sure. if that makes you happy.In post 521, Fro99er wrote:So you're scumreading me for being sitewide VLA?
Lowell, join me.im not voting gl.
sure. if that makes you happy.In post 521, Fro99er wrote:So you're scumreading me for being sitewide VLA?
thoughts on my case against frogger? any other game thoughts?In post 310, Sobolev Space wrote:@Eddie - if you want more content from me ask me questions. I've been trying to keep my reads closer to my chest than in previous games (for various reasons) but I'm still happy to work with y'all if you think I haven't been providing enough info.
Why not GL?In post 525, Eddie Cane wrote:sure. if that makes you happy.In post 521, Fro99er wrote:So you're scumreading me for being sitewide VLA?
Lowell, join me.im not voting gl.
do you scumread GL?In post 528, Eddie Cane wrote:I scum read frogger a lot more
^twuth!In post 482, borkjerfkin wrote:for two people who know each other well, between frog and bella i see a lot more evidence of the former trying to read the latter than the reverse
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maybe I'm ace day1 town-readerIn post 524, Lowell wrote: @TTTT, no, seriously, no one ever thinks I'm town D1. You are suspicious.
In post 379, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:You're arguing that it's scummy to not have a sincere and thorough scumread 160 posts in the game, which I find hard to believe. I had no townvibes whatsoever from your opening two posts, saw no evidence of game-solving, wanted you to get pressured/wagoned. That's entirely different from saying "I am very confident that SBF is scum", which feels like the arbitrary and disingenuous standard that you'ree trying to impose on me.No townvibes = null. Significant scum vibes = SR. A SR is literally "I am confident this slot is scum". This is extremely straight-forward. There is meaningful contradiction in your stances and you can't talk your way out of this no matter how far you bend over backwards.1 )
In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:Your radar for Town motivation is either miscalibrated or not being used in this game, sorry. Talking to my townreads to try to get them to understand/townread me is not "purposeless".I find your manner of discourse ultimately purposeless as the information provided by the exchanges does little to nothing to sort alignments according to any method of scumhunting I understand and it is far too early in the game to begin digesting reads with mutual TRs in the effort to reach compromise. There is simply no way to be sure enough in your reads on Day 1 for this and it is nonsensical to begin focusing on compromise when most of us have not even solidified our reads yet in the first place. Talking in this manner is, however, an excellent way to be TRed without actually producing content that advances the game state or roots out any scum. In short, your content lacks any meaningful Town motivation that I can detect.2 )
In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:And so what my vote isn't on you anymore? Why does that matter?Because it makes no sense to move your vote off your SR immediately after finding fault in all of their content, and it makes less sense to vote the slot you previously townleaned because of an argument that your SR also made. If you weren't aware that I was calling you opportunistic I can only assume you were selectively reading my post.3a )
In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:No you didn't, if you called it opportunistic please show me where you did. And this entire section reads to me like you care more about "scoring points" in the argument about my alignment more than honestly and openly assessing my play and my alignment.288: "His SR on this slot lacks any semblance of authenticity and he basically just followed Cane."3b )
In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:My read on Lowell changed because of his continued scumread on me for weak reasons. I changed the read. Why do you think that makes me scum, why is that something that cannot come from Town?See above and my previous post for the answer.3c )
In post 361, GuiltyLion wrote:a) I can and will put my vote wherever the hell I want, thank you
and b) I will continue responding to every single post you make, so don't give me this bullshit about "not wanting focus on our exchange".Yes, you're forced to, given that I called you out. Changing your vote in the way you did strongly suggests that you wanted attention elsewhere, however. I don't believe that you lost your scumread on me after my post and gained a scumread on Lowell strong enough to warrant moving the vote, I believe that you moved your vote onto an easier target.4 )
In post 363, GuiltyLion wrote:like SBF's argument boils down to
1) GL voted me but didn't believe it
2) GL moved his vote off of me when I pushed back on him
3) he must be doing this because he doesn't want attention on me calling him out
1) is because it's early and I usually don't have much conviction in my scumreads early unless I find something extremely compelling, which hasn't happened this game
2) was due to the fact that I hated Lowell's reasons for scumreading/voting me and I did think SBF made a good point about SS which made me question whether they are operating from a town mindset
3) is just assumptions and completely made upThis is a pretty sad attempt at a misrep, honestly. The fact that you're appealing to others in this way is highly suspect.5 )
also, HERE is a good example of a misrep. The "null point" is honestly the least important and weakest part of my 'case' on Lowell (I also don't really feel it's a case, just a few succinct damning points). What Lowell omitted and ignored are the two better reasons that I already gave in thread:In post 523, Lowell wrote:His entire case on me amounts to "Lowell thinks in extremes and said someone is null. CONTRADICTION!" I can make his case against me better than he can, and it only took me one sentence.
can you ask a more focused question please!
probably very close to where i am (still think I like SS more than you do, TTTT is definitely better than before but not ready to hard town him and none of my scumreads are confident ones)In post 539, GuiltyLion wrote:town: {bork, eddie, Fro99er, TTTT}
meh: {SS, SBF, Bella}
scum: {Lowell}
feels not genuine. ["I liked generally the tone of his posts. What I didn't like is this particular post where I didn't like his tone, the thing I just said I liked"] and it just reads instead to me like it's a combination of two dissonant parrots (the former of TTTT's 158 and the latter of Frogger's 121) instead of an organic readbella wrote: seee, tonally I liked Lowell for town, but his post with his vote for me in it didn't look like it should end with a vote for me. butis super tonally weird - kara is a reference to a recent survivor game, and i'd expect it to be an rvs reference, but then 'i flipped red'. ugh.lowell wrote:VOTE: bella
Kara! Good to see you again. Sorry you flipped red this time.
not really sure if I agree; enough people were digging their heels in against the GL wagonIn post 545, Sobolev Space wrote:Sorry for the absence all. Will read what I missed and post thoughts.
I want to be on the record as thinking Lowell's last post is terrible though.
You v Frogger looks TvT. Given the content of your arguments I'd say its largely a clash of playstyles. I disagree with both of your cases but can see them coming from a town mindset.In post 526, Eddie Cane wrote:thoughts on my case against frogger? any other game thoughts?
Disagree with this. SBFs content has been tunneling the hell out of a few people with bad arguments which I've seen mostly used as a scum strategy.In post 533, Eddie Cane wrote:good attitude, good content (with just about no filler), rubs me the right way.