Open 701: Pick Yer Power X/Y Game Over!

mutantdevle · Post Post #275 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:12 pm

Are you trying to say that that’s the reason for voting? Because if so then clarity is helpful (keep that in mind for your future votes).

Viomi · Post Post #276 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:27 pm

In post 275, mutantdevle wrote:Are you trying to say that that’s the reason for voting? Because if so then clarity is helpful (keep that in mind for your future votes).

It was pretty clear.

CityElectric · Post Post #277 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:12 am

In post 196, Creature wrote:
In post 188, CityElectric wrote:No time like the present to actually contribute some to that, instead of just pointing this out. I've asked you some questions on your motivation for your reads and actions, as have others. You not addressing any of those does not sit right with me. At this point, it looks to me like you're just throwing out reads and statements to make it look like you're scumhunting and contributing to the game, without actually providing anything.

In post 88, Creature wrote:What I'm worried about mutantdevle is that he has no idea of how mafia works here.
So I'm thinking his rolefishing is town motivated even if it's pretty bad.

This isn't an answer to any of the questions I asked you in 136, but thanks for pointing out yet again you think mutant is town and why that is. It took wilky voting you and explicitly asking you what we should focus on for you to actually start focusing on someone else and starting to contribute. Now, here's the thing: Creature's posting style makes it very hard for me to connect them all so I can get a coherent idea on where he stands. However, it overall looks very reactive, instead of proactively trying to hunt scum. Even the possible somewhat proactive 18, never got properly followed up upon, i.e. analyzing the reactions it got. While some of this may be attributed to simply playstyle, I feel like it's more of a scummy way of playing than a town one.

In post 263, pisskop wrote:
In post 223, Aster wrote:Pisskop is active lurking really badly. I'm not sure whether I can even call it "active" lurking anymore.
no.

im skimming for my name from.time to time. active lurking is waay more active than i am right now

You're just skimming for your name from time to time, yet you magically appear to post an intent to hammer out of nowhere. That intent to hammer also doesn't align with 264 at all. In fact 264 and 159 don't even seem to come from the same player. What happened between 264 and 159 that made you change your position so radically?

VOTE: pisskop

Chip Butty · Post Post #278 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:55 am

In post 251, wilky wrote:
In post 240, Creature wrote:
In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:

Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.

In no particular order yet...
What do you think about this, wilky?

Just looked through Aster's ISO and I don't see anything of not there either.

Chip Butty what exactly were you referring to about Aster was it him talking about the 1-7 situation or was it him trying to analyse what the mod had said afterwards that caught your attention?

Creature what are your views on this quote?

It was the 7-1 stuff that caught my eye. Mostly just early game stirring to get things moving. Not worried about Aster currently.

Chip Butty · Post Post #279 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:03 am

I'm tempted to policy vote Pisskop, but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town, in my experience. But no lylo for him if he doesn't start contributing at some point.

Chip Butty · Post Post #280 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:05 am

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

Elmo TeH AzN · Post Post #281 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:54 am

Vote Count 1.5

CommKnight -
Creature - (2) wilky, Chip Butty
northsidegal -
Aster - (1) Creature
texcat - (1) Pisskop
Viomi -
mutantdevle - (4) northsidegal, texcat, Lalendra, Commknight
pisskop - (4) MisaTange, Aster, Viomi, CityElectric
Chip Butty - (1) Assemblerotws
Lalendra -
wilky -
CityElectric -
MisaTange -
Assemblerotws -
No Lynch -
Not Voting: mutantdevle,
With 14 Alive. Takes 8 To Lynch. 7 To No Lynch.
Deadline Timer (expired on 2017-12-10 12:00:00)

wilky · Post Post #282 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:05 am

In post 278, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 251, wilky wrote:
In post 240, Creature wrote:
In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:

Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.

In no particular order yet...
What do you think about this, wilky?

Just looked through Aster's ISO and I don't see anything of not there either.

Chip Butty what exactly were you referring to about Aster was it him talking about the 1-7 situation or was it him trying to analyse what the mod had said afterwards that caught your attention?

Creature what are your views on this quote?
It was the 7-1 stuff that caught my eye. Mostly just early game stirring to get things moving. Not worried about Aster currently.

What would be scum motivated from it? Maybe he could have given up on it a post or two earlier as nothing could be done about it which has already been mentioned but when initially brought up it was perfectly valid and fine to ask.

Creature · Post Post #283 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:09 am

In post 277, CityElectric wrote:Even the possible somewhat proactive 18, never got properly followed up upon, i.e. analyzing the reactions it got.

Helped me get a townread on mutant and possibly plenty others.

Creature · Post Post #284 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:29 am

In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?

Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

Creature · Post Post #285 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:29 am

In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town

Yeah, this.

wilky · Post Post #286 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:35 am

In post 284, Creature wrote:
In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

Why a CommKnight wagon?

Chip Butty · Post Post #287 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:24 am

In post 284, Creature wrote:
In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

In post 285, Creature wrote:
In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town
Yeah, this.

If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?

Chip Butty · Post Post #288 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:25 am

^town, not own.

Viomi · Post Post #289 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:27 am

In post 287, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 284, Creature wrote:
In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

In post 285, Creature wrote:
In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town
Yeah, this.
If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?

Probably because anti-town playstyles are just that. Basically, there's a chance he's scum, but even if he isn't, he's making the game harder for us to win, so...

Chip Butty · Post Post #290 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:29 am

In post 282, wilky wrote:
In post 278, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 251, wilky wrote:
In post 240, Creature wrote:
In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:

Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.

In no particular order yet...
What do you think about this, wilky?

Just looked through Aster's ISO and I don't see anything of not there either.

Chip Butty what exactly were you referring to about Aster was it him talking about the 1-7 situation or was it him trying to analyse what the mod had said afterwards that caught your attention?

Creature what are your views on this quote?
It was the 7-1 stuff that caught my eye. Mostly just early game stirring to get things moving. Not worried about Aster currently.

What would be scum motivated from it? Maybe he could have given up on it a post or two earlier as nothing could be done about it which has already been mentioned but when initially brought up it was perfectly valid and fine to ask.

Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.

Chip Butty · Post Post #291 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:31 am

In post 289, Viomi wrote:
In post 287, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 284, Creature wrote:
In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

In post 285, Creature wrote:
In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town
Yeah, this.
If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?
Probably because anti-town playstyles are just that. Basically, there's a chance he's scum, but even if he isn't, he's making the game harder for us to win, so...

Why are you feeling the need to supply answers on his behalf? I was interested in what creature had to say for himself.

Viomi · Post Post #292 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:32 am

In post 291, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 289, Viomi wrote:
In post 287, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 284, Creature wrote:
In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Yay I got ignored again.

Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.

In post 285, Creature wrote:
In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town
Yeah, this.
If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?
Probably because anti-town playstyles are just that. Basically, there's a chance he's scum, but even if he isn't, he's making the game harder for us to win, so...
Why are you feeling the need to supply answers on his behalf? I was interested in what creature had to say for himself.

I mean, it seemed pretty evident?

Creature · Post Post #293 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:41 pm

I wanted to see where the pisskop wagon would go, maybe I could end having a better idea on pk slot and plus some other players.

wilky · Post Post #294 (ISO) » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:42 pm

In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:
Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.

iioa?

CommKnight · Post Post #295 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:54 am

In post 293, Creature wrote:I wanted to see where the pisskop wagon would go, maybe I could end having a better idea on pk slot and plus some other players.

VOTE: Pisskop

I'm still pretty okay with lynching Mutant if I can drop hammer by day's end. But got enough days left to bark up Pisskop's tree again.

pisskop · Post Post #296 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:24 am

prodles

Chip Butty · Post Post #297 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:52 am

In post 294, wilky wrote:
In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:
Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.

iioa?

Information instead of analysis

Lalendra · Post Post #298 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:01 am

Sorry, I've been reading but apparently didn't post recently. Nothing much has changed for me, I want to lynch Mutant but would also be down for a pisskop lynch.

wilky · Post Post #299 (ISO) » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:22 am

In post 297, Chip Butty wrote:
In post 294, wilky wrote:
In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:
Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.

iioa?
Information instead of analysis

So what makes it different to you talking about information on the draft and whether scum could talk during it then?