BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[Creature]

Giving you a chance, follow this:

VOTE: BYF

[kuror0]

ok. Sorry guys but I suddenly got no time at all and will be this way for at least 1 more week so I will replace out to let someone who can help more join the game. my gut tells me that sakura is scum but what do I know I have only read like half the thread.

@Mod Requesting replacement due to life being a bitch.

[Vecna]

vecna's avatar makes me want to lynch him
I hope that's not actually biasing my slight scumread on the slot

How can you hate on beavis and butthead? This statement itself also makes me want to lynch you

[Vecna]

Hmmmm creature does appear to be panicking quite hard, which is not something im used to from him under pressure.

[Sakura Hana]

Talk to me why youre scumreading me.

You clearly haven't been reading my posts then.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So I see in my absence the SAD wagon has melted away … if I end up dead tonight I absolutely want him dead ASAP. By the way -1249 is not how Town pushing on a scum read talks about said scumread …

VOTE: Vecna

Moving on to my next scum read since the SAD wagon has fallen away. You can see more of my problems below and I’ve already explained why his responses in the Neighborhood feel like scum forcing a reason to fight a Mass Neighborhood claim (which 99.9995% was so Pro Town it wasn’t funny).

Maquis personally I want to lynch for posts like 899 and . Way too much sad sack active lurking for my taste. Also comments from the Neighborhood don’t sit right with me.

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Also sort of scum reading beeboy and sakura but due to low content(look whos talking) it is hard for me to get a stronger read

Please explain further what you mean by “low content” for these two and why that means scum ..

Nevermind ... you replaced out ...

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MoI's town

Here’s a fun exercise … tell me why you are Town reading me.

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I've never seen his scum game and I don't think that's anything that would be out of the realm of possibility for him to fake as scum.

I think people are writing him off as town way too early. There's a noticeable lack of presence here that I haven't experienced in any other town games of his. He voted for Creature awhile ago and I still don't know why. I don't really recall him ever making a vote that wasn't backed up by some line of thinking.

I don't think this is a smoking gun or that this is necessarily reason to scum read him. If he's town I'm sure it will become extremely obvious at some point when he gets his head in the game.

The lack of “presence” I don’t see how you get that to this stage. This is a Large game and Gork is as active and engaged as I saw him in both TV Characters and Defcon. Not seeing his scum game really is a non-starter for me .. why haven’t you gone to do some looking to see what scum Gork tends to do?

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Second, MoI your interaction with SAD helped me sort you.

How exactly did me pushing on SAD help clarify your read on me VoT?

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Oh let’s talk about Vecna …

Nonsensical defense post based on thing at all

This is scum decrediting right here. I can safely say that Firebringer would absolutely use his well known distates for Yume to help justify a push on her as scum partners for Town cred. So this is scum looking to find things to infer are scummy as opposed to processing information.

And yet to this point you have completely ignored my last post on the matter in our PT. Extrapolating your one game of the same moderator is no guarantee for this setup. And you just outted our entire neighbourhood without us giving you permission, OR you finishing the discussion, OR countering any of my valid concerns.

Let’s address the misrep first – “based on a single game” … clearly it was not since it is based on Inorganic and Organic Chemistry (you know … the direct prequels to this game) and UPick Science. Not sure why he’s specifically lie about that since both Marquis and Creature can confirm that information.

And then let’s address the “ignored my last post” point. That post was “hey, let’s not bring this discussion to the main thread” which I could care less about his preferences given I’m scum reading him for his reaction in the PT and want that information provided as widely as possible.

Lastly the “not finishing the discussion” point .. it was already finished the minute he stated “Oh no, scumz might have super sekrit abilities triggered by Neighborhood knowledge” stance. This is an semi-Open game with full knowledge to everyone that there are four Neighborhoods. Even if you disagree with my meta stance that there will be 1 Town only Neighborhood then you have to know that scum already know exactly who is in what Neighborhood. So floating a “Oh god scum could get sekrit powers” makes no sense since scum are going to know the make-up of the Neighborhoods regardless if they are evenly split or there is a Town Neighborhood. It is a completely illogical stance on its face and that Vecna used it as an excuse to oppose a mass Neighborhood claim shows to scum motivation to keep Town in the dark as much as possible.

VOTE: Steven Quartz

This vote stays until a fuck is given by this slot

Here is scum trying to pressure a known flaker slot as opposed to actively voting any of the players he claims are scum (not that at this point he’s had many scum reads … mostly OMGUS reads for people who suspect him and attempts to buddy Gork and Majiffy).

And what gave you the impression i was scumreading MOI for his actions? Just because i dont agree with his reasoning and actions, doesnt mean I think it comes from scum.

That fence must really, really be comfortable …

Majiffy I keep finding hard to read, and is my wildcard. I do like how hes responding to me mostly though, and this feels best in line with how id expect people to respond.

So keeping this in mind go back and look at Vecna’s progression on Majiffy. He starts with a “dislike this player” approach but quickly shifts to “Haha, Imma buddy this as I think feeding his ego is the way to go”. When that doesn’t work we get the above where he can go either way depending on public sentiment.

How can you have a scumread on quartz?

So he’s flat out admitting he’s idling his vote on a slot he doesn’t think is scum for policy reasons that everyone and his brother say will not work …

Scum.

[Gorkington]

choo choo

vote: vecna

[Gorkington]

@marquis

, we should condense reads if/when you catch up.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, have you played with creature before recently?

The last game I played on site was probably before Creature even joined...

And before you go making a meta argument, I only accept those from certain players that have proven time and time again that they are good at it.

You mean absolutely nothing to me.

If the wagon weren't always stuck on me (or SAD), I could solve this game better.

If someone's gonna say I am not doing anything, I'll say that it's bullshit.

If I am town, scum will go to a night without feeling pressured at all. If we push more wagons, scum will have to bleed to survive the day.

If you are town?

Town would be saying "if I am lynched". Not "if I am town".

The fuck is this shit

Here’s a fun exercise … tell me why you are Town reading me.

Following up with FB about your QT notions to suss out a read on me.

viewtopic.php?p=8919503#p8919503

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

If I am town, scum will go to a night without feeling pressured at all. If we push more wagons, scum will have to bleed to survive the day.

If you are town?

Town would be saying "if I am lynched". Not "if I am town".

The fuck is this shit

Hmmmmm.

[Creature]

"Oh no, referred town as third person, therefore he must be scum" "Oh no, he used "if town" for himself, therefore scum"

[Majiffy]

That's not the point but okay.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Creature do you have reads right now.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Don't quote me your strikeout list.

[Creature]

Rem and Ram scum

VoT still looks bad

You not so much anymore

Vecna unsure

Listing the most important, I'm sorta lazy to list all my reads.

[Creature]

Who should we wagon?

[Majiffy]

Do you have any scum reads that

aren't

someone else's flavor of last week?

[Creature]

What flavor?

[Rick and Andrea]

Creature, could you give me two-three sentences on your top 4 reads. Doesn't have to be scumreads, just reads in general. Just your thoughts on them.

Thanks.

~Rick

[Rick and Andrea]

Creature, could you give me two-three sentences on your top 4 reads. Doesn't have to be scumreads, just reads in general. Just your thoughts on them.

Thanks.

~Rick

By this I mean two-three sentences on each of those reads.
Would go a long way.

~Rick

[Creature]

(Can't guarantee two-three sentences)

HS can actually read quite well. The fact she's obviously lying about my meta makes me think she's scum.

VoT looks scum because ThinkBig lurking is a scumtell (some would say he's usually a lurker, but I see him being more active as town). Titus idk.

Ser Arthur Dayne felt "different" and fitted well as my whiteknighter.

Vecna looks town, but not enough to be strong town.

[Creature]

Sorry, two-three senteces means I must go into their ISO, pick a post and point a flaw, which isn't a valid scumtell.

[Rem and Ram]

HS can actually read quite well. The fact she's obviously lying about my meta makes me think she's scum.

Oh you poor poor soul.
-Ali

[Creature]

One of us must be lying, so one of us must be scum.

[Majiffy]

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