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Post Post #13 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:52 pm

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VOTE: blanche


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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:07 pm

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This guy might as well work for the fuckin NSA
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Post Post #30 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:57 pm

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In post 18, Blanche wrote:zach is actually worrying me btw and i really hope im not underestimating him
In post 21, Blanche wrote:i thought zach would have a better attention to detail - especially when it came to us
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Post Post #32 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:07 pm

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post 18 makes me want to laugh, cry, die, etc


u were joking right
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Post Post #36 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:13 pm

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that's fine ;)





absolutely


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Post Post #38 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:17 pm

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might be the most vague sentence conceivable



UNVOTE:


















Now stop being mean
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Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:17 pm

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Dunn has woven several slanderous tales thereof pertaining to my character
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Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:21 pm

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Wym reactions no one said anything about that shit LMAO
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Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:22 pm

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The mechanic is something to take note of but I don't care to focus on it right now


You can if you want to
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Post Post #50 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 6, Blanche wrote:
In post 0, Aristophanes wrote:3. The Mafia will have an appointed "Godfather" to make their kills.
on a more serious note though kraska and i have been trying to figure out what the mechanical purpose of this is but we cant think of anything

the rolecop is obvious but??

this should come up later in the game


No one reacted to this itself though

Which is the post of all these posts which has the most to do with the game


I thought that's what "reactions"


Side note idk why you just came out firing out of the gate lol that was weird


You know people are going to RVS.


Blanche wrote:if you're referring to zach, yes

There there



You won't be able to help townreading me no matter my align tbh no flex
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Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:45 pm

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Those are like really loose reactions.



I don't think they're the ones you look for if you actually care about the topic tbh

Like you should be steam emoji ing at that, not me..

In post 51, Blanche wrote:
and rvs is boring :evil: - the game's gotta go 0 to 100 you know thats how you catch scum off balance
How are you catching anyone off balance exactly? Scum not coming into day one without hitting their PT

If I happened to be in that pt and u weren't there I'd probably say something like look at Blanche trying LOL


... you must know when to retreat in war




There's literally 0 plans that exist that start with voting me


Why would u do that
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Post Post #62 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:55 pm

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Giga you have no reason to be worried about me tho is why I'm worried about you.



I possess all the mystical stratagems to finesse ur life away :lol: :lol: why would you be a threat to me as scum?



If you don't believe that then believe I have a weak scum game and a weird town game ;)


I'm literally fine with either of those options. Can we do real stuff now?
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Post Post #66 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:00 pm

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VOTE: shaddowez
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Post Post #73 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:08 pm

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In post 67, Blanche wrote:interesting vote

why the same person as vedith?

Why not? I have two completed with shaddowez and called as scum both times


Let's see if he pings me



Not that it's super solid but it's a useful vote as any rn.


Also FWIW there's something off about your aura. Don't worry I'll be able to clear it up later
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Post Post #83 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:20 pm

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Nos we out of RVS bro validate your position


I will terminate your strange default scumminess with extreme prejudice

Carcalilly wrote:who wants to talk about the fact that there's a single role that the victory of town depends on?
What do you want to talk about? All of us may have seen this at sign up
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Post Post #113 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:47 pm

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In post 96, Lycanfire wrote:carcalilly is town
Okay, I just need you to defend this.
In post 84, Carcalilly wrote:Anyway, this is Mountainish (no roles???) with an end-all town role and a mafia rolecop?????
? Were you assuming, knowing that this was a closed setup, that since it appeared scumsided it was definitely completely scumsided and town was set up to lose? Just wondering. It doesn't make sense.

In post 87, Carcalilly wrote:IDK I'm questioning the balance and the actual setup. It's closed so all we can do is speculate
Definitely an implication of closed setups... yes.
In post 89, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 85, Blanche wrote:then let's fight :mad:

the mafia mechanic discussion is at least more pro-town if you really want to go the setup spec discussion because scum probably have insight to what it means while town doesnt

all we know is that we cant let the mysterious role die and thats all we really
should
know (unless you know what that role is??)

so why not discuss the godfather mechanic instead?
Oh yeah but how do we do that exactly? Doctors? No, it's mountainish? Claim before lynch? Now the mafia will get them.

Godfather mechanic is a lot less interesting Imo. :')

Again, are you assuming town has nothing to combat scum advantage? In what way is that logical?


And if you're assuming otherwise, what benefit does discussing it like this have? At all?


Please help me clarify BC scummy
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Post Post #118 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:57 pm

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In a setup where we're already weak, PoEing town's potential utilities and highlighting the one weakness we all know as a discussion point on mechanics is really... out there, to say the least.


VOTE: Carcalilly



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Post Post #139 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:04 am

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In post 127, Blanche wrote:me too :up:

lycan, gd, and dunn are town

nos and zach maybe

carcalilly and vedith are ok lynches from ppl whove posted but i do want to set a baseline for what's null in this table first
Im waiting for the game Dunn pockets your life away



how you have nos at the same level as me? LMAOO


But facts tho Carca is scum but giga was acting weird at gamestart. Would you like to explain this behavior kraska

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In post 130, Dunnstral wrote:
Also, lol, I'll be watching you this game.
your vigilance is unnecessary
you had me nailed in like page 5 and then forgot
just dont forget this time

U pocketed tf out me cause you played townier than our town confs LMAO
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Post Post #146 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:51 am

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In post 140, GinghamDog wrote: VOTE: Carcalilly
Several people have discussed setup spec so far, which I don't have an issue with, but the way Carcalilly worded it pinged me.
Can you elaborate on the last part specifically?
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Post Post #155 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:10 am

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Aye I might just make a bloc with Vedith. This game is going to be fun to read.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:22 am

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do you want me to tell you what's wrong giga because I will
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Post Post #176 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:03 am

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Well let me preface this by saying kraska and giga have never scumposted to me before so my POV is definitely unique considering how scummy they are this game IMO

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In post 6, Blanche wrote:
In post 0, Aristophanes wrote:3. The Mafia will have an appointed "Godfather" to make their kills.
on a more serious note though kraska and i have been trying to figure out what the mechanical purpose of this is but we cant think of anything

the rolecop is obvious but??

this should come up later in the game
This is the first post you make. We discuss this point later but you come blasting out of the gate with mechanic discussion and your play that follows is "Hey. WHY ARE YOU RVSING IN RVS? I'M NOT RVSING! IN RVS!"
In post 8, Blanche wrote:
In post 7, Vedith wrote:VOTE: shaddowez
no thoughts on the above?
In post 17, Blanche wrote:Image

VOTE: zach


This was a joke to me - from your later posts we see that it apparently isn't
In post 18, Blanche wrote:zach is actually worrying me btw and i really hope im not underestimating him
This was a joke to me - from your later posts we see that it apparently isn't

So my response to this initially is what the fuck are you talking about? Was the impression that you can read me? Are you underestimating my scumplay or my townplay? Where is the logical basis to actually hold this off of one RVS vote?



both of these are in response to a fucking obvious RVS vote LMFAO
In post 21, Blanche wrote:i thought zach would have a better attention to detail - especially when it came to us
let me not specify and try to guilt trip zach for not knowing things that he doesn't know? LOL

I said everything I had to say about godfather discussion as we went into this conversation
In post 31, Blanche wrote:thats fine zach

just vote vedith or anyone who isnt lycan or me and you can be town too :up:
Yeah, don't do this town leader bullshit with me, I don't follow it from anyone

I know you kinda play like you're obvtown but I never usually take issue with that because I usually tr you.

If your behavior is scummy to me I'm going to seek clarification and possibly vote you. If in lieu of substantive responses(which I need to sort) you act like you're obv town and I'm just the one that doesn't know it, I'm going to lynch you.

In post 37, Blanche wrote:wow dunn really is right about you zach
In post 40, Blanche wrote:zach, what are your thoughts on the mechanic i pointed out earlier?

and the reactions that followed, too.
Zachstralkita wrote:Dunn has woven several slanderous tales thereof pertaining to my character
i mean

kraska put in a good word for you but
i like to focus what's going on in the now you know
Literally zero clue what this even means. Was bolded referring to my "super scummy" RVS vote on you?

Also look at the top of this post : "The REACTIONS that followed later"

We'll get to that
In post 49, Blanche wrote:if you're referring to zach, yes

if you're referring to you, no
This is the post that indicates you having me scumread for a "night 0 guilty peek" in RVS is not a joke. It's uh.. wonderful really
In post 51, Blanche wrote:
In post 50, Zachstralkita wrote:No one reacted to this itself though

Which is the post of all these posts which has the most to do with the game


I thought that's what "reactions"


Side note idk why you just came out firing out of the gate lol that was weird


You know people are going to RVS.
i think dunn at least acknowledged it - as he should

vedith completely ignored it until i pressed him on it and gave a bad reaction (though it's actually a reaction i can see him giving as town so i'm going to hold off on voting there - feel free to sheep him but i'm putting my vote elsewhere)

gingham i guess i'm highlighting more for my general shenanigans but i think there's stuff to talk about there

and rvs is boring :evil: - the game's gotta go 0 to 100 you know thats how you catch scum off balance
I respond to this below
In post 55, Blanche wrote:
In post 54, Zachstralkita wrote:How are you catching anyone off balance exactly? Scum not coming into day one without hitting their PT
you'd be surprised actually

i know exactly what i'm doing
In post 55, Blanche wrote:
In post 54, Zachstralkita wrote:How are you catching anyone off balance exactly? Scum not coming into day one without hitting their PT
you'd be surprised actually

i know exactly what i'm doing
Great, you're way more skilled than me. You didn't explain anything though so your reply to the question means jack shit in terms of my question being answered and you are trying to maintain that it does?
In post 55, Blanche wrote:
and wait now you're starting to confuse me - i agree that no one besides vedith (and you) has like directly talked to me about the mechanics post but what should i be steam emoji'ing at?

like this is why "i'm worried about you" is exactly how i should feel about you right now
I should have answered this then. I don't want to do all these fucking quotes but the gist of it is you posed mechanics discussion in post 6 RVS right out of the gate.

And then
In post 44, Blanche wrote:
In post 8, Blanche wrote:
In post 7, Vedith wrote:VOTE: shaddowez
no thoughts on the above?
In post 20, GinghamDog wrote:@blanche, if you're town why would zach's post strike you as anything more than a page one joke?
i guess maybe i'm being a bit less general than i should but theres already been some interesting stuff going on here on page 2






all thanks to me :)
The "interesting stuff" that you maintain your discussion generated is nothing at all. At the time, I was the only person who actually talked about the godfather mechanic or seriously acknowledeged it in any fashion. Everything else can't be chalked up to a reaction to your discussion. If you cared so much about pushing the game from 0-1000 as you stated earlier you would be upset no one's discussing the fucking mechanic, and not at me for RVS voting you. Instead you spend the first few pages with a vote on me and a few offhanded comments elsewhere for a reason I don't fully know...

In post 58, Blanche wrote:nah






we can revisit you later :(

VOTE: zach
Again reinforcing a scumread that I'm assuming was never a joke. Where then is the basis for it - even if the read changed
In post 60, Blanche wrote:i'm not sure how i feel about him just yet

i'll feel him out soon enough.
No you won't? What are you going to feel out LOL it's clear the read was off to a rough start already
In post 158, Blanche wrote:
In post 155, Zachstralkita wrote:Aye I might just make a bloc with Vedith.
is this one of those things were you gambit like that roman guy and make blocs with scum
Vedith isn't really scum though at all
In post 163, Blanche wrote:
In post 27, Lycanfire wrote:VOTE: Vedith

vedith will not be town here. discuss while the inevitable lynch goes through.
remember this folks
Lycan's post doesn't mean anything. case Vedithscum

Carcalilly wrote:
Spoiler: 113
In post 113, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 96, Lycanfire wrote:carcalilly is town
Okay, I just need you to defend this.
In post 84, Carcalilly wrote:Anyway, this is Mountainish (no roles???) with an end-all town role and a mafia rolecop?????
? Were you assuming, knowing that this was a closed setup, that since it appeared scumsided it was definitely completely scumsided and town was set up to lose? Just wondering. It doesn't make sense.

In post 87, Carcalilly wrote:IDK I'm questioning the balance and the actual setup. It's closed so all we can do is speculate
Definitely an implication of closed setups... yes.
In post 89, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 85, Blanche wrote:then let's fight :mad:

the mafia mechanic discussion is at least more pro-town if you really want to go the setup spec discussion because scum probably have insight to what it means while town doesnt

all we know is that we cant let the mysterious role die and thats all we really
should
know (unless you know what that role is??)

so why not discuss the godfather mechanic instead?
Oh yeah but how do we do that exactly? Doctors? No, it's mountainish? Claim before lynch? Now the mafia will get them.

Godfather mechanic is a lot less interesting Imo. :')

Again, are you assuming town has nothing to combat scum advantage? In what way is that logical?


And if you're assuming otherwise, what benefit does discussing it like this have? At all?


Please help me clarify BC scummy


Well one, I was confused because there are technically roles in a no-role mechanic. I'm pretty sure mountainish means all VT and goons but apparently not here.

So if town does actually have other PRs then it's not mountainish and Ari lied to us all.

OK so look at out confirmed information:
-Mafia has a ROLECOP
-Town has an END-ALL role
-The game is titled "mountainish"

So during the night, mafia can probably rolecop one player, then kill another. That's clearing out two. If that's all there really is then in must be easy for them to find that role.

Also, the benefits have already taken action. :]

Power roles are not the only thing that can influence the game in town's favor.. that's why you're so scummy


in case its not evident im looking at Carca and Blanche here
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Post Post #177 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:12 am

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In post 174, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 118, Zachstralkita wrote:In a setup where we're already weak, PoEing town's potential utilities and highlighting the one weakness we all know as a discussion point on mechanics is really... out there, to say the least.


VOTE: Carcalilly



Y not
Out there is how to play m9
Your comments on the rest of the game state are very minimal
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Post Post #180 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:30 am

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In post 179, Blanche wrote:zach the main issue i take with your scumread of me is that a significant part of it hinges on me scumreading you for your rvs post which isn't the case
Okay so what would I have "worried" you for at that point in time



cause it was genuine when it happened

The part of my argument where I talk about your response to the "reactions" does not rely on this, though.








Blanche wrote:and if you keep doing things like insinuating i'm scum and
"players cannot have a scumread on me or they will be scummy"

I think you know what my problem is with this one

Blanche wrote:townbloccing with vedith then i will continue to worry about you
It's fine if you scumread him but I can bloc with anyone. I'll be able to townread him correctly too if necessary.





Carca scummier anyway btw so you don't need to act like you're a huge SR for me when realistically, I'm not going to have a concrete reads list early game when people have barely played.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:31 am

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Dunn doesn't really get it..
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Post Post #196 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:58 am

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Dunnstral wrote:
In post 184, Blanche wrote:
In post 182, Vijarada wrote:
In post 143, Blanche wrote:also vij probtown
I'very told u before that I intentionally use lmao a lot and no caps to coast on garbage town reads like this one. Do better.
this ^ is probably scum. i have yet to see town scoff off early townreads on them... this is scummy self-consciousness
-kraska

Oh no

Is blanche scum

LMFAO



In post 185, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 64, Carcalilly wrote:VOTE: Dwlee

you don't know who I am but I know who you are
That is a bit freaky.

On subject, I don't think carcalilly talking about the setup is a scumtell like people seemed to have reacted to it as.

No one is taking issue with her talking about the setup though it's the specific way she did it..

"What does town have to combat scum" = "What information can we give away"


Carcalilly wrote:
UNVOTE: Dwlee
Zachstralkita wrote: Carca scummier anyway
I'm scummier than scum.
this doesn't help lol


What are your scumreads looking like?








@Blanche okay guess I won't night dayvig you haha which is impossible in this setup! haha!
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Post Post #197 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:58 am

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144 Vedith town imo
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Post Post #199 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:02 am

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Wait did you refer to us as motherfucking sock puppets?


We don't have to take this behavior Dunn,
we can seize the memes of production and eliminate Blanche
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Post Post #209 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:49 am

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I'm at a genuine loss right now
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Post Post #214 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:53 pm

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Carcalilly, what are your opinions on being scum
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Post Post #218 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:52 pm

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Post Post #227 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:00 am

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Vedith can you provide some analysis on the game please. vedith vs blanche is going to be annoying if you're both town





Also GD is scummy. I'd probably vote there if not Carca

or Dwee lee
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In post 151, Vedith wrote: Carca is an awkward player. She says stupid shit that makes her look like scum, or makes her an easy push.
I'll decide further in the game if it's scum motivated.
Maybe elaborate on this one with some context for this game?

We're scumreading Carcalilly for a specific reason and you're defending her for a general one. It's sort of odd that you ignored the whole discussion.
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In post 227, Zachstralkita wrote:Vedith can you provide some analysis on the game please. vedith vs blanche is going to be annoying if you're both town
Yeah, too many people trying to work out spec and it's not helpful.

blanche is just spamming the game and posting shit which is stopping the game moving forward.

I think / / are all fake.

Nos has the right attitude and is most likely town.

Dwlee / Shadow need to do better.

And the rest I don't want to comment on.

If it's going to be annoying with me and Gigga, why not lynch Gigga?
why lynch Blanche when they're going to town tone post and make me feel bad about lynching them. We have actual scummy players


Like if they try some fuck shit I am immediately ready to terminate them but I don't see a need to rn. They're generating discussion

Plus we have to wait for Dunn




I'm still at a loss btw
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Post Post #231 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:12 am

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Bro the spec play is important in the setup though cause the game can be lost day one
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Post Post #234 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:22 am

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In post 232, Vedith wrote:
In post 231, Zachstralkita wrote:Bro the spec play is important in the setup though cause the game can be lost day one
So you think Gigga prevented us losing day 1 or what?
No... I think you're being obtuse to what I'm saying, intentional or not. To what end I don't know so I'm trying to find out


I've been townreading you, I don't care if you think I'm scum but that shit you're doing right now is scummy.. end of


pedit um... ok...
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Post Post #237 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:31 am

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In post 234, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 232, Vedith wrote:
In post 231, Zachstralkita wrote:Bro the spec play is important in the setup though cause the game can be lost day one
So you think Gigga prevented us losing day 1 or what?
I think you're being obtuse to what I'm saying, intentional or not.
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Oh now I'm scummy because I think Gigga is scum?
THESE ARE EVIDENTLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.


Stop being a scumfuck and assuming we all want to kill you. If you want something clarified prompt discussion



Otherwise continuing to play like that is literally a scum claim
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Post Post #247 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:12 am

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Spoiler:
In post 242, Blanche wrote:


And Zach, do I really have to get another almond milk for myself? I really thought we were having a heart to heart here.

Ima low key get upset if you have to worry about me (for disagreeing on reads - I don't think this is the case)

If otherwise you don't have to worry about me overthrowing you, I'd like an almond milk too actually

As for that:



In post 20, GinghamDog wrote:@blanche, if you're town why would zach's post strike you as anything more than a page one joke?

Uh. This obv, town,, yeah... more the obvious part. Obvious town is a stretch... this is really surface level to call obvtown, giga. It confuses me a lot for you to suggest this..
In post 22, GinghamDog wrote:I don't really understand that reply. What detail?
This is just a question. Is it obv town to you?

I'm confused.

In post 140, GinghamDog wrote:Super early reads:

Townish:
Blanche
Nosferatu
Lycanfire
Dunnstral
Zachstralkita

Scummish:
Carcalilly
Vedith

Everyone else is either null or hasn't posted.


VOTE: Carcalilly
Several people have discussed setup spec so far, which I don't have an issue with, but the way Carcalilly worded it pinged me.
You townread her for her reads list because they're good... that just means they're the same ones that you have.. Reads list is probably NAI but the hop on vote here is vague and really leaves a lot to desire. I do question this post
In post 146, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 140, GinghamDog wrote: VOTE: Carcalilly
Several people have discussed setup spec so far, which I don't have an issue with, but the way Carcalilly worded it pinged me.
Can you elaborate on the last part specifically?
No response.. I don't really mind. Scummy though

In post 187, GinghamDog wrote:UNVOTE: Carcalilly
172 reads townish to me, and the last few posts do make her look like an easy push
I don't like this unvote. After this post I say why post 172 was scummy but it should be apparent that Carca addressed something different to what my point was in our interaction.


Players who are lynchbaity always look like easy pushes but we have to discern whether or not the scummy play comes from scum. I just want to know to what degree is it being done here.

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In post 237, Zachstralkita wrote:Otherwise continuing to play like that is literally a scum claim
oooh now I'm scum claiming?
Because Vedith didn't let you pocket him, he's scum claiming.
\o/

There's no reason you should be pushing for me and Gigga to be TvT.
Continually misrepping the fuck out of me is pretty scummy play, congrats. By the way, why would I desire to pocket a player most people scumread? What utility does that serve to scum? If I recall Im the only one that expressed a townread on you in this game.

What you're doing is really scummy and it doesn't look like you're trying to identify the source of any confusion on my statements it just looks like you want to call me scum with misrepping my argument.

Like it's evident from my posts and yours that you're responding to an argument that isn't mine and playing dumb.

I lost my last two games cause of town that played like scum and scum that played like dumbtown so... you can cooperate with the town or get lynched imo.

Oh you were in that one so you know. You're not gonna bluff here and succeed...
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Post Post #248 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:15 am

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If you need me to expressly outline how Vedith's replies to me are questionable at the very least then I will expend effort to do so. Just ask. But I'm definitely not reaching to justify a scumread there.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:32 am

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@Vedith when I get to laptop I got u



@blanche How can I put this....


one time a long long time ago in an epic mafia scum game I won for pointing out a reaction test at game start

I got townread for it for some reason


That's neither here nor there. Post 20 is that kind of statement. It can't be considered that townie because it's so obvious. if newbtown does that I can perfectly see newbscum doing it too


The reads themselves weren't NaI, the act of having a reads list is.

I was saying like scum will appeal to players who read players based on the reads they have to gain towncred from them.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:09 am

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Dunnstral
- I'm assuming town.

Blanche, Vijarada
- Town.

Nosferatu, shaddowez, Lycanfire
- Null. Lycan is lean town and shaddow is lean scum

Vedith, Dwlee, Carca, GD
- Scum reads for now.


DisplayName, Kinetic - no read. lurkers.

Can't do anything with this shit without a flip tbh

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Anyway when I get back I wanna ISO and tunnel Zach because they confuse me. :neutral:
Hey... why is the tunnel part in there
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Post Post #263 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:15 am

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Carcalilly wrote: legitimately, Idgaf if I look scummy, because I know that all I do is state my opinions and everything on my mind when most relevant. Some of it arguably be useless but, what's the hurt of barfing up all the content you can before you die? Also I'd rather be lynched than NKed because you can at least do a VCA and stuff so I guess that's a random advantage.
I want to be the person to speak out with out-there stuff to start conversation. Y'all are too scared to be scumread from it. I don't care if you scumread me or even lynch me, at least I know I did something in the game to help the townwincon.
But when I say "out there" I don't mean strange I mean it was scummy... you're not being targeted because of how radical your ideas are LOL


also the fact that we have two lurk fuck slots makes it less likely that you're scum but it's still a possibility
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Post Post #264 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:16 am

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Why did Dunn even claim man. I wanna commit to sudoku
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Post Post #265 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:17 am

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I mean I have faith in Dunns level 90 town gambits don't get me wrong..
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Post Post #267 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:32 am

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You're gonna make me commit the to scrabble instead :up:
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Post Post #268 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:43 am

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Vedith wrote:
In post 264, Zachstralkita wrote:Why did Dunn even claim man. I wanna commit to sudoku
Fake response :giggle:
Why did you ask for rainbow reads? Are you going to at least pretend to have evaluated something?

In post 249, Vedith wrote:So if you're the only person to have had a town read while others had a Scum read, are you white knighting me?
Because that's what Scum you has done in the past, correct me if I'm wrong ;)

Let's go! Let's go!
Zach is getting worried because Gigga is today's lynch!
I didnt even read this lol


Well Vedith if you're familiar with my town play you would know I'm not WKing you

That scum game you're referring to was nearly a year ago, do with that what you will
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Post Post #283 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:52 pm

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Dunn aint analyze shit he just flicking through his avi catalog LMAO
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Post Post #289 (isolation #46) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:59 am

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VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #291 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:24 am

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Vedith's argument revolves around me being scum with giga(Blanche) and panicking they're getting lynched but he conveniently forgets to mention at one point I thought Blanche was the scummiest player in the game and pushed them. It's absolutely nonsensical. Blink at him and he calls you scum. Try to question him and he misreps you... blatantly obstructive bullshit.





I saw him as an obvious ML last game when he was and I'm not getting those vibes at all. I can spot MLs but Vedith in particular's play doesn't feel genuine and he hasn't actuallly attempted to like be productive... at all.



After the Mulch Incident my position is there is no "too scum to be scum"

.
How people townread there is beyond me.
Vedith wrote:
In post 268, Zachstralkita wrote:Why did you ask for rainbow reads? Are you going to at least pretend to have evaluated something?
Well neither of you gave me rainbow reads for a start.

And since you and Gigga are jerking each other off on calling yourselves town to one another, I don't think any other town reads will be scum. :up:

That makes Vijarada town, that makes Nos town, that makes GD town, that makes Lycan town.

Shaddow being lean scum for you both makes him scum too.

Easy game, easy money.

I'm pretty sure your scum game is composed of a lot of bullshit and false confidence.

I already said I literally was the only person in this game who scumread Blanche besides you.

Your positions you've held this game are utterly stupid as fuck:


1. I'm trying to derail a Blanche lynch (Who the fuck is going to lynch blanche?)

2. I'm scum with Blanche (I literally cased them more than you.)

3. I'm scum who tried to pocket you and "failed" (You literally ATTRACT ROPE. What use would you even serve me. Theoretically I'd pocket Blanche in this game and they already TR me like I said they would on like page 4)


In post 144, Vedith wrote:
In post 142, Blanche wrote:yes, vedith, i mean this

just felt weird that there was open setup discussion and you completely sidestepped it. nos doing it too is there i guess but once one person ignores it it sets the tone for the rest so it's not as off.
Then you're stupid, Gigga.
I have no interest in in talking about what roles Scum can have in my first post.
What do you think you gained from it?

GTFO

And why should I vote Carca with You?
In post 228, Vedith wrote:
In post 227, Zachstralkita wrote:Vedith can you provide some analysis on the game please. vedith vs blanche is going to be annoying if you're both town
Yeah, too many people trying to work out spec and it's not helpful.

blanche is just spamming the game and posting shit which is stopping the game moving forward.


I think / / are all fake.

Nos has the right attitude and is most likely town.

Dwlee / Shadow need to do better.

And the rest I don't want to comment on.

If it's going to be annoying with me and Gigga, why not lynch Gigga?
This post here isn't even saying anything. Look at the bold. It doesn't apply because we're talking about a specific scum mechanic and you dismiss it as "setup spec" as a whole which is disingenuous as fuck. In the first quote you are adamant about shooting down the discussion for no reason.

Blanche and I have too much posts probably but they're not just shitposting and neither am I which is clear to see. What is Vedith doing exactly?


@Vijarada are you saying Vedith is townier than GD
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Post Post #294 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:22 am

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Well, giga was scumreading Vedith on page 1 or 2 about.

And Dwelee900 is acting suspicious. I don't like preflip tho.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #49) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:48 am

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In post 303, Lycanfire wrote:picking up my prod

lycanalysis never happened. spent most of yesterday trying to forget this game existed in case it picked up so i could work without bias of further information. that didn't really happen beyond a vedith wagon forming.

which i don't like. sorry rosa, i have no idea what made you think i was following you with a read on vedith and i only kept my vote there to see how far you would go with your awful behavior. UNVOTE: i was being purposely inflammatory in and stopped enabling Carcalilly's bad behavior while seeing how far Blanche/GD wanted to go with their lynchpool.

i anticipated a faster game and created a different way to look at games so i wouldn't fall into the get-behind-be-useless pit. mainly looking at blanche/GD for trying to create the vedith|carcalilly paradigm. there's been some shitty trends so far in this game-and i want to look at them all because i think i can safely pull scum from it. if nothing else i want to see if it works.

maybe tonight(?? if i get a second wind and can't sleep). i've been very bitter for the past week with work and ended up sleeping for my entire day off which only pisses me off more (because i knew that would happen)

i do want to know where Zach fits in with relation to Blanche/GD because it seems like he's on the cusp of aligning with their reads, but rather proudly shouts divisive scumreads at both of them, despite aligning quite well (Carcalilly, later on, Vedith). VOTE: Zach I need to know how you went from your reads at to chiefly your reads on both Blanche and Vedith.

Is this the lycanalysis? Anyways.
In post 303, Lycanfire wrote: i do want to know where Zach fits in with relation to Blanche/GD because it seems like he's on the cusp of aligning with their reads, but rather proudly shouts divisive scumreads at both of them, despite aligning quite well (Carcalilly, later on, Vedith). VOTE: Zach I need to know how you went from your reads at to chiefly your reads on both Blanche and Vedith.
1) It's most likely I looked at things the wrong way and scumread Blanche for the wrong reasons. Otherwise they were playing really scummy for no reason and I don't think that's a remotely intelligent conclusion to arrive at so I don't SR them anymore at least today. They've been towny too.


2) I can scumread someone even if we share reads. If the person is scum then the "reads" are fabricated.

3) All things considered, Vedith is obvscumming here and I have no clue why you unvoted him. You can swap his scumread of me for someone else's name and the conclusion does not change. Do I have to go in depth?

Spoiler:
In post 230, Vedith wrote:
In post 229, Zachstralkita wrote:Maybe elaborate on this one with some context for this game?

We're scumreading Carcalilly for a specific reason and you're defending her for a general one. It's sort of odd that you ignored the whole discussion.
I'm not claiming Carca as town at all for the record, let me just throw that out there.
I'm not seeing anything town from her.
But my point stands in general. I suspect that if town, scum will use her as an easy lynch.
If she flips town I'm pushing weak votes on her.
In post 229, Zachstralkita wrote:why lynch Blanche when they're going to town tone post and make me feel bad about lynching them. We have actual scummy players


Like if they try some fuck shit I am immediately ready to terminate them but I don't see a need to rn. They're generating discussion

Plus we have to wait for Dunn
Gigga is anti town regardless.
Lets make a better tomorrow, today!

Lynch Gigga! :up:

And the only discussion they are generating is "Vedith scum" with stupid reasons and about spec play.
This isn't the most constructive answer and his "spec play" argument is dumb (I address it in another thing if you read my other case)
In post 232, Vedith wrote:
In post 231, Zachstralkita wrote:Bro the spec play is important in the setup though cause the game can be lost day one
So you think Gigga prevented us losing day 1 or what?
Reason this pinged me so hard is because it's like he misrepped me on purpose. Vedith's stance is blanche is fluffing with "spec discussion" but it's not fluff because this is actually important to the game for reasons most of us seem to be aware of.

His response to "the spec play is important because the game can be lost day one" is disingenuous as fuck for this reason. Above is the clear implication he should have taken from my statement. Instead he portrays my argument as an entirely different one for no reason. He's not stupid.
In post 236, Vedith wrote:
In post 234, Zachstralkita wrote:No... I think you're being obtuse to what I'm saying, intentional or not. To what end I don't know so I'm trying to find out


I've been townreading you, I don't care if you think I'm scum but that shit you're doing right now is scummy.. end of
Oh now I'm scummy because I think Gigga is scum?


Lynch Gigga then lynch Zach.

Easy game easy money. :up:
The bolded is nothing close to anything I have ever said in this game and I'm pretty sure he knew that when he wrote it.

He calls me scum with giga to either scare me away from a push on him, or he just thinks if he derps hard enough we're going to think it's his towngame. That's what I got from it.


In post 238, Vedith wrote:
In post 237, Zachstralkita wrote:Otherwise continuing to play like that is literally a scum claim
oooh now I'm scum claiming?
Because Vedith didn't let you pocket him, he's scum claiming.
\o/

There's no reason you should be pushing for me and Gigga to be TvT.
This whole post is dumb. Doubles down on his new found position in true Vedith manner but doesn't support it, and his statements on my position is a clear misrep. I already said at least twice this game why me wanting to "pocket" Vedith makes no sense. And ffs when you pocket someone you don't obv scum to them. How shitty is my scum game to you, Vedith?
In post 249, Vedith wrote:So if you're the only person to have had a town read while others had a Scum read, are you white knighting me?
Because that's what Scum you has done in the past, correct me if I'm wrong ;)

Let's go! Let's go!
Zach is getting worried because Gigga is today's lynch!
more dumb Vedith posting. Read 247 in my ISO for more, but Vedith is acting like:

1) A year old scum game and my first one on the site is a reliable meta. We won but I played horribly obvious with lots of fluff and shitposting but we won because that's what was expected from me and I think I do a decent job of bullshitting.

2) He can meta read me. Lol you have like 3-4 games with me, one of them is this one, and I'm pretty sure you don't know how to read me at all
In post 251, Vedith wrote:I want a rainbow reads list from you in your next post Zach and Gigga.
:up:
(read my 268 and 291)

he asks me for rainbow reads then doesn't give the impression he's tried to sort our slots off of the reads again. then he's like "well you didn't give rainbow reads in the first place"

I don't really do reads lists by default and you never asked earlier in the game. I thought you like, knew how I played?

In post 266, Vedith wrote:
In post 264, Zachstralkita wrote:Why did Dunn even claim man. I wanna commit to sudoku
Fake response :giggle:
You can't read my posts based off of what is said in them, you definitely can't tell what I'm faking and what I'm not LMFAO.
In post 297, Vedith wrote:Zach is just mad that I caught onto him.

Also, I can't be lynched. So there's that! :up:

Easy game easy money!
But if I were scum I'm not even in danger of dying here. You're not even really pushing blanche or I at all and we're your "scum reads". Your reads list puts the lurkers with 0 posts higher than players who have content in the game. It's hilarious.

Theoretically were I scum and you were town, we could flip you and I wouldn't get lynched because I doubt people really invest into your reads LMAO

The narrative you claim to hold doesn't really make sense. I'm supposed to be scum with Blanche but I would have hardbussed them today if so. You're aware I 180'd on that read which is scummy as fuck to do there.

You're not pushing "any" of your scum reads. I was waiting for a case but it looks like you're going to rely on not getting lynched for being too scummy

Am I just claiming scum to you because your town play is that good or are you just scum? (hint: Don't answer - this is rhetorical)


Easy game easy money :up:




His town game involves a lot of sarcasm and abrasiveness which is cool but he's not useless and obstructive when he's town. I think he's under the impression he's not getting lynched. You might be thinking the same lol
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Post Post #313 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:11 am

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he has shaddow as low scum in reads list and shaddow is the only person voting Blanche with him

is the team shaddowez/Zachstralkita/Blanche LMFAO
Vedith wrote:
In post 297, Vedith wrote:Also, I can't be lynched. So there's that!
In post 309, Zachstralkita wrote:I think he's under the impression he's not getting lynched.
Nice one, Zach, you worked that out from no where. \o/
Play harder? I think you're scum but I'm not going to give two shits about lynching you if you're town because you're doing a Boonskiies here and you're fully aware of it.

More apt comparison would be Mulch I guess, but at least Mulch managed to convince some people he was town.

Respond to any points on you at any time which is convenient by the way. Like I know it's going to be a lot of effort to make all of these things up but you've been doing it great so far :!:
Nosferatu wrote:zach youre being way too productive for my liking
looks like im scum
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Post Post #316 (isolation #51) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:20 am

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Vedith wrote:
In post 313, Zachstralkita wrote:Play harder? I think you're scum but I'm not going to give two shits about lynching you if you're town because you're doing a Boonskiies here and you're fully aware of it.
I'm aware that you're scum, yes.

And your argument for Shadow not scum (or whatever it is you're saying) is because he's voting with me on a 2 person wagon?

:giggle:
If you're town I don't think you actually read what people post in this game so I think you're hard scum or our most expendable town member ever.

Vedith wrote: And your argument for Shadow not scum (or whatever it is you're saying) is because he's voting with me on a 2 person wagon?
My argument is you picked your "reads" out of a hat basically and are pushing off of that. None of your positions make sense.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:23 am

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Congratulations, you put the conf town at the top where he belongs

your other reads still don't have any credibility because you haven't spoken on them and what you have said is close to nonsense
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Post Post #322 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:32 am

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In post 318, Vedith wrote:
In post 317, Zachstralkita wrote:your other reads still don't have any credibility because you haven't spoken on them and what you have said is close to nonsense
That's a lie.
I already explained why they are town.
No
In post 285, Vedith wrote:
In post 268, Zachstralkita wrote:Why did you ask for rainbow reads? Are you going to at least pretend to have evaluated something?
Well neither of you gave me rainbow reads for a start.

And since you and Gigga are jerking each other off on calling yourselves town to one another, I don't think any other town reads will be scum. :up:

That makes Vijarada town, that makes Nos town, that makes GD town, that makes Lycan town.

Shaddow being lean scum for you both makes him scum too.

Easy game, easy money.

This clearly relies on Blanche and I being scum together which is preflip

You haven't justified a read on any of these other people with their play.
In post 228, Vedith wrote:
Nos has the right attitude and is most likely town.

Dwlee / Shadow need to do better.

And the rest I don't want to comment on.
"You haven't justified a read on any of those people with their play" - me, just now
Carcalilly wrote:Also, just to bring another argument into light, sometimes misreping doesn't happen on purpose, and they just misunderstood what your post actually meant. I know this from personal experience. (duh carca stfu)
I don't think Vedith is this dumb though. And he's not working with me at all so if I'm dumb how am I going to clarify the issue?
Carcalilly wrote:wait is Dunn actually conftown? Technically they aren't
Logistically he's not conf but for all intents and purposes he is right now...
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Post Post #323 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:35 am

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Nos do you want to commit to something this game?


Or at least get the pocketing done early? I have too much trauma from before.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:03 am

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You would be the one pocketing me
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Post Post #329 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:09 am

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like do stuff


or if you're scum do the stuff that will make me town read you?



I dont know what any of your solid stances are
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Post Post #335 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:04 am

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Lmfao "carcass" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Nosferatu wrote:never had a game where I didn't lynch vedith
looks like the cycle continues

You not voting him makes me question your integrity
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Post Post #349 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:28 pm

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I don't want to do anything but lynch Vedith today
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Post Post #379 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:50 pm

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In post 377, jjh927 wrote:Are you arguing that you and Kraska have to be the same alignment

What? LMFAO
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Post Post #392 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:27 pm

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What do u mean move past Vedith being scum?


Did you not see they were a hydra from their sig, btw? Was going to say it before.

Re: Nos

Definitely, definitely town as long as he votes my scum read (expires past Day 2)
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Post Post #393 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:28 pm

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In post 388, Blanche wrote:
i'm ok w your slot now for what it's worth but i'd like to see you push something
I agree but it's kind of a reach to say he's posted anything AI tbh
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Post Post #403 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:33 pm

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Yes sir
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Post Post #406 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:40 pm

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Gamma Emerald wrote:Yup
First lynched too
Man that game was fucking great

Indeed. One of my best town games


I need more Aeronaut in my life to be honest
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Post Post #412 (isolation #64) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:57 pm

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I see u Wake. You just going to casually re appear like we brought you back with the Dragon Balls LMAO
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Post Post #427 (isolation #65) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:25 pm

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I didn't explicitly tell you this but you might be in a scumslot Gamma, so yeah
Mars Argo wrote:
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I spent like 8 minutes in this text box trying to think of other words but it just is too wondeful
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Post Post #429 (isolation #66) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:29 pm

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Captain Dunnstral this is Hotel Echelon Two Six requesting some intel on your plans cause idk what the fuck we doing over
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Post Post #452 (isolation #67) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:59 pm

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In post 431, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 429, Zachstralkita wrote:Captain Dunnstral this is Hotel Echelon Two Six requesting some intel on your plans cause idk what the fuck we doing over
I'm like a 4 dimensional person in a 3d space

you cannot even begin to comprehend me

I'm going for level 91
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Blanche wrote:just lynch scum gamma

we can speculate later
Foh Vedith getting rope D1
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Post Post #456 (isolation #68) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:02 pm

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Keep reading, I case him and I was townreading him at game start.

if you were interested Wake my case on him is in my ISO or you can just ISO him
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Post Post #463 (isolation #69) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:10 pm

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Wake88 wrote:
In post 456, Zachstralkita wrote:Keep reading, I case him and I was townreading him at game start.

if you were interested Wake my case on him is in my ISO or you can just ISO him
Explanations in a nutshell are better.

Like 5 sentences max.
Hmm... does this count

In post 291, Zachstralkita wrote:Vedith's argument revolves around me being scum with giga(Blanche) and panicking they're getting lynched but he conveniently forgets to mention at one point I thought Blanche was the scummiest player in the game and pushed them. It's absolutely nonsensical. Blink at him and he calls you scum. Try to question him and he misreps you... blatantly obstructive bullshit.

I saw him as an obvious ML last game when he was and I'm not getting those vibes at all. I can spot MLs but Vedith in particular's play doesn't feel genuine and he hasn't actuallly attempted to like be productive... at all.
Vedith wrote:
In post 268, Zachstralkita wrote:Why did you ask for rainbow reads? Are you going to at least pretend to have evaluated something?
Well neither of you gave me rainbow reads for a start.

And since you and Gigga are jerking each other off on calling yourselves town to one another, I don't think any other town reads will be scum. :up:

That makes Vijarada town, that makes Nos town, that makes GD town, that makes Lycan town.

Shaddow being lean scum for you both makes him scum too.

Easy game, easy money.
I'm pretty sure your scum game is composed of a lot of bullshit and false confidence.

I already said I literally was the only person in this game who scumread Blanche besides you.

Your positions you've held this game are utterly stupid as fuck:


1. I'm trying to derail a Blanche lynch (Who the fuck is going to lynch blanche?)

2. I'm scum with Blanche (I literally cased them more than you.)

3. I'm scum who tried to pocket you and "failed" (You literally ATTRACT ROPE. What use would you even serve me. Theoretically I'd pocket Blanche in this game and they already TR me like I said they would on like page 4)


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Post Post #468 (isolation #70) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:13 pm

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I mean you can just read the start of that post. The rest of the stuff is just there to clarify
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Post Post #490 (isolation #71) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:03 am

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In post 484, Blanche wrote:
In post 479, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 477, Wake1 wrote:In a nutshell what's the case on Vedith?

and then everyone sheeped
is dwlee everyone?

for wake...
  • His interaction with the thread feels obstinate and like he's not trying to sort the gamestate genuinely
  • He misconstrues interactions with him in a way that seems as though he's trying to turn things into fake scumreads
  • Lots of mudslinging, little pushing
  • Poor interactions around Carcalilly - not directly at her but at people who vote her/scumread her. Carcalilly is likely scum or lynchbait town (former is far more plausible)
if you need quotes Zach has plenty but I can connect them to the bullets :up:
Post 303 can verify a lot of these
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Post Post #499 (isolation #72) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:41 am

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I mean my case , mb.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #73) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:53 am

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Vedith trolling is NaI he's just doing it in a completely obstructive manner here.


We just finished a game where an obvious Vedith ML got strongarmed and I tried to stop it. In that game he at least did analysis. He has done jack shit here and his posting is inherently dishonest. If you go to the start of our interactions I simply question him, then the moment I find issue with how he answers me, he jumps right into a forced scumread on me and just holds it for some reason. There's like 80 flaws in his stances and he has zero play based reads. His scum team is one big pre flip.

If there were a day to lynch Vedith it'd be today.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #74) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:58 am

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Vedith doesn't want to cooperate or respond to any of the points I've cased him on which leads me to believe they're true. He doesn't consider any of his reads being wrong and he isnt trying to sort anyone


As town you don't blatantly shitpost up til your lynch when there's shit you could have defended yourself on which is what the game actually needs to sort. It's a blatant waste of the day and he in particular doesn't have an excuse if he lets himself get lynched as town. So I'm safe with locking him scum.

His misrepping is probably going to look really obvious if he does that so it's probably why he hasn't refuted anything.
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Post Post #506 (isolation #75) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:59 am

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Like he has Blanche and I as partners but doesn't account for the fact that I really openly 180'd on them today which is pretty incompetent as scum

There's not a way to read me, Vedith.
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Post Post #518 (isolation #76) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:21 am

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:evil:
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Post Post #520 (isolation #77) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:27 am

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Nos you didn't do anything except case Carca when we had already established the wagon



Discuss?




Yeah I got you now you doodlebob looking motherfucker
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Post Post #535 (isolation #78) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:27 pm

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In post 532, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 523, jjh927 wrote:Who do you think is scum, Carca
I only have gut reads right now with Zach and Dwlee.
Wake88 wrote:I hate Day 1 shenanigans. I need something to actually work with.

I need to know which members here refuse to vote certain members here Day 1.i want to know who you think is off the table no matter what for now.
I personally disagree with the vedith wagon. My vote won't be placed there anytime soon.

This post... Jesus






So do you wanna defend him then or
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Post Post #622 (isolation #79) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:41 pm

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Rofl knew he would take all that time "thinking" just to do that dumb shit
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Post Post #625 (isolation #80) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:42 pm

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In post 619, Dunnstral wrote:New plan

VOTE: Zachstralkita

I'm talking about this LOL
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Post Post #639 (isolation #81) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:47 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:Yeah I'm reckless

I thought I had a reason to believe vedith was but I kind of think he might be town - which leads me into believing Zach is scum

Don't even play -- if Vedith was town he would have towned during the game not at his last fucking post where he's about to be lynched

And with some vague shit about crumbs


I said he was obv scum if not our best lynch and you're just acting dumb.
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Post Post #649 (isolation #82) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:53 pm

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" I can't say too much - it'd be dangerous - never mind the fact that I'm about to be lynched and this isn't already a really hard PR soft. "





Sounds logical...
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Post Post #653 (isolation #83) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:57 pm

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Yeah I locked him scum a while ago


When it flips red lynch in Carca/Dwlee/ imo

Maybe a little dash of jjh
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Post Post #660 (isolation #84) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:02 pm

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In post 570, Mars Argo wrote:
In post 565, Dunnstral wrote:I think we should be lynching vedith today. I've found information to suggest he is scum this game!
Alright! This is all I need to hear. I'm fine to hammer.


The speed and lack of resistance gives me slight heebies in my jeebies, but I agree with Zach that this slot is at the very least not pro-town.
I just find it odd you had to get permission from Dunn considering Vedith's ISO this game
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Post Post #682 (isolation #85) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:38 am

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Dunnstral wrote:Scum team is Vedith, Carca, Lycanfire, Blanche
And we lynch them in that order

quote me on this

Don't act like you're giving us revelations lol most of us talked about this

Why is Blanche on the list
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Post Post #683 (isolation #86) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:18 am

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In post 619, Dunnstral wrote:New plan

VOTE: Zachstralkita

Dunn you starting off strong champ but u going to have another one of these moments in like 3 pages :lol: :lol: :lol: #COMPOSURE
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Post Post #686 (isolation #87) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:07 am

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Except you know you weren't supposed to fucking out that, right? That's what made his plan worthless
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Post Post #688 (isolation #88) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:09 am

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Like I thought the same thing when he claimed. Did I play like a scumfuck this whole day because of it? No
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Post Post #689 (isolation #89) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:14 am

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If that was getting outed anyway then whatever but it still doesn't make sense



Otherwise Vedith is scum
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Post Post #701 (isolation #90) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:43 am

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Mars Argo wrote:
In post 684, Vedith wrote:I was saying I'm informed not that's my roles idiots.
So I might as well say since it will say now. Dunn isn't the chosen one, but he's town. I was going along with him because I knew he had the right intentions but now his entire plan is worthless.
This is a town post. It practically confirms him if I'm on the right track. He knows Dunnstral isn't the chosen one.
Dunnstral fake claiming was a reasonable assumption in the first place. That post didn't tell us anything valuable.. and in pretty sure the point of Dunnstral claiming was not to be outed. It's why I never discussed the prospect

Vedith is still scum lol
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Post Post #702 (isolation #91) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:52 am

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The setup said clear enough that there was a "buff" to counteract scum's rolecop, but the implication should be obvious already that we don't have PRs. Hence there's no one to stop a night kill on the special townie, so him claiming would be our loss. Dunn's claim looked like a gambit to me. A town gambit, so Vedith didn't provide us information. He just told us what scum already knows.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #92) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:12 am

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Half of those reads are the ones I have so?

Unless you have conf guilties you don't have 100% reads without flips
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Post Post #710 (isolation #93) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:14 am

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Lmfao I've been trying to lynch him for 40 years
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Post Post #712 (isolation #94) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:15 am

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"It practically makes Vedith conf town"

- Mars Argo, 2050
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Post Post #722 (isolation #95) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:45 am

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Blanche wrote:Image

making the text readable was hard but quality memeing isnt easy :(
Oh my sweet lord the calibre of memeing I have witnessed this year is simply unparalleled. It may be enough to temporarily distract me from the immense misery and gallons of suffering increasingly apparent in the fabric of everyday society which will eventually consume us all leaving our souls forever vacant, our bodies now just pinecones of despair and regret
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Post Post #724 (isolation #96) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:50 am

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Hey, at least it was a compliment
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Post Post #759 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:11 pm

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VOTE: Carca


Since your 100% red flipped VT I'm gonna go ahead and say Blanche did not hardbus Vedith day one and they are town, Dunn. Be careful how you "steer"







@Vedith lmao bro... if you had appealed to me at all I would have townread you probably.


@Carca, Mars, and Wake. Let's talk about you three calling Vedith town yesterday

I think Carcalilly is scum but yeah.


pedit lmfaoooo the wake meme has me dead you have no idea lol
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Post Post #760 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:16 pm

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Is that an Animal Crossing character or something?
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Post Post #764 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:26 pm

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Gamma Emerald wrote:I think my scumread of Mars was already fairly clearly gone?
Also I don't know what exactly Carca did to get so universally scumread.

Obvious scum in my opinion, the guilty just cements it as I have no reason to doubt Dunn
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Post Post #767 (isolation #100) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:40 pm

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It's so adorable omg
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Post Post #772 (isolation #101) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:53 pm

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You said "brb lemme analyze the game" chilled for like 19 hours while we wagoned Carca and Vedith then popped your vote on Vedith "i got it guys heres something you havent done". Then me. Then Vedith.


I think the 4D exists I just don't think you've harnessed it at all
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Post Post #776 (isolation #102) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:57 pm

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I want to "lead" you onto some train tracks
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Post Post #780 (isolation #103) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:08 pm

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In post 778, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 776, Zachstralkita wrote:I want to "lead" you onto some train tracks
If wake88, vijarada, and dwlee were on another set of tracks, and a train was heading towards me, and pulling a lever would redirect the train to wake88, vijarada, and dwlee, would you pull the lever?

Is there an option where it's just you and I can redirect the train but it just goes around to you
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Post Post #785 (isolation #104) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:42 pm

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Don't we have to lynch all correct in a row or we lose
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Post Post #786 (isolation #105) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:44 pm

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jjh scummy but nos and dwelee's hops onto Vedith sucked
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Post Post #822 (isolation #106) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:40 pm

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In post 791, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want a real summary of what was scummy in his (?) play

all u had to do was ISO



Dunnstral wrote:Better yet

Let's all listen to ZACH tomorrow, I'm getting tired of leading this town. You're up buddy

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Post Post #823 (isolation #107) » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:42 pm

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[quote="In post 787, Dunnstral]
In post 746, Dunnstral wrote:Associations? LOL
Just vote who I say and don't think too hard ok?
[/quote]



You nearly wagoned me yesterday I should have let you throw
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Post Post #835 (isolation #108) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:49 am

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He claimed a guilty on you


Assuming he's lying assumes he's been lying the whole time and is scum



Dunn if you faked a guilty it's stupid there was no need for that cause she was getting lynched anyways. Otherwise Carcalilly is just scum
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Post Post #840 (isolation #109) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:55 am

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Um.... yeah....






You didn't do anything yesterday except commit to a hard Vedith townread for no reason and votepark Gamma's slot. Are you wondering why I considered that scum play? I'm wondering how you place me as scum



Pedit ok, lynch the fuck out of this
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Post Post #847 (isolation #110) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:01 am

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Vedith played like we could all see his Red PM Day 1 and that's facts



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Post Post #851 (isolation #111) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:04 am

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Meaning he played like scum and your argument to me is "would I have played like I was scum if I was scum? THINK ABOUT IT"



And I've thought about it. Theoretically bussing Vedith yesterday would have only made you look more scum
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Post Post #852 (isolation #112) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:06 am

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In post 844, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 841, Vijarada wrote:Dunn wouldn't guilty claim on you if you were town and he was scum. Nice try buddy.
I would do that

Tbh I wanted to counterclaim the same thing to save my ass but y'all went and massvoted me


Is this not a scum claim
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Post Post #855 (isolation #113) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:09 am

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Were you implying that you were going to claim a guilty on him or counter claim his role?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #114) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:20 am

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Imagine a Town Clairvoyant dies in a game...
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Post Post #865 (isolation #115) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:22 am

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The setup isn't released just because they died.
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Post Post #868 (isolation #116) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:30 am

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In post 866, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 833, Dwlee99 wrote:Dont really get how anyone got carca scum before the guilty claim, I thought they were town
Look at how many interactions Carca and Vedith had, and look at the exchanges between them. Screams scum theater to me.


so barring the guilty weren't you saying towncarca every post before this one
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Post Post #874 (isolation #117) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:34 am

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Gamma Emerald wrote:I wasn't
I was just asking for a damn case
Don't misrep me mofo!

I dont need to misrep you bro you have played scummy enough



the "town carca" group doesn't account for blanche and I really illustrating how she was scum in all of the ways that we needed to yesterday
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Hop off, I'm not the one who claimed this. Blanche was the one who said if an informed town died they would flip will all their info. I was saying Town Clairvoyants don't flip with their Clairvoyant info, so they shouldn't expect this.

Do you actually take issue with this statement? I think it's fine.
I was meming you lol
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Post Post #875 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:35 am

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you might as well join the olympic gymnastics team gamma
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Post Post #878 (isolation #119) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:36 am

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Lol I'm probably hella wrong but I have a guess for who you are that I wasn't gonna say
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Post Post #879 (isolation #120) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:37 am

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So I'm not going to say it until after we put town in autoloss and win
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Post Post #883 (isolation #121) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:38 am

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In post 881, Carcalilly wrote:damn I think I actually did just nail two scum
You have two partners left right
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Post Post #886 (isolation #122) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:40 am

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I bleed meme blood, Carcalilly. Those like I are a rare breed
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Post Post #889 (isolation #123) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:47 am

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Choose who of Vedith/Carcalilly the main character is
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Post Post #902 (isolation #124) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:10 am

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In post 899, Carcalilly wrote: <-- Gamma as we're onto them being scum

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:up: Me wondering who "we" is
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Post Post #908 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:22 am

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How hard do you want my fake laugh to be before you change your vote back
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Post Post #910 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:29 am

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Oh I'm dummm LOL we're just waiting on Ari?
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Post Post #918 (isolation #127) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:05 am

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These are the worst night kills I've ever seen. We gotta talk about this

Mars Argo wrote:ok master Dunn please carry harder to victory \o/

Nah I got the shit he relinquished his power


Someone tell me why Dwlee99 is not a scum fuck


More importantly, I would like Dunn to tell me why Blanche is scum if he wasn't joking the whole time
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Post Post #921 (isolation #128) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:08 am

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In post 817, Dunnstral wrote:Better yet

Let's all listen to ZACH tomorrow, I'm getting tired of leading this town. You're up buddy
In post 818, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 817, Dunnstral wrote:Let's all listen to ZACH tomorrow
I'm serious by the way

We're following Zach

If Blanche has an issue, well I don't fight but I swing arms
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Post Post #925 (isolation #129) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:18 am

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LMFAO HOLY SHIT WHEN THAT SHIT LOCKED I WAS IN A MIDDLE OF THE POST AND I STARTED FUCKIN CONVULSING LOL
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Post Post #928 (isolation #130) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:19 am

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In post 701, Zachstralkita wrote:
Mars Argo wrote:
In post 684, Vedith wrote:I was saying I'm informed not that's my roles idiots.
So I might as well say since it will say now. Dunn isn't the chosen one, but he's town. I was going along with him because I knew he had the right intentions but now his entire plan is worthless.
This is a town post. It practically confirms him if I'm on the right track. He knows Dunnstral isn't the chosen one.
Dunnstral fake claiming was a reasonable assumption in the first place. That post didn't tell us anything valuable.. and in pretty sure the point of Dunnstral claiming was not to be outed. It's why I never discussed the prospect

Vedith is still scum lol
In post 702, Zachstralkita wrote:The setup said clear enough that there was a "buff" to counteract scum's rolecop, but the implication should be obvious already that we don't have PRs. Hence there's no one to stop a night kill on the special townie, so him claiming would be our loss. Dunn's claim looked like a gambit to me. A town gambit, so Vedith didn't provide us information. He just told us what scum already knows.

So I was right about Dunn fakeclaiming... I obviously didnt say anything





giga, you think I'm way more intelligent than I actually am. Ethel Rosenberg was only a vague hint to me and I picked up on 0 of your game references, I just went with what I felt from reading the game
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Post Post #930 (isolation #131) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:20 am

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VOTE: Vijarada


Dwlee sorry for the scum read pal, it was just the lurk and Carca defend mostly
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Post Post #933 (isolation #132) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:26 am

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What the fuck was up with the night kills, scum?


Blanche and I should have been your optimal shots.. if you believed Dunn was the conf townie and had bulletproof, you should have spent your NKs on him to wear his shots out and kill him so we lose automatically.
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Post Post #934 (isolation #133) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:26 am

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That is l1 I think Kraska needs to hammer
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Post Post #941 (isolation #134) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:32 am

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Mars Argo wrote:I mean... I hate to say it, but how were scum supposed to win? I'm confused.

I don't know why Vedith scum claimed to me... and Carca dug her own grave
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Post Post #948 (isolation #135) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:36 am

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post Post #962 (isolation #136) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:46 am

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lunch beak
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Post Post #964 (isolation #137) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:52 am

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Blanche wrote:
Pedit: stfu the fuck off
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Post Post #968 (isolation #138) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:29 am

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OH MY GOD IS THAT FROM RED ALERT 3 ? used to love that game man
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Post Post #972 (isolation #139) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:56 am

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Did u steal the hammer lol
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Post Post #974 (isolation #140) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:11 am

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Lmfao Aw man kraska and giga prolly sitting at work like "I can't wait to drop our hammer" :good: :good:
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Post Post #977 (isolation #141) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

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U want me to book your plane ticket to Siberia now? You could be at the airport before they get here
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Post Post #979 (isolation #142) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

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(It won't be Siberia by the way because I've already named Siberia - or maybe that's exactly why it WILL BE)
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Post Post #986 (isolation #143) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:33 am

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kraska77 wrote: make sure that you don't quick lunch town and drag this game longer but then giga wanted a dramatic hammer so I unvoted


Wow kraska what did I do to you to get that relentless shade, this is a pretty good game for me




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Post Post #994 (isolation #144) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:46 am

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Y'all be using iPads as phones too probably
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #145) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:07 am

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national geographic some times shows the environment sometimes including the desert

the gentleman in question will receive the entire magazine of a .50 desert eagle handgun in similar fashion that national geographic gives "clips from the desert"
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #146) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 1002, kraska77 wrote:Also....
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LMAO this actually kills me
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #147) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:25 am

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I didn't read that part of Blanche's big post today so when Ari locked the thread I thought they had like broke a post restriction which kills them LMFAO
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #148) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:21 pm

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So almond milk is not associated with Soviet intelligence gathering
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #149) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:24 pm

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No no no Dunnstral was ex KGB....
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #150) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:32 pm

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Yeah I remember that but only after giga initially brought it up as the reference today

During the game my reaction to all of those references was the same as her reaction to National Geographic
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #151) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:04 pm

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Blanche themselves not being in that meme degrades it
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #152) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:25 am

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Shaded my mans wake with that middle tile tho :lol: :lol:

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