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Ginngie Jack of All Trades
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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Don't see any mod proof.In post 919, Ginngie wrote:I'm an IC dumbass
To eddie: for me, it's not meta that's making the townread, it's how genuine his pushes have felt to me.<Embrace The Void>
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Ginngie Jack of All Trades
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nancy Jack of All Trades
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I'm not really fit for mafia right now. Can someone ask me stuff or talk to me or something so I can try to get a foothold back in the game? I just feel lost and I need a hydra partner.
hi meet my mafiascum gravestone, the flowers were probably left by camn or schadd or Prism, blow them kisses for me would you?-
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Korts Luddite
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Just Robb and monkey, really. Both their pushes on Percy were terribly contrived.In post 917, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Now it's time to address this. I don't like it. He seems to be painting the people voting PS as scum no matter who they are.In post 893, Korts wrote:Okay, I'm finally sitting down to recalibrate. I'm gonna have to do this in portions though, because I have a bunch of other shit to deal with too.
VOTE: unvote
Reread notes - page 1-3 - The Percy wagon builds up
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Korts Luddite
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Page 4-14: Tchill wagon develops, Robb continues to tunnel Percy
- Monkey's switch to Tchill in 77 seems off when the entirety of his post was otherwise dedicated to arguing the points I made against him. He invites me to join the Tchill wagon instead of pursuing his case. It seems like deflection tactic.
- Robb's 108 makes a reasonable point about massive and Tchill's vote hopping, but the characterization of the Percy deal is all kinds of wrong. Robb says he didn't argue with her (???) and that he wasn't defensive, both of which sound incredibly incorrect from the outside perspective at least.
- Robb's continued insistence that the it-wasn't-RVS argument holds any water is frankly baffling. He brings up the game where he caught RC in the early game like it justifies his position here, but it really doesn't translate, not when the actual argument he's building on is so forced. The OMGUS accusation in 191 completely ignores his own scummy behavior, and the fact that Percy wasn't alone in pushing back for it.
- Tchill's response to pressure is so goddamn erratic. And ugh, the wifom thing.
PEDIT: haha you're such a goof Robb.scumchat never die-
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Korts Luddite
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Okay, here's the bullshit in 45, Robb.
An explanation was provided with the initial vote. The explanation was repeated at your request.In post 45, Robbnva wrote:I didn't argue anything actually. I asked you a simple question.
You chose to use something game related to vote me, asking you to explain your vote is perfectly acceptable response.
This is the bullshit part. You stick to the literal definition of RVS as strictly random, unjustified voting. Your entire case is built on the fact that Percy dared include a reason, which makes it not RVS, when you are well aware (you must be, you claim 10+ years of experience with this game) that the common use of RVS refers to arbitrary voting rather than essential randomness.you claim it was rvs, but according to my definition of rvs, it wasn't.
That you stick to "your" definition of RVS in the face of an entire town arguing against it shows that you don't have a cooperative scumhunting mindset, and are perfectly fine pushing a point nobody agrees with. This is how scum hide their votes from impactful wagons.
You are not such a special snowflake that your reactions wouldn't tell a stranger anything about you. This is just an attempt to discredit Percy's defense.Also I don't really buy the whole "see if his reaction would be useful" because you have to have a familiarity with me to know how I would react as town and scum, and you don't.
And like massive said at the time, this last sentence is incredibly condescending, as if your own play has been so impeccable.There hasn't been enough from you to determine if you are scum or town yet, so I won't put you at L-1 but you are definitely on my radar. Let's see if your play improves.scumchat never die-
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Idk why you wasted your time on that. My logic wasn't bullshit and nothing you say changes that. So you are either scum or a bad player deciding to waste time posting that garbage.
I'll go with scum cause you actually seem to be intelligent on the surface (plus I don't want to get banned for insulting people)Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Korts Luddite
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Korts Luddite
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Korts Luddite
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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massive Mafia Scum
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Man I wanna vote Robb but this
is just like POCKET WARNING DANGER WILL ROBINSON POCKET WARNING POCKET WARNINGIn post 933, Korts wrote: And like massive said at the time, this last sentence is incredibly condescending, as if your own play has been so impeccable."1AM .. not a good time to think I started mixing massive and mathcam" - Totem, DP8
"unvote mlaker; vote massive; It's like MeMe/mneme and Corsato/Cadmium" - Dragon Phoenix, Newbie 38
PLEASE NOTE: I actively avoid being online on weekends! Don't replace me just because of this!-
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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Robbnva I want you to put aside your tunnel for a second and tell me what you think of this post alone.In post 116, PersephoneSidekick wrote:
Basically, I did an "omg who the hell even is scum" reread after a day away and just sort of imagined myself as scum writing the posts that different people wrote and it fit the best. I didn't evenIn post 114, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Howdy folks!
What exactly is going on here? In your post 72, which was your last post in the game prior to this one, you were townreading Korts for the exact same reason. Now you scumread him based on a projection if your own habits...and in the same post criticize TChill for flipping his vote. Contradictions, thy name is Persephone. Can you explain what was going on there to makeIn post 91, PersephoneSidekick wrote:I think I still haven't done a good job explaining my thought process for the stuff that got me wagonned but it's not really that important so I'm just going to let it go.
I buy that Tchill's vote switch could have been a slip. Scum motivation: just trying to lynch somebody and forgetting your previous positions (less than two hours later!) because you don't really mean them. Town motivation: changing your mind as you see things without worrying about seeming consistent because you only care about finding the answer. Being willing to call your own actions scummy if you think you're part of a scummy wagon, because even though you know you're town you recognize you did something scummy and are willing to point that out to make progress. Conclusion: kind of shockingly sloppy as scum but slips happen. But if he can explain their switch to my satisfaction, I'd call it actively towny.
Bleh I have too many townreads. I actually kind of scumread Korts on tone/structure which is unfortunate because he's also the most helpful person. But like he'saggressivelyhelpful? Basically he reminds me of the "scumhunting" I did as scum in my last game. Jumping in early and responding to everything, trying to have lots of things to say when there doesn't exist much to say yet. I could vanity wagon him for it but I don't have that kind of confidence. I think I'll VOTE: Tchill because I really do want to force them to explain themself.youchange your mind?
Also your scumread of Korts and TChill's scumread of Korts are reverberating in my head. You two aren't scumreading him for the exact same reason, but both of them look like attempts to make good behavior look bad, and that's curious to me, mostly because I don't think it's likely you and TChill are both scum.lookat my own previous posts; I just read the stuff I missed and the isos of all the active people. I feel kind of silly now, and even less sure of myself obviously. I just if I spend all my time trying to be consistent and not look bad that will totally bias my thinking and I won't be able to actually come up with anything real.
I just have no squidding idea who is scum in this game. I have nothing. And I'm going to stop before I get into some sort of self-pitying rant about how I'm not good enough for newbie games. But like the reason I sound fake to everybody is that I'm trying to join a new community and fit in at the same time as I'm trying to solve a mystery and trying to decide which of my hypothetical new friends is trying to trick me. I just can't make my brain do those both at once very well.
Honestly playing scum was so much easier because all I had to do was get people to trust me. But now I'm going to be all sorts of things "town would never do" because I'm trying my best and don't know better. But I'm going to get lynched if I keep trying to pretend there's some deeper master plan to my inept flailings; it feels better to be read as scum than seen as incompetent but my wincon demands that I suck it up and admit to my actual stupid thought processes when people ask.<Embrace The Void>
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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I'm only going to be voting Eddie or korts today and since I haven't seen a vc in a while I'll stick with Eddie.In post 940, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hey Robb how about you switch to the wagon with more supportProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Eddie Cane Jack of All Trades
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Gamma Emerald AnySurvivorAny
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@Robb most recent one. Not including your vote, Korts has two while Eddie has none.In post 875, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Civilization Mafia Mafia:
Votecount 2.36:
humaneatingmonkey (4): Dark Horse, Sunlit Diamond, Grendel, Eddie Cane
Tchill13 (2): massive, Assemblerotws
Eddie Cane (1): Robbnva
Assemblerotws (1): Ginngie
Korts (1): Tchill13
Robbnva (0):
Grendel (0):
massive (0):
Sunlit Diamond (0):
Ginngie (0):
nancy (0):
Dark Horse (0):
Not Voting: nancy, humaneatingmonkey, Korts
With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch.
The day has begun and will end in (expired on 2017-08-29 23:00:00).
Seeking replacement for Sunlit Diamond.
Spoiler: Remaining Posts:<Embrace The Void>
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Good call. Cause it was stupid when you used it. Definitely nobody should sheep that logic.In post 941, massive wrote:Man I wanna vote Robb but this
is just like POCKET WARNING DANGER WILL ROBINSON POCKET WARNING POCKET WARNINGIn post 933, Korts wrote: And like massive said at the time, this last sentence is incredibly condescending, as if your own play has been so impeccable.
Condescending is my personalityProudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.-
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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Robbnva Jack of All Trades
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@gamma that post is just AtE garbage. Why can't scum make that post? Why does it make that slot town?
Let's ignore how obviously scummy PS was. What has Eddie done that's town?
@eddie. If you are town you are more annoying. You Troll the fucking game and get mad cause somebody scum reads you for it.Proudest mafia moment was the greatest unvote in the history of mafiascum.
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