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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:38 pm

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In post 1810, Kagami wrote:If Dayvig-flavor godfather is strange to you, why were so gung-ho on scum-wisdom? Does 1381 still represent the depth of your (former?) wisdom scumread?
You brought up the point that Dayvig-flavor IC was strange; my counterpoint was that Davig-flavor godfather wasn't any less strange.
I didn't put any a large amount of thought into rationalizing Wisdom being scum with stab flavor; Wisdom's flavor fitting his public action wasn't particularly reassuring to me.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:39 pm

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In post 1811, Kagami wrote:Exploding Rune
Ah.
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:46 pm

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In post 1812, farside22 wrote:Are you scum reading him?
I ask because all I saw in catch up was accusing him of tunneling, which is hypocrisy at best and wrong at worst.
My frustration with him tunneling me here is less of a one game thing and more of an extended game to game to game sort of thing. I am scumreading him, will elaborate on that when I have a little time in the future.
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:50 pm

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In post 1815, Kagami wrote:MoI did not allow for a reasonable chance that the game ends N1, which is highly possible if we take the current situation at face value.
I'm more skeptical than you of this at this point.
In post 1815, Kagami wrote:There is no suitable flavor on the scumteam for the stabbing, so for wisdom to be scum, MoI deliberately designed the role to deceive the Town and went to the trouble of pushing that through bulb's death scene.
I'm not sure how MoI would approach this, exactly. I think there are a couple of routes he could have taken; I don't think he would place significant information within flavor intentionally and I'm sure that he's not naive enough to fall into a "all good guys are town and all bad guys are scum" type of trap.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:53 pm

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In post 1824, Kagami wrote:I want to entertain wisdom-SK, but I don't think it makes sense for there to be a killing penalty then, and I don't think MoI would have added the last bit to 730 if there weren't one.
To 736?
I'm not really sure what you're saying here.
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:54 pm

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Kagami, I think you might be getting way too lost in flavor/setup speculation.
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:16 pm

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there are so many walls and I'm glazing over
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:55 pm

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In post 1855, Nachomamma8 wrote:Kagami, I think you might be getting way too lost in flavor/setup speculation.
That's nice. Do you have a summary of your thoughts that would be suitable for Mr. Cakes glazy eyes?
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:04 pm

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In post 1772, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1537, kraska77 wrote:Either way I still prefer lynching cakes first. Idk why the stuff I said on him got dismissed as bs earlier...cakes has been in almost all my recent games, nothing he put out here looks like a product of a scum hunting mindset. There is not a single novel/personal explanation he provided for the way his readlists morphed throughout the game. I look at the way his readlists changed and can't help but think this is scum following changes in the game and putting together readlists as uncontentious as possible
What do you think of him compared to Real Folks Blues? I disliked him that game because it felt like he was just sort of floating along, and he feels pretty similar to there; the only major difference in my mind is the reasons I'm bothered by his interactions with me.
its hard to explain these nuances but im certain he's scum. he feels different for a lot of reasons, but what makes me comfortable keeping my vote on him is his reactions to being called scum here are unique to what i know him to be like. like yeah...sorry im still shit at explaining why people feel different to me when they do...im just confident he'll flip scum
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:15 pm

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That's actually pretty convincing tbh
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:28 am

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mod: I know you will hate me but I need to replace out.

Lynch Wisdom he's scum.
Don't buy the fake turn around.
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:36 am

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farside why? is it only bc of ingame frustration or sth else?
bcs if it is then stay. nacho and i and i think tammy and maybe tammy are not really sold on u being scum. ure focusing too much on wisdom
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:36 am

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wanna vote cakes with me? i promise he'll flip scum
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:37 am

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Well this will be interesting
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:37 am

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holy shit i need to stop confusing kagami and tammy
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:37 am

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I need to ISO cakez again before voting him.
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:38 am

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In post 1864, kraska77 wrote:holy shit i need to stop confusing kagami and tammy
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:43 am

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Nacho, i see you defending farside, defending me, defending yourself to Tammy, and discussing with kagami and infinity about things.

What i dont see you doing is scumhunting. You dont seem to care at all about finding the remaining scum.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:44 am

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VOTE: cakez
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:59 am

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In post 1867, Wisdom wrote:Nacho, i see you defending farside, defending me, defending yourself to Tammy, and discussing with kagami and infinity about things.

What i dont see you doing is scumhunting. You dont seem to care at all about finding the remaining scum.
I wonder why that could be....

I think that replace out from farside was pretty town, assuming it was from frustration and not IRL stuff (that would be null).
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:04 am

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In post 1867, Wisdom wrote:Nacho, i see you defending farside, defending me, defending yourself to Tammy, and discussing with kagami and infinity about things.

What i dont see you doing is scumhunting. You dont seem to care at all about finding the remaining scum.
I think that Cakez and Peregrine is scum. I think there's something off with the Leon situation but am not particularly inclined on exploring it right this second.
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:14 am

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and what are you doing about that?
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:15 am

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You are not pushing cakez and you are not pushing peregrine. Do you find skating by without doing either of these things effective or useful?
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:19 am

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Im currently thinking nacho/cakez if anyone was wondering

Cakez's nacho tunnel, while it feels fake, it also lacks any conviction to get it through
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:36 am

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Coming around to Cakez has been a recent development. I'm not overly excited about pushing Peregrine when he isn't around.
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