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I still need to do more thinks and I've got work to do and also I'm still feeling hungover from last night so I'm not doing my best mental thinking work
The thing that's doing my head in right now is that, with drixx being at L-1 for like over a week, should have meant that either
1. Drixx was last scum
2. Scum was already on the wagon
Because I don't know how else scum-Raya doesn't take advantage of the opportunity to take a free mislynch. I went into a bit of a tunnel on Raya considering what I viewed to be some scummy behavior, and admittedly it's quite possible that scum-Raya is too timid / admitted herself that she thinks optimal scum play is to avoid suspicion and maybe thinks a hammer would draw too much attention
So I need to go think about that some more
I'm also needing to think about the implications of nk'd itlepip, and what motivations go into that. He was apparently townread by all so not really mislynchable, making him an obvious target.. but also consider who becomes the most mislynchable person depending on the night kill, and who scum wants to take to lylo. If scum is key, this is the exact lylo she would want, if me and Raya seemed set to go against each other. If scum were raya...well, if I were her, I'd have shot me, not itlepip, I think.
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Raya36 is V/LA until today
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Deadline:(expired on 2017-07-22 14:00:00)[/area]Last edited by Plotinus on Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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Guys seriously, we need to talk.
I don't know, honestly, who is the last scum. I want to recheck things, too, but I'm on V/LA and I'll do it when I have the time.ShowGames that I modded:
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Keyenpeydee has been nudged (unofficially prodded).The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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Enclosed below is a spoiler of vote counts that may or may not matter. I'm going to think about them later.
You really don't need to bother opening the spoiler it's literally garbage and no commentary and is entirely for my own information because I'm at work on phone and no where to save
I'll say that the Day 1 fighting between key vs. Flog as dueling wagons, followed by the lynch on whatshisnameburgerkingmaybe is the key here, just have to analyze it
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Raya366 has been prodded. Since this is her sixth prod, she is also being replaced. If she posts before a replacement can be found, she can stay.The failure mode of clever is asshole.
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In post 1056, Plotinus wrote:Raya366 has been prodded. Since this is her sixth prod, she is also being replaced. If she posts before a replacement can be found, she can stay.-
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RAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ShowGames that I modded:
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Elbirn, do you think Raya is scum or do you think I'm scum?ShowGames that I modded:
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VOTE: RayaShowGames that I modded:
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UNVOTE:ShowGames that I modded:
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I agree that this is the perfect lylo for Key. I think if you were scum you would have shot me for the same reason you said I would have shot you. But at the same time this could be you trying to lead us in the wrong direction.In post 1050, Elbirn wrote:I still need to do more thinks and I've got work to do and also I'm still feeling hungover from last night so I'm not doing my best mental thinking work
The thing that's doing my head in right now is that, with drixx being at L-1 for like over a week, should have meant that either
1. Drixx was last scum
2. Scum was already on the wagon
Because I don't know how else scum-Raya doesn't take advantage of the opportunity to take a free mislynch. I went into a bit of a tunnel on Raya considering what I viewed to be some scummy behavior, and admittedly it's quite possible that scum-Raya is too timid / admitted herself that she thinks optimal scum play is to avoid suspicion and maybe thinks a hammer would draw too much attention
So I need to go think about that some more
I'm also needing to think about the implications of nk'd itlepip, and what motivations go into that. He was apparently townread by all so not really mislynchable, making him an obvious target.. but also consider who becomes the most mislynchable person depending on the night kill, and who scum wants to take to lylo. If scum is key, this is the exact lylo she would want, if me and Raya seemed set to go against each other. If scum were raya...well, if I were her, I'd have shot me, not itlepip, I think.
Idk, back to anime and drinking water
The more and more I think the more sus I am of Key but I still don't feel good about Elbirn. Aaahhh I don't know what to think anymore Dx-
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This vote really doesn't help my suspicions. Care to explain?
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Raya what do you think about key and Flogger wagoning each other on day 1? If you have time, can you reread those posts/pages and give me some thoughts? It's also...interesting, where key claims scum and tells flog to stop bussing her. Repeatedly.
For example, I don't know whether or not to conclude that "oh, they did some elaborate distancing/bussing play right there" or to conclude "okay lol they can't be scum together"-
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That's a good point. Thinking back now that we know Flog was scum it seems a bit odd for town!Key to say that Flog was bussing him then by coincidence Flog actually turned out to be scum and could have actually been bussing him.
This post also seems really genuine knowing now that Flog is scum.In post 239, keyenpeydee wrote:
I was attacking your playstyle because you keep on bussing your scum partner, who can't respond to pressure and who hasn't played scum for a long time.In post 237, TheFlogScrogger wrote:You were the one that claimed to be unaffected and posted a meme. I am here to finish the fight. I will not back down.
I think a theory could be that it was distancing play gone wrong. I think Flog was meant to push a little and it was supposed to be in a more joking tone and Key was supposed to joke back and defend himself which ended up backfiring with a frustrated scum claim from Key and possibly Flog backstabbing his partner in hopes that bussing and creating a wagon on him would take any sus away from him and give him some towncred.
The strength of my town read on Key came from the interaction with Flog but now that I look back I'm a lot less confident that they couldn't be scum partners.-
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I honestly don't know why I did that but all I know is that I want to end the game because this is seriously getting boring especially if Raya was replaced.
Elbirn, you've been really helpful a lot lately and I would really give you town points for that, however, I don't really trust your slot. Maybe because it was a ZZZX slot.
Raya, I know that I've been scumreading you so hard Day 2, but honestly, I am really townreading you at this point and since when you gave that ThinkBig case. I still don't trust you though and I would be really frustrated if you really turned out scum this game, but I would assume that you're town here.
So that leaves "me", whom I know is town. If I were scum, this isn't the LyLo I would go for, instead, I would've killed Raya since I think that she can convince Elbirn/Itle's slot that I'm scum, she can also be a threat to me, and I want to get rid of her since Day 2, but she wasn't the one who was killed last night, so I don't really agree with the reason that this is the LyLo I want.
Sure that Flog's slot was scum, but I would never EVER really hardclaim as scum like that. Sure, I claimed scum, but not that I would really completely claim that I'm scum. I hardclaimed scum because Flog was insulting, frustrating, and manipulating as fuck, and I feel really defeated to the point that I just want out of this game, but I still tried my best to stay on this game. I've been really unhelpful with a lot of the games I joined in, and I don't really want that to be my meta, but that's just how I play.
Bussing is also not on my playstyle if I am gonna be scum, so if I were scum with Flog, then I wouldn't be able to bus and create a case against him given that I can't respond to pressure and I don't really give a case that much against a person.
Sorry if I've been unhelpful on this game and some events I may not remember since a lot had happened, so I'll try to re-read my ISO. I'm really lazy af.
Soooooooooo to be clear, I want to lynch Elbirn rather than Raya. Still hesitant on this, but this is the one I want to go for.ShowGames that I modded:
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Raya, is it Elbirn that you think is the last scum?
Elbrin, who are you scumreading?ShowGames that I modded:
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I really want some direct answers to my questions so I want to question this:
1. Raya and Elbirn, what's your read on Itlepip?
My read on itlepip is town, though I scumread bombcat.ShowGames that I modded:
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Guys we have like 8 days and I wouldn't want to spend that 8 days without us being so inactive and shits
I think we should really talk and end this game.
I'm not really desperate to end this game, but I just want to avoid inactivity and replacements going.ShowGames that I modded:
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I don't know. I'm second guessing myself hard. My biggest problem with your vote for me was that if you aren't scum you just set the game up so that scum could easily hop on and hammer.In post 1069, keyenpeydee wrote:Raya, is it Elbirn that you think is the last scum?
Elbrin, who are you scumreading?
Was Itle not nked?In post 1070, keyenpeydee wrote:I really want some direct answers to my questions so I want to question this:
1. Raya and Elbirn, what's your read on Itlepip?
My read on itlepip is town, though I scumread bombcat.
I'm happy to talk. I'd like to figure this game out.In post 1071, keyenpeydee wrote:Guys we have like 8 days and I wouldn't want to spend that 8 days without us being so inactive and shits
I think we should really talk and end this game.
I'm not really desperate to end this game, but I just want to avoid inactivity and replacements going.-
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What the fuck am I readingIn post 1070, keyenpeydee wrote:I really want some direct answers to my questions so I want to question this:
1. Raya and Elbirn, what's your read on Itlepip?
My read on itlepip is town, though I scumread bombcat.-
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In post 1068, keyenpeydee wrote:I honestly don't know why I did that but all I know is that I want to end the game because this is seriously getting boring especially if Raya was replaced.
Elbirn, you've been really helpful a lot lately and I would really give you town points for that, however, I don't really trust your slot. Maybe because it was a ZZZX slot.
Raya, I know that I've been scumreading you so hard Day 2, but honestly, I am really townreading you at this point and since when you gave that ThinkBig case. I still don't trust you though and I would be really frustrated if you really turned out scum this game, but I would assume that you're town here.
So that leaves "me", whom I know is town. If I were scum, this isn't the LyLo I would go for, instead, I would've killed Raya since I think that she can convince Elbirn/Itle's slot that I'm scum, she can also be a threat to me, and I want to get rid of her since Day 2, but she wasn't the one who was killed last night, so I don't really agree with the reason that this is the LyLo I want.
Sure that Flog's slot was scum, but I would never EVER really hardclaim as scum like that. Sure, I claimed scum, but not that I would really completely claim that I'm scum. I hardclaimed scum because Flog was insulting, frustrating, and manipulating as fuck, and I feel really defeated to the point that I just want out of this game, but I still tried my best to stay on this game. I've been really unhelpful with a lot of the games I joined in, and I don't really want that to be my meta, but that's just how I play.
Bussing is also not on my playstyle if I am gonna be scum, so if I were scum with Flog, then I wouldn't be able to bus and create a case against him given that I can't respond to pressure and I don't really give a case that much against a person.
Sorry if I've been unhelpful on this game and some events I may not remember since a lot had happened, so I'll try to re-read my ISO. I'm really lazy af.
Soooooooooo to be clear, I want to lynch Elbirn rather than Raya. Still hesitant on this, but this is the one I want to go for.
This post was wishy washy garbage consisting of
1. Telling us what you would or would not do as scum, as if that's something that's not going to be biased, and comes across fishy as all hell. Very over defensive
2. Telling us that, basically, you have reasons to townread me and have wanted Raya gone for days...but you want to lynch me instead for no reason
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