[Mini 1835] - Everything Is A Lie Mafia 4 (Abandoned)

[Flames682]

You're contradicting yourself, xyzzy. I took a look in your ISO and literally that was your first scumhunt post. The rest have been speculation

In fact, both Ircher is doing the same.

[shos]

holy shit this exploded overnight

I'll read up soon

[shos]

I'm a real IC, but there's probably some other layer to my role that no one knows about, and speculating about that is probably pointless.

Question--are you the kind of IC that automatically gets confirmed at the beginning of the game, or did you ask the mod to announce you at that time?

-Lace

the former.

I think you're full of shit. Hidden IC is exponentially more powerful than instant NK bait.

Also doc and watch bait. This is not so easy/bad/w/e.

Though seriously, does this game have the possibility for secret win cons?

these games are extremely unpredictable. Anything is possible.

I kinda wish Ranger was in this game. She's like a tactical nuke of scum hunting.

I guess we're going to have to make do with... Uh...

...

...

Shit. We're doomed.

I don't like you. You have like 4 jokes so far and the game barely strted, and it sounds forced as hell

[shos]

Whenever I make a proposal in this game, I need to do it using democracy and fair voting. I proposed the usage of my ability, so it must be voted by people.

For the second voter, as I said I know that information. I need a majority requesting for the data to expose them.

I don't understand what harm can be caused by that? Even if scum has control over the vote, we can leash it, right?

[shos]

Someone effectively has THREE votes as long as The Counsel lives.

~Leather

No, from what I know they will be able to use the public vote like us.

as I said the second vote is in the hands of someone else.

There is nothing stopping you from

adding that person to your counsel

, efficient making you a triple voter, especially considering you know their identity.

Where potential exists, all risks must be analyzed.

~Leather

what do you mean by this?

[House]

Someone effectively has THREE votes as long as The Counsel lives.

~Leather

No, from what I know they will be able to use the public vote like us.

as I said the second vote is in the hands of someone else.

There is nothing stopping you from

adding that person to your counsel

, efficient making you a triple voter, especially considering you know their identity.

Where potential exists, all risks must be analyzed.

~Leather

what do you mean by this?

Keep reading. Already answered.

[Leather and Lace]

Someone effectively has THREE votes as long as The Counsel lives.

~Leather

No, from what I know they will be able to use the public vote like us.

as I said the second vote is in the hands of someone else.

There is nothing stopping you from

adding that person to your counsel

, efficient making you a triple voter, especially considering you know their identity.

Where potential exists, all risks must be analyzed.

~Leather

what do you mean by this?

Keep reading. Already answered.

Sigh...

Unsubscribing from main.

[xyzzy]

You're contradicting yourself, xyzzy. I took a look in your ISO and literally that was your first scumhunt post. The rest have been speculation

In fact, both Ircher is doing the same.

I've been responding to the setup speculation by others (mostly L&L); I'm making a deliberate effort to focus on something more productive now rather then being pulled down into useless conjecture. I'm not denying that I've been part of the speculation, but I'm not the one responsible for starting it.

[xyzzy]

You're contradicting yourself, xyzzy. I took a look in your ISO and literally that was your first scumhunt post. The rest have been speculation

In fact, both Ircher is doing the same.

I've been responding to the setup speculation by others (mostly L&L); I'm making a deliberate effort to focus on something more productive now rather then being pulled down into useless conjecture. I'm not denying that I've been part of the speculation, but I'm not the one responsible for starting it.

[SirCakez]

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?

I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.

I am interested
They said the dead/wguerts controlled the account didn't they?

They did not.

That was about previous games. Idc about previous games. I'm playing this one.

Lemme try to find the post

The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out

VOTE: the counsel

you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuck

~Lina

The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.
That's why I just unvoted.

Who's scum cakez?

The Counsel. Shoot them.

Let's wait on this a bit.

Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL

Is xyz in regards to ic or play?
Why bnl?

Adds ircher to scum list.

Both
His push on me over semantics feels scummy

L&L is focusing way too hard on speculating about details to the game that we can't possibly fully understand at this point, and at this point I feel like it's a deliberate effort to make everyone else not focus on scum hunting (which of relatively easy with the one week deadlines).

VOTE: Leather and Lace

side note: I can't help but read "BNL" as "Barenaked Ladies"

VOTE: Leather

Also these votes are shit

[SirCakez]

Vote for the towniest players -> they get lynched -> they get into the dead thread (make livings join Counsel) -> they control the Counsel -> they get Counsel's voting power

We can add "living" players to the counsel. You shouldn't use the vote tag or hint the moderator in any manner that you want to vote your desired town counselors for real. The votes you submit to counsel might be in the form of read lists.

The dead counselors may continue the game using this slot.

This post Leather

[shos]

hey farside is in the game!!! <3 <3 <3

I've read up to page 12, this is all a pile of bullshit. nothing is worth reading.

counsel should tell us who they are and who has the other vote

[Ircher]

Flame strikes me the most as scum rn.

Keather is more likely stubborn town (who drives people up a 25-mile long wall...).

[shos]

VOTE: The Counsel
I think the counsel is managed by scum. anything that has been said here is either wifom, bullshit, or empty promises. at best, this can keep us wifoming instead of actually scumhunting and playing the game. already it poofed 15 pages of nothingness.

I want this gone.

[shos]

Also I think L&L is possibly scumtheatering with them.

[Ircher]

Tbf though, the Counsel is a proxy acct. While I won't deny the WIFOM associated w/ the accts posts, I also consider the fact that by its nature, it is gonna be heavy in WIFOM. If a player wanted to say something that actually drives the game forward, they wouldn't use the proxy; in essence, the proxy only replies for one of 3 reasons: 1) Vote 2) Defend themselves/ward off suspicion and 3) Give info.

It's a bit suspicious the Counsel hasn't revealed their info yet; it may be a stalling attempt, but I'd give them some more time first.

[Ircher]

Also I think L&L is possibly scumtheatering with them.

House is pretty much always obnoxiously stubborn.

[shos]

They have 128 posts dude. 128.

[Leather and Lace]

Vote for the towniest players -> they get lynched -> they get into the dead thread (make livings join Counsel) -> they control the Counsel -> they get Counsel's voting power

We can add "living" players to the counsel. You shouldn't use the vote tag or hint the moderator in any manner that you want to vote your desired town counselors for real. The votes you submit to counsel might be in the form of read lists.

The dead counselors may continue the game using this slot.

This post Leather

Wrong.

That post does not say they are controlled by the moderator. That post is asking players not to vote them.

Huge difference.

The Counsel already admitted they were a proxy account being used to keep from outing their main when giving info.

Hidden source + multiple private votes = scum mechanics.

[Leather and Lace]

Also I think L&L is possibly scumtheatering with them.

Totally.

You should lynch my buddy and then come gunning for me toMorrow.

[Ircher]

Good point. Thats absurdly a lot.

[Leather and Lace]

Flame strikes me the most as scum rn.

Keather is more likely stubborn town (who drives people up a 25-mile long wall...).

Yet you're voting me, lol.

[Leather and Lace]

They have 128 posts dude. 128.

That's because I'm DOING SHIT!

[Ircher]

Flame strikes me the most as scum rn.

Keather is more likely stubborn town (who drives people up a 25-mile long wall...).

Yet you're voting me, lol.

I see no reason to change my vote rn considering how little has been done.

[Leather and Lace]

counsel should tell us who they are and who has the other vote

That's what I've been doing, but you want to receive the benefits of my efforts while also casting shade for the work it took to get here?

Screw that dude.