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In post 32, Havo wrote:Claiming this early only benefits scum. Helps them narrow the pool of town PRs.
I would HIGHLY recommend NOT claiming your role.-
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claims generate discussion on day 2 or 3. not in rvs lol.In post 48, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
I don’t think she did one unless I’m misunderstanding. I think she wanted to, had some doubt, then saw Boon’s claim didn’t generate much discussion.In post 40, LicketyQuickety wrote:The question, at this point, should be whether Lalendra was truthful in their claim or whether they are Scum. I think this because I think its improbable that Lalendra was doing a reaction test when that was already brought up. Its the fact that her reaction test would be so ineffective that I don't think its likely she takes that course of action. I mean, they already claimed it so there is no sense in hiding it really.
I will say its prolly very unlikely that all of Uzi, EP and Lalendra are all Scum covering for Lalendra. That would group themselves too close together as having the same opinion which I don't think is either an effective strategy as Scum, nor a probable one.-
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Alright it's day one and we're on page 5 I'm not sure what I should be talking about yet. What do you want me to discuss?In post 69, Errantparabola wrote:1) Fact remains that Tchill is still a fine wagon as someone who has had 7 posts to advance the game but has actually done almost nothing.
2) Havo's 31 is unnecessarily chip-on-shoulder. Unfortunately I couldn't find any scum games from him, so there's really nothing to look into there (and perhaps there wouldn't be anything to look into even if there were scum games to read). But early Havo ISOs in other games have him being pretty personable. Thoughts, Havo?
3) LQ's weird Lalendra analysis is pretty town. Fast look into LQ's normal games (from his very helpful wiki) makes me comfortable with that read.
4) Any pronouns are fine.-
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alright errant that's some good points. I thought the best play here would be creating 2 wagons for future reads. Not really crazy about day ones seeing how we have the least amount of info and we're really just feeling each other out. My scumhunting usually progresses with the game state. still haven't found a play style i enjoy on day 1.-
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I just felt like errant brought up an issue that could lead to a lot of momentum on my wagon that could then be pushed to a Lynch.In post 127, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Low post count doesn’t mean lack of content.In post 124, Tchill13 wrote:Only scummy things I've seen so far is errant pushing me for lack of content when most players were around 5ish posts.
Do you think Errant is forcing having a strong read on you or something?-
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You can call me what you want on day 1 but it's good to know I've met another elitist on this site.In post 138, Thestatusquo wrote:*vi read intensifies*-
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I see much more motivation in that instance from scum rather than town. i believe i had 2 votes on me and errant was already one of them. Errant laid the foundation for some serious momentum. So from that view there wouldn't be much discussion about other players and less stances would have been taken. I haven't played with errant before but since this i've stated a town read on him because his breakdowns make sense and he's looking like he's trying to get multiple reads.In post 204, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 134, Tchill13 wrote:
I just felt like errant brought up an issue that could lead to a lot of momentum on my wagon that could then be pushed to a Lynch.In post 127, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Low post count doesn’t mean lack of content.In post 124, Tchill13 wrote:Only scummy things I've seen so far is errant pushing me for lack of content when most players were around 5ish posts.
Do you think Errant is forcing having a strong read on you or something?
I think I kind of get what you’re saying here but I also don’t really see it. Errant doesn’t strike me as the careless type.In post 136, Tchill13 wrote:The action isn't scummy it's the timing of it. Pushing someone for lack of content as soon as the game starts? Are you serious? That's why I questioned it because it's a reasonable excuse and the TIMING. Nothing better for scum to find a reasonable excuse to lead a mislynch on someone.
I find that there are players who don’t like a prolonged RVS stage or are just eager to get to game solving. Why is pushing for lack of content so early more likely to come from scum than town?-
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this is why mumble is suspicious. Only time i played with him he lurked.In post 252, Thestatusquo wrote:mumble is not really playing the game, though from listening to you guys talk about it that seems pretty normal for them? I'd like them to die if I didn't think LQ were scum.-
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lmao i thought the mumble wagon was lame because lynching lurkers on day 1 doesn't really give any info because nobody has to really take a hard stance there and its kinda just "lets lynch him just to lynch him."
then he voted havo. smh. mumble got a little attention then votes the next guy that gets brought up.-
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enlighten us on how mumble?In post 424, Mumble wrote:
Haha. I won my only scum game. This is a bad post.In post 418, Lalendra wrote:Mumble is really reacting, to me, like scum that has been found out and is trying to limit the damage by not giving any associative tells. If that's true, then the limited interactions he DID have (like voting havo) give us a decent amount of information. If not, then his death will be in vain because he hasn't helped us do any scum hunting whatsoever, and I'm not going to be very happy.-
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60 ish posts the whole game bro. nice way to reword that though.In post 429, Mumble wrote:Because I was able to avoid becoming too suspicious and then rode your's, and town's, bad logic (after coming back from a leave) through LyLo. In essence, I can read the game and do what's necessary to avoid unnecessary attention.
What am I doing here?-
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talking about your scum win man.In post 446, Mumble wrote:
Point out where I cherry picked info. I ISO'd havo, searched me, and posted it. That's not cherrypicking.In post 444, Tchill13 wrote:also the fact your cherry picking information.-
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yeah i agree. just wanted to let everyone know how you won. not sure why you'd be against that but i won't bring it up anymore it's in the thread now. one game isn't meta but the one game you WON might call for a little more attention right?In post 451, Mumble wrote:So let's both agree to let that go, and only talk about this game. One game is not meta, man.-
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i have experience with havo and he's playing like id expect him to as town day 1. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because i have seen a few instances of newb townies trying too hard too early and making strong reads out of little to nothing. Pretty sure you joined in like 2015 though and your reaction to someone MENTIONING a LQ wagon is laughable. You contradicted yourslef to some degree with the "reaction testing" and it was during a conveniant time that gave you a "reason" to vote havo other than OMGUS. at this point i'm fine with your or mumble's lynch. I'd rather lynch mumble hence my voting being there.-
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What part of "i think mumble is scummier" don't you understand? Do you want me to declare you my strongest TR? will that do enough for you?In post 472, LicketyQuickety wrote:
then fucking put your money where your mouth is and vote me.In post 471, Tchill13 wrote:i have experience with havo and he's playing like id expect him to as town day 1. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because i have seen a few instances of newb townies trying too hard too early and making strong reads out of little to nothing. Pretty sure you joined in like 2015 though and your reaction to someone MENTIONING a LQ wagon is laughable. You contradicted yourslef to some degree with the "reaction testing" and it was during a conveniant time that gave you a "reason" to vote havo other than OMGUS. at this point i'm fine with your or mumble's lynch. I'd rather lynch mumble hence my voting being there.
I find it odd that your reason for Town reading havo is based on Meta. How many games do you have played with them? You might want to look at my meta if you are going to use meta reads.-
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iv'e seen more assholes be town than be scum on this site. I said i liked why he voted you and i'm sure he'll be the greatest town asset i've ever seen on this site.In post 474, LicketyQuickety wrote:
So you are Town reading someone for being an asshole?In post 473, Tchill13 wrote:ok i lean town on TSQ. after an ISO i like why he voted LQ. I'm not crazy about ppl that belittle me and I like to agg them on at some point. He's obviously confident in his own play if he's calling ppl idiots so i'm sure he'll have this game figured out by the next day phase.-
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So all you have to do is give a reads list and you're not scum anymore? Smh.
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This makes me feel even better about havo and uzi as town.In post 490, Havo wrote:
I threw Boon in at the end just to see if someone would try and push him. I have no intention I’ve lynching him after 2 posts and being V/LA. I like that you picked up on it.In post 482, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Why Boon? He’s v/LA and hardly has posted.In post 350, Havo wrote:
I would be up for a Quick lynch.In post 337, Thestatusquo wrote:Though, to be fair, the first half of it is mostly good. I don't want to lynch any of [EP, Schadd, Lalendra, Luv, egg]
Would be happy to swing quick, though. And only two of those are town reads.
bottom list would be happy to see any of them go besides tchill as I have a strong town VI read on them.
Or Mumbles or Tacos or maybe even Boon.-
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You said mumble self voting cemented your scum read for him. What is it about LQ that's strong enough to question voting LQ instead of mumble?In post 509, Lalendra wrote:I'm torn between LQ and mumble.-
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Didn't answer my question. If you believe there's 2 different types of wagons why did you assume havo wanted a wagon to Lynch you instead of to pressure you?In post 519, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Because its based on the idea that there is a difference between a wagon vote and a lynch vote. I don't expect people to understand. Its just really frustrating having this happen all the time.In post 516, Tchill13 wrote:LQ... That doesn't line up with your reaction to havo mentioning a wagon on you. You explain there's wagoning for pressure and wagoning to lynch. So if havo mentioned a wagon on you why did you immediately assume that it wasn't to pressure you but to Lynch you?-
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