Then how does something feel off about her play, if you aren't familiar with it?In post 99, RadiantCowbells wrote:Y would i be familiar with her play i've played like 3 games with her
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Dude what“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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google: Derp: foolishness or stupidityIn post 34, oldwino wrote:I looked up 'derp' and don't understand smith's and grey's uses of it. If anyone would explain, this newbie would appreciate a better explanation that I find in the glossary.
urbandictionary: herp derp: An expression used when a person, or yourself, has done somthing extremely stupid and dopey
i.e. Grey derped (and possibly derp-cleared multiple people if he was scum)Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Just for the sake of the argument, if RC was in fact lying about this (as opposed to likelier explanations like "he's interpreting/communicating about IC guidelines differently than you" or "he doesn't care to bother reading/remembering the IC guidelines carefully"), why is this AI? This seems like a nothing point to me.In post 35, -Grey- wrote:
Lying about theory is against IC guidelines regardless of their alignment and you damned well know this.In post 33, RadiantCowbells wrote:The IC is required to lie to the town as scum. She should not lie about good play principles and such but lying about how a claim order would optimally be done is absolutely fair game.
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leaning town on this reaction. RC's probably capable of faking it as scum, but I think this is exactly how town!him reads where things were at this pointIn post 40, RadiantCowbells wrote:When you say 'only the IC can be trusted to give honest advice' and imply that I'm going to sit there and lie to people as a teacher that's just wtf.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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out of curiosity, was this pre-written? Especially the RQS part?In post 46, mastina wrote:Hi there! I'm mastina, your IC.
My job here is to teach you not to make moronic moves!
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Why on all of those? RC is almost certainly capable of constructing a decent-looking RVS post as scum; "I'm voting you because salt from last game" is a super easy RVS vote for scum!RC to make, so it seems entirely null to me.In post 57, mastina wrote:...
I honestly don't see any real benefit to it, but on the other hand I also don't really see much harm in it either. It's unorthodox, but I'm not in opposition to the idea, so I'll throw my support behind it with a not-BP claim.In post 24, mhsmith0 wrote:I think that "it's a good idea, trust us on this and hold us accountable for it if we're proven wrong" is a sufficient argument at this stage.Town?
Scum?
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Vote: oldwino.
AA/DW's RVS votes were basically empty; what in particular suggests that they were anything other than null?
and OW's vote-back seems like the least scummy part of that post; why does that snippet of a vote-back ping you as scummy?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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OMGUS is the shit standard of scumtells. OMGUS is natural and normal for town, especially town who feel like the push on them is bullshit (and you of all people should should be cautious of scumreading RC for OMGUS'ing you, unless I'm just totally misremembering how things went between you two in 1770). A newbie player engaging in it MIGHT be a bit of a town lean for it, and an experienced player engaging in it is basically null for the exercise for the most part.In post 63, -Grey- wrote:
If OMGUS is the gold standard of scumtells, that's all the more reason to lynch RC.In post 60, DogWatch wrote:@mastina
are you suggesting oldwino's vote was merely an OMGUS? and if so, is that necessarily a scum read?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Agreed on RC's responses, I'm much less certain on Grey, and you're really gonna have to explain what in particular OW/DW are doing to ping you there. I can maybe see the idea that OW was sitting out the fight as scum (though I don't especially see how you distinguish that from newb town who doesn't know what to do in that kind of situation), but you haven't discussed your DW read at all other than stating that it exists, and nothing in her responses seems to ping me.In post 70, mastina wrote:And in that fight, I like your responses; I don't hate Grey's responses; I do have a distaste for oldwino and DogWatch's responses.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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In post 72, mastina wrote:Well technically speaking? Yes. Grey has said some scummy things; mhsmith has said some scummy things; aa-dono's entrance was a little scummy; I am flat-out scumreading DogWatch and oldwino.
What in particular of his stuff seems scummy to you?Grey has said some scummy things
citations neededmhsmith has said some scummy things;
explanation neededaa-dono's entrance was a little scummy;
explanation needed for DW, additional detail needed for OW (preferably with more detail about how you distinguish town taking a backseat from a fight from scum doing the same)I am flat-out scumreading DogWatch and oldwino.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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very slightly villagery of mastina here, since it sticks to an overall logic and is tonally ok.In post 73, mastina wrote:
Because they are probably town.In post 69, -Grey- wrote:How is it that two players that haven't even posted yet are above null?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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I fixed your typos. I guess it could be scum with a buddy who didn't advise him (or he didn't bother reading advice, or he's just going for a super awkward derp-clear attempt), but lynchbait is my gut reaction to that bitIn post 79, Ulti wrote:Why is everyone's role displayed below their name? Doesn't that make this game really easy for town to win?Hello everyone! I will be your lynchbait for this gameShowhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
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In post 81, -Grey- wrote:
Does it?In post 79, Ulti wrote:Why is everyone's role displayed below their name? Doesn't that make this game really easy for town to win?
If that's true, why is Mafia Scum mastina voting Goon oldwino?In post 87, -Grey- wrote:
I wanted to know why he'd think scum would be voting scum.In post 85, DogWatch wrote:
Why needlessly confuse a new player?In post 83, -Grey- wrote:
Spoilsport.In post 82, DogWatch wrote:
Those are just forum user ranks based on post count, not our roles.In post 79, Ulti wrote:Why is everyone's role displayed below their name? Doesn't that make this game really easy for town to win?
This sequence was actually decent for Grey. 81 was a pretty plausible attempt at getting info from someone (and getting something honest from a "confused newbie" is actually super useful, especially when it comes to trying to sort whether his original post was fake, and/or how he'd process realizing what was actually going on). I don't have any issue with his followups to DW either.In post 89, -Grey- wrote:
The two aren't mutually excursive.In post 88, DogWatch wrote:ok, because you thought that might give us some info about how he views mafia strategy? Or because you thought it was humorous?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Fair enough I guess. I couldn't quite pick up what you meant by that, but I think that makes snese.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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What is lynch bait?In post 116, mhsmith0 wrote:
I fixed your typos. I guess it could be scum with a buddy who didn't advise him (or he didn't bother reading advice, or he's just going for a super awkward derp-clear attempt), but lynchbait is my gut reaction to that bitIn post 79, Ulti wrote:Why is everyone's role displayed below their name? Doesn't that make this game really easy for town to win?Hello everyone! I will be your lynchbait for this game-
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A player who plays in a way that makes everyone (or at least a bunch of people) want to lynch him/her.In post 121, Ulti wrote:What is lynch bait?Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Thank you I have not played this before and am unfamiliar with game termsIn post 122, mhsmith0 wrote:
A player who plays in a way that makes everyone (or at least a bunch of people) want to lynch him/her.In post 121, Ulti wrote:What is lynch bait?-
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Any thoughts on the proceedings so far?
Also, we're doing a "I'm town BP" or "I'm not town BP" massclaim. please claim BP or not BP (this is independent of any OTHER role you may or may not have, we're just asking BP or not BP)Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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