Newbie 1779 | Spring | Endgame

[-Grey-]

Dogwatch is obvtown and I'm willing to lynch anyone scumreading them.

No, I agree. But bad thought processes are still bad thought processes.

[RadiantCowbells]

Did you just question my dogwatch townread you insolent monkey

[-Grey-]

Did you just question my dogwatch townread you insolent monkey

Don't make me move my vote off scum just to spite vote Dogwatch.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: grey

[-Grey-]

VOTE: Dogwatch

[DogWatch]

You type like a Bond villain.

[-Grey-]

You type like a Bond villain.

I'm so sigging that after this game.

[DogWatch]

There's a certain pompous precision to it.

Anyway, in post 158 you state smith seems town to you. But after a supposed misrep about your meta, you vote him. Was this your first suspicion of him all game? Was there any progress to it or just a sudden jump?

[-Grey-]

There's a certain pompous precision to it.

Anyway, in post 158 you state smith seems town to you. But after a supposed misrep about your meta, you vote him. Was this your first suspicion of him all game? Was there any progress to it or just a sudden jump?

It's kinda hard to put into words?

As you've surely seen by now, Smith is a very detail-oriented player... so when he starts deliberately ignoring details to favor his narrative, it provokes my suspicion.

[DogWatch]

Are you just as detail-oriented? You've been in two big spats already which both went on for a while. Are you naturally argumentative about details?

[DogWatch]

That wasn't an accusatory tone, just a curiosity.

[-Grey-]

Are you just as detail-oriented? You've been in two big spats already which both went on for a while. Are you naturally argumentative about details?

Not really, just a last word kinda guy.

You know the type, I'm sure. Obnoxious. Self-righteous. Unyielding.

[DogWatch]

And hard to sort in a game of mafia.

[-Grey-]

And hard to sort in a game of mafia.

Not once you get some experience under your belt and learn to look beyond superficial appearances.

[DogWatch]

You can remove your spite vote, Dr. No.

[-Grey-]

You can remove your spite vote, Dr. No.

Lol, fair enough.

VOTE: mhsmith0

[mhsmith0]

when he starts deliberately ignoring details to favor his narrative

for the record, the accusation based in fact was that I didn't do the necessary work to validate Grey's meta comparison and was like "well this doesn't look right, explain". This, while accurate, is non alignment indicative (for what I think are very obvious reasons)

Grey's accusation in that post, that I deliberately ignored details in order to further a narrative, potentially is alignment indicative, if it actually happened. It did not, and indeed Grey has found himself unable to actually explain in any kind of clear manner how said action actually occurred. You can tell by the fact that it's unclear what details I ignored in order to further what narrative, and that he seems to be unable to actually explain this in a clear manner.

You can put this to the test by filling in the blanks on "Smith in post X ignored detail Y in order to further narrative Z". Anyone who can do so based on what Grey has been saying gets a cookie.

PS Some simple counters to attempts to fill in the blanks there
1) I speculated on Grey being a possible partner of oldwino when this whole thing began. No details were ignored at that point (it's also unclear what narrative I'm trying to further, as a "well I guess these are possible partners" is pretty weak as a narrative to begin with, all the more so from a perspective of townreading oldwino, as Grey claims to be doing)
2) I asked Grey to explain what looked like a questionable meta example. This is where I supposedly ignored details, but it's fairly clear that this was not done in order to further any kind of narrative, especially since I was literally asking him to explain as opposed to a "aha! grey's meta example is wrong therefore he is scum" or the like kind of narrative.

[-Grey-]

Save your word soup.

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=70094

I bussed the shit out of Not_Mafia.

VC 2.LYNCH!

-Grey-

(5): BangTheMafia 958, Vaxkiller 970, Davesaz 972, Spade_Ace 973, -Grey- 975

Spade_Ace

(2): Alban 626, Not_Mafia 888

BangTheMafia

(1): Gamma Emerald 594

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(1): Kop

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(and were on BTM before that)

You had an early vote on him

I am town though so

Well shit man, why didn't you say so in the first place?!

I was busy talking about other people's alignments. Don't worry I got you covered now fam.

We ride together.
We die together.
Bad boys for life.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

and searching for "not_mafia" in your ISO makes him barely show up.

How did you "bus the hell out of him" exactly?

It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.

Pasting a wagon where I was not bussing does not even negate a little bit the fact I bussed the shit out of my team.

[mhsmith0]

It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.

Which is NAI as I've discussed. And certainly was not done to "further a narrative", as you so nonsensically accuse me of doing.

[DogWatch]

Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.

[-Grey-]

It's clear to anyone that has been reading that my gripe is about you pulling this irrelevant shit out of the game I linked instead of taking a few minutes to actually understand what I was actually driving at.

Which is NAI as I've discussed. And certainly was not done to "further a narrative", as you so nonsensically accuse me of doing.

Idgaf what you've discussed.

I obviously disagree.

[-Grey-]

Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.

As a general rule, I don't bus.

However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.

So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.

Clear as mud?

[mhsmith0]

Idgaf what you've discussed.

I obviously disagree.

What narrative was I furthering, and how was I furthering it? You very much seem to be taking a "screw you for not engaging with my meta example as I wanted you to" perspective and conflating it into some sort of ridiculous scum strategy and conf!biasing the hell out of the whole back and forth. I suppose I should look at whether you're good at making bad cases like this as scum, though my gut says that you're simply being derpy town rn.

[DogWatch]

Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.

As a general rule, I don't bus.

However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.

So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.

Clear as mud?

Oh, so the Judas role created that situation? I missed that.

[-Grey-]

Grey, for those of us having a hard time following this, how does your admission to bussing relate to 332 where you say you don't bus? I know you were trying to make a point but it doesn't look like either smith or myself are getting it.

As a general rule, I don't bus.

However, in that game, I was pretty much boxed into bussing because of reads I formulated as town that I was locked into once I became scum.

So while it was technically a bus, it didn't start out as the intention to sacrifice my team when I developed the scumread.

Clear as mud?

Oh, so the Judas role created that situation? I missed that.

Yup.