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According to my role yesBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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wgeurts plsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Wgeurts pretty explicitly states the roles can be (and probably are) lyingBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Also before the game starts
I'm double Hated apparentlyBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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By apparently, I meant that my role says I am, but I'm not sure if I actually am or not.In post 47, BNL wrote:"Apparently" means that he believes that's he's double hated.
Yes I agree that its a useful fact for him to say that his role PM says he's double hated, and I don't find that scummy. I feel that if his thought processes were real then he should say something like "My role PM says I'm double hated" instead.
This should have been obvious, others noted it too.
VOTE: xyzzy
This is confscumBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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wait I want to test something
VOTE: wgeurtsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I don't think it's a good reason not to lynch himIn post 76, BNL wrote:
What do you think of 44?In post 70, SirCakez wrote:
By apparently, I meant that my role says I am, but I'm not sure if I actually am or not.In post 47, BNL wrote:"Apparently" means that he believes that's he's double hated.
Yes I agree that its a useful fact for him to say that his role PM says he's double hated, and I don't find that scummy. I feel that if his thought processes were real then he should say something like "My role PM says I'm double hated" instead.
This should have been obvious, others noted it too.
VOTE: xyzzy
This is confscum
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Considering how ridiculously bastard this game is, I don't really see an issue with Vedith not pushing Yume over the miller claims
You have to remember that wgeurts is trying to fuck with us
P-edit: I think it's more like 95% chance he's scum. ICs have never been legit in Everything is a Lie games.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I mean that's possible but the IC being real doesn't fit the game theme at all.In post 82, Rylai and Lina wrote:
Your 95% chance has been heard and thrown at the nearest garbage can. its a new Everything is a Lie game. maybe he is fucking with you to think that is a lie like this games meta.In post 81, SirCakez wrote:Considering how ridiculously bastard this game is, I don't really see an issue with Vedith not pushing Yume over the miller claims
You have to remember that wgeurts is trying to fuck with us
P-edit: I think it's more like 95% chance he's scum. ICs have never been legit in Everything is a Lie games.
It was still a scum lynch, no?In post 83, BNL wrote:
Um, what?In post 78, SirCakez wrote:
I don't think it's a good reason not to lynch himIn post 76, BNL wrote:
What do you think of 44?In post 70, SirCakez wrote:
By apparently, I meant that my role says I am, but I'm not sure if I actually am or not.In post 47, BNL wrote:"Apparently" means that he believes that's he's double hated.
Yes I agree that its a useful fact for him to say that his role PM says he's double hated, and I don't find that scummy. I feel that if his thought processes were real then he should say something like "My role PM says I'm double hated" instead.
This should have been obvious, others noted it too.
VOTE: xyzzy
This is confscum
They'll have to go at some point
Did you even read my post? In both previous games lynching the IC would lead to a 3P win.
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no shitIn post 115, Flames682 wrote:I have a feeling that the counsel is misleading us
lynching wgeurts is probably either part of someone's win condition (it was in Homestuck Mafia, which was also bastard), or buffs/nerfs someone's role.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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OhIn post 120, BNL wrote:
First was a jester, second was a death miller (real) IC which was also the lyncher's target. I have no idea what you define as scum.In post 85, SirCakez wrote:
I mean that's possible but the IC being real doesn't fit the game theme at all.In post 82, Rylai and Lina wrote:
Your 95% chance has been heard and thrown at the nearest garbage can. its a new Everything is a Lie game. maybe he is fucking with you to think that is a lie like this games meta.In post 81, SirCakez wrote:Considering how ridiculously bastard this game is, I don't really see an issue with Vedith not pushing Yume over the miller claims
You have to remember that wgeurts is trying to fuck with us
P-edit: I think it's more like 95% chance he's scum. ICs have never been legit in Everything is a Lie games.
It was still a scum lynch, no?In post 83, BNL wrote:
Um, what?In post 78, SirCakez wrote:
I don't think it's a good reason not to lynch himIn post 76, BNL wrote:
What do you think of 44?In post 70, SirCakez wrote:
By apparently, I meant that my role says I am, but I'm not sure if I actually am or not.In post 47, BNL wrote:"Apparently" means that he believes that's he's double hated.
Yes I agree that its a useful fact for him to say that his role PM says he's double hated, and I don't find that scummy. I feel that if his thought processes were real then he should say something like "My role PM says I'm double hated" instead.
This should have been obvious, others noted it too.
VOTE: xyzzy
This is confscum
They'll have to go at some point
Did you even read my post? In both previous games lynching the IC would lead to a 3P win.
Who cares if a 3P wins as long as scum gets lynched
I didn't read the games thoroughly so I saw the death miller flip and thought they were actually scum....
oops
Yeah just dayvig/vig xyzzy. He's obviously scum, he's not even trying.In post 163, Leather and Lace wrote:
Because shooting jesters and such don't allow them to fulfill their win con, no?In post 161, Flames682 wrote:Why does the IC need to be dayvigged and not just lynched?
~Leather
Like this is just useless.In post 178, xyzzy wrote:shooting me would be bad and unproductive. I am better for the town alive.
The Counsel might just be wgeurtsIn post 219, Leather and Lace wrote:
I'll play your silly game... for now.In post 217, The Counsel wrote:Whenever I make a proposal in this game, I need to do it using democracy and fair voting. I proposed the usage of my ability, so it must be voted by people.
For the second voter, as I said I know that information. I need a majority requesting for the data to expose them.
Everyone: We need to democratically demand the name of The Counsel's second vote because it behooves us to know who has how many votes.
Accordingly, we also need to demand to know WHO THE COUNSEL IS A PROXY FOR, for the same reason.
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That make you happier, you neutral machination from hell?
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But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out
VOTE: the counselBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I mean I was in Bloodborne with House so I get where he's coming from with the Counsel paranoia
It is sheeping to an extent since I think they're townBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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UNVOTE:
Can dead people post through the Counsel?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.In post 277, Rylai and Lina wrote:
you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuckIn post 271, SirCakez wrote:The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out
VOTE: the counsel
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That's why I just unvoted.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
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I am interestedIn post 296, Leather and Lace wrote:
Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?In post 294, SirCakez wrote:Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL
I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.
They said the dead/wguerts controlled the account didn't they?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Lemme try to find the postIn post 318, Leather and Lace wrote:
They did not.In post 317, SirCakez wrote:
I am interestedIn post 296, Leather and Lace wrote:
Are you saying you have no interest in The Counsel outing who privately controls their second vote?In post 294, SirCakez wrote:Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL
I need that intent stated explicitly in order to believe it.
They said the dead/wguerts controlled the account didn't they?
That was about previous games. Idc about previous games. I'm playing this one.
BothIn post 324, farside22 wrote:
Let's wait on this a bit.In post 292, Leather and Lace wrote:
The Counsel. Shoot them.In post 289, farside22 wrote:
Who's scum cakez?In post 281, SirCakez wrote:
The vote was for pressure so they'd out the info.In post 277, Rylai and Lina wrote:
you semi sheeped leather pov in the matter but you want the slot lynched before outing the info they promised. This is hypocritical as fuckIn post 271, SirCakez wrote:The Counsel might just be wgeurts
But yeah if someone is controlling them they need to out
VOTE: the counsel
~Lina
That's why I just unvoted.
Is xyz in regards to ic or play?In post 294, SirCakez wrote:Clarification = info on who's behind the slot
Currently my scum reads are xyzzy and BNL
Why bnl?
Adds ircher to scum list.
His push on me over semantics feels scummyIn post 346, xyzzy wrote:L&L is focusing way too hard on speculating about details to the game that we can't possibly fully understand at this point, and at this point I feel like it's a deliberate effort to make everyone else not focus on scum hunting (which of relatively easy with the one week deadlines).
VOTE: Leather and Lace
side note: I can't help but read "BNL" as "Barenaked Ladies"Also these votes are shit
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This post LeatherIn post 275, The Counsel wrote:
We can add "living" players to the counsel. You shouldn't use the vote tag or hint the moderator in any manner that you want to vote your desired town counselors for real. The votes you submit to counsel might be in the form of read lists.In post 266, BNL wrote:Vote for the towniest players -> they get lynched -> they get into the dead thread (make livings join Counsel) -> they control the Counsel -> they get Counsel's voting power
The dead counselors may continue the game using this slot.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I can't tell if this is Ircher being Ircher or being scum
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Your posts here feel unnatural
The problem is your posts always feel unnatural
My gut leans scum unnatural thoughBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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My gut says yes, I thought this was clearIn post 389, Ircher wrote:Do they feel less natural than usual? That was my question.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Yeah I got mixed up about the mod controlling the account Leather
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VOTE: bulltnlynchproofBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Look at the OPIn post 430, Vedith wrote:So was the council in the start of the game or no?
Shos is a good vote too but I prefer BNL
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OKIn post 471, Leather and Lace wrote:
This does nothing to improve my read on you.In post 470, SirCakez wrote:Shos is a good vote too but I prefer BNLBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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this is fake as hellIn post 494, shos wrote:ok so...I've fully read up.
it appears I...need to "explain myself".
well.
considering there is nothing to explain (I deny controlling the counsel, so...is there anything?), and the deadline is short, I guess I'll go ahead and claim.
I'm a tracker. I have another passive ability and another 1-shot ability which I don't want to disclose, as it wouldn't help town in shit.
There is also 1-word flavor and a quote from some french guy.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The claimBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I mean I don't have any hard evidence that it's fake but it just sounds fakeBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The abilitiesIn post 506, Leather and Lace wrote:
Which part? The abilities or last sentence? Or both?In post 505, SirCakez wrote:I mean I don't have any hard evidence that it's fake but it just sounds fake
The quote everyone has, I know
I have a REALLY bizarre role and "tracker with a few 1-shots" doesn't compare at all.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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What he did claim sounds fakeIn post 520, Leather and Lace wrote:
You are aware he's not full-claiming, yes?In post 519, SirCakez wrote:
The abilitiesIn post 506, Leather and Lace wrote:
Which part? The abilities or last sentence? Or both?In post 505, SirCakez wrote:I mean I don't have any hard evidence that it's fake but it just sounds fake
The quote everyone has, I know
I have a REALLY bizarre role and "tracker with a few 1-shots" doesn't compare at all.
That you're scumIn post 522, BNL wrote:Over the night I've thought about it, and realised that Shos is the best lynch for today.
If he's scum, good. Otherwise, the Counsel lied to us, so we lynch them tomorrow. So {Shos, The Counsel} should be our lynchpool for today, and I'm leaning towards the former. The only way this can fail is if the Mod lied to the Counsel.
@Everyone not voting shos/The Counsel:What do you disagree about this?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This sucksIn post 555, shos wrote:in other words, the only kind of discussion in this game was about the counsel. we've seen shit like that before, we all agree it's wifom. the dwelling on that (and the 6-wagon on me because of it) is stupid and probably encouraged by scum. The game has over 500 posts and there are players in the game you barely know exist. Vedith, flames, Kuroi, Yume.. it's all drowned in L&L spam.
Basically "go look at other people, don't push me!!!"Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I'm not going to quote half the game for youIn post 568, shos wrote: @SC: where? lolBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Could be a vote follower
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Trying to get a quick claim out the door so people don't push them for not claimingIn post 588, BNL wrote:
What motivation do scum have to fakeclaim, instead of claiming most of their role and snipping out the scummy parts of their role?In post 543, SirCakez wrote:
What he did claim sounds fakeIn post 520, Leather and Lace wrote:
You are aware he's not full-claiming, yes?In post 519, SirCakez wrote:
The abilitiesIn post 506, Leather and Lace wrote:
Which part? The abilities or last sentence? Or both?In post 505, SirCakez wrote:I mean I don't have any hard evidence that it's fake but it just sounds fake
The quote everyone has, I know
I have a REALLY bizarre role and "tracker with a few 1-shots" doesn't compare at all.
I don't want to lynch the Counsel, I want to lynch you.
So anything that I say is wrong because you think I'm scum? Did you bother reading the rest of the post at all?
That you're scumIn post 522, BNL wrote:Over the night I've thought about it, and realised that Shos is the best lynch for today.
If he's scum, good. Otherwise, the Counsel lied to us, so we lynch them tomorrow. So {Shos, The Counsel} should be our lynchpool for today, and I'm leaning towards the former. The only way this can fail is if the Mod lied to the Counsel.
@Everyone not voting shos/The Counsel:What do you disagree about this?
Not sure what the rest of the post has to do with it.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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^In post 613, Flames682 wrote:My scumread on shos isn't based on The Counsel's assertion that shos is the extra voter.
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I remember playing with BNL a while ago and he was lynchbait-y, yeah.In post 629, BNL wrote:
But this was my RVS vote, so...?In post 600, Ircher wrote:
This is just super nitpickey, to the point of unnecessarily so.In post 45, BNL wrote:In post 25, SirCakez wrote:Wgeurts pretty explicitly states the roles can be (and probably are) lyingSo you think that the roles are lies, but you don't doubt the double Hated part of your role?
VOTE: SirCakezRVS means random.
How is a vote with reasons given random?In post 639, Leather and Lace wrote:Not really wanting to lynch BNL because he just strikes me as a kneejerk scumread, which usually winds up flipping town.
I could really go for some shos blood, though.
The above post reallly sucks though.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Because I was just reminded of it
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My BNL read is shaky now
I would prefer lynching Shos or Xyzzy.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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VOTE: shos
let's goBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Not really, farside didn't do anything
Did MM do something I missed?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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yesIn post 716, Rylai and Lina wrote:
siriously?In post 715, SirCakez wrote:Did MM do something I missed?
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good idea <.<
Ok so people are suspicious because he said that farside's dayvig claim on page 3 was fake? That seems like a pretty bad reason to scumread him imoBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Even if you're town this is bad play. Just assuming whoever votes you is scum is awful.
I was mildly skimming....In post 738, BNL wrote:
So you admit you weren't reading the game?In post 723, SirCakez wrote:
yesIn post 716, Rylai and Lina wrote:
siriously?In post 715, SirCakez wrote:Did MM do something I missed?
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VOTE: xyzzy
this is acceptableBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Am I the only one who thinks farside's dayvig claim was an obvious joke?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I did not see that post mal
With that in mind now yeah MM looks a lot worseBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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The mod is dead and votes won't work on him anymore I thinkBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Oh I guess they do still work on him
I assume xyzzy's double vote is only appearances and doesn't actually count as two votes, which is how BNL isn't hammeredBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Well obv you would say thatIn post 836, The MM wrote:
I think so.In post 805, SirCakez wrote:Am I the only one who thinks farside's dayvig claim was an obvious joke?
Because I think farside was relying on scare tactics as a gambit.
I don't even think this anymore....In post 837, shos wrote:
ThisIn post 805, SirCakez wrote:Am I the only one who thinks farside's dayvig claim was an obvious joke?
Malpa seems to try and drive a lynch based onthisand it is very wierd imo because L&L have definitely had more based reads [like a scumread on me]...
This sortasupports my scumread on them, since they left my wafon as soon as it became an unviable myslinch
I see BNL hammered? That's ok I guess. Would have preferred xyzzy or Ircher.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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wat?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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this is crappy, xyzzy is like 90% scumIn post 941, KuroiXHF wrote:Yeah. Xyzzy isn't scum and I'm suspicious of those that jumped on him/her/it/don't care to check.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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He's scummy AF?Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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He hasn't done anything and he's IC
That's what's so scummyBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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100% sincereBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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@FA I'm voting shos and scumreading Ircher, you're not completely ignored ;-;
BNL might be town at this point but he's playing so antitown idgafBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I feel like wgeurts is trolling about the modkill reasoning, given the theme of the game
Vote to reveal the info plsBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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oh rightIn post 1053, wgeurts wrote:In post 1049, SirCakez wrote:I feel like wgeurts is trolling about the modkill reasoning, given the theme of the game
Vote to reveal the info plsThe orange text is guaranteed truth to avoid possible unintended mistakes, that could affect the game's flow. What was said is true.
VOTE: ircherBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ircher isn't even trying anymoreBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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wtf did you guys do ughBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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