No, I agree. But bad thought processes are still bad thought processes.In post 349, RadiantCowbells wrote:Dogwatch is obvtown and I'm willing to lynch anyone scumreading them.
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Don't make me move my vote off scum just to spite vote Dogwatch.In post 351, RadiantCowbells wrote:Did you just question my dogwatch townread you insolent monkey“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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VOTE: Dogwatch“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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I'm so sigging that after this game.In post 355, DogWatch wrote:You type like a Bond villain.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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It's kinda hard to put into words?In post 357, DogWatch wrote:There's a certain pompous precision to it.
Anyway, in post 158 you state smith seems town to you. But after a supposed misrep about your meta, you vote him. Was this your first suspicion of him all game? Was there any progress to it or just a sudden jump?
As you've surely seen by now, Smith is a very detail-oriented player... so when he starts deliberately ignoring details to favor his narrative, it provokes my suspicion.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Not really, just a last word kinda guy.In post 359, DogWatch wrote:Are you just as detail-oriented? You've been in two big spats already which both went on for a while. Are you naturally argumentative about details?
You know the type, I'm sure. Obnoxious. Self-righteous. Unyielding.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Not once you get some experience under your belt and learn to look beyond superficial appearances.In post 362, DogWatch wrote:And hard to sort in a game of mafia.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Lol, fair enough.In post 364, DogWatch wrote:You can remove your spite vote, Dr. No.
VOTE: mhsmith0“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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for the record, the accusation based in fact was that I didn't do the necessary work to validate Grey's meta comparison and was like "well this doesn't look right, explain". This, while accurate, is non alignment indicative (for what I think are very obvious reasons)In post 358, -Grey- wrote:when he starts deliberately ignoring details to favor his narrative
Grey's accusation in that post, that I deliberately ignored details in order to further a narrative, potentially is alignment indicative, if it actually happened. It did not, and indeed Grey has found himself unable to actually explain in any kind of clear manner how said action actually occurred. You can tell by the fact that it's unclear what details I ignored in order to further what narrative, and that he seems to be unable to actually explain this in a clear manner.
You can put this to the test by filling in the blanks on "Smith in post X ignored detail Y in order to further narrative Z". Anyone who can do so based on what Grey has been saying gets a cookie.
PS Some simple counters to attempts to fill in the blanks there
1) I speculated on Grey being a possible partner of oldwino when this whole thing began. No details were ignored at that point (it's also unclear what narrative I'm trying to further, as a "well I guess these are possible partners" is pretty weak as a narrative to begin with, all the more so from a perspective of townreading oldwino, as Grey claims to be doing)
2) I asked Grey to explain what looked like a questionable meta example. This is where I supposedly ignored details, but it's fairly clear that this was not done in order to further any kind of narrative, especially since I was literally asking him to explain as opposed to a "aha! grey's meta example is wrong therefore he is scum" or the like kind of narrative.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Save your word soup.
It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.In post 317, mhsmith0 wrote:
(and were on BTM before that)In post 1014, Aristodog wrote:
With 9 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch
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and searching for "not_mafia" in your ISO makes him barely show up.In post 121, -Grey- wrote:
We ride together.In post 119, RadiantCowbells wrote:
I was busy talking about other people's alignments. Don't worry I got you covered now fam.In post 117, -Grey- wrote:
Well shit man, why didn't you say so in the first place?!In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am town though so
We die together.
Bad boys for life.
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How did you "bus the hell out of him" exactly?
Pasting a wagon where I was not bussing does not even negate a little bit the fact I bussed the shit out of my team.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Which is NAI as I've discussed. And certainly was not done to "further a narrative", as you so nonsensically accuse me of doing.In post 367, -Grey- wrote:It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.Showhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mhsmith0
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Idgaf what you've discussed.In post 368, mhsmith0 wrote:
Which is NAI as I've discussed. And certainly was not done to "further a narrative", as you so nonsensically accuse me of doing.In post 367, -Grey- wrote:It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.
I obviously disagree.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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As a general rule, I don't bus.In post 369, DogWatch wrote:Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.
However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.
So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.
Clear as mud?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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What narrative was I furthering, and how was I furthering it? You very much seem to be taking a "screw you for not engaging with my meta example as I wanted you to" perspective and conflating it into some sort of ridiculous scum strategy and conf!biasing the hell out of the whole back and forth. I suppose I should look at whether you're good at making bad cases like this as scum, though my gut says that you're simply being derpy town rn.
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Oh, so the Judas role created that situation? I missed that.In post 371, -Grey- wrote:
As a general rule, I don't bus.In post 369, DogWatch wrote:Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.
However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.
So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.
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Yup.In post 373, DogWatch wrote:
Oh, so the Judas role created that situation? I missed that.In post 371, -Grey- wrote:
As a general rule, I don't bus.In post 369, DogWatch wrote:Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.
However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.
So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.
Clear as mud?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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