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I agree w/ this.In post 2249, pieguyn wrote:ugh everyone hang on and let me think.
I'm considering massclaiming here - I think it's probably correct because most people have claimed anyway, and without it I don't see us figuring out what the clusterfuck that was last night was, but I'm not sure. and ya Luna definitely blocked beeboy, but that isn't unambiguous quite yet because something else might have been what stopped the kill.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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You claim both miller and vig
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I wouldnt lie about my night actions to get someone lynched. That's something i consider very bad play, like fake guilties.In post 2233, SirCakez wrote:I honestly have very little faith you aren't just gambitting to get beeboy lynched because of your massive fight yesterday :/
I can try to confirm this tomorrow night?In post 2242, Aeronaut wrote:Aero is not the lynch because he's not done viggingBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Bulletproof Miller Vig is a gimmick role. I can see GiF using it here.
I'm against mass claiming but I'll go with what you decide.In post 2249, pieguyn wrote:ugh everyone hang on and let me think.
I'm considering massclaiming here - I think it's probably correct because most people have claimed anyway, and without it I don't see us figuring out what the clusterfuck that was last night was, but I'm not sure. and ya Luna definitely blocked beeboy, but that isn't unambiguous quite yet because something else might have been what stopped the kill.we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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Be better.In post 2252, Gamma Emerald wrote:You claim both miller and vig
Confirmed SK?
I mean, you can. But wouldn't it just come off as a kill anyway? Scum me could kill just as much as town me can.In post 2253, SirCakez wrote:
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I wouldnt lie about my night actions to get someone lynched. That's something i consider very bad play, like fake guilties.In post 2233, SirCakez wrote:I honestly have very little faith you aren't just gambitting to get beeboy lynched because of your massive fight yesterday :/
I can try to confirm this tomorrow night?In post 2242, Aeronaut wrote:Aero is not the lynch because he's not done vigging
Why is that?In post 2254, Nahdia wrote:Bulletproof Miller Vig is a gimmick role. I can see GiF using it here.
I'm against mass claiming but I'll go with what you decide.In post 2249, pieguyn wrote:ugh everyone hang on and let me think.
I'm considering massclaiming here - I think it's probably correct because most people have claimed anyway, and without it I don't see us figuring out what the clusterfuck that was last night was, but I'm not sure. and ya Luna definitely blocked beeboy, but that isn't unambiguous quite yet because something else might have been what stopped the kill.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Why am I against mass claiming?
Uh, explaining why I'm against it kind of defeats the purpose....we're all made of stories | remember to take your b12 | sign up for a GTKAS thread! (request access here)
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It would confirm you as not-group scum, assuming there is another kill @AeroBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Fair pointIn post 2256, Nahdia wrote:Why am I against mass claiming?
Uh, explaining why I'm against it kind of defeats the purpose....
I'm pretty much already confirmed not-groupscum since I shot groupscum.In post 2257, SirCakez wrote:It would confirm you as not-group scum, assuming there is another kill @Aero
Just to be clear, if I was lying about killing Varsoon, then whoever did could easily come out and say "hey, I killed Varsoon" and get me lynched as scum. Nobody has/will try to CC me because that would out them as scum.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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What did you mean in this post?In post 117, Dwlee99 wrote:
my role pm makes me believe varsoon is probably scumIn post 113, mhsmith0 wrote:
Because _____?In post 111, Dwlee99 wrote:guys vote varsoon
Like, it seems even more random than usual to just be voting a 0 poster.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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Except you could just be scum trying to draw out the real vigIn post 2258, Aeronaut wrote:
Fair pointIn post 2256, Nahdia wrote:Why am I against mass claiming?
Uh, explaining why I'm against it kind of defeats the purpose....
I'm pretty much already confirmed not-groupscum since I shot groupscum.In post 2257, SirCakez wrote:It would confirm you as not-group scum, assuming there is another kill @Aero
Just to be clear, if I was lying about killing Varsoon, then whoever did could easily come out and say "hey, I killed Varsoon" and get me lynched as scum. Nobody has/will try to CC me because that would out them as scum.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Ok but you understand that it's definitely not worth it for scum!me to get myself lynched just to draw out the vig, right?In post 2263, SirCakez wrote:
Except you could just be scum trying to draw out the real vigIn post 2258, Aeronaut wrote:
Fair pointIn post 2256, Nahdia wrote:Why am I against mass claiming?
Uh, explaining why I'm against it kind of defeats the purpose....
I'm pretty much already confirmed not-groupscum since I shot groupscum.In post 2257, SirCakez wrote:It would confirm you as not-group scum, assuming there is another kill @Aero
Just to be clear, if I was lying about killing Varsoon, then whoever did could easily come out and say "hey, I killed Varsoon" and get me lynched as scum. Nobody has/will try to CC me because that would out them as scum.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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The posts I'm referencing:
"Dwlee is vote parking on Varsoon"In post 690, mhsmith0 wrote: Dwlee 108 - that seems basically null, especially since there was no real follow-up on it (had been vote-parking on varsoon, doesn't really push anyone from the observation, just makes it and moves on to a different topic)
Varsoon is nullIn post 757, mhsmith0 wrote:pieguyn - town lean
Varsoon - ???
Luna Fox - null
Gamma Emerald - town lean
Nahdia - ???
Wisdom - town lean
drealmerz7 - ???
SirCakez - ???
Aeronaut - town lean
beeboy - town
Dwlee99 - ???
pisskop - ???
I feel like I should have a decent scum read by now but I don't particularly.
In post 758, mhsmith0 wrote:As a simple example, I look at Varsoon's 744 and it displays a pretty profound lack of thread awareness given that he's pushing an argument that makes zero sense given what was actually happening. It's derpy enough to maybe be town (since scum would probably know basic stuff like "what was actually happening around the events that I'm talking about) but idk if Varsoon is any good at faking that sort of thing, or is actually derpy as scum.
Varsoon is dumb townIn post 763, mhsmith0 wrote:It's more that I've spent more time thinking on Luna's slot than the ???'s, so I'm actually null on her, compared to some of the other slots where I don't really have a developed opinion. Some, like Varsoon, Nahdia, and dwlee, I'm not really sure that there's enough there that I could have a meaningful opinion yet (I'm mulling over whether it's fair to at least slight town read varsoon for the derp in 744, haven't decided yet). I don't really feel good about my ability to read Cakez and probably should spend more time there but haven't. I've also been demotivated from really digging through dreal's shit-posting and deciding what I should be thinking about him.
No opinion.In post 907, mhsmith0 wrote: Probably should re-read varsoon and actually get an opinion there.
Dwlee is vote parking on VarsoonIn post 957, mhsmith0 wrote: meh. competent wolves are decent at making sensible posts. what pings me as plausible scum play here is that there's no follow-up. He makes the point that wagon speed analysis is bad and then stops caring about it. Which is weird because if he's arguing against a defense of you based on wagon speed, then it'd make sense to actually evaluate your wagon in some kind of meaningful manner. Instead he just goes back to "vote varsoon", which if he's a wolf is a nice way to look like he's doing something without actually having to do anything of substance.
In post 1777, mhsmith0 wrote:Fair point. She did do it to push varsoon. Def. want drealz before v.
Drealz before VIn post 1779, mhsmith0 wrote:Not conf town but I'd rather lynch drealz than v.
Anddd Varsoon is in his scum pile.In post 2088, mhsmith0 wrote: Frankly, I just want someone in my POE to die so we can move the hell on. Drealz, cakey, varsoon, dwlee. Let's just pick one and move on. It's probably just 10v3, it's not like this is LYLO.2023 W/L | 1-0-
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skimming Aero's ISO, I think a kill on him actually *would* make some amount of sense. depending on the configuration of the scum team, they can't kill me since I said in no uncertain terms that Varsoon should be the lynch if I was to get killed N1 and people would actually have followed it - plus, if my other reads were good (for instance, if Wisdom is scum) then drawing attention to my reads would completely fuck them over (this sounds totally stupid, but I shit you not I have had this happen to me in a game before). besides that, now that we know Varsoon is scum I can't *really* see anyone else being the kill, so might as well try a kill on the person who softed that his role was powerful and who would be likely to vote-park on at least one of them with no real recourse.
I'm tossing around possibilities in my head for what optimal play is *if* we don't massclaim fully, but at the very least I feel pretty sure we should do these two things:
1. vig if it isn't Aero should claim. it's true that they can just shoot him overnight, but a vig CC means Aero is just scum and we have 2 scum dead, so not much of a reason to bother remaining hidden. I feel mostly sure no one will claim this, because the people who are unclaimed are either beeboy (who was RB'ed) or people who I don't see shooting Varsoon, but should be done for completeness.
2. Aero should claim his BP status. again - don't really see a reason to keep it hidden, we have a pretty major advantage atm and I don't *actually* see much of a disadvantage in doing this - scum RB if they have one is likely gonna be on him regardless now that he's claimed, BP means he can't die anyway, not BP still at least gives him one more night and scum still have to deal with both him and whatever Cakez is
beyond that, the question is, if the outcome is (no vig cc, Aero isn't BP), then if someone has reason to believe they made a successful save, should they claim? i'm thinking of ways we could maybe do this without outing the identity of the healer, but i am not really coming up with anything. if we leave it at that, then either the kill N1 was successfully healed or beeboy is scum, and we can keep that in mind for when a massclaim eventually happens later
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