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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:36 pm

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I do. Oh, how I do... It's true. The world may be destroyed by the coming of the dark god. Then again, it may not. I question the way in which our society is designed. No matter what strength a person has, it is the station he is born into that controls his destiny. And you cannot control where you will be born. Do you believe that a person of low birth should simply endure the curse of his station? I think not. If you are stronger than those around you, you should benefit from your strength. This is why I will use my strength to remake this world. Class and rank will not matter. Human and sub-human will not matter. The strong will possess everything. The weak will submit to their will. Is this not the meaning of peace?


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Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:38 pm

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If you possess the strength to do so, then so be it. That process is the principle on which my ideal world operates.
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Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:40 pm

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Not me, certainly.

Why should I not be free to do as I please? Who is going to stop me?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:42 pm

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Not that I advocate for inbreeding, as it results in feeble and worthless offspring. But those who have the strength to make their own decisions should do so freely.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:43 pm

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You? Find scum me on Day 1? Pah! Trivial. You're not worth the effort it would take to kill you.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 4:57 pm

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I feel a lot more free to do random shit as town than scum.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:02 pm

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VOTE: Morph the cat

Serious vote.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:03 pm

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Cabd's drunkenness felt way, way played up and I find it kind of weird that Ffery didn't say anything to me about the roleplay and instead went serious mode trying to 'sort' SS.
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Post Post #56 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:10 pm

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Yeah I like my vote.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:11 pm

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In post 57, morph the cat wrote:Why did you expect me to comment on your roleplay?
Less -absence of one specific thing- and more -specific thing that existed felt wrong-
In post 58, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 56, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Yeah I like my vote.
But you don't like to answer questions?
No?
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Post Post #64 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:14 pm

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Chickadee if you haven't unvoted in 5 minutes I'm voting you and not unvoting.
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Post Post #65 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:14 pm

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Don't enable scum to get rid of a potential town ability as a joke please.
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Post Post #69 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:18 pm

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In post 68, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 65, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Don't enable scum to get rid of a potential town ability as a joke please.
This is phrased weirdly

I don't think scum would be more likely to place the damaging vote than town would, for the exact reason that whoever did so would (rightfully) receive the actual heat for it.
It would be very easy to get away with placing an 'RVS' vote on Arcade Pals and saying that you hadn't read anything if you were scum just getting to the thread.
Obviously town can just not read and vote the hydra but I don't want to risk Chickadee being scum enabling exactly that.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:20 pm

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I am not Raskolnikov
What makes you so sure it's a town ability?

Scum have just as much incentive to publicize that information.
If it's a scum ability scum aren't going to be manipulatively hammering it and I don't want it to get accidentally hammered while they're 10/13 odds to be town?
I even said potential: why are you acting like I'm treating them like locktown because I don't want them to lose an ability for absolutely no reason?

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Post Post #86 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 80, Something_Smart wrote:And yeah RC is acting strange but it's still clearly RC so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Acting strange how?
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Post Post #93 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:32 pm

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In post 89, Something_Smart wrote:Stilted is not a bad word for it. You're being aggressive in an annoyingly hard-to-reach way.
Do you think this is a scumtell?
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Post Post #102 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:38 pm

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Why do you keep implying that I'm Raskolnikov imitating RC
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Post Post #104 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:39 pm

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Like what is the point of this line of reasoning
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Post Post #106 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:39 pm

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That is the subtext that I am getting.
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Post Post #109 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:43 pm

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No I just think its weird that that's the direction you go as opposed to RC is scum opening awkwardly, especially when you reiterated a vote on me.
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Post Post #110 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:46 pm

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With Titus I have masqueraded as my Hydra partner and vice versa and the way you're talking about it makes me feel like someone might have told you in scum PT that that was a thing.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:53 pm

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I don't think that unconsciously slipping something like that in the way you did would qualify you as being 'blatant' scum, especially when you could have gotten that info from any source.
Do you consider yourself exceptional scum to the point that you'd never unconsciously slip information like that?

Why shouldn't I have taken my vote off of you when I was using it to threaten Chickadee?
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Post Post #115 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:54 pm

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Also: Drunken!Cabd said that I was scum on like page 1 when I had only posted roleplay stuff?
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Post Post #117 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:56 pm

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In post 116, morph the cat wrote:
In post 60, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 57, morph the cat wrote:Why did you expect me to comment on your roleplay?
Less -absence of one specific thing- and more -specific thing that existed felt wrong-
I'd like you to expand on this if you don't mind.
I don't have a clear picture of what to expect from you given that I don't think that we've ever played together but your opener felt wrong.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:58 pm

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Sorry was I missing the part where scum decided to all open on me?
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Post Post #123 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:04 pm

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In post 120, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 119, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Sorry was I missing the part where scum decided to all open on me?
I'm town.
Then don't vote me.
In post 121, morph the cat wrote:
In post 114, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I don't think that unconsciously slipping something like that in the way you did would qualify you as being 'blatant' scum, especially when you could have gotten that info from any source.
Do you consider yourself exceptional scum to the point that you'd never unconsciously slip information like that?

Why shouldn't I have taken my vote off of you when I was using it to threaten Chickadee?
I'm not exceptional scum at all. I'm cautious, reserved, play-inside-the-town-envelope scum. Though I stretch that envelope pretty far in this hydra.

I think most of my hydra partners have pretended to post as me (usually for humorous effect). I don't find that sort of goofing around in RVS phase odd or suspicious.

I thought it was odd that you were scumreading ME, though, especially if it was off my not interacting directly with you when my hydra partner was lurching around and 1v1ing you on page 1.
Both your openers felt forced, and scumreading you isn't necessarily that you didn't interact with me it's more how you interacted with Cabd tbh?
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Post Post #125 (isolation #26) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:07 pm

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Like Cabd's off doing all this -stuff- and you start townreading SS and don't interact with anything that he's done.
Also,
gravitas
is one helluva choice of words.
I would if I thought you were on my team but I dont.
That's your problem, not mine.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:09 pm

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Also, Cabd calling me scum while he's as drunk as he's acting isn't really a scumread and calling it that feels weird.
Not if you're lynched.
I have no intentions of getting lynched and if I have to claim you are going to die 100%.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:13 pm

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I'm not sure, given that I've never been in that position before. If you're town obviously my interpretation was wrong. But it felt like that's not what you'd do.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:21 pm

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In post 132, morph the cat wrote:You feel ~cautious~ to me. From what little I saw of your play this summer -- mostly in newbie games -- cautious isn't a descriptor that came to mind.
I suppose that's not an unreadable description.
Would you agree that ~cautious~ isn't a descriptor that comes to mind as either alignment?
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Post Post #138 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:27 pm

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Fmpov I don't want to overcommit to the game right now in short because I was hoping that we'd have the chance to play multiple day phases.
Expect me to do a lot more policing of obviously poor decisions than trying to lead town directly.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:33 pm

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Post Post #144 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:42 pm

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Aww. I feel special. I wasn't planning to stay up late either :oops:

I agree that SS is probably town unless they're scumbuddies with you specifically and you planned that out. It did feel pretty genuine.
Twoinamillion despite his awful vote on me I would say is more likely than not town? like that was bold as hell and he would be very wary of me after our last game.

Arcade pals I don't really have a read on
Chickadee can be scum?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:45 pm

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Activate 9 against Player 10- Drixx please.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:47 pm

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In post 142, morph the cat wrote:I saved interacting with you for after the loud noise went away to sleep it off. Seemed the more productive approach.
Wow poor Cabd
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Post Post #151 (isolation #35) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:54 pm

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I don't think I got to play with Monkeyman much?
Tbh 2013-2014 stuff sorta faded away. I still vaguely remember some of the games but Mafia didn't have the same impression on me until 2015.

What are your thoughts on Chickadee? Do you agree that she might have been playing up the playfulness to mask pro-scum play?
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Post Post #154 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:57 pm

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Gerry made no impression on me. They could be scum I guess.

Porkens have you noticed that Drixx completely stopped posting in thread when people started calling them scum?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:02 pm

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Alright. I'm going to go to bed though. Goodnight :]
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Post Post #159 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:05 pm

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...So what you think I'm lying about how much I remember from mafia in 2013 and 2014? @_@
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Post Post #172 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:07 am

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I mean you straight up said it's typical Maria (NAI) so not at all sure why you town read that and it feels like a lazy townread.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:11 am

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Why am I mad king fuck face?
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Post Post #175 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:02 am

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Hiya folks

I hate dissonance so I'm not going to make judgement-statements until we consolidate
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Post Post #176 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:11 am

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In post 100, morph the cat wrote:Interesting.

If I were hydraing with someone who used -this- for emphasis and it were a unique aspect of their posting, I'd probably adopt it at least for that hydra.

But, that's me~
Wait what's the scum motivation for this?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:15 am

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@Chikadee how deep exactly is your maria meta?
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Post Post #181 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:42 am

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Okay so our concern with morph is how they have not much experience with RC and none with me but are trying to like stylistically judge posts as one head vs another. If you do know someone then it does makes sense as an approach but I'm not sure spectating a few games of one head could give someone that impression?

We're more interested in why Cabd apparently scumread us though.

Chickadee's an RC meta read but I'm not impressed with her posts either. She is just kind of there and even her read on maria doesn't match any of my maria meta where she blatantly trolls as scum.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:59 am

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Actually I want everyone who hasn't already to comment on both chickadee and the morph/ourslot interaction.

Porkens initialize 2.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:50 am

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In post 185, morph the cat wrote:RC and Cabd have a fair bit of recent game experience. My experience is more one-off (I modded/backup modded some newbie games he played this summer), but I'm not inexperienced with him.
Reading I got the impression you were pushing the angle about heads and you say right after you don't know RC well.

Unless the implication is that was a cabd post though? Is that what
Note the tilde in that post. That's a Cabd-ism.
this meant?

But you said he passed out by then in 66 ??
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Post Post #190 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:55 am

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In post 184, morph the cat wrote:Sleepless tunnel vision. The RC hydra is a shiny thing. Rereading today, I kinda feel like RC was trying to drive a little wedge between Morph-heads.
What did I do that gave you that impression and why would I want to do that?
RC head, I'm curious what your meta on me is based on? I know we've had a few games together. I can think of like 2-3 off the top of my head. I don't recall you reading me correctly though.
I did just call out your entire scumteam in a game where I called out only like 5 people then you nightkilled me because we didn't have a single protective.
Further I think you're ignoring the fact that I never scumread you in 1788: I went along because there were a lot of strong personalities on town and I didn't feel like fighting for every lynch.
I feel pretty confident in my ability to read you here: both in terms of my ability to catch you out if you're scum and my ability to figure out I'm wrong if you're town.
Do you think that I should be townreading you here? Do you have any scumreads out of the people who've already posted?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 8:08 am

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In post 191, morph the cat wrote:There is no way that RC could say that about our hydra as a whole. And I think he's probably at least nearly as aware of my recent play as I am of his recent newbie games. He reviewed and spectated my first game back after a year+ break - in this hydra. He replaced into my third game back, and though I doubt he read much about the game he immediately engaged me - again, in this hydra. But, that amount of meta-gathering pales compared to the amount of meta he and Cabd have together just this summer.
I didn't say this about either head. I think that you have plenty of context in order to judge how I play. I just thought it was weird that that's immediately where you went: though if it's something that you've done with your own hydras it makes a lot more sense that you saw that as a possibility.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:23 am

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idk what's going on anymore

Between catching up, the hydra stuff and then all the meta on top of it I'm not attempting to rewind anything or do spooky manipulation around your hydra dynamic (ironically since this is kind of being dysfunctional).

I just thought it was weird for you to go there but I guess it's understandable when there's more between you guys than I thought and with your own hydra having that style thing? We haven't played together in 2 years and I know I haven't played with either of you like ever so it stuck out to me when you were saying I was posting his posts when you don't know me even if you didn't intend it as in any way negative.

I'll try to avoid kind of speaking on his behalf when it comes to some of the more complicated head-on-head meta and history stuff from now on though.

Even dropping all this though do you know why cabd says he scumread us?
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Post Post #199 (isolation #50) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:33 am

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In post 193, gerryoat wrote:god, i can't believe I'm saying this but meta is literally the worst thing on this site. "___ doesnt do this as ___ because ____ meta is ___" is all i've been seeing lately, it's annoying af
Yeah throw in hydras and heads metaing heads and things get kinda cancer

Speaking of meta where's my good friend creature at he's the only person I kinda know here...
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Post Post #200 (isolation #51) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:34 am

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Hey am I not good enough for you baby?
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Post Post #202 (isolation #52) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:36 am

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I want to intercede and say that this is a teaching hydra and Raskolnikov asked me to let you guys sort things out.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #53) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:43 am

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I'll be back and say things in ~40 minutes.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #54) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 194, morph the cat wrote:Characterizing Cabd's drunkplay as a put-on, for one. I felt like that was an attempt to make me feel defensive about something I had no way to address. And that's a line of attack that has happened before to this hydra (not about drunkplay by either of us, but in terms of where the seams where our playstyles don't completely mesh) though it's usually by someone who actually knows our dynamic as a hydra and knows quite well where the disconnects in our approaches to the game actually are. You missed the mark there, but it did feel like you were aiming for it.
I've played mafia super drunk to the point of fakeclaiming terrible guilties drunk and I was far more lucid than Cabd was. I think that his drunkenness was played up regardless of situation. I don't think that necessarily makes him scum: it's the kind of thing that can be fun. But at the time I disliked some stuff in your openers and felt like doing something with it.

Even if I were scum that's not a mark that I would seek to hit and I don't understand why you would think that's a decision I would consciously make as either alignment here. Not for absolutely no reason at the start of the game, maybe if one of you was townreading me and the other wasn't and I really needed their votes.

But even then I try to avoid setting hydra heads against each other as scum because it makes games unpleasant.
I also felt like you tried to characterize my side of our dance last night as scumpainting you, when I was actually just trying to figure out where your mindset was.
This is what it felt like at the time to me.
I liked that you tried to engage me about reads later, but our initial interactions did not feel good. And it feels like today the Rask head is attempting to rewind the work I did and I thought you did as well, to learn how our views on the game meshed or clashed, and to put us back on a more confrontational standing.
I agree that in practice the likely result of Raskol's posting is negative if you're town. I don't think that he intended to pick a fight.

From where I'm standing I've felt like you were town since before I went to bed and definitely after. I didn't really feel like what you guys had done was scummy but we didn't talk about it until much later in the day and he initially assumed that I was still scumreading you, then he wanted the opportunity to sort you on his own, and now he's given up :P

You're reading a lot of subtext into the hydra dynamic that isn't there.
I can do confrontational if that's what you two are after. I don't think it's all that healthy for most gamestates, though.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #55) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:00 am

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Simplest and best answer that I can give is that if I were scum you wouldn't be scumreading me right now.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #56) » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:45 am

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I'm going to let Raskol take the lead from here on out. Address me specifically if you want my input on anything.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #57) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:14 pm

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Who has been posting today and yesterday?
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Post Post #342 (isolation #58) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:17 pm

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I've been asked to hold off for now.
Who posted the hubris comment?
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Post Post #344 (isolation #59) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:24 pm

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If I didn't get nightkilled yes.
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Post Post #350 (isolation #60) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:31 pm

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Whymafia because I can't read him.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #61) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:33 pm

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Well then I hope you realize your attitude towards my slot has been absolute shit and that you shouldn't do that again.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #62) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:39 pm

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I can't say I'll miss you after how you called me out for not trying to work with you then later acted.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #63) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:45 pm

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VOTE: Randomiget

Let's go here.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #64) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:48 pm

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Not me =]
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Post Post #376 (isolation #65) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:50 pm

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Everyone would have realized it wasn't a reaction test when you died.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #66) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:52 pm

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In post 379, morph the cat wrote:
In post 377, Arcade Pals wrote:Ok dunn explained it to me
*slaps morph*
And who exactly would you rather have used it on?
I mean you could, y'know, have not paranoia shot someone who is getting strongmanned N1 because they already softed their role to get you to leave them the fuck alone. But given that I was getting shot anyway I don't think that it matters.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #67) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:57 pm

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In post 375, morph the cat wrote:RC as much as he gets on my nerves is the perfect target for such a role. Had I known I was gonna get this probably wouldn't have chosen this game as our pick but eh.
I wasn't aware that I got on your nerves until this game. Feel free to keep your distance from me in the future.
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Post Post #400 (isolation #68) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:59 pm

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In post 396, morph the cat wrote:
In post 394, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 375, morph the cat wrote:RC as much as he gets on my nerves is the perfect target for such a role. Had I known I was gonna get this probably wouldn't have chosen this game as our pick but eh.
I wasn't aware that I got on your nerves until this game. Feel free to keep your distance from me in the future.
My nerves THIS GAME to be specific.
Man I tried to work with you to the best of my ability and you came out calling me out for hubris and complaining about my playstyle.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #69) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:00 pm

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Like I don't know what you expect playing with me to be like if you had a problem with what I did this game.
I went out of my way to be nice to you.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:02 pm

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In post 407, morph the cat wrote:
In post 400, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 396, morph the cat wrote:
In post 394, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 375, morph the cat wrote:RC as much as he gets on my nerves is the perfect target for such a role. Had I known I was gonna get this probably wouldn't have chosen this game as our pick but eh.
I wasn't aware that I got on your nerves until this game. Feel free to keep your distance from me in the future.
My nerves THIS GAME to be specific.
Man I tried to work with you to the best of my ability and you came out calling me out for hubris and complaining about my playstyle.
After you accused cabd of fake drunkposting.
That's not what I said. I said that Cabd played up his drunkenness and I stand by it. I had five beers on a wednesday night and this is how I'm talking to you.
I never said that he was lockscum or that I had a problem with it and I townread the shit out of the way that Ffery was speaking to me. These aren't equivalent.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #71) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:21 pm

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I take no responsibility for your actions. I've said what I believed and nothing more. I will do my best to win from here.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #72) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:27 pm

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I don't agree with any of your reads except SS and I'm going off of my own, considering that your top scumread was me.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #73) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:28 pm

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I forgot AP. Maria can be town too.
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Post Post #433 (isolation #74) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:32 pm

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I don't respect your reads after how you've played this game.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #75) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:38 pm

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Do you not think that I should feel insulted by how this game played out?
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Post Post #443 (isolation #76) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:41 pm

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No one is dead!
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Post Post #454 (isolation #77) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:43 pm

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If they're lyncher I don't think I ever get out of this so.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:45 pm

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Well, there you go.
Well, mad king. What are your thoughts on this situation
I think if I get lynched you'll already know what to do.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:46 pm

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This is RC. Raskolnikov is already in bed.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #80) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:49 pm

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Why do you think that he would do if it he was mafia?
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Post Post #474 (isolation #81) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:53 pm

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I mean idk what to say to you after Biochem Creature.
Ok you're pretty much scumclaiming at this point lol, trying not to give any info? I respect it.
Maybe I want to know what your thoughts on the guilty are to suss the odds of you being scum with Cabd/Ffery?
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Post Post #481 (isolation #82) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 476, Arcade Pals wrote:UNVOTE:
sure just give the word.
Why do you think that you misread me?
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Post Post #483 (isolation #83) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:03 pm

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The question wasn't
'what makes you think that you misread me'
it was
'What reasons do you think contributed to your misread of me'
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Post Post #495 (isolation #84) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:18 pm

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What exactly was it that you were looking for here?
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Post Post #503 (isolation #85) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:28 pm

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Who was the double voter one me and why didn't you claim that?
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Post Post #505 (isolation #86) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:30 pm

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VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #509 (isolation #87) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:35 pm

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You could say that.
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Post Post #517 (isolation #88) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:42 pm

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I don't trust anyone's motivations to want me lynched early, yeah.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #89) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:46 pm

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I'm going to bed.

If I get lynched that's 100% on you.
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Post Post #580 (isolation #90) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:43 pm

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My partner mistrusts your motivation and has asked this end.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #91) » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:47 pm

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Porky when you're worried Morph was scum was it with or without me?
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Post Post #591 (isolation #92) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:56 am

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In post 580, Mad King Ashnard wrote:My partner mistrusts your motivation and has asked this end.
I'm town, I am assuming that Morph is currently reaction testing to sort either me or other players. I've already seen enough from the reactions and want the game to move on.

VOTE: Porkens

I find it really weird that you've suggested that Morph is scum but without taking a stance on whether the guilty is true or not.
I also don't like the way you offered to vote me if he admits that it's for some weird role based motive: feels like you know that it's TvT and are trying to get an excuse to jump on anyway.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #93) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:58 am

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In post 590, Porkens wrote:>...tinfoil hat report is as follows...
>...gambit...scumsac for clear maf partner +powers...gambit probability...20%
Okay: but the presumption here is that you believe that I am scum either way.
Further, being that people in this game have already brought up Open 685 which I'm presuming you read and would have got this idea from: you're not exactly in a situation where you need to be scared enough that no one would ever catch onto this that you would want to vote Morph the Cat first.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #94) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:59 am

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In post 593, morph the cat wrote:
JUST TO BE EXPLICITLY CLEAR HERE THIS IS NOT A GAMBIT AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL CLAIM OF A DAYCOP GUILTY


Partner pool shrinking.
One post to retract that or I hardclaim and you get lynched.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #95) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:04 am

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I am Settlers of Catan 5-6 Player Expansion, Adventure Mason Information Receiver, with a 1-Shot Follower Expansion
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Finally realized you'd have to fight to give your team a chance instead of going down graciously eh?
I don't know what you think that you're doing but if you're town you deserve to lose this game.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #96) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:04 am

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I softed confirmed town very early in the game before any of this came up.

When my partner is here they are going to corroborate if necessary.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #97) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:09 am

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Porkens unvote if you're not scumclaiming.

Don't let scum QH this.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #98) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:10 am

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In post 604, morph the cat wrote:Oh oh and for a bonus bit of mod meta: Penguin doesn't use masons after the clusterfuck that was walked into a seal.
Oh is that why we're going to be uncced as masons and you still need to try to push a lynch on us? Good to know.
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Post Post #609 (isolation #99) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:11 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #612 (isolation #100) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:15 am

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Morph being scum makes the read on you go out the window anyway.
In post 128, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I have no intentions of getting lynched and if I have to claim you are going to die 100%.
Me telling TIAM to leave me the fuck alone.
Also if you just read the way we were playing I was described as 'stilted'- because I wanted to play safe. I made that clear several times. I think that Morph realized we were a strong PR.

People have scumread my reaction to the guilty: but I didn't think that scum would actually claim a guilty. I thought that Morph was trying to reaction test and was more interested in the behaviour of people around the claim. If you look at my play there I was trying to sort the reactions and ignoring Morph themselves because I didn't think it was real.

I still find it bizarre that this happened but my assumption is that Cheat & Steal is a real, scum role that forces them to do something like this and gives them a boon that's worth confirmed scum. I don't know what that would be setup design wise but they're claiming a guilty on me and I'm town so.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #101) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:20 am

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It's worth pointing out that the claimed ability name is Cheat & Steal: my role names all make reasonable sense with my actions.
There's absolutely no reason for a role named Cheat & Steal to function in the way that they have described it which is one of the reasons I felt comfortable calling it a reaction test.
If they're scum I'm assuming it does something drastic if they get me lynched today.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #102) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:24 am

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Oh and if they back down and say they were fake guiltying we're 100% lynching them today. This was not at all within the bounds of acceptable play if they're not scum.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #103) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:26 am

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My partner pool is going to shrink a lot when one of them hardclaims.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #104) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:27 am

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Those are the best kinds of deals!
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Post Post #620 (isolation #105) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:32 am

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In post 580, Mad King Ashnard wrote:My partner mistrusts your motivation and has asked this end.
In post 522, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I'm going to bed.

If I get lynched that's 100% on you.
In post 517, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I don't trust anyone's motivations to want me lynched early, yeah.
In post 503, Mad King Ashnard wrote:Who was the double voter one me and why didn't you claim that?
In post 474, Mad King Ashnard wrote:I mean idk what to say to you after Biochem Creature.
Ok you're pretty much scumclaiming at this point lol, trying not to give any info? I respect it.
Maybe I want to know what your thoughts on the guilty are to suss the odds of you being scum with Cabd/Ffery?
Does this look like scum who got guiltied or conftown who thought there was a gambit going on and wanted to suss reactions?
Also want to point out that the way I talked the way I did to try to be as non-indicative as possible to see how town would react.

You're not lynching me today: you're lynching Morph. Presuming they flipped town then yes you would lynch my partner and I.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #106) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:34 am

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Yawn your face. This should be super exciting for you, you caught two scum!
I mean it's really shitty that you targeted masons with that role but y'know.
uhh this is a game huh
inb4 the scumteam is MKA, morph and MKA's 'hydra partner'
Well then you know who to vote.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #107) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:35 am

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And let's be clear: the best vote in this triangle is always going to be Morph. They claimed a guilty on us and another person is claiming an inno me so if they're town you still get two scum.
VOTE: mad king ashnard
You are voting a mason claim before their partner comes to corroborate. Why would you -ever- do that if you're town?
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Post Post #629 (isolation #108) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:37 am

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Yeah, it does suck doesn't it. In a 'I already know that the guy you're voting is going to turn out to be town' sort of way.
He's not my mason buddy if you're trying to preemptively discredit him.
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Post Post #630 (isolation #109) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:38 am

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Gerry, why do you think that I'm scum?
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Post Post #632 (isolation #110) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:39 am

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In post 631, TwoInAMillion wrote:I don't trust M k a at all I do trust morph
Well, then you're not very good at this game are you? Assuming that you're town ofc.
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Post Post #634 (isolation #111) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:40 am

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In post 633, TwoInAMillion wrote:And I don't like the rolefishing ftr
What rolefishing?
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Post Post #636 (isolation #112) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:41 am

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In post 635, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 632, Mad King Ashnard wrote:
In post 631, TwoInAMillion wrote:I don't trust M k a at all I do trust morph
Well, then you're not very good at this game are you? Assuming that you're town ofc.
3 and 1 record so far I think my town partners including gerry would vouch for me.
I mean one of those wins was you getting carried by me, so.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #113) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:42 am

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You pushed SS on overconfidence that doesn't exist. You're pushing me on rolefishing that doesn't exist. Your reads are clearly not based on anything in the actual game.
I'm assuming that you're one of the scumbuddies here: if you're not it's time to do something differently.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #114) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:44 am

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In post 638, TwoInAMillion wrote:Ok if you say so. I obviously suck along with the entire wagon.
They're voting me based on a claimed guilty that I didn't fight because I didn't think it was coming from scum. You're claiming to actually scumread me and not care about the fact that I claimed masons. Even if I was scum the optimal play is to wait and let my mason buddy claim because then you've got 2 scum rather than 1 if I'm town: but that's not what you're doing. So it feels to me more like you and Morph are trying to rush the lynch before my mason buddy can show up so that you get the lynch through.
I'm not overconfident. If the daycop is lying we lynch him.
Why not lynch the daycop then worry about if 2 scum both lined up to fakeclaim a role?
Why does it not matter to you that you are theoretically getting 2 scum for 1 if I'm scum by simply waiting as opposed to trying to rush the wagon through?
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Post Post #644 (isolation #115) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:48 am

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If Morph is pulling this they have some out. Something I came up with is that they become unlynchable but become like a traitor in that they get endgamed last man if they succeed.
Not lynching them after a move like this is going to be seriously disadvantageous.
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Post Post #646 (isolation #116) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:57 am

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Final thing I want to say before I leave is that you can see how Scum!me reacts to being guiltied here.
I immediately turned on the claimant and amplified their scumminess to push on them and retaliated fast and hard.

This game I didn't do anything to fight the guilty and the way that I played could be perceived as scum giving up: and I knew that, but I didn't think that the claim was serious and I thought Morph was telling everyone to keep me at L-2 for that reason. Look at the part where I get worried about the doublevote coming out of nowhere. Morph has implied that I was just giving up and thinking about fakeclaims: but I don't think that if you read my posts in context that that's a reasonable viewpoint. I would never have responded in that way to a guilty claim on me as scum- ever.

I just wanted to be left alone and if you see my initial reaction to the 'cheat and steal' stuff it's obvious that I was pissed off because they locktowned me when I was mason.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #117) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 5:58 am

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I'm going to try to put together a case on Morph now knowing that I was in fact right the first time. I'll be busy for the next few hours though.
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Post Post #660 (isolation #118) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:41 am

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Can you not Gerry?

If my partner had to claim they have to claim and I'm not holding it against town given -RC- but I would rather the pool not be reduced if it doesn't have to.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #119) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:43 am

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Like don't get me wrong I totally get it.

But we have ten days to to.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #120) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:45 am

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I'd rather they not get explicitly outed with no say in the matter.
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Post Post #666 (isolation #121) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:52 am

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Man read between the lines here.

It's Drixx and he's in the hospital so chill tf out
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Post Post #667 (isolation #122) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:53 am

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Unvote me or you're scumclaiming AP.
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Post Post #670 (isolation #123) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:54 am

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In post 669, Arcade Pals wrote:Lol you think threats scare me cute.
I'll unvote when Drixx comes and confirms it
What have I been asking you to do?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #124) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:55 am

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I'm saying that they are a scum role which is forced to pick a 1v1 day one for some reason and got away with it.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #125) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:57 am

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Catan: Seafarers
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Post Post #680 (isolation #126) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:58 am

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And AP get your vote off me.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #127) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:59 am

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Because we have a faction ability adventure.
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Post Post #684 (isolation #128) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:03 am

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Make AP unvote me first.
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Post Post #685 (isolation #129) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:04 am

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Or TIAM but that vote isn't budging.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #130) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:06 am

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In post 676, TwoInAMillion wrote:Scum lyncher is a broken role. We would lynch if they are wrong.
I'm assuming the role functions in a way that that's not an option.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #131) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:19 am

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Systemically Lynch everyone on the wagon starting with porkens. That was disgusting that I just got lynched because my partner was in the fucking hospital whoever is town and voting me should feel ashamed.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #132) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:19 am

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That's actually l1. Great reaction test now unvote.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #133) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:21 am

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Give me a break please.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #134) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:22 am

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Porkens regardless of your alignment I feel like you know that I'm town.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #135) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:44 am

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What does locked mean?
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Post Post #702 (isolation #136) » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:46 am

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Scum have a paralyze, nice.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #137) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:32 am

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In post 756, Porkens wrote:>...town benefit to Drix claim not found...
>...advice: hammer now...
Bullshit?

We're masons: as soon as he claims Morph is getting lynched.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #138) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:33 am

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Unless this is horribly bastard I am confirmed to Drixx and V/V.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #139) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:24 pm

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In post 782, Radiant Moonlight wrote:
In post 760, Porkens wrote:
@MOD


The wikki on Mason is inconclusive. If there were "Masons" in this setup, is it a certainty that they would be alignment confirmed to one another?
In post 769, Porkens wrote:>...Input received...
>...probability of lynching outside Morph/King...0%
>...relevance of "partner" claim...0%
>...Advise: Lynch with all haste possible haste...
>...love mode engaged...
Wait did the mods say that masons were not alignment confirming?
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Post Post #821 (isolation #140) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:23 pm

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Scum used it to keep votes on me.

It won't matter when Drixx shows up.
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Post Post #826 (isolation #141) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:26 pm

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1) I am voting for them.
2) I don't see the point. Drixx is coming back any day now?
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Post Post #828 (isolation #142) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:27 pm

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VOTE: MOrph the cat

On the offchance that I'm not already.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #143) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:29 pm

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I mean I tried?

Cheat and Steal = some sort of modified day cop is the most bullshit thing that I have ever heard in my career on site.
Like it's so dumb that at first I thought it was just a reaction test and a poorly done one and the coversation between me and Raskol basically goes 'holy shit Cabd you are so dumb'
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Post Post #835 (isolation #144) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:31 pm

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In post 833, Something_Smart wrote:What makes you think they're scum?
Have you ever seen a role even remotely similar to the one that they're suggesting that they have?
More to the point: do you think that the mod would put such a cancerous role in the game that essentially encourages you to blindly target the strongest player with it, given D1 only?
More to the point: have you noticed that they shut up for a very long time when I outed Drixx as my partner and yet several people have been trying to encourage a quickhammer?
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Post Post #836 (isolation #145) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:32 pm

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If you think that I am going to put two of my scumpartners in the trade basket then you have something else coming. Morph is getting lynched today, it's just a question of when.
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Post Post #840 (isolation #146) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:33 pm

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So like, sure. Think that I'm scum, I don't care. I'm at L-3 and I can wait a long time.
So you're saying that ffery and Cabd are so incompetent as scum they can't come up with a fakeclaim that fits a daycop?
I'm saying that the role actually exists and they had to use it in thread: but it's not a daycop. It's some sort of weird role that gambits on them forcing a lynch through.
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Post Post #844 (isolation #147) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:37 pm

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- Yes, it's very similar to a desperado
It's not. Desperados you are encouraged to hold on to as long as you can to make a choice. There's also a clear trade off in value: if you shoot scum you confirm yourself as town and kill the scum. You WANT to hit scum.
The role as claimed you're forced to act early so you can't make an educated decision and you also don't care if you hit town: so it would on a theory level basically encourage you to just shoot the highest stature player.
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Post Post #848 (isolation #148) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:40 pm

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In post 847, Something_Smart wrote:It is mechanically similar. It is still advantageous to use on scum rather than town and claiming that there's no information day 1 is ridiculous.
I mean: I see things differently from my point of view knowing that it's a fakeclaim. I don't know how I would react to it if I didn't already know that.
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Post Post #850 (isolation #149) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:41 pm

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And no, that theory goes out the window given that 'supposedly' if town were targeted they get powers. So it's a role that would truly be blind usage wise.
Possibly targetting scum would be slightly stronger but I think they needed an excuse to justify claiming to target us with an ability so they came up with that.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #150) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:42 pm

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If they claimed just daycop I'm pretty sure everyone would call them out because why the fuck target so quickly: but by claiming what they did they take that out of the equation.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #151) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:44 pm

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Are you talking to me or S_S?
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Post Post #859 (isolation #152) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:45 pm

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I mean they obviously couldn't claim to have desperadoed us day 1 and it 1) fits the flavour better and 2) is a real role instead of what was invented.
Who's the second in each case?
Twoinamillion is scum.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #153) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:50 pm

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Something like 97%. I don't like the way Morph has flipped, I don't like how single mindedly they've been pushing wincon, I don't like how they're trying to rush a lynch without Drixx getting back.
No that their role was similar to desperado
I mean I made the connection immediately when they claimed and I assumed that they had actually in fact desperadoed me.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #154) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:54 pm

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If I have to give a read town but I wouldn't say that with any real certainty.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #155) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:57 pm

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Drixx: {Drixx}
Towny: {Porkens, S_S}
Leantown: {AP}
Nullish: {everyone else}
Scummy: {Gerry}
Scum: {Morph, 2IAM}
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Post Post #884 (isolation #156) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:59 pm

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Not sure if I buy #3 being S_S but I would need to go through the early interactions between Morph/SS
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Post Post #890 (isolation #157) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:02 pm

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In post 885, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 883, Porkens wrote:
In post 878, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 876, Porkens wrote:
In post 866, Something_Smart wrote:Figure what all out? That they die if they target town?
Wait, that's a slip.
A slip that I believe morph's claim, sure.
Why do you believe his claim?
Occam's razor.
You're horribly misapplying Occam's Razor if you think that town having some fucked up daycop that gives power only usable on day 1 targetting scum who proceeds to out their scumbuddy to fight a 2v1 is more likely than scum with some weird role that benefits from lynching a specific target fakeclaiming a guilty on a strong town player to get the lynch through.
You don't have to assume anything to believe that it's real.
You have to assume that there is a weird fucked up daycop role and that it is for some reason called cheat and steal.
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Post Post #893 (isolation #158) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:07 pm

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I mean I guess I could see it?

Morph comes in and hard townreads both their partners thinking that it'll clear them
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Post Post #898 (isolation #159) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:18 pm

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In post 894, Something_Smart wrote:Clearly morph is familiar with the game they claimed. To say that a daycop is unlikely to be called cheat and steal is to totally miss the point of a uPick.
???

I mean none of my abilities have nothing to do with their effects.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #160) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:25 pm

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I have a day action.

Gurgurant: Ike
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Post Post #905 (isolation #161) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:26 pm

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I meant.

My ability names are pretty sensible for what they do. There's a connection.

Cna you connect cheating and stealing to 1) giving someone power if they're a friend and 2) doing nothing if they're scum? Because what the fuck.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #162) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:27 pm

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In post 904, TwoInAMillion wrote:I'm not disgusted, I'm amused.
If you're town, don't be on the wrong side of history next time.
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Post Post #908 (isolation #163) » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:30 pm

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Post Post #1011 (isolation #164) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:59 am

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Their reaction felt very scum caught for the wrong reasons so I'm going to say Cabd was in fact super drunk and the push on me out of nowhere came unsupported because of it?
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Post Post #1016 (isolation #165) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:39 am

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-postie-
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #166) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:26 pm

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Hi, Drixx. Welcome back.
Morph the cat claimed a very strange modified daycop role with a guilty on me. I outed you as my mason partner and we've been waiting for you to get back.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #167) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:44 pm

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Read the game.
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Post Post #1029 (isolation #168) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:50 pm

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Time is always on my side.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #169) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:52 pm

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Make sure to finish posting the "how to feign confidence as scum" guide first though.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #170) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:53 pm

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Hey that wasn't RC. Raskolnikov firing off the chirps like president chirp.
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #171) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:02 pm

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Mfw game drags on and mason outed cuz scum literally powertargeted d1 and town is actually dumb enough to believe someone who had to change how his ability worked after the fact to keep the narrative straight :dead:
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #172) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:06 pm

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I think it's safe to say at this point that the average EMer is better around claims than anyone in mafiascum.
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #173) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:34 pm

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I firmly believe people playing mafia on a castle crashers fan forum are still better equipped to deal with bullshit ability claims like this.
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #174) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:42 pm

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I thought that we were about to be counterclaimed by Drixx and quicklynched so nothing we said mattered?
Go back to your castle crashers fan forum where scrubs like you pretend that just because you can rack up an okay score on Arena you're allowed to join CCRP3. I bet you can't even get past the barbarian boss losers.
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #175) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:46 pm

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Way to start trying to make excuses for us not being scum before we've even flipped.
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #176) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:48 pm

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Make sure to finish posting the "how to feign confidence as scum" guide first though.
Oh cool. We got step 1, already. But what is it?
Spoiler:
it's the "here's how you could be more convincing" cliche, nice.

What amazing item will come next on the list?
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #177) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:50 pm

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In post 1045, TwoInAMillion wrote:@morph - Does your flavor indicate the possibility of you being insane?
"could Morph actually be town despite claiming a guilty on town?"
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #178) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:55 pm

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Yeah, it means that you're suggesting that mtc shouldn't be lynched after I flip town.
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Post Post #1058 (isolation #179) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:58 pm

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In post 1057, TwoInAMillion wrote:
In post 1056, Porkens wrote:
In post 1053, TwoInAMillion wrote:Ok I'll go with that then, and if MKA is town we lynch morph.

But what if he is an insane cop?
Then we'll know when he flips. We have to take him on his word about his flavor.
Do you understand why I want you autolynched after MTC?
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #180) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:01 pm

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...Why would it be not pro-town to want to understand why a double vote popped up when I was supposed to be kept at L-2?
Why would it not be pro-town to want MTC to claim as specifically as possible so that there's no way that they talk their way out of a lynch tomorrow?
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #181) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:02 pm

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The more info town has about scum roles the better it is for town?
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #182) » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:04 pm

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Given that he's confirmed scum from my point of view: why
shouldn't
I try to extract as much information as possible from him?
The scum is the team that kills at night based on the roles out there.
You're saying that there's scum motivation to want roles outed but are ignoring the very real town motivation to want the role outed given that he's confirmed scum from my point of view.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #183) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:05 am

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VOTE: Drixx

You have a confirm on me in your role and have no reason to be lying about it. This is scum lynch it when I'm gone.
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #184) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:12 am

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Activate: Sands of Desert
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #185) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:18 am

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Posturing as a spooky ghost will do you no good.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #186) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:27 am

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:good:
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #187) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:28 am

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VOTE: morph
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #188) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:34 am

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Post Post #1103 (isolation #189) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:40 am

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ur mum is the partner and we consult every night ;)
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #190) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:47 am

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To be crystal clear, that was raskolnikov making a joke.

We are town and demand morph be return lynched for this. Even if it's some kind of insanity and he's town he should die anyways for not being able to see that and just being a bad player. That is all I have to say on this matter.
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #191) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:48 am

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I'm holding out for a possible dayvig to confirm my role, preferably by shooting morph instead of me however. I have extended deadline to help facilitate this.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #192) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:16 am

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You were chosen because I wanted to stall out the day and reaction test people to have something usable in terms of reads on the remaining playerlist. My slot is still town, but I didn't think that there was any other play that could be made that would get everyone to stop trying to bite my neck off and prolong the day enough that I could contribute something before I died.

Let's make this 100% clear: if I am somehow janned you lynch MTC, no questions. They don't get away with this play.

I believe based on Drixx's reaction that he is town. I think that MTC did not react like we claimed masons with their scumbuddies: if we did I think they would have done things differently, especially wrt them and 2IAM trying to get a quicklynch onto me. I think that Adan might be scum and that Morph are trying to use their push on them as scumbuddies to 'clear' them. 2IAM is still scum.

So something like

{Porkens, Drixx}
{WhyMafia, Randomidget}
{Arcade Pals}
-blob of nullreads
{Actiondan}
{2IAM}
{MTC}
Maybe you should re-read a bit more fore context. Helluva "gambit" to pull AS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO A DAYCOP GUILTY
No such things as daycops, boyos, but you already know that.

Our only reasonable way of getting this to go our way was to get MTC quicklynched before Drixx showed up, which didn't pan out unfortunately.
GL town. I sincerely hope something is learned from this in future games because this situation wasn't at all fair to me or Raskolnikov.

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