Mini 1942 - Switchboard 2 [Game Over]

[Aubrey]

The paranoia that I am being pocketed is real.

My pocket is all that I can give you for your birthday! Luckily it's a nice high-end town pocket, and not some off-brand scum pocket. Happy birthday dude!

Though now I read it again, he shows he was keeping up, because he mentions the fact that LUV hates his catchups.

If I read that right; he was promising to read, but not to expect him to comment for a bit. He mentions Uzi because I assume they have played together, and Uzi hates walls of text. Especially one like Fitzs.

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Why the hell am I up at 3am...

[Keychain]

I thought it was because of 800, where LUV explicitly said he wasn't reading Fitz's ISO because of them (at the end).

Also go to bed. Sleep is great. You should do it.

[Realeo]

Do you know that birthday is just a social construct to make you feel happy for approaching eternal decomposition?

If human can be deceived with a simple notion to make them forget about existentialism, we will achieve nothing.

.....

WE ARE GOING TO DIE! EVERYONE PANIC!

[Radical Rat]

Happy Birthday Realeo!

And don't worry, clearly you're immune to the ruse seeing as you're now in an existential crisis

[Radical Rat]

@LUV

I don't think you would have needed to convince the rest of the scumteam necessarily.
Chickadee could have been the planned kill already when you dropped in. Or you could have brought it up and they agreed without issue, agreeing that keeping someone who can read you so well in the game is a liability. Or maybe you Did have to come up with this scheme and sell it to them, but it's not the only way. It's also possible that the opposite happened, where Chickadee waa their chosen kill and you tried to convince them NOT to kill her because you were afraid of how it would look, but failed, and tried to preemptively cover yourself.

My issue however is less that Chickadee was the kill... But rather that your initial reaction to it was to assume you were chosen to be framed before even your first post. Had you said this AFTER someone tried to push that you killed her because you were afraid of her gf senses, I'd be more inclined to consider it.

[Flubbernugget]

Yeah town reading is legit it ends up being what I have to do a lot.

But even then scummiest just ends up resolving to least towny so iai has a point.

Yep, this.

I don't get it.

Saying I like none of those 4 wagons != I don't know who is the scummiest.

You should Uhhhh

Probably clarify that point then

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@KC:

Ah. Okay, I see where some of the confusion is coming from. Yes I did read the post which entailed Chick being the night kill. I honestly don't know why I didn't feel like me being replaced in was being made aware for the first time. I simply thought the moderator restated it publicly for formality. I'll accept that you may not be willing to believe this.

I said that because I was wavering on my read on you a bit because of your recent interaction with Nos. Also based on what I read. Moj's play style would make things difficult for me if I were scum.

I assumed it because I think it is assumption most people would make. I'm a very difficult read on this site so anything from my usual greeting to my use of gifs to point to me as any alignment is often used.

If I know my girlfriend can read me well, wouldn't I also know how to manipulate her because I know the reasons she often uses to town read me? Chick gets mislynched often and is foolishly seen as bad or scummy. It would not mean a damn thing.

It's not. I don't believe town pushes this and I explained earlier why I had doubts about my scum read of you.

You're still not explaining why I come out and say the kill was to frame me. If my predecessor was seen as null, scum are either going to want to remain there or slightly town read. Do you seriously think this was worth me risking my position for? You believe it to be a mistake yes? So you think I decided to just do this on a whim without discussing with my partners? Or if you think I discussed this with my partners, you think 3 people decided this, as in me suggesting I enter the game for the first time with that theory was a good idea? Seems very unlikely to me.

I think it is foolish for you and Rat to suggest I would make a mistake of this magnitude as scum.

@Rat: I would definitely fight against it but again, considering that my predecessor was null read or not suspected, why do I take the risk of potentially drawing suspicion to myself? If you believe it was a mistake, consider that I'm widely considered a good scum player.

[Flubbernugget]

Regardless of how the time line of events played out, LUV is still ultimately trying to discredit the reads of a player that can supposedly read them well

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Vote me then.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

You discredited all of her reads and far worse than you think I did.

[Flubbernugget]

1) I'm voting for aubrey
2) My reasons actually make sense

[I Am Innocent]

What is your feeling?

If IAI scumread because I have "no scumread out of 4 people?", why IAI does not scumread fitz since he have "no scumread out of everyone?"

I mean, sure, fitz has activity issue, but doesn't he is supposed to carry scumread from D1?

No that was just the icing on the cake. I like how you minimize all my other concerns about you:

Your pushes on Allo and Moz D1
Your "why is nobody looking at me" instead of scumhunting, similar to the example I provided about scum syndesis in a recent game with her
Your turning off someone N1
Your admittance to continuing to turn off people future nights when it is in town's best interest to turn on town power roles and catch the 1+ scum that is turning off power roles each night.

And then finally, when pressed on which wagon you would join if nothing changed, 'hmmm....not sure. Need to think about that.' After 1000 friggin posts, yeah not buying it.

But nice shade.

[havingfitz]

probably will ISO everyone on the moz wagon first with priority on {fitz, mjoll, flub} since those were chick's last scumreads,

Did these ISO's you mention 10 days ago ever take place?

fitz has been hiding behind setup spec for awhile now

I haven't mentioned setup spec since D1 in August. I've been absent...but saying I've been "hiding" behind setup spec is a bit misrepresentative and shady.

[I Am Innocent]

I claim that I am not omgusing since I already state my intention

IAI

What intent, the one here:

So this is what the vote count should look like, if those who are pushing their respected targets would just vote already. @Realeo, where should you be placed? It'll be fun to see where Fitz decides to go, whenever he comes back to play.

Outside those four wagons. I just have a programming competition so I don't have the brain power to make a decision yet.

But you know how I feel about fitz and IaI.

Which occurred after I hinted at intent your way:

I've noticed that Realeo tends to make an actual post, then a bunch of useless posts, like 951 and 955

Yeah he tends to do that. I think that's just him as a person though.

Hey lil, sounds like u know realeo better than most here, what do u make of his flipping off N1 followed by his I'm going to keep doing it cause it's optimal play, despite me showing why it's not. The last thing I'm willing to do is give scum an out for flipping off switches, so I'm leaning heavy towards realeo being scum right now.

That an my ongoing catch-up shows realeo pushed for both moz and allo day 1. I remembered the allo push but not the moz push.

Need to look into a few more players interactions with allo and moz, and will also see what lil has to say before I cast my vote. Real soon tho I promise.

Cause your last read on me prior to that was a POE scum read...by far, nothing definitive:

I feel pretty good about IaI, Nos, and Realeo

IaI? How?

What's suspicious about IaI?

It's more to "I can't really find any alibi to make IaI town so I kinda default to put it in my scum pile"?

Long story short, no I'm not claiming you were OMGUS. I personally don't think that is a scum tell anyway. But your noted concern about your vote being perceived as such, especially since the order of things don't line up as you are pretending, is reason number 6(?) on why I'm pretty certain you are scum.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 2x3 ::

Realeo (3) -

Allomancer, Mjollnir, I Am Innocent

Aubrey (1) -

Flubbernugget

Lil Uzi Vert (2) -

Radical Rat, Keychain

Flubbernugget (2) -

Aubrey, Nosferatu

I Am Innocent (1) -

Realeo

Not Voting (2) -

Lil Uzi Vert, havingfitz

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline for Day Two is in (expired on 2017-09-22 14:49:32).

[Realeo]

Cause your last read on me prior to that was a POE scum read...by far, nothing definitive:

Why is a POE scumread is not a legitimate thing for me to vote you? Idontgetit.

[Realeo]

Like, your entire scumread first is that you don't buy that I don't want to vote the wagon--now I am supposed to have a definitive scumread?

So for you, it is just a game of me not fulfilling your expectation

I don't understand why you impose way on how am I supposed to play

when you have zero meta at me

?

[havingfitz]

those who pushed/voted allo & moz

Did you determine who was in this group?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

1) I'm voting for aubrey
2) My reasons actually make sense

I don't even know why you're voting Aubrey.

[Realeo]

And then finally, when pressed on which wagon you would join if nothing changed, 'hmmm....not sure. Need to think about that.' After 1000 friggin posts, yeah not buying it.

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ACCUSING ME OF LYING ABOUT REAL LIFE?

WHEN I MAKE THAT POST, I HAD A COMPUTER COMPETITION. IT LASTED 5 HOURS LONG. I DON'T HAVE THE BRAIN CAPICITY TO MAKE THE DECISION AFTER THE TEST

THIS IS MY COMPETITION BUNDLE. 21 PAGES LONG



THIS IS PROOF THAT COMPETITIVE PROGRAMMING LAST 5 HOURS

I AM SORRY IAI, BUT I AM NOT A LOSER WHO WOULD LIE FOR A GAME.

[Realeo]

THIS IS THE SCORE BOARD. MY TEAM FINISHED 13TH

THIS IS THE LIVE TWITTER FEED COVERING THE TOURNAMENT

HAPPY?

[Realeo]

I like how you minimize all my other concerns about you:

Your pushes on Allo and Moz D1
Your "why is nobody looking at me" instead of scumhunting, similar to the example I provided about scum syndesis in a recent game with her
Your turning off someone N1
Your admittance to continuing to turn off people future nights when it is in town's best interest to turn on town power roles and catch the 1+ scum that is turning off power roles each night.

SO WHEN YOU ACCUSE ME, I AM SUPPOSED TO JUST ACCEPT IT?

OF COURSE NOT. I DEFEND MY SELF.

WHEN YOU ARE BEING ACCUSED, YOU ARE ALSO EXPECTED TO "MINIMIZE THOSE CONCERN" AS WELL.

[Realeo]

Your turning off someone N1
Your admittance to continuing to turn off people future nights when it is in town's best interest to turn on town power roles and catch the 1+ scum that is turning off power roles each night.

*Calms down*

And this stupid shit again.

I already explained that I can turn off scum. You just "No. No. No. You are an idiot. Scum must be an idiot so you are scum."

Why am I supposed to trust you that turning on players is the best move when the best thing you can do to defend your idea when being countered by another idea is by scumreading me?

There is something called Ad hominem is that when I attack your idea with my idea, instead attacking my idea to defend yours, you attack my alignment.

That's not how logic works.

Well, you can turn on Allomancer! A conf town.

But I have a shitty priority number. If mafia is higher, I'm a lost cause. Someone with a better priorty number should do it.

[havingfitz]

I'm more concerned that no one tries to sort my slot. Am I not a threat for mafia? Am I potential back-up mislynch? Do people genuinely have no issue with me?

Mafia would never cry out for this type of attention so I would put you in the suspect pile. Congrats.

Fitz, when you can, could you fix this asap?

Why yes.

Coming from the guy with only two scum reads (one of which that flipped town)?...

I want either IaI or Fitz but I was tired mentally at that point.

What do you "want?"

VOTE: IAI

nvm the what. Why?

I mean, sure, fitz has activity issue, but doesn't he is supposed to carry scumread from D1?

What are you talking about?

WE ARE GOING TO DIE! EVERYONE PANIC!

Not till the 23rd iirc.

Reads--
Town: Me of course.
Leaning town: Aubrey, IAI, MJoll, Keychain
Slightly less leaning but still leaning town: Radical Rat
???: Formerfish
Suspects: Nosferatu, Realeo, LUV

VOTE: Realeo

[Realeo]

I want either IaI or Fitz but I was tired mentally at that point.

What do you "want?"

CAN YOU FUCKING READ? THE EXPLANATION IS LITERALLY ABOVE YOU?