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WhyMafia · Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:16 am

Like I'm pissed. WAS YOUR WHOLE ANGER FAKE ALBAN?

WhyMafia · Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:17 am

Lynch alban, scorpious or awesome is his scumbuddy is it's a 3 person game, inclining towards awesome

WhyMafia · Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:58 am

You know what? I want to gladiate with Alban. 1 v 1 me.

ISO · Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:09 am

Day 2 VC #6Awesomeusername (1) - MarioManiac4 (1026)
WhyMafia (1) - Alban (869)
Steel (0) -
Mulch (1) - LlamaFluff (961)
Scorpious (1) - Mulch (1200)
Alban (1) - WhyMafia (1223)
MarioManiac4 (0) -
LlamaFluff (1) - Steel (955)
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (2) - Awesomeusername, Scorpious

Lynch ThresholdWith 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

DeadlineDay 2 will end by August 5, 2017 5:30 PM EDT or in (expired on 2017-08-05 17:30:00).

Moderator NotesModerator V/LA July 24-28. Please address issues to Gamma Emerald during that time.
Steel V/LA until July 30. ((expired on 2017-07-30 23:59:59))
Have fun!

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Spoiler: Previous Voting History

Scorpious · Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:52 am

VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.

WhyMafia · Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:59 am

Scorpius .. I retracted bc I thought his anger was genuine. You think my whole tirade against Alban was fake? If so ... I honestly don't know what to say.

Mulch · Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:03 am

In post 1221, awesomeusername wrote:@Mulch 1196: Maybe I shouldn't be reading into it quite this much, but alban in particular really replaces out a lot as town. But if you think it's NAI, why'd you move your vote?

Cause Scorpious is scummier

@Mulch 1198: Hrmm, I could kind of tell it was at least partially premeditated. That's why I'm not town reading the rage. It's interesting that you think Llama's intentionally making stuff up but are still town reading him. :/ Like I guess making blanket assumptions based on a "tell" is bad but I'm not sure how you can ever get inside someone's head that deeply.

Also, just in general, I'm having a really hard time getting inside your head, thought I'd let you know. I think at least a part of it is experience gap. Can you explain why, say, Scorpious not interacting with Carca indicates town while alban's emotions are NAI? They both just seem like meta to me - I don't see a difference.

It's not that every person who does this is scum, etc, or town. Besides the fact he would have to be suicidal to this as scum right now, it's that this particular push by Llama is SO manipulative and so obviously scummy and iditotic that it shows they are so dedicated to the idea that I am scum that they will do whatever it takes in their brain to rationalize this idea to them. The confirmation bias is real, and it's a real thing. Even though it's completely wrong, the sheer force and belief they have in it that they would be willing to go to such wrong lengths and try and spin EVERYTHING to fit their one conclusion that they already decided shows that they beleve in what they are saying. Scum when making cases would be more inclined to make it at least seem coherent, reason based, and would be inclined to especially not lie which looks REALLY bad on them. and not make such a misleading and wrong case where they will automatically be lynched tmrw when I am dead. There's WIFOM involved in this but yeah.

Carca interacts with her partners so the fact there is little interaction is a small bonus to Albus, but the replace out is thoroughly NAI because it can easily come from scum or town.

@Mulch 1201: The gut scumread might honestly just be intimidation, combined with the fact that he's pretty manipulative. Actually, I'm kinda coming around to him. His reads are evolving, which is good to see.

Also, I don't think Scorpious is scum. What's beetlejuice?

How are his reads evolving........... jesus christ

Beetlejuice is when you mention someone and they appear lol

In post 1218, alban wrote:
The winds changed direction after I left, and so did whymafia's tune.

I noticed that, too.

@Mulch: How certain are you on your read on WhyMafia right now?

Fairly certain

Mulch · Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:06 am

Alban I liked your wall in general but I want you to explan this more:

In post 1222, alban wrote:Your reasons in 1162 for voting for me:
1. Scum are more likely to maintain their vote on 1 person throughout. Since Alban had his vote on Vedith throughout, he is likely to be scum.
2. Scum are more likely to have shallow reads. Since Alban has fakeable shallow reads, he is likely to be scum.
3. Alban doesn't have satisfactory reasons for his play on D1.

These show that you have not grasped the game completely. I am not trying to be patronising. I believe these are pretty trivial reasons and are nai.

You also obviously don't know how annoying it is to be pushed by a tunnel full of shit and manipulation of what you said, just becuse Llama decided before the day began that I was scum and their way of "scumhunting" is to decide I'm scum and then fit things to fit their twisted mindest.

It was real anger.

WhyMafia · Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:07 am

Mulch your formatting though

WhyMafia · Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:07 am

In post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.

@Mulch what do you think of this post?

Mulch · Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:08 am

The thing is WhyMafia I agree that the semi replace out was sort of manipulative, but I also think he has a valid point, or at least one that could be naturally formed, that you sort of shifted the townread when everyone was townreading him for his replace out, when you shoulden't have in the first place. If a slot is scum it's scum etc. ALso, his entrance sort of felt like to me "I can't resist staying in just so we can lynch that scumfuck WhyMafia".

Mulch · Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:09 am

In post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.

1) I'm not unvoting you until you respond to EVERYTHING that I've asked you to that you refuse to give reasons for

2) This is shit and a subtle gladiation and it reeks of scum not wanting to take a side between two arguement

Mulch · Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:09 am

I think Alban and Whymafia are town, and scorpious is scum.

Mulch · Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:10 am

In post 1234, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.
@Mulch what do you think of this post?

Scum

WhyMafia · Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:10 am

In post 1235, Mulch wrote:The thing is WhyMafia I agree that the semi replace out was sort of manipulative, but I also think he has a valid point, or at least one that could be naturally formed, that you sort of shifted the townread when everyone was townreading him for his replace out, when you shoulden't have in the first place. If a slot is scum it's scum etc. ALso, his entrance sort of felt like to me "I can't resist staying in just so we can lynch that scumfuck WhyMafia".

I mean THE WHOLE REASON I RE-CHECKED CAUSE I FELT HIS FRUSTRATION/ANGER WAS GENUINE FIJRFHIRIHR

WhyMafia · Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:11 am

And yes, I agree with you regarding Scorpius being scum. Lol I probs look like an idiot changing my mind so much, but lynchpool is between scorp, awesome, and alban

Mulch · Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:12 am

I know but look at it from his theoretical PoV Whymafia.

And you look townier for changing ur mind

WhyMafia · Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:13 am

Alright. I'll think about Alban for a while. gtg for now but I think we're closer to having this game solved

Scorpious · Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:15 am

In post 1236, Mulch wrote:1) I'm not unvoting you until you respond to EVERYTHING that I've asked you to that you refuse to give reasons for

Go for it. Ill answer anything you would like to condense,and ask

I dont have time to be assed with reading the Mulch show..Especially over the weekend.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:18 am

VOTE: Scorpious

Mulch · Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:20 am

@Scorpious

In post 838, Mulch wrote:
In post 587, Scorpious wrote:
In post 559, Vedith wrote:How about Scorpios.
We can do a day where I pick the lynch, then you get to pick the lynch the next day?

You fake claim and have the gall to start lining up lynches?

VOTE: Vedith
This post in particular from Scorpious to rationalize the vote on vedith is really bad

In post 899, Mulch wrote:
In post 888, WhyMafia wrote:
In post 886, Scorpious wrote:
In post 851, Mulch wrote:I'd also loosely followed the game before I replaced IO- again, one of the reasons I came in was beacuse I knew IO was obvious town and I wasn't in the mood for a scum game atm lol

This looks so fake..
It does ..
but by PoE I town read Mulch

Keep trying, and make a better case!

explain

In post 941, Mulch wrote:
In post 940, Scorpious wrote:
In post 918, Mulch wrote:I've been trying as of late to not vote as much in games, mostly because it's actually developed as a scumtell that I don't change votes when I am scum and I want to eliminate that weakness in my game, and also because it makes townies for some reason scumread me for switching votes? even though it should be the opposites lmao and not just for me either

Some juicy self-meta here... mmm, delicious
Disgusting. You've pointed out two posts of mine out of 30 that I've made, and the two posts are the ones that can be construyed as typically scummy that actually aren't scummy, like self meta and pointing out that IO was obvious town. Comment on the rest of my posts, or make some advanacement of the game. This is the second time you've done it and it's starting to fucking annoy me

In post 942, Mulch wrote:
In post 587, Scorpious wrote:
In post 559, Vedith wrote:How about Scorpios.
We can do a day where I pick the lynch, then you get to pick the lynch the next day?

You fake claim and have the gall to start lining up lynches?

VOTE: Vedith
Respond to this shit vote

In post 949, Mulch wrote:
In post 946, Scorpious wrote:
In post 944, Mulch wrote:Scorpious, give me your read on me right now.

Leaning scum. Your posts seem calculated and well thought upon. Not in content,but in how they will be perceived.
Which ones?

In post 1062, Mulch wrote:
In post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?

Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?
Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I looked

In post 1077, Mulch wrote:
In post 1076, Scorpious wrote:Right now its a toss up between you,Alban and mm4
How Mario, and you need to give me the posts you don't like about me. And why don't you scumread Awesome, and why do you townread Llama?

In post 1086, Mulch wrote:
In post 0, Ircher wrote:
Welcome to Mini 1929!

Moderator: Ircher

^{Backup: Human Sequencer
Gamma Emerald}

Reviewed by: Fferyllt, RadiantCowbells, and Firebringer

Spoiler: Player List
1. Awesomeusername+
2. Vedith+
3.
Lil Uzi Vert+
WhyMafia+
4. Steel+
5.
Io+
Mulch+
6. Scorpious+
7. alban+
8. Tchill13+
9. Carcalilly+
10. MarioManiac4+
11.
I Am Innocent+*
Llamafluff+

Key: + = Confirmed, * = Prod, ^ = Prod Dodge,
Replaced

Spoiler: Alive Players (8)
1. Awesomeusername
3. WhyMafia
Lil Uzi Vert

4. Steel
5. Mulch
Io

6. Scorpious
7. Alban
10. MarioManiac4
11. LlamaFluff
I am Innocent
Spoiler: Dead Players (3)
2. Vedith,
Vanilla Townie
, was lynched day 1.
8. Tchill13,
Town 2-shot Vigilante
, was killed Night 1.
9. Carcalilly,
Mafia Goon
, was killed Night 1.

Spoiler: VC History
Dawn (Pregame)Dawn VC #0, Dawn VC #1, Dawn VC #2, Dawn VC #3

Day 1Day 1 VC #1, Day 1 VC #2, Day 1 VC #3, Day 1 VC #4, Day 1 VC #5, Day 1 VC #6, Day 1 VC #7, Day 1 VC #8, Day 1 VC #9, Day 1 VC #10, Day 1 VC #11, Day 1 VC #12, Day 1 VC #13, Day 1 VC #14, Day 1 VC #15, Day 1 VC #16, Day 1 VC #17 (HAMMER)

Spoiler: Event History
65: Day 1 begins!
113: Gamma Emerald replaces Human Sequencer as backup moderator.
395: WhyMafia replaces Lil Uzi Vert.
413: Warning not to discuss ongoing games.
520: LlamaFluff replaces I am Innocent.
808: Night 1 begins! Mulch replaces Io.
Llama explain your Alban townread, Scorpious explain your awesome townread

In post 1207, Mulch wrote:
In post 1087, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1085, Mulch wrote:Scorpious PLEASE respond to me

If you can be patient. I will..

Just got home from adulting.. wanna have a good double S,then I'll don the smoking jacket,and provide..

In post 1121, Scorpious wrote:What tbe actual fuck, bro?

In post 1203, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1200, Mulch wrote:VOTE: Scorpious

Sigh.. et tu brute?

All that nonsense,and you circle back to voting me..

Dude, i have a life.. check the sig

In post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?

Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?

In post 1068, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1062, Mulch wrote:
In post 1048, Scorpious wrote:Alban, how do you view Llama currently?

Who would you rather lynch between them and awesome?
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Scorpious I would love a reads list and also still am waiting for the answer to which questions of mine you felt I was overly preocupied to how I looked

Read lists are for scum

The first 3 are just him saying he will do stuff and he won't, the second and third is the type of useless "game solving" (ie, tons of questions, no analysis) that scum love, and a really townygrabby post respectively.

alban · Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:04 am

1. My anger was genuine. I was gonna replace out. Mod messaged me asking me to stay. It's probably been difficult for them to find a replacement. I am staying only coz of that. Not coz someone backed off. I am not sure if mod will do that, but I would really really like them to confirm that they personally asked me to stay.

Mod, please confirm.

2. Supposing it's a tactic, the only player who didn't allow that to affect his judgement was Mulch, who said that replacing out is NAI. Think as you may, but the only player who comes off as townie from last 24 hours is Mulch. Just you may think that I am scum, I will think that whoever got swayed coz of my replacing out is either stupid or scummy. I mean it's so nai that only a newbie will fall for it. Or a scum will use that to malign me after I came back. The way WhyMafia is doing now. In which world does a scum come back from the threat of replacing out, I dunno.

3. I think it's a great tactic to use as a townie and I am gonna use it more frequently to confirm towns in my future games. Like Mulch here.

alban · Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:09 am

In post 1236, Mulch wrote:
In post 1229, Scorpious wrote:VOTE: Alban

I dont like replacing/not replacing being used as a tactic. Also why are you staying now, because people backed off?

The push,and retraction from Whymaf seems fake also.. I would support that lynch to today.
1) I'm not unvoting you until you respond to EVERYTHING that I've asked you to that you refuse to give reasons for

2) This is shit and a subtle gladiation and it reeks of scum not wanting to take a side between two arguement

Scorpious's view on WhyMafia is valid. I don't think it's scummy.

ISO · Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:37 am

In post 1, Ircher wrote:1a. You are to assume good faith for all players that request replacement, regardless if you believe it to be a tactical replacement or not. It is the moderator's responsibility to investigate if there is reasonable evidence to believe it is a tactical replacement. Otherwise, suggesting such is disrespectful and unethical. Furthermore, it brings an outside influence into the game so just do not do it.

alban · Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:18 am

Thank you, Ircher.