Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

[Wisdom]

'm on the same page as Wisdom which gives me hope.

buddying detected

[Eurotrash]

busted

[Almost50]

Do you remember when you said this about Titus not too long ago?

I do, which is the game I'm reminding her of. However, my read here is not meta-based. I don't know Tails. It's a legit SR that would have been earned by just about anyone with the same content regardless.

[TheBrie]

@Almost I also want the case on Tails. Yes, he's been pishing a little hard and been misrepping, but I don't know I can what I've gotten from you so far.

[Almost50]

It's a universally known fact that my weakest spot IS presenting a case. I'm not an articulate player, and even when I do present a case TOWN (and I emphasize of TOWN) always volunteer to poke enough holes in them that scum don't actually need to defend themselves.

The way the majority of players have been playing of late doesn't even make me want to do the effort. I;m not going to burn myself to try and convince anyone of anything when I know I'm 80%-90% going to fail.

Maybe one thing though: Why is there such strong resistance to even vote Tails? I'm not talking about an actual lynch, but rather not enough support to bring him to L-3. Compare that to the ease I got to L-2 for practically nothing. Compare my play with Tails play thus far and try to decide how come both him and Paul found it so easy to add a 4th and a 5th vote on my wagon, but it's much harder to find a third vote to place on Tails.

[TheBrie]

I'm reading A50 as town here based on ISO from our previous game. As scum he's more into defending players, questioning players and poking holes in scum reads against town. I never saw him push like this.
I still don't like Dunker's vote on Tails, but i don't think the wagon is a bad one.
VOTE: Tails

[Almost50]

@Titus: I want your reads on Me and The Brie before I try to convince you of anything.

@TheBrie: THANK YOU.

[Almost50]

Actually,

@Wisdom: Your read on Dunkerdoodles would help too.

[Dunkerdoodles]

Looks like i'm being scum read for my sheep vote. I read A50 as town and i'm a guy that tends to sheep a lot. idk why, ik people think it's a scum tell, but i don't see anything wrong with trusting someone you read as town, and going along with their reasoning. I can always unvote, It's not like i'm confirming my vote on tails and he's the only person i'm willing to today. I think it was a fine early wagon so a voted him. There's my reasoning.

[Almost50]

Looks like i'm being scum read for my sheep vote. I read A50 as town and i'm a guy that tends to sheep a lot. idk why, ik people think it's a scum tell, but i don't see anything wrong with trusting someone you read as town, and going along with their reasoning. I can always unvote, It's not like i'm confirming my vote on tails and he's the only person i'm willing to today. I think it was a fine early wagon so a voted him. There's my reasoning.

FTR, I'm not SRing you myself.

[Tails]

Why Brie over dunker?

Brie was trying awfully hard to distance from Almost when everything she claims to know about him as a player should be causing her to vote him. She outright stated that Almost was not playing like he does as town, yet she refused to vote him. She then continues to be noncommittal while avoiding the wagon. Also look at her fencesit on me. She's actively avoiding controversial wagons.

I never said I knew anything about Almost's town play. I only know him as scum, and he is pretty good as scum. I couldn't pick him from his play, only from logic. So I have no idea what he is this time.

I must've misread. I thought you said something about his town play, which was why I didn't think that action tracked. I still don't like your overall reaction to the wagons, though.

[Tails]

Almost i think youre just omgusing

No.I.am.NOT. If I was, you know YOU should be my biggest OMGUS target, and you know why too. This is a genuine read, and everytime Tail posts I see new evidence he is indeed caught Scum. Why would I put my neck on the line if I wasn't 100% sure?

I've seen this 1v1 threat from scum so often now that I don't even blink at it. So yeah, not getting townpoints for this dude.

[Tails]

Hey, Titus, what's the odds that Generation X is scum here?

TBH, I would recommend the Seer checks that slot after we flip Tails a Werewolf.

This PR guiding is not a town trait.

[Tails]

Okay with a50 SR

a50 is town

Why?

[Tails]

Have you played with A50 before?

No.

[Tails]

Why is there such strong resistance to even vote Tails?

Because I'm town.

Compare that to the ease I got to L-2 for practically nothing.

Again, scum angry because caught for the wrong reason.

Compare my play with Tails play thus far and try to decide how come both him and Paul found it so easy to add a 4th and a 5th vote on my wagon, but it's much harder to find a third vote to place on Tails.

Why do the placement of votes on your wagon matter? If I remember, I was the first serious vote on the wagon. If I was just scum trying to join an easy wagon, wouldn't I have just done so earlier under the guise of RVS? Why wait until you actually ran your mouth about Hellfire (I admit wanting to know about his statement too, but I also mentioned that I could see a possible town reason for the statement.)? I outright said that it was mostly a gut thing that I was having a hard time putting into words at that moment? If you're town, why didn't you try to start up a line of dialogue to figure out what those reasons might be? For all intents and purposes, it looks like someone finally placed a serious vote on you, which contained actually weight, and you freaked the frak out.

[Tails]

Brie says she wants a Tails case before she votes with Almost. Almost doesn't give a case. Brie votes me because "she has a town read on Almost"?

Brie is not scum with Almost, but she's definitely buddying him.

[Wisdom]

Actually,

@Wisdom: Your read on Dunkerdoodles would help too.

Already done

[Wisdom]

Have you played with A50 before?

No.

Thats why

[Wisdom]

Youre scumreading a playstyle and expecting almost to fit a certain way of playing

People have different playstyles, look for motivations instead

[Wisdom]

dunker could be newbscum or newbtown, i dont mind him right now

leaning more on newbtown after his last post

[Tails]

Have you played with Almost, Wisdom?

[Wisdom]

yep

[Tails]

Is this the norm? Because there's a lot from this interaction that just doesn't sit right with me.

[Wisdom]

yes

hes town