Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[shaft.ed]

On a scale of 1-10, how bastardly do you want the game to be (10 = evil)? 7

On a scale of 1-10, how complex/unbalanced are you comfortable with roles being (10=lol)? 10

Rank these themes, in order from best to worst:
Historical Disfigurements
Things that don’t make sense
Authority Figures
Literary Characters
Existentialism
Pokemon, Digimon, & Harry Potter

Any other themes you might want to see come into play? LOLcats for Adel's sake

Any specific roles/types of roles you want to see in play? mafia aligned SK, NK immune miller vig

Any game mechanics? All of them

Want lots of flavor? Doesn't matter

None? If you don't feel like it

[shaft.ed]

Private answers still same.

[shaft.ed]

Paradox, NabNab and Adel are the scum. Did I win yet?

[shaft.ed]

How do we know we aren't already playing?

vote:cicero

for copying Adel.

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I wonder what would happen if 7 people voted for cicero before the game even started.

There's only 11 of us that means 6 to lynch go go!

But you run the risk of him killing me at the same time he makes me the doctor or something. :p I get the feeling that guardian has a bit of mischief to him.

Sad appeal to emotion for a role you don't even have. ObvSCUM. Why aren't more people voting cicero?

FoS anyone not voting for cicero

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There appear to be 12 of you... So 7 or so to lynch? Not sure... The vote counter will be here soon...

Why must the Mod always disagree with me. There are only 11 players here I swear.
>.>
<.<

If cicero really wants to be lynched that bad maybe he's the jester. I definitely don't want him to fulfill his win condition.

confirm vote:cicero

[shaft.ed]

If you hadn't figured it out yet I was joking.

vote: cicero

for not getting the joke

[shaft.ed]

bandwagon to victory!

unvote vote: guardian

I think if we lynch the Mod both town and scum win.

[shaft.ed]

Just because you have a double name doesn't mean you get to ignore my double vote!

So you're a double voter that sounds pro-town.

[shaft.ed]

As a mod, I'm deeply saddened by the lack of pre-game productivity. I am giving you this time for a reason.

Wait does this mean we are supposed to be guessing what's oging to happen, or holding a popularity contest to see who should be modkilled?

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DGB if this really is a bastard mod game, there's no way you'll be the auto modkill.

[shaft.ed]

you're a bastard?

[shaft.ed]

you're a bastard?

When I'm mafia, I lie.

I for one never lie when I'm mafia.

[shaft.ed]

I always lie when I'm not mafia.

So ABR is your alt

[shaft.ed]

You only like it because you were surviving scum. I prefer the game where someone else false claimed a Mason pair with Albert and he went along with it even though both were vanilla.

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I have a feeling that the pegs may signify something happens to a person when the reach 3 and 5 votes. In order to test that out.

vote: xyzzy

Also for a reference as to why I think suggesting and going along with poor stratagies can be a null-tell please read the first two pages of Open 57.

And

FoS NabNab

for his overly hard pushback of the claim supporters.

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I think you need to recalibrate your threashold for "hard". Voting someone for something you see as suspicious and stating your reasons is acceptably hard. Joining the biggest bandwagon just to see what happens is not.

Don't get your panties in a twist. I'll be moving my vote once the mod posts in game again. And I think you are confusing my use of the word hard. I did not mean difficult, I meant rigorous.

[shaft.ed]

Adel wins.

Either vote is #3 if I'm counting right. Might as well kill two birds with one stone.

unvote vote: Xtoxm

[shaft.ed]

You really like claiming don't you?

[shaft.ed]

Since I think I need to spell it out, please don't claim.

[shaft.ed]

Xtoxm[4] (hasdgfas, Lawrencelot, shaft.ed)
Adel[2] (Xtoxm, Paradoxombie)
Paradoxombie[2] (NabakovNabakov, Adel)
xyzzy[1] (Rogueben)

7 to lynch

Does anyone think DGB got a vote on her way out, or is the first person to 3 "blessed" with an extra vote?

unvote: Xtoxm

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wait scratch that "first to 3" idea, xyzzy was there first.

vote: Paradox

to see if he moves to 4.

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@shaft.ed: Your continued interest in experimental voting disturbs me. You seem to be searching for the most volitile voting pattern when we should be searching for scum. If I may ask, is this related at all to your role?

I really like to understand the underlying mechanics of the game. For some reason Xtoxm has an extra vote on him. And I'd like to see why it's there. I do think my idea of the 3 and 5 pegs is somehow related to the extra vote. So I am following up on the idea with another experiment by voting Paradox. The switch over to Xtoxm's was to see if anyone would be stupid enough to jump on the wagon seeing the support and the odd behavior at the time.

Adel, I totally got the antivote.

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In other news: wouldn't it be wise to first ask the mod if the extra vote was a mistake?

I don't think it's a mistake. It matches up with the 7 to lynch although only 11 are alive.

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Man I love long drawn out arguments about semantics [/sarcasm]

Paradox please answer the quesition. How is a D1 mass claim at all beneficial to the town in a set up where there is nothing to anchor roles on?

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OK so it looks like first to three votes gets an extra one. Not sure if that works for multiple players or not. I'm going to leave my vote until the next votecount to see if Lawrecnelot had a double vote. And then I will move my vote to someone without a vote to see if I might have a double vote. I also had no indication I would have a double vote in my role PM.

I don't think we should massclaim day 1, but why are you so sure there's nothing to anchor the roles on? Unless you know more than one.

Yeah this is a really tangible theme to anchor roles onto:

Things that don’t make sense will be our main theme... If something makes sense, be wary.

Historical Disfigurements figures to be a prominent secondary element...

And Existentialism will no doubt play a part -- when has Existentialism ever made sense anyway?

Authority Figures, Pokemon, Digimon, & Harry Potter, and Literary Characters didn't make the cut explicitly, though I would not be surprised if some or all of them wove their way into the game.

And you can bet that some themes not disclosed by me or suggested by you will have a great bearing on this game's outcome...

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Paradox, while I generally agree with you and have a townish vibe from your early posting, you take a hell of a lot of words to make your point. Re-reading you is going to be a bitch. Do you purposefully do this, or is it just your posting style?

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Guardian, I thought everyone was getting roles before you modkilled them. Does the lack of DGB's role reveal mean we won't be privy to such information in the future?

In regards to the role name claim. I agree with cicero for now, in that it seems like an idea to keep people busy and feel like we're moving the game forward. At this point I think it will be detrimental.

Also cicero, I'm surprised you have such a harsh interpretation of Adel's incentives to the claim, but don't find it the least bit suspicious that she is a major proponent of it.

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I think I misread you shaft.ed. I thought you were saying that you werent suspicious of Adel. But you are accusing me of not being suspicious of Adel?

That's stupid. Anyone not suspicious of Adel hasn't played with Adel.

No my point was you were saying 'OMG OMG Adel could do crazy things with a massclaim as scum.' Adel proposed the role claim. Yet you don't link the two. Am I wrong in connecting the dots there?

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I thought 242 was the first suggestion of a Name Claim. Correct me if wrong someone.

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OK, I'm still playing with the extra vote.

unvote vote: xyzzy

@Lawrencelot could you please vote for Xtoxm to see if either of us is a double voter?

I don't see any major harm or any major benefit in claiming whether or not our rolenames have anything to do with our roles. Guess it would generate discussion.

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Adel, I understand your want to actually play mafia and all, but could you wait until after the next votecount? By then we'll know if Lawrence or I have a double vote.

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Thanks Adel. And could everyone stop with the Harry Potter innuendo.

No I'm not talking about Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Bone

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Can I ask for no voting until the next vote count please, I know that causes people to not play correctly, but we need to figure out if 1) I have a double vote 2) lawrence has a double vote or 3) the first person to 3 gets an extra vote. Thanks, and paradox or rogueben can you please unvote. One more votecount and this should be worked out.

[shaft.ed]

Popcorn!

Caramel, buttered or white cheddar?

Sorry guys I should be trying a bit harder in this game. I've got two games in critical stages (that's about my capacity), so I'll be a lot more into this one in a bit. I'll go on record as saying I'm finding most of the conversation thus far to be mostly bickering about game theory and the meaning of words.

[shaft.ed]

Also it seems as though my vote testing is interfering with the flow of the game.

unvote vote: vollkan

This is purely to see if I'm a double voter

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Can we get a vote count first. I really wanna see if I'm a double voter, that'd make me so special.

BTW, I think Xtoxm is not so bright at this point, not sure yet if he is scummy or not.

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I'm just kidding Adel, the lynch will have a vote count attached so I'll know at that time. However, I'm leaning against an Xtoxm lynch at the moment. Have a deer in the headlights feeling regarding him right now.

[shaft.ed]

vollkan[2] (shaft.ed)

shaft.ed is special

Woot I knew all those years riding the short bus would eventually pay off.

unvote

I have nothing in my role PM that leads me to believe I would have a double vote. This leads me to believe that either the Mod randomly chose me, or (more likely) that someone has an ability that gives other people a double vote a la Dr. Who Mafia. Kinda weird that the lynch requirement would adjust accordingly.

so then what are those pegs for?

[shaft.ed]

And it only took me 14 pages to figure this out. I AM special.

[shaft.ed]

How is the joke in 318 helping to convince you he is scummy and not dumbtown?

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Maybe the blindfold? (sorry couldn't help it)

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I have a fireball in my hand, feeling lucky?

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OMGUS

you'd better not be a septuple voter.

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How is the joke in 318 helping to convince you he is scummy and not dumbtown?

Because that was when it appeared he was not serious about Adel.

Then why maintain the vote?

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WTF was that about?!!

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I need to find a better word for someone like this:

Newbie doesn't even begin to describe it.

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You guys are going to lynch. The only way to stop it is claiming. Lynch Adel.

You were at L-4, what the hell are you talking about?

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Stop rolefishing. I'll answer that if over half the people in the game want me too.

ROFL

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He's got to have some kind of weird posting restriction/win condition. That's the only explanation I can think of.

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I don't believe this claim at all.

Flavor?

Why are you trying to dig deep into the unforced claim that never should have come out?

I should have chided Adel on this too, but it was too busy laughing at the time. Stop making a bad situation worse.

FoS xyzzy
FoS Adel

[shaft.ed]

shaft.ed, a claim like that is extremely unusual, and knowing the rationale behind the rolename fitting the role will help us know if he' telling the truth.

I know it's unusual but is it scummy? Is there any reason that once the cat is partially out of the bag, we have to let it roam around the living room? Seriously I'd like opinions on this before people start pressuring Xtoxm to fully claim without discussion first.

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Current working hypothesis: Adel is scum who, unfortunately for her, was paired with Xtoxm. His constant "she's scum" with no backing is an incredibly bad attempt at distancing. Adel is being unusually quite towards Xtoxm hoping it will go away. Also tried to pin xyzzy as a possible scum partner for him here:

Also, Xtoxm, stop quadruple posting and start thinking about what you want to say before hitting submit.

I hope that nobody brings this up as an example of scum coaching jr. scum.

Thoughts?

[shaft.ed]

I don't remember you saying that you would claim if another vote was added please cite the post.

Why are you answering questions pages after they were asked even though yo uhave already posted numerous times in thread?

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viewtopic.php?p=957192#957192

I'm not. If i'm missing stuff sorry.

You did notice that you had net votes removed from you prior to Ben's vote?

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shaft.ed: if I follow your logic, then that means that Xtoxm should be the person lynched today. Did I miss something?

If my assumption is correct. Have to figure that out first.

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Adel why are you praying on the weak?

And I would also posit that the Pikachu business is about a deadline, but if someone is controling, that seems like a pretty cool role to have.

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So I take it you didn't trust his Doc claim.

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no doctor would claim that fast. ever.

I can understand that one. Unless he was reading oEJo's theorum in the MD.

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Well it looks like were waiting on Guardian. I'm still amazed Adel was able to pick out the OSV from Xtoxm.

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note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

I've got to agree with this sentiment. But claiming Doc as a SK is pretty unusual, if he's scum I'd expect mafia. Is Guardian ever going to updates us? He also had a pretty specific town claim "Things that don't make sense town" not simply town. If he is scum then they have safe claims for sure.

[shaft.ed]

Adel seems rather protown now.

For daykilling a player we don't know the alignment of yet?

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I have a feeling Guardian won't be telling us Xtoxm's alignment given how much time has passed since the kill. So we will probably have to proceed with the lynch without his info.

Alternatively Adel's daykill was a fake to test Xtoxm's and Guardian hasn't posted a death scene because he's not dead. This would be bolstered by the fact that Adel bothered analyzing his alignment instead of just waiting for Guardian to show up. Adel would it destroy your plans to confirm or deny?

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obviously not, he's still voting. I don't think a townie would leave the game like that.

vote: Xtoxm

[shaft.ed]

but he still get's like 72hrs where he has an excuse to not post.

Whoopdie freaking do.

Not comfortable enough to leave my vote(s) on Xtoxm while I'm LA and a weak case seems to be building. Removing for now will consider replacing them when I'm around more.

unvote

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Paradox, why do you feel the need to create this lurking argument? Yet at the same time hasdagas hasn't posted in six days and Rogueben has one post in the last six days yet no mention from you.

vote: Paradoxombie

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I'm not so worried about the actual lurking as much as how clearly contrived his actions appear.

His actions only looked contrived through your distorted perpective. If you take a clear look at his actions, they are readily apparent. Thus your actions are the ones that look contrived.

He should be at L-1 right now. I'd suggest a claim.

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Anyway appaently I'm dead. I guess I'll take the game off me watched topics list. Later.

Damn now it's going to be at least 72 hours til we get that claim.

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Hey, Adel, a request like that is really unethical and breaks the spirit of the game. Stop.

So did I lose my vote?

I agree, Adel please keep your argument with Seol to the MD.

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So, I too don't like the "lurking case" that paradox put forth on Xtoxm, but can anyone posit what the point was? It seems there was ample evidence to make a case against him without that contrived bit.

I'm going to

unvote

for now while I think about this.

[shaft.ed]

So did I lose my vote?

You haven't voted in this game from what I can tell.

[shaft.ed]

OK Xtoxm's you've been prodded and your posting in other games. Please come join the party.

vote: Xtoxm

[shaft.ed]

That was pre-game. I imagine his vote would be reset.

Xtoxm I was voting to pressure you to post, as I said.

So

unvote

Not sure where to go from here but we do have a deadline coming.

[shaft.ed]

So does he still know what he's doing paradox?

[shaft.ed]

Oh and Xtoxm which is it Doctor, or OSV?

[shaft.ed]

hunch

vote: xyzzy

(sorry vollkan)

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People with post restrictions are generally barred from saying they have one.

Are they forced to lie about not having them or do they just say "can't say?"

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no

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Adel why aren't you bandwagoning?

unvote

nothing came of that

[shaft.ed]

paradox she's talking about the mini, not the post number.

[shaft.ed]

The reasons to not lynch Para are related to my own role pm.

Can you elaborate without giving much info away?

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Hey all. I'm not V/LA but work and life are hectic for the next bit so my posting frequency, and specifically, depth - are going to be a little un-cicero. Enjoy the breathing room?

[shaft.ed]

Deadline will hit in 48 hours, minus 10 or so minutes, so there is no time zone confusion.

No votes placed after deadline will count.

Do you read

anything

?

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Look Xtoxm, you need to present a case against Xyzzy if you're going to call for his lynch so suddenly. All you've said about him thus far is:

I think a good lynch would be xyyzy.
...
No I don't think he's a good lynch, How about xyzzy

Really feels like you just pulled his name out of nowhere as you've hardly mentioned him before those two posts. Regarding your Daykill, I still have a feeling you and Adel are distancing. You seem to push on her the hardest lately due to the fake vig'ing but you haven't voted her since the mass claim incident.

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OMG, I think Xtoxm just pointed out something to me I didn't notice. Xyzzy

IS

lurking in plain sight.

[shaft.ed]

He's like Columbo

[shaft.ed]

If it makes you feel any better I'm 2 for 2.

[shaft.ed]

that being said, that he publically figured out that he was the one with double vote is pretty townie... if I had that ability as scum I would figure it out in secret... actually if I had that power as town I would figure it out in secret... so nevermind.

Yeah I think I'm dead tonight. Good thing there's about 18 doctors in this game according to my current projections *

wink

*

[shaft.ed]

Ah, that actually an interesting idea. You just reminded of a "vote giver" role that was present in the Dr. Who mafia I replaced into.

or (more likely) that someone has an ability that gives other people a double vote a la Dr. Who Mafia.

Again do you read the thread?


vollkan more interrogations please

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volkan, nabnab and cicero are all typically verbose players in my experience. xyzzy isn't.

makes me wonder...

Yeah I'm a bit uneasy with volk and nab at this point, but giving the D1 benefit of the doubt. Cicero has mentioned his absence and had similarly lower posting in other games.

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vote Rogueben

jumping onto a wagon after pretty much lurking throughout the day.

If you look at his vote pattern it's very much the path of least resistance:
Xtoxm, para, xyzzy.

Smells scummy to me.

[shaft.ed]

Mystery role is such an easy claim.

Do you think Guardian would put one in the game?

Guardian, you play/played IRC mafia?

I have a mystery role as well.

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@shaft.ed: congrats onm winning in our other game. Why do you think that a rougeben is:
1. possible before deadline?
2. more likely to lynch scum than xyzzy or para-zombie?


It seems possible to me that you are scum trying to find an excuse to not be on a townie's lynch wagon.

I have reason to believe xyzzy is telling the truth so I will not lynch him. Para is feeling scummy to me wo I would consider his lynch. But Rogueben just jumped out like a sore thumb with that vote, especially the reasoning (well shucks I wouldn't want to not lynch anybody today). He had been on the para wagon. At the time of his vote switch para was four xyzzy was four. Does not compute.

[shaft.ed]

who is this brian guy, sounds kinky

[shaft.ed]

Xtoxm: Then vote for him damnit. Adel too. I'll be on all day and can move if necessary to a lynch.

Unvote; Vote: Rogueben

(I realize this contradicts what I just said about clouded wagons, but I really do like this wagon better than the other two options, and I'll try to post a PBPA later today to make up for it)

Paradoxombie[2] (cicero, vollkan)
xyzzy[5] (Xtoxm, Paradoxombie, Lawrencelot, Adel, Rogueben)
Rogueben[3](Shaft.ed, NabNab)

10 on, 6 to lynch. If Xtoxm and Adel vote, we only have to pull one more vote to Rogueben or an unvote off the board.

I find vote counts to be a universal scumtell.

IGMEOY: NabNab

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Xtoxm: Then vote for him damnit. Adel too. I'll be on all day and can move if necessary to a lynch.

Unvote; Vote: Rogueben

(I realize this contradicts what I just said about clouded wagons, but I really do like this wagon better than the other two options, and I'll try to post a PBPA later today to make up for it)

Paradoxombie[2] (cicero, vollkan)
xyzzy[5] (Xtoxm, Paradoxombie, Lawrencelot, Adel, Rogueben)
Rogueben[3](Shaft.ed, NabNab)

10 on, 6 to lynch. If Xtoxm and Adel vote, we only have to pull one more vote to Rogueben or an unvote off the board.

I find vote counts to be a universal scumtell.

IGMEOY: NabNab

Your idea intrigues me. I would consider VC's acceptable at this point considering that we're walking a tightrope between lynch and no-lynch and mod VC's have been infrequent at best. In other words, the "universal" seems a bit strong

It is very hard to explain why this is a scumtell and I've really tried to understand why it would be. There's nothing scummy about posting VC's from what I can decipher. But I've seen about 7 or 8 players do it. And only once were they town. Most recently was Adele in Heroes smalltown. It's a wierd thing and may just be a fluke of my limited mafia experience, but I just wanted to note that.

[shaft.ed]

new?

[shaft.ed]

Is there a hammer in the room?

Don't we want a claim first?

Ding Ding Ding!

FoS Adel

[shaft.ed]

Is there a hammer in the room?

Don't we want a claim first?

Ding Ding Ding!

FoS Adel

and why didn't you FOS para-zombie for placing him at -1 to lynch without warning?


What claim would stop us from lynching him? Doctor? Cop? Lovestruck teen capitalist with delusions of happiness? Whatever... is there a jhammer in the room?

Fos

shaft.ed for fosing me and not para-zombie. The contradiction is clear.

He's actually at L-2. You apparently didn't know that and still want him hammered without recourse. And I have information for which I know particular role(s) are more likely town.

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The more I think about it the less I like Adel's play. I'm settling between a RB or Adel lynch for today. I think RB is more valid, but he has less interections so less information if we're wrong. Has anyone seen Link between RB and other's I may have missed?

[shaft.ed]

I still want a claim.

unvote

while I'm around.

[shaft.ed]

I still want a claim.

unvote

while I'm around.

Too late, Lawrence just hammered. (Perhaps a VC would have helped things out)

RB was at 5 in VC 11. Paradox voted him, that's 6. Lawrence votes - lynch.

Oh, and Xtoxm is bitching because his vote was on xyzzy

and

RB. Probably just mod error.

FoS

NabNab for not providing us with a votecount [/joking]

[shaft.ed]

Oh and obviously my previous exchange with Adel is null and void due to the fact that I can't count.

unFoS Adel

[shaft.ed]

re-enforced FoS

on shaft.ed

were you playing tricks omn the town to get an "accidental" hammer?

No I'm actually quite pissed at myself right now.

[shaft.ed]

Actually Adel I find it odd that you backed down on the point where I said Para was the L-2 vote when you were in fact right. That seems unlike you to back down when you know you are right.

[shaft.ed]

Bah final moments stop the insanity!

1) Sorry for the slip up on RogueBen, that was my fault.
2) Adel should have pointed out my error
3) Vollkan and cicero feel funny to me. Don't know what it is
4) I have an incling that Xtoxm is town.
5) Watch out for NabNab
6) I think I may be NK'd for the double vote
7) I am not Link

[shaft.ed]

I vow to never drive another D1 lynch, 0 for 3 now.

If we have a Governor please block the lynch.

[shaft.ed]

The only that comes to mind for me is that link being a vig makes sense.

He's 100% town

[shaft.ed]

not liking nab and adels enthusiasm

[shaft.ed]

is it possible that shaft.ed doesn't really have two votes? Could the TV have lied to us?

If that were the case than lynch would come at 6 votes.

[shaft.ed]

It's the (out of character) tag.

Vote count 12 was the final day 1 vote count.

No votes (or unvotes) will be counted until tomorrow

.

Not sure if I understand this correctly but

unvote

vote:Adel

FoS vollkan

for no posting

[shaft.ed]

Nibbler's skin is pure
Must post double bad today
Evil bastard scum

[shaft.ed]

Scum will know bad speak
Beware of fake restrictions
Nibbler's cape awesome

[shaft.ed]

I know xyzzy's goal
Nibbler has hard six pack abs
We are teammates here

[shaft.ed]

Nibbler has big shaft
I don't have opinion
on nameclaiming now

[shaft.ed]

I know xyzzy town
That is all I meant before
Silken Nibbler skin

[shaft.ed]

xyzzy Xtoxm
Larry RB and Nibbler
all great people

[shaft.ed]

RB please vote now
I think you are special and
Nibbler has hot buns

[shaft.ed]

Need to test two vote
Not sure if it is still mine
Nibbler eats all things

vote: Adel

[shaft.ed]

Careful with your votes
We may be at minus one
Nibbler rules the world

[shaft.ed]

Ben please choose other
You not want to overlap
Nibbler is love God

[shaft.ed]

I know no blocker
I gave Ben unknown power
I like Nibbler's socks

[shaft.ed]

Notice how NN died by choking on Gillyweed.

Makes me believe rule 9.75 a bit more and PX a bit less...And there do seems to be a lot of doc's...

vote Paradox

.

Daming is the weed
Bodes poorly for paradox
Nibbler nibbled her

[shaft.ed]

cicero how long
must you adulate our mod
Nibbler has great teeth

[shaft.ed]

Vote Count 13

It is still bright and early. The TV reads:

Paradoxombie[3] (Adel, Xtoxm, Rogueben)
Adel[1] (shaft.ed)

6 to lynch

nine alive six to
lynch does not add as normal
Nibbler has great ass

[shaft.ed]

My post above is
warning we have two voter
Nibbler has firm pecks

[shaft.ed]

someone unvote Dox
He may be lynched by one more
Nibbler smells quite good

[shaft.ed]

Ben I visit you
at night anything happen?
Nibbler's heart is big

[shaft.ed]

Scum blocker is a
possible explanation
Nibbler's feet smell good

[shaft.ed]

Yeh could be I guess. But in that case what did you do?

I know not what I
do maybe Ben knows of it
Nibbler has strong gluts

[shaft.ed]

Adel cicero
Para or has contain scum
Nibbler has great smile

[shaft.ed]

Paradoxombie
Why am I a confirmed town
Nibbler's breathe is sweet

[shaft.ed]

Rogueben

- He makes decent attacks against Para throughout the game. Other than that, he is fairly short on words.

45%

Below fifty is
hard reasons for it are poor
Nibbler has cute nose

[shaft.ed]

Volkan, is your vote still on Shaft.ed for any purpose other than wanting to see if you had a normal vote?

Yes.

Para had my highest ranking so I will

Vote: Paradoxombie

for now,

in the interests of avoiding No Lynch

.

But I am keeping an open mind on my other high-ranked.

This vote was far from
The deadline ending the day
Nibbler has tone calves

[shaft.ed]

NabakovNabakov

- His reasons for opposing massclaim are good. He also makes a strong attack against Para's stupid "equal but opposite" ideas. Nothing scummy here at all, and he is probably the most protown so far.

40%

vollkan the scum was
clearly worried about Nab
Nibbler has sweet kicks

[shaft.ed]

I'm pretty sure I'm some sort of post-restriction-giver - I targeted shaft.ed.

Why target is me?
Not who it's supposed to be
Nibbler makes great tea

[shaft.ed]

I can't think of anything more anti-town than being the hammer on an "accidental" lynch.

Your vote is misplaced
We had one the day before
Nibbler has keen eyes

[shaft.ed]

Adel's silence is
troubling don't like her play
Nibbler has soft hands

unvote, vote: Adel

[shaft.ed]

You did not respond
To my question of your vote
Nibbler cooks quite well

[shaft.ed]

Larry hammered Ben
You did not vote for Larry
Nibbler is quite smart

[shaft.ed]

My post restriction
Makes it hard to state a case
Nibbler has cute toes

[shaft.ed]

I will try later
No time today for such work
Nibbler's smile is bright

[shaft.ed]

I'd post a coherent sentence over the first two lines...

Try coherent in
exactly twelve syllables
Nibbler has nice abs

[shaft.ed]

Why do you persist
in deflecting my question
Nibbler cooks the best

[shaft.ed]

Nab has nothing to
do with Larry's hammer vote
Nibbler beds fine chicks

[shaft.ed]

Does anybody
out there understand my point?
Nibbler has cool hair

[shaft.ed]

@shaft.ed: which players do you think have been lurking since the beginning of this day?

RogueBen cicero
and xyzzy have posted the least
Nibbler types real fast

[shaft.ed]

cicero not so
much as the others mentioned
Nibbler makes good soup

[shaft.ed]

I'm pretty sure I'm some sort of post-restriction-giver - I targeted shaft.ed.

Why target is me?
Not who it's supposed to be
Nibbler makes great tea

I don't want xyzzy
to miss this post that I made
Nibbler is quite brave

[shaft.ed]

I'm pretty sure I'm some sort of post-restriction-giver - I targeted shaft.ed.

Why target is me?
Not who it's supposed to be
Nibbler makes great tea

I don't want xyzzy
to miss this post that I made
Nibbler is quite brave

xyzzyz post a lot
but not in this thread of ours
Nibbler has full lips

[shaft.ed]

wtf! I go out of my way to ensure that we don't get another "accidental" lynch, and you vote me for it.

Something here doesn't make much sense to me.

Adel is growing
on me she may yet be town
Nibbler bakes good cake

[shaft.ed]

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

Who is your proper
target via role PM?
Nibbler is astute

[shaft.ed]

Paradoxombie
Why am I a confirmed town
Nibbler's breathe is sweet

because I protected you last night, and I would be dead if you were scum.

Boy that sounds like it could be a scum role also. Mafia doctor who has to protect a townie? It's possible. I'm not saying it's the likeliest possibility, but in this game I could believe it.

Also,

why would you come out with your result immediately

upon the beginning of the day? Isn't that one of those things that you'd keep quiet about until he came under suspicion?

Para's play was right
Cow is looking more scummy
Nibbler good in bed

unvote, vote:hasdgfas

[shaft.ed]

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

Who is your proper
target via role PM?
Nibbler is astute

I have target too
Ours is supposed to be same
Nibbler has straight teeth

[shaft.ed]

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

Who is your proper
target via role PM?
Nibbler is astute

I have target too
Ours is supposed to be same
Nibbler has straight teeth

xyzzy I don't like
you avoiding my questions
Nibbler has big balls

[shaft.ed]

The meter still has twelve vertical holes, and pegs are inserted at positions 3, 4, and 10, counting up from the ground.

Whatever could these
pegs and holes be used to do?
Nibbler runs real fast

[shaft.ed]

Your sudden assurance in me yesterday piqued my curiosity, so I felt you were a safe target no matter what your alignment.

Who is your proper
target via role PM?
Nibbler is astute

I have target too
Ours is supposed to be same
Nibbler has straight teeth

xyzzy I don't like
you avoiding my questions
Nibbler has big balls

shaft.ed, if you won't stop being incredibly vague, I can't help you. Are you saying you have some sort of requirement to target the same person as me or something?

The hero is the
triforces' target at night
Nibbler writes nice prose

[shaft.ed]

did you not have this
info in your role PM?
Nibbler jumps quite high

[shaft.ed]

cicero silent
hell must be frozen over
Nibbler has tight ass

[shaft.ed]

Are you saying you're a triforce, shaft?

I am a triforce
I think the third should claim now
Nibbler has cool shoes

[shaft.ed]

And I don't get what you mean by target.

Target as in to kill?

I think you're fishing
the proper people should know
Nibbler's got full lips

[shaft.ed]

he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?

I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast

[shaft.ed]

he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?

I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast

xyzzy, why push for
a massclaim without target?
Nibbler reads real fast

[shaft.ed]

I will not claim which
triforce 'til third comes forward
Nibbler cooks good pork

[shaft.ed]

I have reason to believe a mass claim would be bad based on information provided by the mod - which makes me suspect rolefishers a great deal in this game.

I have contrary
reasons possible null tell?
Nibbler has fresh breathe

[shaft.ed]

xyzzy please answer
my questions about massclaim
Nibbler smells so sweet

[shaft.ed]

Massclaiming will not be good for town because I cannot be assured that other triggers do not exist in this game. I will not be name or role claiming at this point and recommend that others do not either. Especially with someone as claim hungry as Xyzzy is in the game.

Can you at least claim
or not claim to be Triforce?
Nibbler is so smart

[shaft.ed]

BOTD is Benefit of the Doubt.

Breadth of the Dying
play more diablo people
Nibbler has cool cape

[shaft.ed]

I'm not sure what part of "not claiming" is challenging to grasp tbh.

Ill take that as yes
fat people love diablo
Nibbler jumps real high

[shaft.ed]

Adel, I'll try it from the top off my head:
xyzzy: triforce of wisdom, mistery role. Targeted shaft.ed last night, probably gave him PR.
para: neville longbottom, sort of doctor. dunno if he said who he protected.
xtoxm: (napoleon?) dynamite, doctor and osv. Killed vollkan.
Lawrencelot: one-shot governor. Used D1 on Rogueben.
Rogueben: Link, forced vig. Targeted... Para, right?

does anyone concur with this list?

anyone?

There is more than that
Cannot post list in haiku
Nibbler has cute toes

[shaft.ed]

can you post list of
the post numbers as haiku?
Nibbler feltches well.

Don't like doing all
the work with double bad posts
Nibbler has long cock

[shaft.ed]

...This is getting boring...And I can't make out half of what Shaft's trying to say. And I think that cicero is pretty much cleared by the fact that Xyyxy seemingly gave Shat his PR, so cicero got his off volkan scum...

I have two PR's
Scum may give to eachother
Nibbler has soft hands

[shaft.ed]

2 definitively distinct PR's? As in you recieved A PR from 2 diff people?

...That's interesting...So cicero got his from a 3rd place...?

I got two unique
PR PM's from the mod
Nibbler is quite tall

[shaft.ed]

would somebody please
construct the claim table soon
Nibbler sings quite well

[shaft.ed]

I'm a triforce of
some type targeted RogueBen
Nibbler wears cool shoes

[shaft.ed]

xyzzy please answer
my questions about massclaim
Nibbler smells so sweet

How many times must
a question be posed to you
Nibbler runs real fast

unvote vote: xyzzy

[shaft.ed]

scum would not double
PR me xyzzy is town
Nibbler has firm arms

unvote

[shaft.ed]

he did claim triforce... safeclaim? shaft.ed, what is your opinion on it?

I no longer get
why xyzzy wanted massclaim
Nibbler runs quite fast

xyzzy, why push for
a massclaim without target?
Nibbler reads real fast

I do not get your
motivation for massclaim
Nibbler has huge arms

[shaft.ed]

Triforce of Power
is possessed by evil man
Nibbler has huge balls

[shaft.ed]

why on earth would a town-aligned shaft.ed reveal that? that is exactly the kind of information I sit on so I can catch scum.

That is pure flavor
Available to us all
Nibbler has nice eyes

[shaft.ed]

@cicero: what exactly is your post restriction? which posts broke that rule?

unvote, vote:cicero

Either not paying
attention or you are scum
Nibbler has tight ass

unvote vote:Adel

[shaft.ed]

cicero careful
I am close to death as well
Nibbler jumps real high

[shaft.ed]

Para why should we
not lynch you today discuss
Nibbler has tone abs

[shaft.ed]

I am not sure that
I can just repeat same one
Nibbler has smoothe lips

[shaft.ed]

I am one warning
Away from death very close
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

Again read PM
Repetition seems OK
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

seven three three and
seven four seven broke rules
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

I think Adel or
Para are the play today
Nibbler has cute eyes

[shaft.ed]

Para why Adel?
Adel why Para discuss
Nibbler has cute nose

[shaft.ed]

Prods please lots of them
Anyone want to comment?
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

worried about twice
voters appearing sudden
Nibbler has cute eyes

unvote

[shaft.ed]

Adel who was your
target last night please tell me
Nibbler has tone abs

[shaft.ed]

Adel what does not
make sense about your own role
Nibbler has tone abs

[shaft.ed]

why not one of the
claimed docs that would be better
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

her vanishing is
quite strange, I'd like more talking
Nibbler has cute eyes

[shaft.ed]

and I targeted a less likely target.

Which you still did not
address, so you trust two docs?
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

Para and Tom both
claimed Doc, you would have hit them
Nibbler has cute ears

[shaft.ed]

even more so if
you are also a doctor
Nibbler has nice eyes

[shaft.ed]

vote: Paradoxombie

for acting like scum since the break of dawn.

I ask again why
did you not target para?
Nibbler has nice legs

[shaft.ed]

fucker. was there some other way I could have avoided this lynch?

You are giving up
So haikuman took you down?
Nibbler has great skin