't trust the people on your wagon either

MeowMix · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 488, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, I'm really starting to distrust Dunn.
VOTE: Dunnstral

why?

MeowMix · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:20 pm

In post 491, BlackStar wrote:I don't trust the people on your wagon either

[3] Gamma Emerald -

BlackStar

, Ümläüt, BTD6_Maker

.....................................................................

Zachstralkita · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:23 pm

In post 493, MeowMix wrote:
In post 491, BlackStar wrote:I don't trust the people on your wagon either

[3] Gamma Emerald -
BlackStar
, Ümläüt, BTD6_Maker

.....................................................................

rofl

MeowMix · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:26 pm

oh wait he unvoted. but still

@blackstar can you explain more indepth your distrust for users: umlaut, btd?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 492, MeowMix wrote:
In post 488, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah, I'm really starting to distrust Dunn.
VOTE: Dunnstral
why?

Because he's only really thinking in one direction. As I said before, you need to play in multiple directions, and I'll add that it's even more important in multiball.

BlackStar · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 495, MeowMix wrote:oh wait he unvoted. but still

@blackstar can you explain more indepth your distrust for users: umlaut, btd?

People already explained why BTD is scummy. I'm more null on Umlaut

BlackStar · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:31 pm

VOTE: BTD

MeowMix · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:47 pm

do you find gamma or btd more scummy