Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

[Boonskiies]

You shooting me isn’t a SK move here. That’s a town vig.

[schadd_]

Yeah, I have mistaken bad town for scum. I think that’s fairly common.

i meant specifically saying "scummy" meaning "bad town" (or "bad if town")

Like, I'm actually town. I understand how it looks.

how does it look?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Why did you choose to target tchill, Boon? I recall you town reading him on Day 1.

[Boonskiies]

Why did you choose to target tchill, Boon? I recall you town reading him on Day 1.

Because I’m paranoid of being pocketed by people I enjoy playing with/have a decent amount of experience with. It also gives away who I targeted last night in that case.

[Boonskiies]

Yeah, I have mistaken bad town for scum. I think that’s fairly common.

i meant specifically saying "scummy" meaning "bad town" (or "bad if town")

Like, I'm actually town. I understand how it looks.

how does it look?

I tunneled a townie to a mislynch, got vig shot, didn’t die, and then claimed a role that didn’t explain it.

Why he chose to shoot me over a miller claim baffles me, though.

[Boonskiies]

I guess he could be a SK who no killed, but I’m not going to go down that road. I still think it likely comes from town making bad shots.

[Boonskiies]

I guess he could be a SK who no killed, but I’m not going to go down that road. I still think it likely comes from town making bad shots.

This also implies LQ is a BP SK who no killed and was shot by scum, who thought he was a vig.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Boon, for the last time, there is no SK

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

[Boonskiies]

Actually, I think he is just a SK, not BP, after thinking about it. I’m a vanilla cop, I would get a vanilla Result on him, where if he’s a vigilante, I’d get a not vanilla. I should have investigated there instead of where I did, but I didn’t think of that as a possibility before the no kills. That means there is likely a BP/JK somewhere. Or potential commuter.

[Havo]

I feel like I know why scum failed to kill last nite but I'm discovering that this site doesn't like to give info on nite actions so I can't be sure but I'm like 90% sure.

[Boonskiies]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

I have temporarily. There was a game I put him as my top town read Day 1, and then pages later derailed him down and caught him out as scum, then called out a partner of his for busing him, who just happened to be Carcalilly busing, who then got vig shot, effectively catching two scum Day 1. So if I have misread him, I fixed it. I’m town reading him here, but I am pretty paranoid.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

I have temporarily. There was a game I put him as my top town read Day 1, and then pages later derailed him down and caught him out as scum, then called out a partner of his for busing him, who just happened to be Carcalilly busing, who then got vig shot, effectively catching two scum Day 1. So if I have misread him, I fixed it. I’m town reading him here, but I am pretty paranoid.

Ah. I'm assuming that's fairly recent?

How many times have you read him correctly though? I ask because I'm not sure if the fear of being pocketed outweighs being able to read someone correctly at a high clip.

[Havo]

Like, I’m actually town. I understand how it looks. Considering I got a night 2 Result, and LQ was a claimed vig with stated targets, I feel like one of the people he mentioned he was looking into shooting are probably scum, and he got roleblocked, and then scum killed a Bp/commuter of some sort.

[Boonskiies]

What's your history with tchill? Have you ever read him incorrectly?

I have temporarily. There was a game I put him as my top town read Day 1, and then pages later derailed him down and caught him out as scum, then called out a partner of his for busing him, who just happened to be Carcalilly busing, who then got vig shot, effectively catching two scum Day 1. So if I have misread him, I fixed it. I’m town reading him here, but I am pretty paranoid.

Ah. I'm assuming that's fairly recent?

How many times have you read him correctly though? I ask because I'm not sure if the fear of being pocketed outweighs being able to read someone correctly at a high clip.

Fairly. Games and games ago. Fair enough. To be honest, it’s not enough. But it’s just a general problem I have with my town game is being pocketed due to my relationship with another player.

ZZZX got me good once because I town read him, was paranoid, but let me friendly relationship with him drop my paranoia of him, and I reverse POE’d.

[Boonskiies]

Luv, you play scum similar to how I do, it seems, and I’m growing increasingly paranoid of you for multiple reasons. The main reason is everything you are doing seems to come from a good mindset, looks like logical good posting, yet there isn’t any reason to scum read you or town read you if you delve deeper, but it looks like it’s really good posting. It’s similar, yet not in a heated way, as Mulch vs Boon in Why’s game. Mulch had the correct read on me, but there was no real reason that he could explain for it, thus my posting made logical sense and he couldn’t push it further without seeming scummy.

[Boonskiies]

boonskiies, how do you feel about being wrong on acid?

lalendra, what made you confident quickety wasn't the vig at the end of yesterday?

remember, i'm the frontier reaction test player on site

I’m going to go back to this now.

I’m not sorry that I lynched Acid. I thought he was scum. He was incredibly scummy to me, and I posted a bunch of reasons why I thought he was scum. Was I upset when he flipped vanilla townie, and I realized I was wrong? Of course, but it happens. Because of the flip, I am now able to analyze who took advantage of my scum read on Acid, who awkwardly opposed it, and then what was happening around it. eEven though it was a mislynch, and I was wrong, there’s still a lot to get out of it, and we can use that failure to succeed this time around.

[schadd_]

how do u feel about mr. quickety shooting u

[Boonskiies]

how do u feel about mr. quickety shooting u

I’ve explained that the fact he didn’t shoot the claimed miller is pretty bad. I could see it coming from town vig making a bad shot, but with everything else, i take back what I said on the town vig over SK shot. It makes a lot of sense as a SK shot, which also synergizes with me being a Vanilla Cop, because he’s likely Vanilla Serial Killer, and then there’s a BP or commuter elsewhere. I do very much think he’s a SK, though.

[Boonskiies]

Like I said before. I think he no killed.

[schadd_]

is there some joke the rest of us aren't in on regarding SK

[Boonskiies]

I’m vanilla this game. Thoughts?

I’m known for claiming like 5 different times as town. I’m THE reaction test player on site. I believe every post matters.

I’m also VLA until Friday, it I’ll likely be posting occasionally within that.

So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

So I got some sort of result on Tchill. Good chance I’m loyal.

I need you to claim, buddy. :/

You don't think you would have been told if you're Loyal?

Looking way too into that right now.

I’m not just looking for an answer, though. I 100% targeted you and have a potential guilty.

If you’re Ascetic or a Commuter like you are semi hinting at, I may be able to move on from this.

I’m a role cop. You want to change that Miller claim and play it off as a joke? I’ll allow that.

I’m not actually a role cop, by the way, let me WIFOM the scum team some more.

I repeat from earlier.

I’m Vanilla. Thoughts?

Look at this all with the fact that I’m a vanilla cop.

I started my Tchill thing knowing I had a not vanilla Result, and my loyal gambit was to see if I could get him to claim Ascetic or commuter, so then I could state I had a Result, and he was lying.

[Boonskiies]

is there some joke the rest of us aren't in on regarding SK

I don’t get how it’s a joke. I don’t understand why people just auto assume there isn’t going to be a SK in a game. Literally a Large Normal SK was able to coast to a victory after none of the first few kills went through and mafia got wrecked super early, and gunsmith inno cleared SK.

I brought up the idea of there being a SK there, and got killed because of it. I brought up the idea of there being a SK here, and almost got killed for it.

[Boonskiies]

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By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

Oh, I also did this.

[LicketyQuickety]

if you're scumreading me on the luv wagon thing then you haven't paid a lick of attention to my posts the entire game and/or haven't previously bothered trying to actually figure out my alignment

if you're legitimately scumreading me off the joke then I feel justified calling you a dumbass because

what

sounds like scum mad that they're caught out for reasons they think they shouldn't be caught out for.

this is objectively a caught for the wrong reasons post

if you're going to search for stupid read reasons at least keep track :>

I mean

two of then were stupid reasons(the joke, the tense on my response about the joke)
one of them was a reason that can only exists if you actually are, in fact, just trying to look at my alignment for the first time, given that it's existed all game(response to quick wagon / building luv wagon(
and then the last reason apparently isn't a reason I'm scum even though you posted saying that it looked like scum because of it)

am I missing anything

what positioning onto luv

my vote?

*

Sure. You're in the Warlock position. You have the strings attached, and are fueling your demon, but LQ is the muscle and face of the operation.

VOTE: boonskiies

ctrlf vote

no I wasn't sure so I tested your reaction

the fact that you readily accepted my question means that you don't actually give a shit about your own case

the prosecution restd

again: ctrlf vote

you still haven't ctrlfd vote

it's fairly obvious what the problem is boon

ctrlf vote in my iso

hint: the fact that the only issue which seems to be of real significance to you, and at the very least more significant than any of your other problems with me, is my position on the luv wagon

and you don't actually know that I didn't vote luv

it's not your only issue but you literally generalized the other issues as "these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about"

and okay but if you just read through that to actually come to a conclusion then how the hell would you not note the lack of a vote

even moreso than just being significant it's probably the only thing about what I've done with luv I would actually agree looks scjmmy (the lack of a vote)

also if so

.

it's not your only issue but you literally generalized the other issues as "these are all just the extra reasons that I generally don't care about"

and okay but if you just read through that to actually come to a conclusion then how the hell would you not note the lack of a vote

even moreso than just being significant it's probably the only thing about what I've done with luv I would actually agree looks scjmmy (the lack of a vote)

also if so

.

being pissed that you've decided none of my points matter except for hunting for the scum motive in every word while not reevaluating, and now being to the point of "you're either scum or town who isn't actually trying to figure out peoples alignments" (and you've posted enough that that dichotomy almost always flips the former) is why I added the "real significance" and "at the least clearly the most significant" parts yes

Vigilante can shoot me if I'm wrong.


Or lynch me, and vigilante shoot Acid, lynch acid for sure if he lives.

if you are in fact town this part of this post, more than any other thing you've done, has singlehandedly make me lose all respect for you

fuck anyone who makes anything about "if you don't trust me you gotta Lynch me"

This is why I shot boon.