Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[checkersman7]

I mean you've seen me have to do 100 posts on why CCing when someone claims your role in an open setup is a good idea

and also why claiming at all is a good idea

lolmafiascum indeed

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The thing that gets me the most about the goon squad that is mafiascum is that nobody ever seems to have that moment where they realize

oh my god i'm awful at this game and basic logic

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Like here Case in point:

EDDIEFENIX In your next post please answer this:

I have 3 boxes
in each box is a prize
one of the prizes is a really really good prize
the other two prizes are a steaming pile of my shit

I ask you to pick a box
you pick box 3
I then open box 1
reavealing

a steaming pile of my shit

Now I ask you

do you want to take box 2 instead of box 3 like you originally picked

what do u do go

[checkersman7]

I should read them then

yeah, you should see how many times i've hammered scum, right checkers?

[checkersman7]

you had that gif way too fast

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I'm about here

Majiffy - null
Rautherdir - town
SnarkySnowman - scum
Thor665 - null lean town
momo - null lean scum
Lil Uzi Vert - FUCK YOU (town by elli)
ConManMick - null lean town

[checkersman7]

and you'll be tied up in the dungeons

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the thought process that took him from 422 to 445 as all those posts were pretty closely grouped I didn't like

[checkersman7]

*hermione hand raising intensifies*

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Like here Case in point:

EDDIEFENIX In your next post please answer this:

I have 3 boxes
in each box is a prize
one of the prizes is a really really good prize
the other two prizes are a steaming pile of my shit

I ask you to pick a box
you pick box 3
I then open box 1
reavealing

a steaming pile of my shit

Now I ask you

do you want to take box 2 instead of box 3 like you originally picked

what do u do go

quoting so Eddie sees

[checkersman7]

Eddie "i get one post and I just wasted it" Fenix ok cool it woulda been way easier to just say switch or keep but ok.

Majiffy I think the easiest way to read you is to flip within your group, what are your thoughts about that

[checkersman7]

there are no hydras

[checkersman7]

I'm down for B flips. I'm voting for a B lynch already.

word word

[checkersman7]

Okay, a few things then:

First of all, you didn't do the Monty Hall problem correctly, checkersman. You have to specify that you know what is in the boxes, because if you don't know which box is the correct box the odds are 1/2. If you do know, then assuming you always offer a switch and always avoid revealing the correct prize, the odds are 1/3 if Eddie stayed, and 2/3 if he switches.

Second, there are no hydras allowed in this game, Creature.

Third, I may have missed questions asked to me since I last posted.

of course I know that's obvious

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Also creature is town but hooooooooooly hell his reads are bad

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Similar to Elli saying I wouldn't care enough to be this active as scum here

He wouldn't be acting like this if he was scum

call it a soulread

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False

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The statement isn't coming from LUV. He is being asked a question, i.e. 'Is this something you have done before as scum yes or no?'

he can choose to answer it in either manner and it is WITHIN THE CONFINES of a game.

Ergo and ipso facto you're stupid.

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it's good that instead of catching up and providing content you're blathering about trust tells though it's very helpful and useful

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I wish I had Mikan's quoting skills

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VOTE: c
Because everyone I scumread is in that group.

Hard to form a read off of this singular post

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and it seemed like he had a townread there(Ginngie) before

well u know what they say about assumptions

sadly I'm not an ass so can you not thanks.

[checkersman7]

You should probably have that looked at by a mechanic then since there's the same number in each group

Also here's post 252 checkersman calling you an idiot as a free bonus normally I charge for this kind of spicy action

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So why lynch in B again, where he doesn't have solid reads and only a hate boner for LUV?!

I'm about here

Majiffy - null
Rautherdir - town

SnarkySnowman - scum

Thor665 - null lean town
momo - null lean scum
Lil Uzi Vert - FUCK YOU (town by elli)
ConManMick - null lean town

[checkersman7]

So why lynch in B again, where he doesn't have solid reads and only a hate boner for LUV?!

I'm about here

Majiffy - null
Rautherdir - town

SnarkySnowman - scum

Thor665 - null lean town
momo - null lean scum

Lil Uzi Vert - FUCK YOU (town by elli)

ConManMick - null lean town

[checkersman7]

Okay, what is your read on Ginngie currently?

I'm not lynching meme mommy based on what we've seen so far but I'm also not townreading her

[checkersman7]

strength of memes

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Ite Thor lock town

Are you people reading the same game as me

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particularly in a game where you start with PoE pools

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K but checkers isn't town and neither is Mikan

Also Bulba and Elli are scum

lmao these reads

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i mean the town part still stands but i'll let you yell at him for the last part

but I'm tired and I don't want to

momo town now yes agree

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I am actually revoking my Thor TR. After watching his B C wagon switch and then the way he justified it just screams scummy to me. So yeah, I think thor is scum.

So if we go into group B, my two SRs are thor and snarky.

For C, I see mikan and checkers.

My reasoning for SRing checkers is that a lot of his posts are spammy and even if that is his playstyle, even the content ones don't provide a unique perspective. In fact, they seem like repetitive observation, restating the beliefs of other players, His only sort of unique thought that he stuck by was the town PRs should claim and I don't like that. Therefore, scum,.

You done good within ur own group

u done very bad within group c

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So why lynch in B again, where he doesn't have solid reads and only a hate boner for LUV?!

I'm about here

Majiffy - null
Rautherdir - town

SnarkySnowman - scum

Thor665 - null lean town
momo - null lean scum

Lil Uzi Vert - FUCK YOU (town by elli)

ConManMick - null lean town

pretty clear from this post why I'm voting B, Ginngie.

[checkersman7]

This is how it’ll go if Group B goes through.

Majiffy (L-8)
Rautherdir (L-8)
Snarky (L-7) - Cheese
Thor (L-8)
Momo (L-7) - Mikan
Lil Uzi Vert (L-5) - Dan, Desperado, Majiffy
Mick (L-8)

Stale until deadline.

this post gave me cancer

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14 votes but only 5 people are going to vote and nobody is going to move a vote got it

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Elli are you 100% on this?

now he's fearmongering to avoid his group being cjosennnnn

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I don't see dan scum here

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scum Dan doesn't have the fire hes had for the scumlords here.

we disagree on reads all the time but the approach is towndan

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VOTE: LIL UZI VERT

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I'll move my vote btw Im just still a little irked

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I dont lul

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phonepost but hey Mika u realise your ginngie and transcend not scum with each other read is shit because the scum within group don't know each other rite

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I agree with Thor here. The game may start like three 5-2 minis, but every time town wins in one of the groups, the remainder is given to the remaining groups. Including any power roles if there are any left by that point.

???? this is why we lynch 1 scum from each group ans then proceed to the next group

[checkersman7]

Today is the 5 year anniversary of a horrible event

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I wish all the PRs were vigs and they all shot desperado tonight

[checkersman7]

So this is why they say you should never meet your heroes

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proddodge

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VOTE: MAJIFFY

[checkersman7]

I TOO AM BUT A SHEPHERD

I DIRECT THE ANGER OF A WRATHFUL SPIRIT

THE LAST REMNANTS OF A VENGEFUL HORDE

ELLIBERETH, HORSEPERSON OF THE APOCALYPSE

DIRECT THY FURY ONTO MAJIFFY

[checkersman7]

I'm in peaceful protest against vote tags until I solve the game.

which should be sooner than later if some people showed up and if some people answered some thing things zzzz.

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

BEGONE FOUL IMPOSTER

RELEASE THE RAGE WITHIN

[checkersman7]

cases are scummy

but not as scummy as Majiffy

[checkersman7]

it's called charisma

[checkersman7]

ram is sadly town

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viewtopic.php?t=73949&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

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I found 11 more bad posts vonflare check em out

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ignore my penis

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didn't u just ask to bury the hatchet

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if we cant get majiffy today for whatever reason how do y'all feel about the total lack of conmanmick ITT

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VOTE: Mickhead

[checkersman7]

I've been pretty good with my alt slips

[checkersman7]

my ratio is better tho he just doesn't post when there's too many idiots in a game

[checkersman7]

u saying mickhead is town?

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UNVOTE: u right

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@mod: i'm not voting

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hello friends

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MATE

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wattafaq

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I GO TO PUT SOME DAMN UNDERWEAR ON

AND TWO PEOPLE UNVOTE?!

TWO

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THATS WHAT YOUR MOM SAID

[checkersman7]

(expired on 2017-11-23 16:00:00)

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(expired on 2017-11-23 14:22:00)

[checkersman7]

I copied from a VC of my game

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really at the end of the day this countdown is brought to you by whemestar

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eddie

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hola

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VOTE: ConManMick

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always

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gonna wait for the guilty because there better be one/world's most obvious shot

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no

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another mislynch in that group puts us in a really bad spot so

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we are only lynching in group b today if theres a guilty in that grou

thank you for your understanding of simple logic

And READING THE FUCKING SCUM WINCON

[checkersman7]

If we SERIOUSLY don't have a guilty from that kill group A is the best bet

Creature is town

Anyone seriously scumreading me is the next contestant on dumb or scum

(on that note, Bulbazak is town and Eddie is scum)

Also Ginngie I am not named Creature, and I am also scumreading you

[checkersman7]

TOWN:
Bulbazak
Elliberetta
InactionDan
Creature

FUCK YOU:
assemblerotws

Whats left:
EddieFenix (100% Scum)
WhyMafia (depends on the FUCK YOU)

TOWN:
momo
Lil Uzi Vert


FUCK YOU:
SnarkySnowman

SCUM:
Majiffy
Thor665 (pending FUCK YOU)

TOWN:
vonflare
RachMarie
checkersman7
Transcend
Mikan Tsumiki

SCUM:
Ginngie
Desperado



Actually I'm fine with C too

[checkersman7]

I know it sucks being scum its ok ginngie

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Beauty of this game is I can't do anything with it ever

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Is that you saying you now scumread me?

[checkersman7]

Really because it sounded like you said "1v1"

[checkersman7]

whether you’re town or not.

Hmmm

Stop and think who benefits more from asking a player to claim during day phase 1 on day 1. If LUV was ran up, I'd understand, but he's not even in danger, and Checkers is trying to get a claim. One way or the other, he wants to out the town PR in Group B. This isn't about whether or not LUV is the town PR. This is about locking down the town PR in Group B before we get to the lynching phase or the night phase (also known as scum have a gun and aren't afraid to use it phase).

this is town!chess?

You literally just town cased checkers

Group A

Who Town: Bulba, Elli, Creature
Who Left: Eddie, Ass, WhyMaf, InactionDan


Group B

Who Town: Majiffy, Thor, LUV
Who left: Rauth, Snarky, momo, Con

Group C

Who Town: Rach, checkers, Mikan
Who left: vonflare, Desp, Transcend

I have this amazing ability to entertain a thought while maintaining my own.

I’ve been Town reading checkers and that hasn’t changed.

I am able to see a Bulba post and give praise to his analysis of a player.

You mistake me giving praise as me agreeing with him 100%

Now seriously look at the post, it’s an analysis talking about why chess should be voting for group C given his town reads.

Now why that’s scummy to agree with and how that’s illogical, I’ll wait for you to explain

hmmmm

[checkersman7]

This is not the Ginngie from Kilos and you know that.

So let's try this is a different way

Why should I be townreading you?

[checkersman7]

or I can link PTs I’m a nervous wreck

nobody cares how you act in PTs.

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And someone as old as you on this site should know better than to say someone is scum because they have a thought that a townread could be scum.

I almost think you’re being facetious with that kinda logic

And someone here as long as me also knows how to slowly orchestrate a read reversal too.

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and therefore can recognize it

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Yeah and reads don’t change either lmfao

P-edit: you mean I’m Town because when i played i was showing myself Town?

What a concept

Can you lean into the microphone and state that your read on my is changing because I've publicized my scumread of you, when it previously was simply via omitting you from townlists?

[checkersman7]

I want an explanation of these Thor and Majiffy reads. Everyone seems to be scumreading them, and I haven't the foggiest why. They're still kinda nullish for me.

P-edit: If it's any consolation, I really don't have a townread of Ginngie right now. Although, she's still benefiting from that d1 buy. I want to solidify some reads before I go chasing down that rabbit hole.

Sure. Thors best posting has been a theory argument with Elli, not actually contributing to the game

Majiffy posting is all scummy as fuck

LUV and momo are also clearly town so

[checkersman7]

Nah

Unfortunate

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You mistake 1v1 as OMGUS

During a 1v1 I’m just going to yell at you and point how you’re an idiot and then if a read changes then it does.

You’re setting up this weird scenario where I’m either scum trying to “read switch on you” or in your eyes I’m forced to townread you

But that’s not how this game works

perhaps you should look up what 1v1 is

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Can you explain Majiffy in more detail? Thor I kinda get, but I need something more than just "scummy".

Think about a town player* choosing to only comment on the things Majiffy has

* Town player possesses brain

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I’ve 1v1’d with a metric fuck ton of my town reads lmao

Citation needed

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Focusing on LUV you mean? I meant to respond to his response to me from d1, but decided against it.

Not even just that

Just the total lack of not doing anything. Yet magically appearing at end of day for some shitposts, plus earlier in the day showing up to tell me to shove my vote of him up my ass etc

If you don't get it maybe you never will and I don't really have high expectations, but there's money there

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I'm thinking there are two vastly different definitions here.

Nope.

It's fake

e.g.

search.php?keywords=1v1&t=73385&sf=msgonly

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If I did that search wrong I'm gonna laugh

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plserino linkerino

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Feels different to me so far

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do you disagree Group A is easy money?

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don't flatter yourself

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Your immaturity isn't going to prevent me from playing optimally to lynch scum in a good order

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Hmmm I think it's more I like you as a person but Eddie annoys me and is scum so it's a twofer

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Hey mod while you're doing replacements, assemble has 6 TOTAL posts

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@Checkers: B is a great big tub of blah for me right now. I just want investigatives to sort it out a bit before diving back in.

The same investigatives who couldn't figure out to watch Rauth?

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C is looking good from my perspective as far as PoE goes, though.

Eddie is obvscum dude

like C's ok but Eddie is obvscum

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You mean for all that WK bull crap?

wat?

Like

I mean I know he's your friend but he was scum in xyzzy and he's scum here

[checkersman7]

Toto your partner claimed secret agent is that correct?

[checkersman7]

predecessor*

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Chessy I like how you took some tools from my toolbox and made them your own.

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Dammit it doesnt display?

[checkersman7]

ANSWER MY QUESTION

read the scum wincon

now answer my question

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found the goon boys

VOTE: Group A

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Everyone whose anyone

you're just mad I caught you with the ole 'ur predecessor' trick

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don't worry I know replacing into a scum slot sux

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I have not read all of them

Come, 1v1 me.

So which definition of 1v1 do you use? The one where we lynch you and then me if you flip town?
Or Ginngie's stupid definition

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No I'm serious, which is it?

Because if you are self proclaiming a confident scumread on me from our interaction here, with a willingness to stake your life on it, please state so for the record

if you are merely whining like Ginngie just a few pages on, please state that for the record.

[checkersman7]

Incorrect.

Please STATE FOR THE RECORD
what your DEFINITION
of 1v1
IS

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION

[checkersman7]

Miss Beretta do we disagree anywhere on list I posted a few pages ago

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didn't you just copy my list from d1 and change vflare

no I copied the mod list and moved people up or down

I did steal the FUCK YOU thing from you though yes

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O i thought I stole it from u in a previous game but I'm lazy so

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cool

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o snap breaking news

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You keep using these words but they are all so very very stupid

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Also answer my damn question

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I'm going to interpret the refusal to engage as the former of my two options, stating that you are comfortable making today's lynch myself or you today

I am also going to gloat like you've never seen before in your ENTIRE life at your goon flip

votes on A pls boyos

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It just annoys me because I just spent like an hour of my time bullshiting with checkers to try and creatively get checkers to vote C and now A is shiny platter -.-

sup

[checkersman7]

How do u think I felt the first 25pages of this shitter

oops

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if there was any light to see it wouldn't be RAMCIUS town hero seeing it

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seems like a rude comment to me

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anyway here's an easy reason why you're trying to throw the damn game.

we ml in B today bevause people don't really care cuz its lylo. then we destroy group A and have 3 ICs. they shuffle 1 into b 2 into c and we've lost since we have to vote B every time because only the 4 scumfucks in B decide the lynch.

not to mention the fucking scum PR can openly claim

[checkersman7]

leave the thinking to those with brains

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now THAT was a rude comment

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color me not interested in a plan that makes the game a 50 50 even with exceptionally good lynching

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you want to keep town PRs alive maybe the town PRs should play their roles properly but its not a where to lynch consideration

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as I stated on PAGE ONE. the way to play this is 1 lynch in each group. ideally we hit 2 scum of those 3 and then we in a good spot
if we hit 1 it's ok. 0 is a disaster.

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I'm always right

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now vote A like a good sheep because Desp/Ginngie is an unfun lynch pool

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Whymafia/Toto and Fenix

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I post handy lists for just this purpose

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WKing

wats this

[checkersman7]

I know what white knighting is I internet.

when the fuck did people start calling it WKing

[checkersman7]

It's easier to abbreviate a common term rather than type it out every time.

Ok BB

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actually BT seems more apropo

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Don't make me put my F up your A.

don't u mean

f u ck

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But seriously though, I can live with wherever a NK goes in C. I think a NK in A is bad times.

elaborate on this

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In A, Elli dies at night, almost guaranteed.

there's a watcher bro

also how fuck dare you, my "mechanics hunting" is teaching idiots how the setup works and unrelated to scumhunting

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Ok but like you're being a disingenuous little shit right now since I've had more sheep than Elli the entire game and we have essentially the same scum list.

Be a man come out and say that you dont like me so you dont care when I die, not this hurr durr Elli is my god and his semen is nectar shit

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Citation needed bro when we're both town he's lazy and I carry.

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even the game we faked masons when he was really a mason they Nked me not him lmfao

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4 people voted A in the last 2 pages because they see Totoscum

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And even if we get Eddie that's fine too.

nobody else in A is in any danger

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why? he lurks and sucks as both alignments

like he's he's on my scumlist but its certainly less of a guarantee.

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whats your Toto townread based on?

What was your whymafia read?

do these answers change if i tell you Dan is town

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dan sticking to his convictions on you scum is very much in line with his townplay and not how he would deal with Elli coming in and promising us you're town.

Also it's a :soulread:

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whats your Toto townread based on?

What was your whymafia read?

do these answers change if i tell you Dan is town

this was at creature btw not u bulb

[checkersman7]

dan sticking to his convictions on you scum is very much in line with his townplay and not how he would deal with Elli coming in and promising us you're town.

Also it's a :soulread:

And there's a 0% chance that can be manipulated

Right?

never been wrong so

[checkersman7]

InactionDan + EddieFenix
Majiffy + Thor665
Desperado + unsure now

dan is town replace accordingly pls

[checkersman7]

InactionDan + EddieFenix
Majiffy + Thor665
Desperado + unsure now

dan is town replace accordingly pls

Probably most likely traitor rather than goon.

you didn't hear me. TOWN.

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that's sitewide so

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So he's town and you're just a baby with a sore ass

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oh were you having an existential crisis

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LuV this game would be better if you didn't post can u take a page out of assembles book

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My posting has been better than yours.

incorrect

also I think your reads are worse than random

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Ass' sig literally says he is inactive as both alignments.

And yet people accept his /ins

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I think in A it’s Bulb/Dan/Eddie

I guess this is about the same hit rate as random

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There’s no case against Assemble or Toto.

Toto and WhyMafia posting both sucked

Dan is fucking town

Bulbazak I'm not looking at and wont have to because the scum is Eddie and Toto.

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You’re engaging him like you think he’s scum :/

elli doesn't engage scumreads except to meme

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chesskid you too where the hell did you get vlfare town because that one better be meta

I feel it in my heart

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There’s no case against Assemble or Toto.

I believe that you forgot that idon't give a fuck about cases and I'm sure it is the same way with a few others here.

cases are scummy and meta is trash

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I'm his strongest townread actually

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he already is from when I was a 'scumread'

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I can't have a partner cause I'm town, what's a secret agent though?

[checkersman7]

Welcome to Surreptitious II: Secrecy and Misdirection

You are Town Secret Agent aligned with Town.

During the Night, your abilities are conditional.
If there are 7 or more players in your Group, you can target a player at Night and receive a list of players who performed an action on a player and a list of players who were targeted by that player, but not what the actions were. Essentially, you both Track and Watch your target.
If there are 5-6 players in your Group, you can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor. The roles which have guns are Mafia Goons and Town Power Roles.
If there is 4 or fewer players in your Group, you can determine, in some sense, whether a player has an ability that can kill another player. You will get a Guilty if targeting a Goon who can kill but doesn't on that night.

You win when all the Mafia have been eliminated and there is at least 1 Town member left alive.

Game thread is Here [Link].

[checkersman7]

Welcome to Surreptitious II: Secrecy and Misdirection

You are Mafia Secret Agent aligned with Mafia.

During the Night, your abilities are conditional.
If there are 7 or more players in your Group, you can choose one player per Night to block from performing his or her night action.
If there are 5-6 players in your Group, you can choose one player per Night to block from performing his or her night action and also stop all other Night actions from affecting them in any way simultaneously.
If there are 4 or fewer players in your Group, you can cause that target to investigate as the exact opposite of what they would have been. If you target the target of the Town Power Role that has 7 or more people in that group, then the results of that Town Power Role get interchanged with each other. Players who the PR's target targeted will be seen as targeting the PR's target, and vice versa (essentially swapping the Tracker results and the Watcher results).

You win when all the Town have been eliminated from a single Group or nothing can prevent this and there is at least 1 Mafia member left alive.

Game thread is Here [Link].

[checkersman7]

what's a secret agent though?

[checkersman7]

I fail

[checkersman7]

Your question is sort of role fishy now that I think about it

why is this thinking just now

does a town player come in see a question that makes no sense and jus ignore it

[checkersman7]

when did you realize secret agent was a role in the game

and why am I guiding you through a process that should be obvious to a town player

[checkersman7]

My question to you is pretty fuckin scummy because it risks outing a PR on a replace ins understanding of game rules.

So you outted yourself as not PR without realizing it, attacked me for pushing you for different reasons, then realized the setup then didn't think back on that then mildly townread me and only now realized hurrr checkersman7 is a danged rolefisher is that about how it went down ?

[checkersman7]

where's the town thought process in any of your actions my dude

[checkersman7]

I think you're goon didn't read the setup wanted to push back hard then realized I'm a bad push for scum to make so changed your read and didn't want to reopen the can by calling me on the fishing, because that woudknt go with the new appeasement strategy.

your turn

[checkersman7]

Toto your partner claimed secret agent is that correct?

predecessor*

I can't have a partner cause I'm town, what's a secret agent though?

Everyone whose anyone

you're just mad I caught you with the ole 'ur predecessor' trick

I'm not mad though. You asked me a tricky question that no one could answer in not an uncomfortable way and you are trying to get me mislynched for it. Scum are know for making big deals out of small things -- it's an olde scum trick.

I see your ISO has shitload of posts with not a single one with a decent case on it, or a single town tell (to be fair I have not read all of them yet, hence my question).

Come, 1v1 me.

I mean what tho?

[checkersman7]

I mean he alrdy had so

but its ok he's the goon

[checkersman7]

Im a vt who had not read the game or setup, realized you were asking scummy questions pushed you for it, went and read the game realized you were not as scummy as I originally thought, found transcend to be more scummy than I originally thought, re read our exchage, realized there was a more plausible town motivation for your question. Tried to make piece, realized the full implications of your question.

Now here is a question for you. Why didnt you clarify the question when I answered the wrong one?

this is a timeline but this isn't motivations

[checkersman7]

whatcha think ellibereta

[checkersman7]

even ramcius understands why a group B vote is bad

voting B is basically a scumclaim at this point

[checkersman7]

I also literally don't care how good you think your scumdar is lynching in B is dumb

[checkersman7]

talk to me on day like 5

[checkersman7]

for example no-one is saying Eddie is town and we don't lose the game if he is

[checkersman7]

Has eddie actually attempted to scumhunt in any way shape or form no win 2 days or does he blow his daily post whining about me/the posting in the game/criticizing people but not making alignment stances?

[checkersman7]

Idk the supposed 'expert' BT is completely untrustable after Xyzzy

I haven't ever played with town eddie (meta is trash anyone) but this is the same worthless posting he did when scum

[checkersman7]

It's why I have a lot of trouble with players like LUV

CMM

etc

I will forever want to lynch them because I don't accept 'oh my meta is to suck as town and I'm sucking this game' as a valid reason not to lynch somewhere