Night and Day Mafia (Game Over)

[Aronis]

Pagetop!

[Aronis]

some days i feel like i don't know how to play mafia.

but then i read this thread

and i feel pretty good about my mafia playing

[Aronis]

I have 12 pages to read someone point me to important things as I do.

nothing meaningful has really happened in the past few pages. like at this point, if you're unsure about your read on anyone except maybe the new replace ins, you should probably just give up on figuring them out. so I would recommend you to just keep pushing whoever for whatever and ignore the last 12 pages.

[79 CE]

wait, questionare...

Math kept pushing about mass roleblock right and not strongman right?

BTD got no result after checking Math?

Math is ascetic trying to blow smoke to cover that fact?

P-edit: Babe, it's purely people in the light I'm sorting.

But the result also somehow clears Math.

[Ginngie]

The progression here happens with no input from BTD and is essentially wholly in response to my reads. You're manipulating your read of the game to fit your agenda. Tell me how that isn't true.

Those posts are over 1200 posts apart where people literally answered my questions about scum!tracker and then some, you can do better than that.

You can do better than that.

[MathBlade]

Titus is at L-2!

Eighty-fifth Votecount

:

(Twenty-ninth Votecount D2)

Titus - 7 (dramonic, Rautherdir, 79 CE, Creature, Ginngie, QuantumRadius, texcat)

BTD6_maker - 6 (Aronis, Titus, Mathblade, Bulbazak, Vedith, Nosferatu)

Nosferatu - 2 (A2, BTD6_maker)

Not Voting - 1 (TheWayItEnds)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

At deadline,

Titus

would be lynched.

Titus is at L-2

!

BTD6_maker is at L-3

.

Day 2's deadline is Wednesday, August 2nd, @ 1:30 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-02 16:32:47).

V/LA Notices/Mod Notes:

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• BTD6_maker is V/LA through Friday, July 28th.
  
• dramonic is severely V/LA for an unspecified period of time.
  

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

(=0)

Titus - 7 (dramonic, Rautherdir, 79 CE, Creature, Ginngie, QuantumRadius, texcat)

(+1)

BTD6_maker - 6 (Aronis, Titus, Mathblade, Bulbazak, Vedith,

Nosferatu

)

(=0)

Nosferatu - 2 (A2, BTD6_maker)

(-1)

Not Voting - 1 (

Nosferatu

, TheWayItEnds)

Last votecount was post 4640, page 186.

Spoiler: Player Vote History Day Two

• Mathblade(6):
  Creature==> BTD6_maker=> Unvote==> BTD6_maker==> Creature==> BTD6_maker
  
• Aronis(1):
  BTD6_maker
  
• 79 CE(3):
  QuantumRadius==> Mathblade==> Titus
  
• Titus(3):
  QuantumRadius==> Frosted Kelvin Bran==> BTD6_maker
  
• Vedith(4):
  Aronis==> BTD6_maker==> Mathblade==> BTD6_maker
  
• A2(8):
  BTD6_maker==> dramonic==> BTD6_maker=> Unvote==> Titus==> Narna==> Ginngie==> Nosferatu
  
• Ginngie(10):
  BTD6_maker==> QuantumRadius==> Mathblade=> Unvote==> Mathblade==> RadiantCowbells==> Nosferatu==> Mathblade==> Nosferatu==> Titus
  
• Bulbazak(6):
  dramonic---> Mathblade---> TheWayItEnds-> Unvote--> Mathblade---> BTD6_maker
  
• Creature(6):
  dramonic==> BTD6_maker==> Frosted Kelvin Bran==> Titus==> Narna==> Titus
  
• DrCirno(1)/RadiantCowbells(4+1)/TheWayItEnds(1+5):
  Mathblade | RadiantCowbells==> Titus=> Unvote==> QuantumRadius | Unvote
  
• QuantumRadius(6):
  Titus==> BTD6_maker==> Frosted Kelvin Bran==> Titus==> Nosferatu==> Titus
  
• Rautherdir(2):
  Creature==> Titus
  
• BTD6_maker(1):
  Nosferatu
  
• Frosted Kelvin Bran(0)/Narna(1+0)/Nosferatu(2+1):
  | BTD6_maker | Unvote==> BTD6_maker
  
• texcat(3):
  Aronis==> TheWayItEnds==> Titus
  
• dramonic(2):
  Creature--> Titus

Spoiler: Players Who Have BEEN Voted Day Two

1. BTD6_maker:
   14 - A2, Vedith, Mathblade, Ginngie, QuantumRadius, Creature, A2, Aronis, Titus, Narna, Mathblade, Bulbazak, Vedith, Nosferatu
   
2. Titus:
   12 - QuantumRadius, RadiantCowbells, Creature, A2, dramonic, QuantumRadius, Rautherdir, 79 CE, Creature, Ginngie, QuantumRadius, texcat
   
3. Frosted Kelvin Bran/Narna/Nosferatu:
   10 - Titus, Creature, QuantumRadius | A2, Creature | A2, QuantumRadius, Ginngie, BTD6_maker, Ginngie
   
4. Mathblade:
   8 - DrCirno, Bulbazak, 79 CE, Ginngie, Ginngie, Ginngie, Vedith, Bulbazak
   
5. QuantumRadius:
   4 - Titus, 79 CE, Ginngie, RadiantCowbells
   
6. RadiantCowbells/TheWayItEnds:
   4 - RadiantCowbells, Ginngie | Bulbazak, texcat
   
7. Creature:
   4 - Mathblade, dramonic, Rautherdir, Mathblade
   
8. dramonic:
   3 - Bulbazak, Creature, A2
   
9. Aronis:
   2 - texcat, Vedith
   
10. Ginngie:
    1 - A2

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 2

On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 02:06p,

Bulbazak

voted

dramonic

in post 2787.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 02:25p,

texcat

Voted

Aronis

in post 2791.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 03:10p,

Creature

Voted

dramonic

in post 2807.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 03:21p,

Vedith

Voted

Aronis

in post 2808.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 03:24p,

A2

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 2812.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 03:25p,

Vedith

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 2814.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 06:10p,

DrCirno

Voted

Mathblade

in post 2836.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 08:22p,

Mathblade

Voted

Creature

in post 2858.
On Wed, Jul 07/12/17 @ 09:30p,

A2

Voted

dramonic

in post 2873.
On Thu, Jul 07/13/17 @ 11:22a,

Titus

Voted

QuantumRadius

in post 2924.
On Thu, Jul 07/13/17 @ 10:54p,

Mathblade

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 2962.
On Fri, Jul 07/14/17 @ 02:55p,

Ginngie

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 2983.
On Fri, Jul 07/14/17 @ 03:33p,

Titus

Voted

Frosted Kelvin Bran

in post 2985.
On Sat, Jul 07/15/17 @ 05:23a,

QuantumRadius

Voted

Titus

in post 3014.
On Sat, Jul 07/15/17 @ 08:16a,

QuantumRadius

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3065.
On Sat, Jul 07/15/17 @ 08:22a,

Creature

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3067.
On Sat, Jul 07/15/17 @ 08:35a,

dramonic

voted

Creature

in post 3070.
On Sat, Jul 07/15/17 @ 10:55p,

Bulbazak

unvoted

(

dramonic

)

, and voted

Mathblade

in post 3086.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:20a,

A2

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3143.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 04:46a,

Creature

Voted

Frosted Kelvin Bran

in post 3149.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 06:37a,

QuantumRadius

Voted

Frosted Kelvin Bran

in post 3151.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 07:32a,

Rautherdir

Voted

Creature

in post 3171.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 11:55a,

Aronis

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3187.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 09:16p,

Titus

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3203.
On Mon, Jul 07/17/17 @ 11:46p,

Narna replaced Frosted Kelvin Bran

in post 3213.
On Tue, Jul 07/18/17 @ 05:08p,

Narna

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 3228.
On Tue, Jul 07/18/17 @ 10:25p,

79 CE

Voted

QuantumRadius

in post 3282.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 12:06a,

RadiantCowbells replaced DrCirno

in post 3313.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 12:26a,

A2

Unvoted

(

BTD6_maker

)

in post 3338.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:21a,

79 CE

Voted

Mathblade

in post 3420.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 04:08p,

RadiantCowbells

(Self-)Voted

RadiantCowbells

in post 3471.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:07p,

RadiantCowbells

Voted

Titus

in post 3503.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:08p,

Creature

Voted

Titus

in post 3504.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:15p,

A2

Voted

Titus

in post 3509.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:42p,

Ginngie

Voted

QuantumRadius

in post 3527.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:15p,

Ginngie

Voted

Mathblade

in post 3535.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 05:42p,

Ginngie

Unvoted

(

Mathblade

)

in post 3536.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:28p,

Ginngie

Voted

Mathblade

in post 3543.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:44p,

dramonic

voted

Titus

in post 3558.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 06:44p,

QuantumRadius

Voted

Titus

in post 3559.
On Wed, Jul 07/19/17 @ 10:28p,

A2

Voted

Narna

in post 3680.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 12:09a,

RadiantCowbells

Unvoted

(

Titus

)

in post 3764.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 10:18a,

Creature

Voted

Narna

in post 3807.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 01:54p,

Nosferatu replaced Narna

in post 3826.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 04:09p,

A2

Voted

Ginngie

in post 3833.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 04:12p,

A2

Voted

Nosferatu

in post 3835.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 07:06p,

Nosferatu

Unvoted

BTD6_maker

in post 3896.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 10:25p,

QuantumRadius

Voted

Nosferatu

in post 3925.
On Thu, Jul 07/20/17 @ 10:42p,

RadiantCowbells

Voted

QuantumRadius

in post 3933.
On Fri, Jul 07/21/17 @ 04:10p,

Mathblade

Unvoted

(

BTD6_maker

)

in post 4001.
On Fri, Jul 07/21/17 @ 07:12p,

Ginngie

Voted

RadiantCowbells

in post 4025.
On Sat, Jul 07/22/17 @ 02:25p,

Ginngie

Voted

Nosferatu

in post 4118.
On Sat, Jul 07/22/17 @ 02:25p,

Ginngie

Voted

Mathblade

in post 4119.
On Sat, Jul 07/22/17 @ 02:54p,

Mathblade

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 4124.
On Sat, Jul 07/22/17 @ 08:09p,

Vedith

Voted

Mathblade

in post 4139.
On Sun, Jul 07/23/17 @ 07:42a,

BTD6_maker

Voted

Nosferatu

in post 4162.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 10:40a,

Rautherdir

Voted

Titus

in post 4198.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 04:01p,

TheWayItEnds replaced RadiantCowbells

in post 4206.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 04:07p,

TheWayItEnds

unvoted

(

QuantumRadius

)

in post 4208.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 06:28p,

Bulbazak

unvoted

(

Mathblade

)

, and voted

TheWayItEnds

in post 4231.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 07:45p,

texcat

Voted

TheWayItEnds

in post 4261.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 08:10p,

Bulbazak

unvoted

(

TheWayItEnds

)

in post 4303.
On Mon, Jul 07/24/17 @ 08:18p,

Bulbazak

voted

Mathblade

in post 4321.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 06:42a,

Mathblade

Voted

Creature

in post 4396.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 08:00a,

Mathblade

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 4410.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 09:15a,

Ginngie

Voted

Nosferatu

in post 4523.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 10:08a,

79 CE

Voted

Titus

in post 4568.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 10:09a,

Creature

Voted

Titus

in post 4570.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 10:17a,

Ginngie

Voted

Titus

in post 4574.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 10:25a,

QuantumRadius

Voted

Titus

in post 4582.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 03:00p,

texcat

Voted

Titus

in post 4630.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 03:15p,

Bulbazak

unvoted

(

Mathblade

)

, and voted

BTD6_maker

in post 4626.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 03:17p,

Vedith

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 4638.
On Tue, Jul 07/25/17 @ 03:28p,

Nosferatu

Voted

BTD6_maker

in post 4646.

[MathBlade]

wait, questionare...

Math kept pushing about mass roleblock right and not strongman right?

BTD got no result after checking Math?

Math is ascetic trying to blow smoke to cover that fact?

P-edit: Babe, it's purely people in the light I'm sorting.

But the result also somehow clears Math.

Don't get me wrong...I am Town but not seeing how I am "cleared".

[MathBlade]

I have 12 pages to read someone point me to important things as I do.

nothing meaningful has really happened in the past few pages. like at this point, if you're unsure about your read on anyone except maybe the new replace ins, you should probably just give up on figuring them out. so I would recommend you to just keep pushing whoever for whatever and ignore the last 12 pages.

Yeah this is a bad idea. I already have another 10 or so in the middle of the thread for overnight....if I add too many more it just won't happen which is bad.

[79 CE]

Oh btw, if Titus is scum, you need to do things.

Like actually vote Titus...

And, once that has happened, you are giving reasons because I know biochem scum!PT was released. You have read Titus wrong, SO, you get to actually use words this game. If you don't, I will also hang Nero Cain over your head from Civ Maf.

But if you're town, actually talking shouldn't be that big a struggle and it actually gives you a chance to play without kicking and screaming and that sounds wonderful :3

How accurate RC usually is on Titus?

95% with a only one hicccup

Only difference being that at the time of the first quote you didn't want to push Titus; at the time of the second you did.

[Aronis]

Titus is at L-2!

Eighty-fifth Votecount

:

(Twenty-ninth Votecount D2)

Titus - 7 (dramonic, Rautherdir, 79 CE, Creature, Ginngie, QuantumRadius, texcat)

BTD6_maker - 6 (Aronis, Titus, Mathblade, Bulbazak, Vedith, Nosferatu)

Nosferatu - 2 (A2, BTD6_maker)

Not Voting - 1 (TheWayItEnds)

With

16

alive, it takes

9

to lynch.

At deadline,

Titus

would be lynched.

Titus is at L-2

!

BTD6_maker is at L-3

.

Day 2's deadline is Wednesday, August 2nd, @ 1:30 PM PDT: (expired on 2017-08-02 16:32:47).

What started a wagon on obvTown Titus?

I dunno but I intend to end the wagon

[MathBlade]

nancy why are you pushing Ginngie for her push on Titus and Unvote like you townread Titus yet haven't unvoted? I don't follow.

[Ginngie]

Spoiler: This is only one page of my ISO

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

Yes. You voted Aronis. I am not sure what you are getting at?

I mean, a name drop would have been nice

You're talking about Rauth or something and I dropped an L-3 naked vote first post of the game and then left lmfao

Your naked vote wasn't on the most popular wagon and you explained it by the time I woke up.

0.o

Aronis - 7 (Gamma Emerald, Vedith, Rautherdir, Keyent Think, BTD6_maker, Frosted Kelvin Bran,

Ginngie

)

and where have I explained a read on Aronis?

okay, so i can understand why someone can townread,how does that translate into me explaining my vote on Aronis and follow up, if I can understand why he can be a town read, why not ask me why I dont take off my vote?

This is a weird concern, but it concerns me that you're not pressing me at all, there are so many questions or sorting that can be done that's just tossed aside.

So none of what I did was scummy

why is that?

So naked voting with no reasoning to put someone at L-3 and never giving a reason or a read on Aronis, to you, is not scummy at all?

Why are you getting annoyed so quickly?

what if


what you're calling as nonsense

is me sorting you

._.

Besides thinking it, can you elaborate on why I'm town, and not because I annoy you, that's not a true reason

Wait, so I'm town because I just spew bravado?

Both of you knock it off please. You two going back and forth like this for a long time isn't constructive.

I am going to bed and I don't want to come home after work with 30 pages to read.

this is a good town post

How does that make Math town

think, you've given no thoughts on the game so far

OBJECTION YOUR HONOUR!


Okay so you're saying Rauth bussed

but that's a pre-flip

and those are shit

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus. (Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

Wait

so you're saying Rauth as scum, voted their scumbud, but you didn't have a read on Aronis to think Aronis was a bus vote.


Basically that's like going 2+?=4

Did you not just say you didn't have a read on Aronis when you voted Rauth?

That means during the vote, you didn't think Aronis was scum at the time of the vote. That it came afterwards.

YET

YOU THINK

IT'S A SCUM BUS

BECAUSE YOU SCUM READ THEM INDEPENDENTLY

I am drawing the conclusion Rauth bussed because I have independent scumreads on both Rauth and Aronis.

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus. (Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

In these two statements, it says two things
That Titus voted Rauth
the reason
spoiler=Rauth was bussing Aronis]

I think the vote on Aronis by Rauth was a scummy bus.

spoiler]spoiler=She says she delcares it was a bus vote because of two independent scum reads]

I am drawing the conclusion Rauth bussed because I have independent scumreads on both Rauth and Aronis.

spoiler]
However
spoiler=Titus stated that she didn't have an Aronis read at the time she voted Rauth]

(Although when I voted Rauth I didn't have an Aronis read).

spoiler]


In conclusion if this isn't clear, Titus

HAD

to have Aronis as a scum read for her progression to line up, however

SHE DID NOT

have a read on Aronis at the time of the vote.

So, Titus' read progression is

faked

.

so post 482 means nothing to you

How is it a stretch?

Did Titus have a scum read on Aronis before voting Rauth yes or no? (hint the answer is no)

Titus votes Rauth and says Rauth is bussing Aronis, but doesn't have a read on Aronis.

How is that not clearly contradictory.

I ask you, how can Titus judge sayinng two people are scum together and one is bussing the other when only ONE read exists?

Titus is fucking voting Aronis

Are you reading the game

You just said Titus was town reading Aronis

I know the feeling of work posting lol

P-edit: Dude I only have so many fingers

P-edit: LET ME POST IM RE READING

By the new look of it:
Aronis!town
Rauth!votes
Rauth!scum
Rauth!scumclaim
A conversation with FKB and votes Aronis
Aronis!scum
says bus vote

Wagon built way too fast, CE is town.

NAI

spoiler=]Subject: Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

Vote Count 1.01

Pine [6] The Thinker, Aj the Epic, Infinity 324, Desperado, Heartless, PrettyPrincess
SirCakez [3] Drunken Piper,Aeronaut, alban
BBmolla [1] Pine-A-Tonics
ThinkBig [1] KuroiXHF
Infinity 324 [2] SirCakez, Titus
Desperado [1] BBmolla

Not Voting - [3] Klingoncelt, Lil Uzi Vert, Indigo

Rogue Leader Vote:

No one

Mod Notes - May the flavor be with you.

With 17 Alive, It Takes 9 To Lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-01-24 15:26:20)!

spoiler]

Pine-A-Tonics was scum

ask Titus, she was there

as a matter of fact, if you read the first two pages, you'll see that scum was the first RVS vote and first wagon, then turned real for 3 vote counts straight, and those are Firebringer vote counts so you know some good time passed between them :3

The more people post "you should just

know

that I'm town" the more I dislike the playerslot.

This kind of rhetoric is silly. If you really expect people to have a confident town read of you less than thirteen pages into a game (if we remove mastina's posts, this thread is probably only at 10, moderator influencing game thread length, tyranny), you are you silly.

While I do believe that confident posting is good, the high level of "I'm right and you should just

get it

" is irritating and needs to stop. If you want to convince me of something, you're going to have to actually provide reasons rather than try to berate me into thinking you're right because the sky is blue, you had a banana for breakfast, and your dog didn't shit on the floor today. Your good mood or overwhelming magical self-confidence and competence is not a reason that I will accept.

Great, I wasn't convincing you.


@Kelvin, Why did you abandon the Aronis wagon with such hostility when you barely got on at the end? Also, I am referring to anyone in the hydra.

In fact, that's so sketchy I will....

VOTE: Aronis

What I seriously don't like is how Titus is questioning FKB here and thinks some bullshit, and then votes Aronis.

Up to this point, Titus had Aronis as a good noodle but because FKB is scummy to her or something, she votes Aronis because of it.

Now explain to me that bullshit

So let it be stated if I'm dead by daylight tomorrow but TB!scum, excluding hydra doesn't post or do shit at all.

I mean if he's town this is literally not an issue and I usually don't press it until future days.

Just a heads up tho

spoiler=]

MathBlade is sadly scum but I don't quite know how to express this one - it's a combination of a tonal read and a meta read. Their scumgame and their towngame is super super different and it's pretty noticeable to anyone who's familiar with their meta. Basically, the simplest way I can put it is.. if it feels like they're reasonable.. they're scum. If they're butting their heads against a brick wall that is reason, in *defiance* of reason, they're town. So you definitely need to be able to read tone to tell the difference. But you need the meta to *know* the difference, to know what to look for tonally. And they're just scum this game. Sorry Math. <3

Gin isn't *quite* as strong a read for me yet (I'd say Math is a proper scumread, Gin is like, a scumlean?), but basically it's kinda similar to the Math read. I wouldn't say that I can soulread Gin, because that'd be really premature. But I feel like I can sorta spot the differences in their scumgame? I basically felt right from my first interaction with her that she was scum, because if she was town I'd really expect her to come out with some witticism or to curse or to prod me with a question or something totally not game related that was on her mind, but instead she sends me a loveheart and I'm like.. you're not trying to sort me babe, you're trying to suck up to me. She's.... what's the word.. slick? When she's scum. Totally charismatic as both alignments. But her argumentation is a little different as scum. More, uh, distant, explain-y, persuasive. And she can be a bit of a softie when she's scum, even if she definitely does do the abrasive angermoment stuff as scum too. So that loveheart opening was a bit of a scumclaim for me, and the powerlynch le go.. yeah, didn't give me good feels.

I've read pretty much all her games, if that means anything.

spoiler]

Putting it simply, the Math read is a big ball of subjective air that holds no water as it doesn't deal with anything game related or proving the point.

Read on my is again, a "meta" read where of course people can read my games but I have about 4 different playstyles relying on mood :3

Oh, and the only one that will ever soul read me is mastina, it is scary how quick and accurate she is with me lmao

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Don't copy me, gives me bad vibes

Said it better than I ever could.

I scumread you as I said in the hood and still do.

You and nancy are likely trying to create discussion around me and bring nancy into it and avoid lynching her. By buddying Titus you can achieve that end.

I'm trying to not lynch nancy?

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Don't copy me, gives me bad vibes

Said it better than I ever could.

I scumread you as I said in the hood and still do.

You and nancy are likely trying to create discussion around me and bring nancy into it and avoid lynching her. By buddying Titus you can achieve that end.

I'm trying to not lynch nancy?

That isn't what I said. I said you and nancy are trying to talk about me because Titus scumreads me every fucking game. It is a way to distract the lynch off of nancy.

Honey where is my vote

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

Lol! I have contributed nothing to the game so far (that will change today) I should not be a town read

VOTE: Snarky

TB, I wanna see you put in some work cuz I support this

Lmao I'm such an indecisive little Bitch

Anywhooooo, blah blah TB blah blah meta blah blah blah promises catch up and won't, blah blah lynch

#ButThatsAnEasyWagonSoItMustBeTown

Fuck off a scum lynch is a scum lunch

Don't be annoying.

You're being annoying.

Why.

You don't read what's in the ducking page before you post...

You make a big deal about CE being today's lynch. I ask why you're not voting them, since you were voting Snarky. You say "You're right!", and then proceed to vote TB instead. If CE is as big a scumread as you've been saying, then the whole reasoning of TB not having caught up like he said wouldn't matter. In the realm of scumreads, TB would be a small blip next to the whale that is CE. So it's a reasonable question to ask. Did your read of CE change drastically since #971? And if so, how? CE hasn't posted anything in the interim, and I actually posted the basis of my scumread, so I know it's nothing anybody else said.

Yee, I mean I said I'm indecisive, kinda shows lol

The thing about CE and TB is, CE is off of play that I just doesn't sit well with me but TB is like, uber confident. I just push what's on my mind and it feels P-good

It doesn't make sense from your perspective obviously but I've been playing non stop since our last game and its just staring me in the face easy level

I'll make it simple

please don't make me do a mountain of data to prove this but it's bloody there.

TB doesn't post as scums

TB posts as town

TB posts elsewhere

TB not here

:3

I mean, I don't push lurkers unless they have a scum!meta of lurking

and replacing out by saying they can't keep up when you're active on site all the time doesn't help that fact.

Although, curious what you're saying are easy wagons

Ginngie(5): Aronis==> Mathblade==> 79 CE==> SnarkySnowman==> ThinkBig

Which ones were the easy wagons?

ThinkBig I have a history of calling out, so it can't be that.

Snarky having a strong townread on ThinkBig but never saying why and having no real contribution to the game, so it can't be that.

79 CE, you supported that one, so you going to call yourself out, so it can't be that.

MathBlade, Titus made an argument that Math town reads me while also ensuing scum reads, which I find genuinely confusing/scummy, so it can't be that(for the record this is partly gamethread and PT related).

The only one you can say that was 'easy' was my Aronis vote and that was 2 things, 1. RVS, 2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

I'll be sitting here waiting :3

You willfully ignore the reasoning I stated in the same post I quoted.

You talk about players being easy pushes, that's called calling out scummy shit or sorting players. You're not supposed to know their alignments so literally any of those players could be scum, yet you sit here lambasting me for it.

There's no way right now where I don't think it's scummy as fuck for you to essentially say all 3 of those players are town.

You don't criticize a push cuz it's "easy" sometimes that's all it really fucking is and with the amount of years notched on your belt, you damn well know that.


So tell me, without knowing their alignments, what is the town motivation on your part in invalidating my pushes by making up excuses instead of arguing against what I have already stated to be the reasoning behind my pushes?

How the fuck do you willfully ignore all my reasoning behind the votes and discuss that?

You took the fucking time to snip my own quote so I know you at least read that post.

Oh boy I'm here

10 pages in. Only strong read is TB town.

just realized my slot has a vote out there

UNVOTE:

Also to mention he went for the easy push which is Snarky.
Although I'm not against voting Snarky

let me catch up god

30/50 getting closer

stop posting so much tho you fucks


dont feel like putting content till i'm all caught up but if you want to ask something specific feel free i guess

You can do this literally quote by quote since there is only 4

please describe how you got a strong town read from this slot :3

You willfully ignore the reasoning I stated in the same post I quoted.

You talk about players being easy pushes, that's called calling out scummy shit or sorting players. You're not supposed to know their alignments so literally any of those players could be scum, yet you sit here lambasting me for it.

There's no way right now where I don't think it's scummy as fuck for you to essentially say all 3 of those players are town.

You don't criticize a push cuz it's "easy" sometimes that's all it really fucking is and with the amount of years notched on your belt, you damn well know that.


So tell me, without knowing their alignments, what is the town motivation on your part in invalidating my pushes by making up excuses instead of arguing against what I have already stated to be the reasoning behind my pushes?

You must have gotten a very bad image of my play from Hunger Games if you think threatening me is going to make me wilt.

Okay first off, I don't exactly get your perspective here? What did any of the Hunger Games have to do with this?
If anything related, I'd refer back to how I hated arguing with you, but I want your take on me directly challenging you and willfully picking a fight.

There's two ways that can go, it's either scum!me thinking, fight Bulba to counter his past experience, or town!me doing what I do and raise hell fire when someone has trouble working with me.

And I really don't like being misreped in the manner you just did. And yes, that is a willful misrepresentation of my argument and not some form of miscommunication. At no point did I say I knew any of their alignments,

Here's the thing, from my perspective, and admittedly this might be an emotional trigger, I see ignore what I wrote
spoiler=]

Ginngie(5): Aronis==> Mathblade==> 79 CE==> SnarkySnowman==> ThinkBig

Which ones were the easy wagons?

ThinkBig I have a history of calling out, so it can't be that.

Snarky having a strong townread on ThinkBig but never saying why and having no real contribution to the game, so it can't be that.

79 CE, you supported that one, so you going to call yourself out, so it can't be that.

MathBlade, Titus made an argument that Math town reads me while also ensuing scum reads, which I find genuinely confusing/scummy, so it can't be that(for the record this is partly gamethread and PT related).

The only one you can say that was 'easy' was my Aronis vote and that was 2 things, 1. RVS, 2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

I'll be sitting here waiting :3

spoiler]
and like, you didn't engage with any of the reasoning, and just gave it your own. To this very moment you use your own interpretation of the Aronis vote when I clearly stated it was to be used a sorting tool which I very clearly described in the post below
spoiler=]

2. A deliberate scummy vote to get reactions which I later on used to question why Titus wasn't looking into my slot, so it actually can't be that either.

spoiler]
spoiler=Also just in case you somehow missed me doing all that sorting with that vote, let me post it blatantly and all in one spot]

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

You don't interact with the lurker on your wagon who is opportunistic as fuck (Rautherdir),

Did you see my vote?

Yes. You voted Aronis. I am not sure what you are getting at?

I mean, a name drop would have been nice

You're talking about Rauth or something and I dropped an L-3 naked vote first post of the game and then left lmfao

Your naked vote wasn't on the most popular wagon and you explained it by the time I woke up.

0.o

Aronis - 7 (Gamma Emerald, Vedith, Rautherdir, Keyent Think, BTD6_maker, Frosted Kelvin Bran,

Ginngie

)

and where have I explained a read on Aronis?

This is a weird concern, but it concerns me that you're not pressing me at all, there are so many questions or sorting that can be done that's just tossed aside.

So none of what I did was scummy

why is that?

So naked voting with no reasoning to put someone at L-3 and never giving a reason or a read on Aronis, to you, is not scummy at all?

Why are you getting annoyed so quickly?

what if


what you're calling as nonsense

is me sorting you

._.

spoiler]

although I do have, and have stated in thread, strong town reads of Aronis and Snarky's slot.

spoiler=Aronis read]

Vote 79 CE

Aronis is a horrible vote. He's obv. town.

It's the way he's posting. That's the whole reason why I was trying to interact with people. Aronis comes across as being very natural, whereas if he was scum, he'd be holding part of himself back or even posting less. We don't get that. That level of idgaf is very hard for Aronis-scum to fake.

spoiler]

Personally I don't like really quick reads but I don't know the history of Aronis so I can't criticize and I've scum read one post before and was right, so I mean yeah I can understand.

HOWEVER.

You are devoid of any reasoning that involves explaining why snarky is town. The predecessor zeus was there but
spoiler]

Townreading Aronis, Gin, and Zeus.

spoiler]
That's literally all you say on that topic, it's nothingness. So a question I want answered, is why do you have literally no expression of a thought dealing with reasoning, yet your push on me is that I'm pushing weak reasoning on players. I HAVE reasoning, while your pushing me on stuff that you've shown no real support for besides making a statement.

But that's besides the point, because we both know that you don't need to know alignments to know when a wagon or a push is off. And I don't need to freaking know their alignments to point out a pattern of voting that does not seem right.

This will be a great learning moment for me, possibly. I've never seen this theory of seeing a push as bad on D1. Just learn me up on this because I don't agree with it, but I don't want to argue with something that I don't understand.

It's called scumhunting. You see something that looks off and push at it.

So, you have admitted that the snarky thing was weird, meaning it looked off, and I pushed it. That's called scum hunting. So what did I actually do wrong?

If we look closely at your level of activity, it becomes clear real quick that you went for the wagons on the weaker players with little or weak reasoning, and then you let someone else push. That's what happened with Aronis. That's what happened with CE, since there were others, myself included, pushing it harder for you.

*coughs* V/LA at a summer camp *coughs* Besides the point, once I got home, and I started pushing TB, I think we can agree that the level of activity in me pushing a slot increased exponentially? Yay, or nay; if nay, give a reason to say?

Snarky was for stating a townread on TB, which would warrant a knee jerk vote, but it's weak reasoning at best, and you never followed up on it.

SO IT'S AN OKAY VOTE, BUT NOT WHEN I DO IT :3

and, like, idk if you noticed, but it's hard to follow up on Snarky when Snarky straight avoids the game :3 So, context trumps your argument.

And as for TB, that's the hardest you've pushed, and it's for a lurker lynch, one that actively avoids discussing any other player.

As of this moment, I just realized I didn't make the meta case I was gonna do yesterday. The importance of the meta is not worth making the spoiler for this section but it's not just any lurker lynch, it's scum reading a lurker, and I can honestly tell ya, scum can and will be lurkers, if you say otherwise, you need to get up to date with site meta because people like you who ignore lurkers are exactly why people lurk and win scum games. I can also introduce you to my not give a shit scum hunting theory crafting i've been working on and Titus can vouch that it's weird yet true that I use it.

And given TB's replace out, I'm just going to say that I don't think it's alignment indicative at all. And even if it was, a new player in the slot makes it infinitely easier to read, but that looks like it's something you're not interested in.

To be honest, I give a push I do my 100% until something else makes me re-evaluate/see something shinier. Nothings in sight so :3

I liked my interaction with you earlier in the day, but that could have just been personality,

<3

as you've done diddly squat since then.

I mean, ehhhh lately I've become a man of few words except for when I'm not.

And I don't like it, because it doesn't mesh with my Titus read, but that's gut, and this is just something that's been gnawing at me since Snarky. And I didn't want to do anything, because I really want to believe you're town in this game. Like I really do. But I'm having a harder and harder time buying it.

Unvote

Math, someone, talk to me. I just don't know anymore. I'm going to take this day and think. I'll put my vote down again tomorrow.

P-edit: See you in a few minutes, buddy.

One question

what is stopping you from voting me?

<<< I'd fix this but I can't quite identify how it's broken, so unfortunately it'll have to remain this way. >>>

[/quote]

1260 fucking exists

and you say say shit like this

Gin doesn't do the cheap hostility and discrediting with zero argumentation thing as town. He has no depth as scum and he has no depth here. He's not interested in talking to anyone and he doesn't even seem to have any reads. It's just scum.

I'm starting a fight

VOTE: MathBlade

Bullshit

You're not a pacifist

spoiler=@Math]spoiler]

1260 fucking exists

and you say say shit like this

Gin doesn't do the cheap hostility and discrediting with zero argumentation thing as town. He has no depth as scum and he has no depth here. He's not interested in talking to anyone and he doesn't even seem to have any reads. It's just scum.

1260 is just LAMIST to me. Sorry.

Bullshit that's not at all LAMIST

Actually explain how that's LAMIST

I'll wait.

Now please, catch me up.

okay, I'm an innocent child (see post #94)
Titus and texcat are scum. You probably are, not sure who the third is
Then MathBlade, Quantum, and EddieFenix are in the townblock with me and all of us a widely townread by most people. A2 is also town. Bulba is prob town. After that I don't really know.

Add Titus too.

light!198 is a freaking gem

<<< DrCirno replaces ThinkBig effective immediately. >>>

oh hi. more people I don't know

If by gem you mean fabrication then go ahead...Oh wait now a days most gems are synthetic. Nevermind carry on.

HOW

CAN

YOU

CALL

IT

A

LIE

WHEN

YOU

FUCKING

SAY

THE

WORDS

YOURSELF

IT'S YOUR OWN FUCKING WORDS

THERE'S NO FUCKING TWISTING ANYTHING YOU'RE JUST SPEWING BULLSHIT AND NOT ENGAGING ME BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'RE FUCKED IF YOU DO

EBWOFP

How in the fuck is that a question that matters at all

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts. In 1900 nancy did exactly the same thing when she believed she was going to die in 1900. The biggest champion of the nancy wagon was me and the only argument I see for a wagon is "wagon stalled" or "not doing enough".

That fits 3/4ths of the game and is lazy as fuck. Aronis wagon although I think that is wrong too at least has a few people stating why.

I feel much better about the Aronis wagon than the nancy one.

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts. In 1900 nancy did exactly the same thing when she believed she was going to die in 1900. The biggest champion of the nancy wagon was me and the only argument I see for a wagon is "wagon stalled" or "not doing enough".

That is why she is Town Ginngie she ISN'T trying to force her will on others she is laying her cards on the table and saying these are my thoughts.

That is why she is Town Ginngie

Town Ginngie

YOU LIKE TO AVOID THIS BIT LIKE THE PLAGUE DON'T YOU

USE YOUR WORDS

I WILL GIVE AN EXPLAINED REASON WHY GINNGIE IS TOWN BUT FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I'LL TELL YOU WHY SHE'S SCUM

HEY MATH

FUCKING PUSH ME

I WILL GIVE AN EXPLAINED REASON WHY GINNGIE IS TOWN BUT FUCK YOU IF YOU THINK I'LL TELL YOU WHY SHE'S SCUM

Dude I'm reading the fucking thread. I'll give you the ultimate smackdown when I'm done.

You literally won't.

You're going to make up some excuse after reading how you're tired and will leave. I know your bullshit.

VOTE: Gin
done with your shit.

You're gonna have to use your words on that one

Literally my entire night until 11 pm is devoted to this fucking game. So if you wanna accuse me of faking being tired when you do MY JOB go ahead. When you do my job for a living and then know what it's like to be me to work in a job that you can't even begin to be gender queer at except maybe a little bit of clothing so not only do I have to do my regular job I am the token goddamn female except that female wants a dick. You can take your bullshit about me actually not posting twenty four seven and flush that argument down the toilet. I am reading the thread and making an intelligent reasoned answer before I respond to you. DEAL WITH IT.

That's a lot of words not explaining a scum read on me

VOTE: Gin
done with your shit.

You're gonna have to use your words on that one

I think your rage is fake.
And everytime I read your latests posts I want to strangle myself.
I am fucking pist.

Coming from you that's scummy as fuck.

Two reasons real simple.

1st, we have a plethora of games together and you've seen my style almost every game.
2nd, You are a carbon copy of rb from our last game together where he voted me because I was annoying rather than being scummy.

1st, we have a plethora of games together and you've seen my style almost every game.

I don't care about your style atm. I'm not going to townread you for it either.
Like
I am just
Angry when I see your posts.
And I don't even fucking know why
but I just look at your posts and just get angry.
like fuck man.

--

2nd, You are a carbon copy of rb from our last game together where he voted me because I was annoying rather than being scummy.

You really think I care about what rb did? Our playstyles aren't even the same Gin. Like this is just bullshit.

1st again, in spyro you were annoyed by me.

2nd again, scummy behavior is scummy behavior, I'm not talking playstyle, it's the same action and justification in how you vote that makes it scummy.

spoiler=]

Literally my entire night until 11 pm is devoted to this fucking game. So if you wanna accuse me of faking being tired when you do MY JOB go ahead. When you do my job for a living and then know what it's like to be me to work in a job that you can't even begin to be gender queer at except maybe a little bit of clothing so not only do I have to do my regular job I am the token goddamn female except that female wants a dick. You can take your bullshit about me actually not posting twenty four seven and flush that argument down the toilet. I am reading the thread and making an intelligent reasoned answer before I respond to you. DEAL WITH IT.

That's a lot of words not explaining a scum read on me

Now that I'm caught up you get your shiny "words".

First off your ISO has one or two "wall posts" in it that barely about to any sort of content at all. Your ISO in here reads more like active lurking and outright spam. When I'm clearly online and addressing things there is 0 reason to continually go answer me now. The only purpose that serves it will derail me and make me lose my train of thought as I am a stream of consciousness poster. If I'm thinking something then preview the post for formatting reasons and I see 10 MATH PUSH ME posts my give a fucks go down to almost none. There is NO reason to do that and it makes the game unbearable. If you are addressing a direct point, then fine. But you're literally trying to hijack the thread to get me mislynched avoiding talking about texcat, hijacking the light PT towards making it unusable, after a great start you've done literally no hunting then are just spamming "MATH IS SCUM" repeatedly over and over and over.

There are multiple ways to play mafia and quite frankly the "I'm gonna shit the thread" is becoming more common as scum and it's really pathetic. If you can't be scum and actually put forth an intelligent conversation move on.

spoiler]

So the scum read is devolved into active lurking/me begging you to push the fuck out of me

You're saying outdated meta but it doesn't change the fact that voting someone because they're annoying and not because they're scummy, is scumfuck calling card.

Okay fuck the meta.

My point still stands.

You're voting me because you're annoyed and not because I'm scummy.

Okay fuck the meta.

My point still stands.

You're voting me because you're annoyed and not because I'm scummy.

Hey scum
Are you gonna bark all day or are you gonna bite?

Okay, witty remarks does not equal retorting the point I made.

Hey Gin
here's a fun thing to think about.
Put yourself in my shoes.
And ask yourself "If A2 was scum, why would they initiate a fight with you?"

WIFOM

Also fuck you you make it valid, Spyro you literally went "why would I as scum vig hunt" or something like that.

SO, if your scum game is no longer weak, then you would no longer fear a fight, so you would be able to use WIFOM to argue that you wouldn't fight me as scum.

that's like circular logic?

You're not even addressing my point...
You're just taking the weakest shit I throw out there and using it to suit your own needs...

Your point is literally WIFOM making it unusable?

Alisae do you have any reason to vote me besides being annoyed

Literally out the gate I spent I was sorting Titus.

Also, I started the BTD wagon with this:

Spoiler:

heavily leaning on BTD

my read here is that he's really just fence sitting, observing the chaos and every time he produces content, its about the leading wagon.

Like, CE wagon he talks about it, oh now Aronis is popular here's why, then texcat was popular.

He's also withholding his vote a lot. I mean, he voted in RVS, then unvoted and has never actually pushed anything.

In camn's revenge, he would directly fight and push scum reads and using his own reasoning.

What I'm seeing here is parroting and Information over Analysis.

Oh and the beetlejuicing.

I literally call him out for doing nothing, pops in the thread to make a comment about him doing nothing and then vanishes.

so conclusion, I have like, no actual reason to townread BTD off of his play.

[79 CE]

The progression here happens with no input from BTD and is essentially wholly in response to my reads. You're manipulating your read of the game to fit your agenda. Tell me how that isn't true.

Those posts are over 1200 posts apart where people literally answered my questions about scum!tracker and then some, you can do better than that.

You can do better than that.

The quality of the take is a legality; my point is you're adapting your reads to what serves you and what other people want.

[Ginngie]

Oh btw, if Titus is scum, you need to do things.

Like actually vote Titus...

And, once that has happened, you are giving reasons because I know biochem scum!PT was released. You have read Titus wrong, SO, you get to actually use words this game. If you don't, I will also hang Nero Cain over your head from Civ Maf.

But if you're town, actually talking shouldn't be that big a struggle and it actually gives you a chance to play without kicking and screaming and that sounds wonderful :3

How accurate RC usually is on Titus?

95% with a only one hicccup

Only difference being that at the time of the first quote you didn't want to push Titus; at the time of the second you did.

HOLD THE PRESSES

You mean to tell me I was demanding RC give reasons so we could sort the slot? FUCK IM SO SCUMMY.

nancy, cut the shit.

you're literally taking 1500 posts apart and taking away the middle man which is those 1500 posts.

Reads change over time and you're acting like they're concrete.

[Titus]

The progression here happens with no input from BTD and is essentially wholly in response to my reads. You're manipulating your read of the game to fit your agenda. Tell me how that isn't true.

Those posts are over 1200 posts apart where people literally answered my questions about scum!tracker and then some, you can do better than that.

You can do better than that.

The quality of the take is a legality; my point is you're adapting your reads to what serves you and what other people want.

Everyone does this. It's a good mark of townplay to work with your townreads.

[Ginngie]

The progression here happens with no input from BTD and is essentially wholly in response to my reads. You're manipulating your read of the game to fit your agenda. Tell me how that isn't true.

Those posts are over 1200 posts apart where people literally answered my questions about scum!tracker and then some, you can do better than that.

You can do better than that.

The quality of the take is a legality; my point is you're adapting your reads to what serves you and what other people want.

Honey, what's my catchphrase?

[Titus]

Hey Math, skip the reading.

Were you roleblocked, yes or no. Town needs to know.

[MathBlade]

Titus help me. I am drowning in pages here. Why did a wagon start on you when you are obvToen?

[Ginngie]

Hey Math, skip the reading.

Were you roleblocked, yes or no. Town needs to know.

[MathBlade]

Hey Math, skip the reading.

Were you roleblocked, yes or no. Town needs to know.

I need to know to answer that and I don't:

[Ginngie]

Math

It's a lie to say you don't know

[Titus]

Titus help me. I am drowning in pages here. Why did a wagon start on you when you are obvToen?

I refused to vote you or Nos. Dram and Rauthdir just sat back and waited until people got pissed.

[Nosferatu]

Hey Math, skip the reading.

Were you roleblocked, yes or no. Town needs to know.

I need to know to answer that and I don't:

the fuck tho?

[MathBlade]

Math

It's a lie to say you don't know

Uhmmm it is literally impossible for me to know. Sorry. :/ Don't know why you're saying that.

[dramonic]

Titus help me. I am drowning in pages here. Why did a wagon start on you when you are obvToen?

lol