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Post Post #2456 (isolation #600) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:51 am

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In post 2419, Ryker wrote:Fuck, I have to do a lot more analysis. I need to see if I buy 5 PRs. I don't think I do. I'll double check myself later
Crazy idea: Two PR's are lying out of the five.
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Post Post #2457 (isolation #601) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:54 am

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I'm home now. I'm going to eat in a bit, and go to martial arts later. So I'm able to read and post for a bit.
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Post Post #2458 (isolation #602) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:55 am

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Ryker, Frozen Flame, Gamma. Talk to me.
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Post Post #2461 (isolation #603) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:18 am

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Alive


Transcend: Even Night Gunsmith
Mulch: VT
LaLight: Odd Night Cop
Ranmaru: 1-shot Novice Dayvig
FrozenFlame: VT
Ryker: VT
Titus rep. Tammy*: UB
Gamma Emerald: VT

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marshy* VT
FireScreamer VT
AdumbroDeus VT
Agent Sparkles* Neighbor
Zulfy VT
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Post Post #2462 (isolation #604) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:19 am

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Welcome Titus, glad to have you.
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #605) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:31 am

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We just finished mass claims. I can give highlights in a bit, but would like to hear your thoughts + reads.
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Post Post #2464 (isolation #606) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:42 am

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Day 1 Highlights
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Stalled
Mulch wagoned early day 1, Transcend, Zulfy wagoned,
Agent Sparkles and Zulfy wagons at end of day
Gamma puts AS at L1, Ryker puts Zulfy at L1
Transcend hops off AS scumread to hammer Zulfy in a forced manner
Zulfy lynched

Day 2 Highlights


Fire Scream wagoned
Lalight claims cop without any votes (but support from Ryker/Ran)
Transced vouches that Lalight is innocent with a soft, Tammy and Mulch soft
Agent Sparkles shot by Ranmaru
Fire Scream lynched

Day 3 Highlights


Mass Claim
Mulch claims VT first
Mulch votes Tammy for her target dying
Transcend claims guilty without saying who it is
Mulch asks questions about teams and who I trust between himself and transcend
Lalight votes Transcends guilty
We finish massclaim
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Post Post #2465 (isolation #607) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:43 am

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Top of my head, these are the highlights. That should help you have an idea of what to focus on. Others can give anything they think I missed.
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Post Post #2466 (isolation #608) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:50 am

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I will be preparing to go to Martial Arts soon. I'll be back in thread later.
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Post Post #2473 (isolation #609) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:14 am

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Lalight said he targetted marshy and got town. Marshy died n2.
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Post Post #2475 (isolation #610) » Wed May 31, 2017 11:27 am

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I would lean towards Gamma. More so because I suspect Transcend over Gamma at the moment. Reasoning later, martial arts now. I will list who I feel is the team tonight.
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #611) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:39 pm

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I'm here eating, and then will post thoughts.
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Post Post #2498 (isolation #612) » Wed May 31, 2017 2:56 pm

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Transcend can you explain to me why you have Titus as probtown?
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #613) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:35 pm

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Scum team:

Transcend + Lalight + Mulch.

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They are suspicious by play and by claims. Transcend has crumbs that are not convincing, and are past D1. It's possible his mates could have role copped myself or someone else to have an idea of what to crumb. Transcend didn't commit to Agent Sparkles, his main scumread of D1. He made an awkward switch to Zulfy. D2, he makes a VCA and tries to use the fact Agent Sparkles is scum and uses that to kill Firescream before having Agent Sparkles scum flip in hand. It turns out, both were town. He has a 'meh' stance on Gamma all game but when I bring up things that may turn his read to Gamma town he never considers it or speaks to me to reconsider it, he simply keeps him at meh. I note the non-engagement, and the apathetic play. Yet I don't find it to be suspicious.

Lalight, has scum intent in his play as I have already outlined in my . Most importantly his entrance is telling. His tone changes between D1 and D2 are also telling. I noted that in D2, he had the same tone as he did in the scum game he has given me. Another major concern is he claimed cop very early without pressure, most likely to seem town rather to gain reactions + a wagon. I would lynch him today if the Transcend/Gamma situation wasn't here. Yet, I want him dead. Eventually, I don't care if he is cop. He must die. He admits to playing scummy as a method of playing PR's. I don't totally agree with that. I don't trust his slot, I want it dead in the water.

Mulch I have explained as the one to be my least confident scum read, yet he is still suspicious. I mention his very early post discrediting ryker when he didn't even scum read him, is suspicious because there was no town motivation to post that other than to
shade
a player as he blames others of doing to him. I also find it majorly concerning that he had not done a full reads list but instead has been doing them 1 by 1 or 2 by 2. It would give him a chance to not give a stance on everyone, and he could come out with a stance out of no where on Transcend or Marshy. His reaction to the mass claim seemed like a soft, and then he claims VT which doesn't make sense. He can read, so there was no purpose to ask about mass claim. (He was like 'uh... right ok... I had a claim but ok...' is what it sounded like). I find his questioning telling, such as asking about who I'd trust between him and Transcend if Transcend gave him a guilty. I also agree with Ryker that his play this phase was bad, doesn't seem to be like a townie who is being cautious and wants to win the game. I also felt he wasn't really trying to sort Tammy but really just condemn her for missing her action.
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Post Post #2502 (isolation #614) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:35 pm

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On Claims:

Now on claims. I believe that it is possible we don't have a cop or gunsmith. I would expect scum to have the odd/even modifiers, though. Consider that Agent Sparkles flipped neighbor, which is an investigative role. I am a 1-shot vig. I would find it to be reasonable to have something to balance against the vig, which makes sense of being the universal back-up. I don't actually disbelieve tammy here, I just wish she didn't actually claim UB outright, but I do know she loves neighbor. Even so, if this is correct, then we can assume the UB + Vig may be legit. There's no protective in sight. I don't think there would be a cop and a gunsmith, which are two investigative alongside a neighbor. Ask yourselves if Tammy isn't UB, how would there be a role to balance my role? I don't think the gunsmith or cop would balance against them. Gunsmith seems like it would make sense alongside a vig because
a vig has a gun
but yet Transcend's crumbs are vague and don't actually mention anything about gunsmith. Everyone else is VT, it seems. I think that's it. I think Transcend and Lalight are both fake claiming, yes I know that's crazy. Notice Lalight's entrance to D3, was still suspicious, even when he is outed. I would expect a town cop to actually act with more bravado and energy after being outed, but I see none of that here. There is no town motivation there.
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Post Post #2503 (isolation #615) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:36 pm

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People that seriously doubt Lalight isn't cop, well. I'm gambling on Transcend today. If Lalight doesn't die tonight, lynch him.
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #616) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:37 pm

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In post 1937, Ranmaru wrote:Stealing this from Transcend:

Vote Count 1.21 - FINAL
Zulfy
(7):
marshy
, Mulch,
AdumbroDeus
, Tammy,
FireScreamer
, Ryker, Transcend
(LYNCH)

Agent Sparkles
(4):
Ranmaru
,
LaLight
, FrozenFlame, Gamma Emerald
marshy
(1):
Agent Sparkles


Not Voting
(1):
Zulfy


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-05-26 16:00:00)
In post 2247, PenguinPower wrote:
Vote Count 2.07 - FINAL:dead:
FireScreamer
(6):
marshy
,
LaLight
, Transcend, FrozenFlame, Mulch, Ryker
(LYNCH)
:dead:
Transcend
(1):
Ranmaru

Ryker
(1): Gamma Emerald

Not Voting
(2): Tammy,
FireScreamer


With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2017-06-07 06:00:00)

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No longer looking for a replacement for FireScreamer.

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Post Post #2505 (isolation #617) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:39 pm

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Also, I feel like Mulch is faking the 'oh now I have to push Gamma' to make it seem like he and gamma are linked, which would help support Transcend's guilty in a weird way.
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #618) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:43 pm

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@
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Post Post #2507 (isolation #619) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:49 pm

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If Lalight is not scum, then the only other team I can think of with Transcend is [Transcend, Ryker, Mulch]. The connections are there. You [Ryker] have done what I would expect scum ryker to do with his scum mates.
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Post Post #2508 (isolation #620) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:54 pm

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Even though I see connections from you [Ryker] that make me doubt you, I still think of Lalight's play TODAY and it's still suspicious. I was just thinking 'maybe it should be just a 1v1 between Ryker and Lalight tomorrow if we lynch scum today' but then I just keep thinking that Lalight is so suspicious even today and is riding on that claim.
He must die
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #621) » Wed May 31, 2017 3:58 pm

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Frozen, Gamma, Ryker, Titus. Talk to me. This is the direction I want to take.
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Post Post #2513 (isolation #622) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:26 pm

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Mulch I am well aware of that. That's my point. You did that so that it makes it seem more appealing, both of you possibly being scum and caught but not really, since I doubt Gamma is scum.
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Post Post #2514 (isolation #623) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:26 pm

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Mulch. Tell me, if you are town. Then make your case. What pro-town things have you done, and how do they line up with town motivation, and not scum motivation?
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #624) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:28 pm

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You being scum with Transcend means you both could have planned to do this. For you to force some 'anxiety' with Gamma being caught, which in turn helps him give a stance on you 'I am wary of Mulch for catching onto my guilty somehow' (not exact words, don't remember).
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Post Post #2518 (isolation #625) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:36 pm

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That is exactly what I'm talking about. You do that to seem like you don't know about Transcend's guilty, and act excited and push a Gamma Tammy FF team. I'm not saying you knew of the guilty already, I'm saying you know of the plan in private.
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Post Post #2519 (isolation #626) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:36 pm

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I want you to focus on my questioning to you. Show me what pro-town things you have done that line up with town motivation and not scum motivation.
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Post Post #2524 (isolation #627) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:45 pm

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Transcend do you have any crumbs from D1?
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Post Post #2525 (isolation #628) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:49 pm

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In a world that Gamma is scum I can see a [Gamma, Tammy, Lalight] team. I'm open to considering that. I don't think Frozen Flame is scum.
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #629) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:54 pm

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I want you to case Gamma, and town case yourself. Show me why I'm wrong on you.
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Post Post #2528 (isolation #630) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:55 pm

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What do you think of my Lalight reasoning?
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Post Post #2531 (isolation #631) » Wed May 31, 2017 4:57 pm

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The only thing that gives me hesitation is that you said Gamma would usually engage you, which makes sense. I'm not sure if he tried to sort you here.
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #632) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:05 pm

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I want to mention this: Tammy's replace out is NAI. Remember that I invited her, and she was over committed. So I can find her replacing out fair, and I don't think she would be the type to use it tactically.
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Post Post #2537 (isolation #633) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 2534, Mulch wrote:Ran I dont have time to do a full Iso showcase of me but let me ask you: do you ACTUALLY THINK TAMMY picked MARSHY , the one person coincidentally that died? Its mindblowing how you can believe that
I already told you my answer to that. We have Titus here, so I'll be able to read her slot. Low odds does not equal = absolute. If Gamma is scum, I'll agree that Tammy is scum along with him.
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #634) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:13 pm

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In post 2536, Mulch wrote: WHAT do scum have to gain for going for the win right now. Nothing. If Transcend is scum, WHAT is his motivation for doing this? I can't understand it
If we lynch wrong today, nk (barring some hidden protective)

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Post Post #2540 (isolation #635) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:13 pm

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In post 2538, Transcend wrote:i don't think tammy/titus are scum
who's your team with gamma
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Post Post #2543 (isolation #636) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:16 pm

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Transcend would you expect Gamma to try more as town?
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Post Post #2545 (isolation #637) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:18 pm

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I'm not for that. I want to influence a lynch today. [Chance I may die at night, if Lalight is scum] I'm willing to bank it on one of Transcend/Gamma today.
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #638) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:20 pm

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I'm asking about a slot you have a guilty on, but I don't trust. Plus, you have history with him and this is pivotal for my decision. So meet me half way here, eh?
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Post Post #2549 (isolation #639) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:25 pm

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You say you don't think Tammy is scum due to the replace out. I tell you it's NAI. what's your response to this?
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Post Post #2551 (isolation #640) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:26 pm

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Yeah bro I read your reasoning on Tammy and it's all about the replace out.
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #641) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:29 pm

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Think of it like this. If you are town, I want to make sure we square these reads away. Especially on Tammy. Don't get titted or anything. Just talk to me. (ok you answered but still letting you know, calm down dude) :wink:
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Post Post #2555 (isolation #642) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:30 pm

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In post 2552, Transcend wrote:i feel it woul be extremely despicable for her to leave on that note.
It's not. Sometimes life is priority. Her replace out doesn't invalidate her play.
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #643) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:37 pm

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I know that sometimes a replace out can seem tactical and I have called out replace outs for being so (and have seen scum doing that) yet, we can't know for sure, and we shouldn't let it taint our reads on that slot. We have plenty of content to read Tammy with if we ignore the replace out. I'm not going to factor the replace out.
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #644) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:40 pm

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This is the opposite of Mulch's argument that her targeting Marshy was such low odds that we should be pushing her harder since, probability but it is possible town just chose wrong. Your case is that you think she did so as town and replaced out. In Mulch's case, we can't verify if she was truthful in targeting marshy or not, and in your case, we can't verify if she replaced out tactically or not. What you should be looking at is her content, her stances, and her votes to see her motivation.
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Post Post #2562 (isolation #645) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:43 pm

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In post 2560, Transcend wrote:fine

but jsyk i'm likely not gonna vote for that slot
Alright. Can you tell me why you felt Tammy was scum originally? You asked if people wanted to see and I don't think you got a response.
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #646) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:49 pm

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I'm tired. Frozen and Ryker, get at me.
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Post Post #2564 (isolation #647) » Wed May 31, 2017 5:49 pm

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Good night.
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Post Post #2567 (isolation #648) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:18 pm

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I have considered you to be Mafia Role Cop.
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Post Post #2570 (isolation #649) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:49 pm

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You would fake claim early to seem town. Yet you have nothing to show for it. There is also such a thing as Informed Mafia Goon. (It knows the whole setup)
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #650) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:51 pm

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I agree Titus.
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Post Post #2575 (isolation #651) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:52 pm

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What is your thoughts on the setup?
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #652) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:53 pm

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In post 2573, Gamma Emerald wrote:Informed goon seems op
Informed traitor would be more logical
I would not expect there to be any other role alongside it. Check my wiki for "Mafia on the Run" for a setup using that role.
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #653) » Wed May 31, 2017 6:57 pm

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I would expect Titus to have a solid bead of me though. Transcend thoughts on her treatment of my slot?
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #654) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:01 pm

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Got it. I will keep that in mind.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #655) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:03 pm

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Alright bro. Can you tell me why you are leaning towards Transcend?
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #656) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:04 pm

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I'm not that sure on Frozen Flame being scum. I also want you to really talk to me about this. I don't want you and him fighting each other if you are both town.
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #657) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:07 pm

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I've never played with a scum Titus. :giggle: You must have me confused with someone else.
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Post Post #2592 (isolation #658) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:08 pm

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Which open are you asking about? Wondering who you may have confused me with.
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Post Post #2598 (isolation #659) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:17 pm

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Diamond is Unbreakable

Answer my question. Which open were you referring to?
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Post Post #2600 (isolation #660) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:19 pm

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In post 2594, Titus wrote: You're actually my biggest scumsuspect, so no.
Why?
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Post Post #2606 (isolation #661) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:23 pm

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That's our first time meeting. We have played on Mafia Universe. The last time I played with you was when I was scum in "The Thing Mafia." That's it. You were town there.
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #662) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:24 pm

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In post 2604, Titus wrote: His post seem salesmanny.
That sounds like him, but doesn't seem indicative of alignment to me.
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Post Post #2608 (isolation #663) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:25 pm

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It is interesting to note that Tammy has big problems with Ryker and so does Tammy. *rubs chin*
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Post Post #2611 (isolation #664) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:27 pm

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Lol derp. Yes.
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Post Post #2612 (isolation #665) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:28 pm

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Post Post #2616 (isolation #666) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:34 pm

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I see. Seeing that a neighbor has already flipped, I'm not sure there is room for two .5 investigatives. If I had to choose between Lalight and Transcend for scum, I'd choose Lalight.
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Post Post #2621 (isolation #667) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 pm

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In post 2615, Titus wrote: No. It's more that you come off like a used car salesman.
What does this mean? How does it relate to scum motivation over town motivation?
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #668) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:40 pm

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In post 2619, Ryker wrote: You think Lalight turns on Gamma IMMEDIATELY after the Transcend claim?
To distance, possibly. Also Gamma isn't really trying right now. I think Lalight knows what he is doing. Have you read the scum game he linked way earlier?
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Post Post #2630 (isolation #669) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:44 pm

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I think his scum play was good in that game. I think he knows how to abuse being a newbie. Reminds me a bit of Kary when he was starting.
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #670) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:47 pm

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I also want you to sell me on Frozen Flame, Ryker. I see that you POE him (iicr) but I want to know more of your thoughts of his play.
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #671) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:53 pm

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Although, if Frozen Flame is scum, I can see a team of [Gamma, Titus, Frozen Flame] and can understand why Titus is trying to undermine my slot. (Since Frozen Flame scum means Transcend + Lalight are town, which would force her to discredit my role, otherwise she'd have to deal with confirmed town roles and the only role she can try to discredit is my own, the other is dead)
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #672) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:55 pm

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I want to talk to Frozen Flame before lynching.
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #673) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:56 pm

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Let's chill guys. Let's focus.
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Post Post #2647 (isolation #674) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:58 pm

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We are in Mylo so we aren't voting.
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Post Post #2648 (isolation #675) » Wed May 31, 2017 7:58 pm

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Besides those two.
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Post Post #2649 (isolation #676) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:00 pm

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Ryker talk to me more about Frozen Flame. Anything else you'd like to talk about?
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #677) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:02 pm

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Titus are you trying to refrain from using meta in your recent games or is it just this one?
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Post Post #2652 (isolation #678) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:04 pm

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Alright, can you tell me why you think a scum!frozen would sheep my pushes early game? How about town!frozen?
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Post Post #2654 (isolation #679) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:06 pm

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So the town read on me in Lovers Mafia was not meta then?
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #680) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:13 pm

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Hmm, what do you think of Titus's claim that two .5 investigatives are fine?
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Post Post #2658 (isolation #681) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:15 pm

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In post 2656, Titus wrote: Why you shoot Agent Sparkles?
Top scumread, also counter wagon to Zulfy. Transcend hopped off awkwardly. So I needed to see him dead. Transcend also tried to use Agent Sparkles as scum flip to associate Fire Scream who was also town.
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #682) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:18 pm

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I'm trying to bounce things off you right now. No one was really dropping much scum tells until time passed. Your pushes were not any better.
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Post Post #2664 (isolation #683) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:21 pm

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No I just wanted to ask you about Frozen and others so I got what I wanted from you. Thanks bro.
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #684) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:23 pm

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I don't think we were discussing insane cops.
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Post Post #2667 (isolation #685) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:24 pm

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Gamma, what is your thoughts on recent events? Scum team?
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #686) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:25 pm

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omfg I now just got why Gamma said that...
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Post Post #2671 (isolation #687) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:28 pm

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I still want Gamma but wait... I need Ryker's vote... :(
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #688) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:39 pm

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Why the Bait, Titus?
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Post Post #2678 (isolation #689) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:43 pm

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Post Post #2685 (isolation #690) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:48 pm

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No policy lynches. We lynch suspects only. Policy lynches don't win you games.
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Post Post #2686 (isolation #691) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:49 pm

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In post 2682, Titus wrote:
Because Ryker made the kind of of shit we done goofed as scum post
I don't totally get it. Walk me through it?
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Post Post #2690 (isolation #692) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:50 pm

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In post 2680, Transcend wrote:opinions on 2673 plz
Probably if Gamma is scum. Possible town frustration. Not too sure.
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Post Post #2692 (isolation #693) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:52 pm

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I can see him and Gamma, slightly. D1 is a blur to me now. I just remember Gamma putting Agent Sparkles to L-1 and Ryker using that time to have a better opinion of Sparkles.
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #694) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:54 pm

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I tell you this because I don't want you having a reliance on policy lynches to deal with people you have a hard time with. It's not optimal.
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Post Post #2696 (isolation #695) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:58 pm

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I highly disagree. That's a meta that should stay hidden away. It doesn't do anything to progress games. :mad:
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Post Post #2697 (isolation #696) » Wed May 31, 2017 8:59 pm

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So looking at Penguin Power's last game, he had three town power roles, and two mafia power roles. Vigilante, Cop, Doctor. Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Roleblocker.
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Post Post #2700 (isolation #697) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:01 pm

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It seems this time around he simplified his setup a bit. Neighborizor flipped. So that's already one role flipped. My own role. Then there is Odd cop, Even Gunsmith, and Universal Back up. I still think two of the five are lying.
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Post Post #2701 (isolation #698) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:02 pm

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Transcend why didn't you crumb D1?
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Post Post #2702 (isolation #699) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:03 pm

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Hmmmmmmmmm
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Post Post #2703 (isolation #700) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:05 pm

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I think it's possible it's [1-shot vig, Neighborizer, odd cop / even gunsmith].
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Post Post #2704 (isolation #701) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:07 pm

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Meaning odd cop + even gunsmith since they add up to one. I'm just puzzled because no protective.
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Post Post #2706 (isolation #702) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:09 pm

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How do you feel about Titus's recent play?
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Post Post #2708 (isolation #703) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:10 pm

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She's still scum.
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #704) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:17 pm

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Yes. I guess I didn't really have to sort her near end game or anything, though. I've always played with town titus. Like I said, what's got me considering her is her trying to undermine my role. It's also Tammy claiming UB, and how I don't think it'd fit. I wouldn't lynch her today. I'm leaning towards Gamma. I think you are wrong though.
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Post Post #2711 (isolation #705) » Wed May 31, 2017 9:19 pm

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I need to go to sleep. I have work. I want to see what Frozen Flame says and we'll decide a lynch from there.
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Post Post #2720 (isolation #706) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:17 am

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At work. Approve of Gamma votes.
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Post Post #2730 (isolation #707) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:12 am

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To be fair Titus has said that as town to me before. I take it as null and I disagree with her.
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Post Post #2739 (isolation #708) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:00 am

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It is null Mulch.
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Post Post #2740 (isolation #709) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:02 am

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Focus. You know there is one scum between Gamma and Transcend. Come to your senses Mulch.
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Post Post #2748 (isolation #710) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:54 pm

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Mulch why aren't you responding to Frozen Flame?
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Post Post #2750 (isolation #711) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:06 pm

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Post Post #2754 (isolation #712) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:12 pm

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Dang it Mulch I was beginning to see Frozen Flame Scum...
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Post Post #2755 (isolation #713) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:13 pm

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Transcend (2): Gamma Emerald, Ryker, Titus
Gamma Emerald (1): Transcend, Frozen Flame, Lalight

Not voting (2): Ranmaru, Mulch
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Post Post #2756 (isolation #714) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:15 pm

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In post 204, FrozenFlame wrote:
In post 119, Ryker wrote:Why is it unnatural to ask a question in thread so that everyone can see the answer?

This is like the least Ryker question Ive ever read, I'm shocked you even bothered with this
Frozen Flame can you tell me why you brought this up? Why was it the least Ryker thing to see?
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Post Post #2757 (isolation #715) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:20 pm

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I think Titus is still scum. Lalight, I want you checking Titus/Frozen Flame tonight.
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Post Post #2760 (isolation #716) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:36 pm

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1. Seems simple to me, it's three votes on Transcend and three votes on Gamma. I'm too lazy to recreate the whole thing.
2. Probably. As long as you paraphrase. Don't use exact quotes or exactly what the mod said. (grounds for modkill)
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Post Post #2761 (isolation #717) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:40 pm

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Oh lol the (2) and the (1) should both be three. :)
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Post Post #2763 (isolation #718) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:41 pm

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Yeah. We basically are.
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Post Post #2765 (isolation #719) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:44 pm

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I think Gamma is scum and letting himself be lynched for him to be bussed. Who do you guys think is bussing him?
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #720) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:52 pm

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oh right...
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Post Post #2772 (isolation #721) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:54 pm

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Mulch, it's Gamma. I had doubts of Transcend's play but look. No Gamma.
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Post Post #2775 (isolation #722) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:56 pm

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I'll hammer Gamma after Mulch votes Gamma.
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Post Post #2777 (isolation #723) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:57 pm

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I agree Titus is scum here though.
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #724) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:02 pm

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Stop you will just make him more paranoid smh
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Post Post #2785 (isolation #725) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:04 pm

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I think you are letting your way of dealing with how people town read you taint your reads. I remember you saying how ballsy it was for Adumbrodeus to town read you, yet he was town. It's simple, town do little things that just make you doubt your read but you have to move past it and just push on the actual scum play.
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Post Post #2789 (isolation #726) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:06 pm

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Meaning, all you need to know is that Gamma is letting himself be lynched. If he were town he would be fighting because he knows it would cause us to lose the game. Then you see that Transcend and Gamma cannot be scum together.
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Post Post #2792 (isolation #727) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:07 pm

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In post 2787, Mulch wrote:No, Adumbro SCUM read me which is why I thought he was town (I think)
Lmao no. The words were TOWNIE AF. I remember!
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Post Post #2797 (isolation #728) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:09 pm

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In post 2791, Mulch wrote:It's just so WEIRD ran
Lol I get that from town reads sometimes too. Just got to learn how to move past it. Sometimes a player plays in such a way that you feel is really town, and then that player doubts you the whole game! (Soupamario) I have been in the position as transcend before, and vice versa.
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Post Post #2798 (isolation #729) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 2791, Mulch wrote:It's just so WEIRD ran
I want you to focus. Transcend is here, trying. Gamma, is not.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #730) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:11 pm

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Zero chance. I'm ready to hammer when you vote Gamma.
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Post Post #2801 (isolation #731) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:14 pm

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I also think your is pretty genuine. (If you are scum, I would say it was a good move, but I don't think you are scum here at this point)
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Post Post #2803 (isolation #732) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:15 pm

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VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #2804 (isolation #733) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:15 pm

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I don't think Ryker is scum. I would expect him to bus scum.
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Post Post #2807 (isolation #734) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:16 pm

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Lalight, target Titus/Frozen Flame. (Even though I think you might be mafia)
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #735) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:16 pm

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In post 2806, Mulch wrote:RAN
I'm town. So probably not. I hope Gamma is scum.
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Post Post #2811 (isolation #736) » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:17 pm

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If Gamma is town I am going to strangle him.
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Post Post #2816 (isolation #737) » Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:16 pm

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Go town! It was fun playing with everyone! Let's do it again sometime. :wink:
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Post Post #3155 (isolation #738) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:06 pm

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You are invited mulch!
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Post Post #3156 (isolation #739) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:06 pm

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Shout outs when I get home!
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Post Post #3160 (isolation #740) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:11 pm

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The bus was beint lead up to since D1. I know why now though. Kind of.
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #741) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:19 pm

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Everyone right shout outs and thoughts for the player list

thats how we do on smashboards mafia
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Post Post #3195 (isolation #742) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:56 pm

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Transcend

Good tactic/gambit and play. Your entrance was bleh but it got better and you tried. Nothing too scummy, you were able to use Gamma to convince me of you being town when you weren't.

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Hey Lalight. I disagree with you playing so scummy that you get attention towards you. It allowed scum to leave you alive and push for you D4 without any repercussion, even though me giving you suspicion also helped that which is also my bad. I'd rather you lay low and be null or null-town rather than just scummy. Frozen Flame yelled at me though and he disagrees I guess. Still, no reason for you to have a bad entrance as a PR. I also think that you should remain in thread a bit longer. Sometimes you say 'going to sleep' without saying good bye and asking 'hey i'm leaving anyone have any questions before I go?' You kind of plopped a vote on Titus and allowed scum to strike, you should at least have talked to others for thoughts before the day. Honestly you vote too willy nilly in these situations, you did the same thing in D3 bro. Have you ever been in lylo? Pretend you are conf town in lylo, would you want that happening? Anyway, it's cool, I hope you learn to be more cautious with voting in the future. I will give you that you had good night play, you targetted peeps that needed to be targetted. You are cool, sorry if I or others bothered you we kind of scum read you all game haha.

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I want you to try more in future games. I can understand you LAMISTING but that isn't enough. You obviously were not town enough since you were lynched and you seemed like scum just trying to lurk through. If you were more active and contributing more I'd be happy to work with you on your scumreads. Just asking 'anyone voting Lalight?' isn't enough bro. I'm sorry you felt down though, that happens and I hope you feel better next tme.

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I'm sorry I shot you mid-day while you had things to say. What sparked my decision was Lalight coming out, so I wanted to shoot scum to make up for that but I just fucked it up further. As I said in dead thread land, I think your only problem was your schedule. As long as you know to follow up with things then that should be good. I hope you are able to be more active in the future, I know you would be a great asset in the future and I would love to bounce reads with you. I'd prefer to be a VT or neighbor or something instead haha that vig power goes to my head. :P

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Zulfy I want more from you in your town game, straight up bro. It seems you were procrastinating due to school, and I can understand that. I have been through that, many people have been through that, but you were the D1 lynch because of that. I want you to put in more time into mafia if you can, and stop making ugly ass 1+ posts. Your 1+ thing is cool but please make it neat. Also, if you have school and time is tight, simply don't play (not being mean here, being realistic). I won't play a game if I don't have time. You need time to be able to play the game well. You were practically almost replaced but for some reason came back and still kind of lurked. I want you to improve on that in the future.

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I'm aware I fucked up the game with my shot. I'm open to hearing what I should have done with my role instead. First time vig. AMA

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Post Post #3196 (isolation #743) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:02 pm

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Frozen Flame

I would have liked to solve things with you more but generally towards the end I was reading you as town. I had no problems with you though, would want you to talk a bit more though. Be a little bit more active. I also wasn't able to really get a bead on you D1 since you were voting my vote. But I can get if you weren't sure who was scum, I wasn't either at that point.

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Yo, sorry if I frustrated you. I actually was really concerned with you because I was expecting you to be part of the crazy gambit shit as scum but I simply underestimated Transcend here. I've only seen your scum game once. I was making a guess Titus and you were scum together hahaha. Geez I was off. I am glad I was killed because I would have made worse decisions.

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Sup bro it was fun playing with you as well. Sorry to see you were a bit V/LA but yeah, I have no probs with your play I get it, cards to the chest thing and I respect it. I know you and Marshy are salty about my shot, sorry about that.

Titus

Thanks for replacing in. I know you don't read much upon replacing in anyway and I considered that risk, since we needed a replacement. Then I started to think you were scum, meh I dunno. Anyway it was fun playing with you.

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Lol you won this time! Lmao I guess you did the thing again but this time you didn't just replace in and make it seem all weird. Uh, you just were posting less you didn't even seem to care to find scum at that point. You were just joking around and not doing a thing lol.
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Post Post #3197 (isolation #744) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:05 pm

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Marshy

Fun playing with you bro. I see you what you mean with letting the thread breathe. I'll try the 24 hour thing but it's gonna be hard. Not sure I will try it in the large though. I will try it in some other game though. It's like maining a character in melee forever, I can't switch until I train up my other character enough.

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Good play. I had concerns but you made yourself townier. I'll compare that with your town game. Nothing to critique really, I had the least concerns with you. Also you and Transcend and Gamma posted along with me... which is probably why I should slow down for others. Hehe.
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Post Post #3199 (isolation #745) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:10 pm

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Tammy

I am glad you were able to sign up for the time that you did. I think replacing out was totally fine, life > mafia! It was funny to see you get neighbor though haha! I do hope we can play sometime soon, and let me know which championship game you are playing, I'll read it. :D
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Post Post #3200 (isolation #746) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:11 pm

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Penguin Power

Awesome game, awesome setup, awesome game picture

Thanks for hosting bro
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Post Post #3201 (isolation #747) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:11 pm

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Everyone is invited to the large we are planning, I want everyone to know that this was just a game, everyone is cool here :D
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Post Post #3205 (isolation #748) » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:28 pm

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still waiting on tips how to play day vig yo
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #749) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:55 pm

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I have realized that being in more than 2 games at a time really stretches my ability to play them close to optimally. I am spread out thin. Being in less games allows me to focus all of my energy into less directions.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #750) » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:55 pm

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Well, I mean I was spread out thin the last year. 3 games with 2 games that came after that. Luckily this time around I was only in 2.

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