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humaneatingmonkey Survivor
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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My preferred is mountainous myself.In post 2257, Toranaga wrote:so the games are incredibly townsided and mafia still wins a lot. I have no idea why.
also yeah I'm very suspicious of most of these setups. IDK why games need to be so mech heavy anyway. I'd play a vanilla 13er with seer and feel great about it.
But the play quality here suffered a lot in the last few years, and now we're where we're at.
Where do you play that doesn't have this meta?
I'm always down for a new site.
It's called you not being able to read someone who either aggressive hard bussed their partner for two days straight - or spotting town who has been really pretty accurate with their reads.In post 2298, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Thor's got a scum tone that gives me a gutread I can't shake off.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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Like, if I'm scum - town should be sheeping me anyway at this stage.-
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lime in da coconut Townie
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Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and call the doctor woke him up
I said Doctor! Is there nothing I can take
I said Doctor! To relieve this bellyache
I said Doctor! Is there nothing I can take
I said Doctor! To relieve this bellyache
Oh let me get this straight
Oh mister Doctor man I think I'm going insane
My girl's been creepin' on me and my heart is filled with pain
Now I can't sleep, can't eat, can't stop this funky beat
Can't you hear it she keeps playing in my head
Baby You really drive me coconuts
Tell me, what am I gonna do?
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and call the doctor, woke him up
I said doctor, is there nothing I can take
I said doctor, to relieve this bellyache
I said doctor, is there nothing I can take
I said doctor, to relieve this bellyache
let me get this straight
My temperature is up to 103
Is there anything you can prescribe for me?
Well the doctor said "Hmmm, now let me see
just keep your body moving that's what works for me"
Baby, you really drive me coconuts
Tell me, what am I gonna do?
You put the lime in the coconut and drink them both together
Put the lime in the coconut and you feel better
Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em all up
You put the lime in the coconut and call me in the morning
doctor, is there nothing I can take
I said doctor, to relieve this bellyache
I said doctor, is there nothing I can take
I said doctor, to relieve this bellyache
I can't catch myself, hey doc I'm sick
I'm feelin' all run down, I'm sinking like a brick
I've seen dots in front of my eyes
But you talk about coconuts, and you're feeding me limes?
Different remedies you're giving to me, but nothing's working
Doc, if you don't tend to me I'm gonna be the big bad wolf
And blow your house down
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
Put the lime in the coconut; you're such a silly one
You put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em both together
Put the lime in the coconut and you feel better
Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em all down
You put the lime in the coconut and call me in the mornin'
Woooo Woooo
Is there nothing I can take
Wooo Wooo
To relieve this bellyache, I said
Oh Wooo Wooo
Is there nothing I can take I said
Wooo Wooo
To relieve this bellyache I said
Yeah Yeah
Is there nothing I can take I said
Wah Wahh
To relieve this bellyache I said
Doctor! Is there nothing I can take I said
Doctor! To relieve this bellyache
Put the lime in the coconut and drink 'em both together
Put the lime in the coconut and then you'll feel better
Put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
You put the lime in the coconut and drink it all up
Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.And you drink it all up.-
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Mulch Gotta Go Fast
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Virtuoso Goon
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In all normal games (at least to my knowledge) the mafia must specify who is performing the kill. If no one is specified then the person who posted the kill will be the one who is performing it.In post 2291, Toranaga wrote:@virtuoso: is the mafia night kill assigned to a player, or unassigned? Can the same player perform night actions on more than one player? (e.g. visiting someone to give fruit and killing someone else)
I cannot answer the second question.Last edited by Virtuoso on Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.♫ Where words fail, music speaks ♫-
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lime in da coconut Townie
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In post 2306, Mulch wrote:Oh lordI say adjust! You'll get used to it with time.
I say adjust! Nothing wrong in having rhymes.
I say adjust! You'll get used to it with time.
I say adjust! Nothing wrong in having rhymes.
You'll get used to it eventually. I have to confess, I was hoping to replace into a slot promptly nightkilled, since this is a bit earlier than I would normally prefer to replace in. However, I'll grow on you now that I'm forced to provide content.And you drink it all up.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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Pretty much all our PRs claimed by mid Day 2.In post 2305, lime in da coconut wrote:Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.
Day 1 wagon resulted from people turning away from the claimed cop to then lynch a semi-lurk slot with opportunistic votes.
Day 2 wagon resulted from a number of claims again, I thought it was led by me, but apparently I'm being told it was led by Toranaga, which is fine as I think he's town anyways.
Toranaga is a claimed Odd Night Tracker
WhyMafia is a claimed Miller
Mulch is a claimed fruit vendor (and has Why Mafia and humaneatingmonkey as confirming they have received fruits)
You are now caught up.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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On reading what I wrote, to clarify, Maria was a semi lurk slot who *also* had opportunistic votes.
Though I suppose some votes on her were potentially opportunistic.-
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Sergtacos Mafia Scum
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Objection, apparently you haven't been reading carefully? I claimed I have received the fruit, not monkey.In post 2309, Thor665 wrote:
Pretty much all our PRs claimed by mid Day 2.In post 2305, lime in da coconut wrote:Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.
Day 1 wagon resulted from people turning away from the claimed cop to then lynch a semi-lurk slot with opportunistic votes.
Day 2 wagon resulted from a number of claims again, I thought it was led by me, but apparently I'm being told it was led by Toranaga, which is fine as I think he's town anyways.
Toranaga is a claimed Odd Night Tracker
WhyMafia is a claimed Miller
Mulch is a claimed fruit vendor (and has Why Mafia and humaneatingmonkey as confirming they have received fruits)
You are now caught up.-
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Sergtacos Mafia Scum
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But other than that yeah, you caught up now.In post 2311, Sergtacos wrote:
Objection, apparently you haven't been reading carefully? I claimed I have received the fruit, not monkey.In post 2309, Thor665 wrote:
Pretty much all our PRs claimed by mid Day 2.In post 2305, lime in da coconut wrote:Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.
Day 1 wagon resulted from people turning away from the claimed cop to then lynch a semi-lurk slot with opportunistic votes.
Day 2 wagon resulted from a number of claims again, I thought it was led by me, but apparently I'm being told it was led by Toranaga, which is fine as I think he's town anyways.
Toranaga is a claimed Odd Night Tracker
WhyMafia is a claimed Miller
Mulch is a claimed fruit vendor (and has Why Mafia and humaneatingmonkey as confirming they have received fruits)
You are now caught up.-
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Toranaga Jack of All Trades
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Toranaga has personally led everything that was good in this town so farIn post 2309, Thor665 wrote:
Pretty much all our PRs claimed by mid Day 2.In post 2305, lime in da coconut wrote:Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.
Day 1 wagon resulted from people turning away from the claimed cop to then lynch a semi-lurk slot with opportunistic votes.
Day 2 wagon resulted from a number of claims again, I thought it was led by me, but apparently I'm being told it was led by Toranaga, which is fine as I think he's town anyways.
Toranaga is a claimed Odd Night Tracker
WhyMafia is a claimed Miller
Mulch is a claimed fruit vendor (and has Why Mafia and humaneatingmonkey as confirming they have received fruits)
You are now caught up.
really you've been onto skitter quite a lot since d1. I just think you did that while also pushing town. and I feel you could have just hard cased skitter and get her lynched if you wanted to, but mostly people just independently got there regardless of you voting her or not. and I may be an idiot but how is mulch town? I know mulch;amrock from MU, he is good or at least not supposed to do the many awful things he did d1 wrt Havo. and considering how skitter was bold enough to put two town on L-1, I'm reading everything mulch does as bold openwolfing and not wrong town.
it's hard to parse out what is people being incredibly bad at the game or mafia. But I think mulch is mafia, and I can't let it go that he is running town to the ground playing against inexperienced players, and you. DUCY. you may be the only player that can convince me out of the tunnel right now-
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Sergtacos Mafia Scum
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Yet you're not voting him? put yo money where yo mouth isIn post 2314, Toranaga wrote:
Toranaga has personally led everything that was good in this town so farIn post 2309, Thor665 wrote:
Pretty much all our PRs claimed by mid Day 2.In post 2305, lime in da coconut wrote:Hey there. I'm going to read up now and I'd appreciate it if someone could get me up to speed. (Claims, important game events including what led to the D1 mislynch, how you got the scum lynch D2, etc.) I replaced in blind and I didn't do much reading overnight, just a cursory quick glance at an iso or two. Anything you give helps.
Day 1 wagon resulted from people turning away from the claimed cop to then lynch a semi-lurk slot with opportunistic votes.
Day 2 wagon resulted from a number of claims again, I thought it was led by me, but apparently I'm being told it was led by Toranaga, which is fine as I think he's town anyways.
Toranaga is a claimed Odd Night Tracker
WhyMafia is a claimed Miller
Mulch is a claimed fruit vendor (and has Why Mafia and humaneatingmonkey as confirming they have received fruits)
You are now caught up.
really you've been onto skitter quite a lot since d1. I just think you did that while also pushing town. and I feel you could have just hard cased skitter and get her lynched if you wanted to, but mostly people just independently got there regardless of you voting her or not. and I may be an idiot but how is mulch town? I know mulch;amrock from MU, he is good or at least not supposed to do the many awful things he did d1 wrt Havo. and considering how skitter was bold enough to put two town on L-1, I'm reading everything mulch does as bold openwolfing and not wrong town.
it's hard to parse out what is people being incredibly bad at the game or mafia. But I think mulch is mafia, and I can't let it go that he is running town to the ground playing against inexperienced players, and you. DUCY. you may be the only player that can convince me out of the tunnel right now-
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Toranaga Jack of All Trades
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@thor: I play on Mafia Universe and 2+2's puzzles and other games. 2+2 games are very fast, usually 12h day 12h night. we used to have by far the most competent player field online, and the championships started on POG and with POG players MVPing those games. Now it's... not as good. the forums are pretty dead, but I still play there cause it's a lot more fun to me than elsewhere.-
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Toranaga Jack of All Trades
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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I don't think that's true at all, and even if it is then it's not you leading it either.In post 2314, Toranaga wrote:really you've been onto skitter quite a lot since d1. I just think you did that while also pushing town. and I feel you could have just hard cased skitter and get her lynched if you wanted to, but mostly people just independently got there regardless of you voting her or not.
I repeatedly cased Skitter because everyone in this game is a goldfish, including you.
Mulch also saif that VCA doesn't work and shows I'm bad at the game.In post 2314, Toranaga wrote:and I may be an idiot but how is mulch town? I know mulch;amrock from MU, he is good or at least not supposed to do the many awful things he did d1 wrt Havo. and considering how skitter was bold enough to put two town on L-1, I'm reading everything mulch does as bold openwolfing and not wrong town.
My theory isI wouldn't agree with most of his decisions of how to play the game - or do you think he's lying about theory?
If he's scum, I doubt it's because of his playstyle unless you can show me how he normally doesn't play this way.
Even if Mulch is mafia, and I'm willing to give you even odds on a scum being amongst the claims,that still means one scum not in the PR claims.In post 2314, Toranaga wrote:it's hard to parse out what is people being incredibly bad at the game or mafia. But I think mulch is mafia, and I can't let it go that he is running town to the ground playing against inexperienced players, and you. DUCY. you may be the only player that can convince me out of the tunnel right now
Since scum will keep whittling down the claims for us, it is town's job to whittle down the not claims.
Who do you think is Mulch/Skitter's buddy?
I've played invitationals both places.In post 2316, Toranaga wrote:@thor: I play on Mafia Universe and 2+2's puzzles and other games. 2+2 games are very fast, usually 12h day 12h night. we used to have by far the most competent player field online, and the championships started on POG and with POG players MVPing those games. Now it's... not as good. the forums are pretty dead, but I still play there cause it's a lot more fun to me than elsewhere.
I don't have the available schedule for fast games.
I liked both, but didn't find them much different in play quality I'll admit.-
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havingfitz Survivor
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Just stop please. Focus your wrongness somewhere else.In post 2209, Mulch wrote:
What about havingfitzIn post 2207, Toranaga wrote:I could probably be convinced of voting HEM fwiwTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
V/LA on weekends (i.e. RL > mafia)
The shortest GTKAS thread ever!-
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Toranaga Jack of All Trades
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yeah I didn't lead the skitter lynch either. skitter was objectively scummy in actions and most people just independently got there.
I think mulch's 'theory' talk is bullshit. where did he get his theories from? he was going on about lynching people 2 days into d1, getting town to hardclaim PR or get lynched super early, and then don't look at who is voting Havo, write it off as just a theory disagreement because 'scum bus d1'? I'm not buying any of that.
also, look at his interactions with skitter and how he decided to vote her, while conditionally clearing her a page before because I'm not scum with her. is that townie? 'this game is going fast, this is incredible', is this something town says? how about being the first one to notice maria was MAJed, was that townie? 'how did no one notice this before' 30 minutes after MAJ, is this townie? how about d3 where he is perspective slipping all over the place... I mean what the hell is townie about mulch man? if you can, I'm goldfish, I don't remember anything. I need some light if I'm ever not voting mulch this gameday.
also, fruit vendor does nothing for town, it's not a cop or a tracker. if you're going over even odds at one of the claims being scum, mulch is necessarily the best lynch. I'm not saying that, you're saying that.-
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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Mulch was towny for how he approached Why Mafia, and his willingness to attack any and everyone.
I'll agree Skitter was scummy and that it took a long time for people to get there for some reason.
I'm more frustrated by no one being willing to explain how Serg is own despite multiple people now claiming it.
That slot is not towny.-
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lime in da coconut Townie
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Spoiler: Playerlist ReferencePut the playerlist in the game thread, and you reference it,
Put the playerlist in the game thread, and you reference it.
I find writing down the players makes it easier for me to retain the information.Put the votes through analysis, and you reference it,
Put the votes through analysis, and you reference it.Spoiler: Votecounts ReferenceI say Info! Analysis is to come.
I say Info! You'll be happy when I'm done.
I say Info! Analysis is to come.
I say Info! You'll be happy when I'm done.
By itself this post is useless but I'll make good use of it momentarily.And you drink it all up.-
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lime in da coconut Townie
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In post 2307, Virtuoso wrote:
I cannot answer the second question.In post 2291, Toranaga wrote:Can the same player perform night actions on more than one player? (e.g. visiting someone to give fruit and killing someone else)My understanding is this is a question which should have come up with review and had a clear definitive answer.And you drink it all up.-
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humaneatingmonkey Survivor
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I think roleblockers (which is logical to exist because of the existence of investigative roles) are most likely to be bussing other scum and the way Thor is pushing that there's scum within the PRs (all of which I highly townread, and highly townreadable, or highly logical to be town) is suspect. That's why I'm looking at Thor to be a roleblocker. If Thor, WhyMafia, and Mulch is the final LYLO, we win. Actually, Mulch, Thor, and someone obvtown. Just that Mulch and Thor needs to be in LYLO. Because Thor is right, even if he is scum bussing partners, we should be sheeping him anyway.
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