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I can kind of squint and see this, even if it relies on a pretty crap premise (scum-me is considerably more likely to defend town-SS than town-me is becauseIn post 761, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:This is how a read evolves: you add pieces of information together and they gradually form a full picture. One piece of that in my read on your slot is your interactions with Space. Once the variable {Space} is defined, it affects my read on your slot. I am currently reading your defense of Space as Town naivety, because I do not know the alignment of Space. If the alignment of Space were known to me as Town, then I would reconsider reading your defense of Space as scum WK. Combined with the other pieces of information that I have on your slot, this would probably result in a scumlean. Given that if Space were Town GL would by my only SR and every other slot would be null or above, I would consider that scum was in {bork, GL}. Therefore, operating according to knowledge I have right now, I believe there is at least 1 scum in {bork, Space}. Does that make sense?
The only thing I can say against this is did you look at 207In post 781, Sobolev Space wrote:I already mentioned the timing issue before but its essentially this: SBF's read on Eddie shifts drastically from 200 to 288. SBF claims this was because she saw Eddie's followthrough from his "opening move" which made her TR her. I don't buy it. Everything Eddie says about SBF between 200 and 288 is stuff that he already said before. We've asked SBF this a couple times:where she pretty much avoids the substance of the question and more recently in post 709 which she kind of responds to by saying:In post 336, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:Cane's opening was, as I see it, a reaction test. Scum love easy targets, and giving one to them is a very effective way to hunt.In post 290, borkjerfkin wrote:@SBF: more specifically, what changed between 200 and now, considering I think Eddie's trajectory on you has not changed one iota since then and you don't seem to be townreading him for any other reasonBut if you look at the posts here's what Eddie says in 280 and 287:In post 720, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:This just shows that you aren't reading this game with the intent to sort. There's nothing strange about the timing of 288. It closely follows 280 and 287. That's called satisfaction.In post 706, Sobolev Space wrote:Essentially I don't think Eddie expressed any new sentiments in his read on her before 288 that he hadn't already expressed before 200 which makes the sudden change seem odd.In post 287, Eddie Cane wrote:this is why I'm voting sbf. she has done 0. 0. she came back and produced nothing. I want her to take stances and start posting.And here's what he says in 174 (before she started TRing him):In post 280, Eddie Cane wrote:sbf has done nothing and it's 12 pages in. is that normal for her? we've never played before.Pretty much the same right? I don't buy that 280 and 287 caused SBF to changer her mind about Eddie because they show some follow through that 174 doesn't. More likely that SBF realized her initial vote on Eddie looked opportunistic and was unjustified and is making up reasons to explain her behavior. This is pretty blatantly contradictory and she's avoided directly answering the question this whole time.In post 174, Eddie Cane wrote:sbf is a good vote for now. he has basically checked in and that's it. this game is new but God damn 2 short posts with no content is not enough. voting will pressure him to actually do something - or justify voting me at the the very least.
his push on you was mainly about you not posting, which as SS pointed out he posted about prior to post 200.In post 658, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:He followed it up by pressuring the slot that pressured him for this, which revealed the Town motivation hidden in his opening, namely to instigate content by appearing anti-town. His push on me was designed to sort me and punish me for opportunism if my reasons for voting him were not legitimate. There was no agenda besides hunting, and for this I townread the slot.
Because town!bork knows that his reads have a very high chance of being inaccurate part-way through Day 1 and doesn't hinder other slots from scumhunting (or giving the appearance of it). Scum!bork, on the other hand, knows the alignment of Space and therefore defends her to prove the quality of his reads were the slot ever to flip and also to buddy up to the slot and potentially gain an ally. Like you are seriously beginning to make me think you are scum with how heavily you are dumbtelling and chainsawing this stuff. You've consistently ignored the actual substance in my posts to nitpick on tiny things that could potentially be contradictions or missed logic, which forces me to explain everything to you in ridiculous detail as if you're a newbie and in the process totally distracts everyone from my ACTUAL scumhunting. This is seriously the issue I brought up with GL about the way he's been explaining his reads, except you're forcing me to deal with your nonsense rather than daring me to approach it.In post 780, borkjerfkin wrote:I can kind of squint and see this, even if it relies on a pretty crap premise (scum-me is considerably more likely to defend town-SS than town-me is becausewho the fuck knows)
Is this seriously this difficult to understand? He pushes me almost exclusively and yet he is also sorting other slots at the same time. It's completely obvious by 287 that his push on me was genuine and that the anti-town opening was a scumhunting technique.In post 785, Fro99er wrote:@SBF what about eddie's reaction between 200 and 288 made you change your read of him?
I think you clearly don't.In post 773, Fro99er wrote:I think I know who you areIn post 771, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:I'm not going to fucking explain to you guys how to play mafia.
the game had progressed enough, I took it as more of a length thing where she decided I was genuine.In post 731, Sobolev Space wrote:Finished my work.
VOTE: SBF
Eddie I want you to explain your take on the timing issue because I don't buy what SBF is saying. The sentiments you express in 280 and 287 (i.e. SBF isn't doing anything) you express equally well in 174.
Heading to bed so will have to make my longer post tomorrow. I've already covered the basic reasons why I'm SRing SBF (although if anyone wants me to elaborate I will) so I was mainly just planning on going point by point through her case on me.
Fuck you? I reserve the right to ask about things i don't understand or seem off to me. If you don't want to deal with that then one of us has a problem and it isnt me.In post 793, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:Like you are seriously beginning to make me think you are scum with how heavily you are dumbtelling
Ugh. Lets back up because i know you're probably not trying to say this, but i feel that you're saying that only scum would defend a townread Because town might be wrong in doing so.In post 793, SweetBlueFlowers wrote:Because town!bork knows that his reads have a very high chance of being inaccurate part-way through Day 1 and doesn't hinder other slots from scumhunting (or giving the appearance of it).
Noted!In post 798, Lowell wrote:@mod, V/LA until Tuesday, heading off to the beach, starting in about 8 hours.