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I doubt that scum were really in the draft.In post 50, wilky wrote:In post 46, mutantdevle wrote: Additionally, what role you chose may be reflective of your alignment. Eg. a cop isn't very likely to be chosen by scum.
Right, so letsALLroleclaim then. I mean that will solve the whole game right?
You keep talking about scum being effected by the role being chosen first and that it could damage scum. Who's to say you didn't want to find out because you're scum and want to know if the kill would be successful tonight then?
Furthermore, why wouldn't mafia take cop if they had first choice? I mean I know it doesn't benefit them as much as town but if scum were to take roles such as cop early in the draft they could stop town from having them roles so roles are not AI at all.-
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In post 73, wilky wrote:
Even without reading the rules count the number of players in the draft list then count the number of players in the game...In post 72, Chip Butty wrote:@texcat : can you point out where it says in the rules that scum participate in the draft?
@wilky : the usual way?
This is my first u-pick game. Is it usual for scum to participate in the draft?In post 74, wilky wrote:In post 72, Chip Butty wrote:@texcat : can you point out where it says in the rules that scum participate in the draft?
@wilky : the usual way?
This is my first u-pick game. Is it usual for scum to participate in the draft?
And if scum didn't participate in the draft then the game would be solvable straight away as the guys not in the draft would be the scum team.
Actually, there are 14 players and 16 available roles.In post 75, northsidegal wrote:
i mean, 14 out of 14 players are in the draft order - i'm not sure whether i believe this or not.In post 72, Chip Butty wrote:This is my first u-pick game. Is it usual for scum to participate in the draft?
Obviously, scum would have ro be listed in the draft order or, as wilky points out, it would be game solved. But that doesn't mean they really participated in the draft.
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We have a winner!
Wilky & NSG : didn't you read the setup info? If so, why not point me to that like texcat just did?-
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I just feel that linking to the setup, or at least pointing me to it, would have been a more natural reaction to my question.In post 91, wilky wrote:
I didn't have to read the setup info as I knew how it worked. Why didn't you go find it yourself?In post 89, Chip Butty wrote:We have a winner!
Wilky & NSG : didn't you read the setup info? If so, why not point me to that like texcat just did?-
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You didn't have it to hand? Lol what does that even mean here? Do you need your secretary to pull it from the file room or something?In post 94, wilky wrote: As I said, I didn't have it too hand as I didn't need to read it. Now can we leave it at that and get on with the game instead of having some off-topic smokescreen about who should be finding stuff for you?-
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Okay let's get serious then. Your first post of the game you voted creature. Do you want to stick with that? Why? Why not?In post 97, wilky wrote:Sorry but defensive about what exactly? I'm trying to take the game away from off topic conversations and on to more game related content. I'd be more inclined to believe that keeping an off topic conversation going would be a scummy thing to do.
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You could have just said 'Look at the setup'.In post 99, wilky wrote:
I didn't have a link for it... I shouldn't have to go looking for it for you.In post 98, Chip Butty wrote:
You didn't have it to hand? Lol what does that even mean here? Do you need your secretary to pull it from the file room or something?In post 94, wilky wrote: As I said, I didn't have it too hand as I didn't need to read it. Now can we leave it at that and get on with the game instead of having some off-topic smokescreen about who should be finding stuff for you?
Why are you trying to keep off topic conversations going? Sounds to me like you're trying to hide something.
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This looks like a 'leave me alone!' vote rather than a genuine 'you're scum!' vote. Tell me, what is my scum motivation for drawing attention ro myself like this?In post 102, wilky wrote:
I told you that scum participated in the draft... Surely that's better than saying look at the setup
Firstly, you played a "I don't know how this setup works" trick to look more town, then you took the conversation off topic and tried to keep it off topic, seems scummy to me.
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And how have you yaken the game forward?In post 105, wilky wrote:In post 104, Chip Butty wrote:
This looks like a 'leave me alone!' vote rather than a genuine 'you're scum!' vote. Tell me, what is my scum motivation for drawing attention ro myself like this?In post 102, wilky wrote:
I told you that scum participated in the draft... Surely that's better than saying look at the setup
Firstly, you played a "I don't know how this setup works" trick to look more town, then you took the conversation off topic and tried to keep it off topic, seems scummy to me.
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Keeping yourself acting in the game thread but doing nothing to actually take the game forward.
Okay, let's do that now. If i wasn't bugging you about the setup stuff, who would tou be looking at as scum right now? Who would you be voting for?-
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That whole sequence where he is banging on about the draft order. It doesn't seem to lead anywhere useful.
Bear in mind these are just early game reads. You have to start somewhere, though.
Speaking of which, it seems weird that you're bugging me about moving the game forward, but when i invited you to do just that, you couldn't (or wouldn't )...-
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Like i said, it looks like a 'leave me alone' vote. That attitude of leave me alone comes more from scum than town, I think.In post 109, wilky wrote:
Surely to make a defensive vote you would have had to make a push on me no? What exactly about my vote was defensive?In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:
Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.
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@mutant:
You've implied you think those at the top of the draft order potentially have the most powerful roles, and that scum will nk accordingly. You are only 5th in the lynch order yet you say if you claimed you would definitely draw the nk? How does that work?
Also can you give a specific claim tex could have made that would be beneficial to town? Why do you think you needed to prompt her to fakeclaim, and why did you think your prompt would inspire her to do so, if she hadnt6already thought of it herself?-
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This can be read as 'Hey, we want to shoot you, you're not a PGO or anything, are you?' it seems to me now to be a bit blatant if from scum. Maybe just moronic. However, elemwnts of mutant's later defence worry me a bit.In post 35, mutantdevle wrote: Speaking of which, Texcat, are you going to tell us what role you chose? Since you are the first in the draft order you are guaranteed to have a PR. Hence you are the most likely candidate for the scum to shoot.-
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It was the 7-1 stuff that caught my eye. Mostly just early game stirring to get things moving. Not worried about Aster currently.In post 251, wilky wrote:In post 240, Creature wrote:
What do you think about this, wilky?In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:
Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.
In no particular order yet...
Just looked through Aster's ISO and I don't see anything of not there either.
Chip Butty what exactly were you referring to about Aster was it him talking about the 1-7 situation or was it him trying to analyse what the mod had said afterwards that caught your attention?
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In post 284, Creature wrote:
Yay I got ignored again.In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.
If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?In post 285, Creature wrote:
Yeah, this.In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town-
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Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.In post 282, wilky wrote:In post 278, Chip Butty wrote:
It was the 7-1 stuff that caught my eye. Mostly just early game stirring to get things moving. Not worried about Aster currently.In post 251, wilky wrote:In post 240, Creature wrote:
What do you think about this, wilky?In post 108, Chip Butty wrote:If i had to pick 3 right now:
Wilky for being squirmy and casting a defensive vote.
Mutant for blatant and ill-advised role fishing.
Aster for too much setup spec.
In no particular order yet...
Just looked through Aster's ISO and I don't see anything of not there either.
Chip Butty what exactly were you referring to about Aster was it him talking about the 1-7 situation or was it him trying to analyse what the mod had said afterwards that caught your attention?
Creature what are your views on this quote?
What would be scum motivated from it? Maybe he could have given up on it a post or two earlier as nothing could be done about it which has already been mentioned but when initially brought up it was perfectly valid and fine to ask.-
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Why are you feeling the need to supply answers on his behalf? I was interested in what creature had to say for himself.In post 289, Viomi wrote:
Probably because anti-town playstyles are just that. Basically, there's a chance he's scum, but even if he isn't, he's making the game harder for us to win, so...In post 287, Chip Butty wrote:In post 284, Creature wrote:
Yay I got ignored again.In post 262, Creature wrote:Anyone up to wagon CommKnight?
Though, I'm sorta fine with pisskop wagon.
If you agree with me that pisscop is likely useless own, why are you fine with a wagon on him?In post 285, Creature wrote:
Yeah, this.In post 279, Chip Butty wrote:but these useless playstyles usually turn out to be town-
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Information instead of analysisIn post 294, wilky wrote:In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:
Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.
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You realise you are asking him if he would be okay with his own policy lynch, right?In post 311, Aster wrote:In post 310, pisskop wrote:from a theory point its a crapsack AtE and from a game progress point its a stagnant soft push- Beats around the bush.
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Sentences begin with a capital letter. And it is 'comma'.In post 301, pisskop wrote:that coma is extraneous.-
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Simple. I was actively scumhunting at the same time.In post 299, wilky wrote:In post 297, Chip Butty wrote:
Information instead of analysisIn post 294, wilky wrote:In post 290, Chip Butty wrote:
Some setup spec is okay as long as gamesolving is also being done. That wasn't the case here. It was getting into iioa territory, at least enough to warrant an early-game poke.
iioa?
So what makes it different to you talking about information on the draft and whether scum could talk during it then?-
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This doesn't make sense at all if you are town. If you are town then you know 100% you are town, and commonsense says a warm town body is more valuable than the time that would be saved.In post 335, mutantdevle wrote:I think most people have completely forgotten the time role over mechanic of this game.
I’ve decided if either myself or pisskop reaches L-1 then I will hammer as to not unnecessarily waste time.-
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Yeah, nothing protown here. Might as well get ot over with.In post 401, pisskop wrote:Ive been poked. Im also on a laptop atm.
If I have time and feel like it Ill even read up some.
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Probably as antitown and apathetic as your play.In post 409, pisskop wrote:Im actually morbidly curious to see just how anti-town and apathetic today's lynch can be.
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Basically, vote who you find scummiest. If nobody stands out, vote for info. If there's not much info to be gained, vote troll.In post 421, Aster wrote:Observations:
- Everything pisskop says is intended for the sole purpose of infuriating players;
- Ergo, pisskop is a classic troll;
- The only way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.
Also, the "add user as foe" function of this site seems to be broken: pisskop's posts are still showing up. Does anyone know if this can be fixed?-
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What's dionaea?In post 440, pisskop wrote:don't talk vote..
chippy choppy, how do you feel about my _mayyybe_ voting wilks but not you?-
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In post 417, pisskop wrote:
His play screams Eager Beaver. I wonder if mutantscum would be capable of ranting along for so long as a wriggling scumlord.In post 244, Lalendra wrote:I find it funny that Creature keeps referring to mutant being newbtown when a) they've played on another site together and b) mutant has made it very clear that he is not new, that he has played before, and that he does not want to be discounted as a new player.
In post 277, CityElectric wrote:You're just skimming for your name from time to time, yet you magically appear to post an intent to hammer out of nowhere. That intent to hammer also doesn't align with 264 at all.In fact 264 and 159 don't even seem to come from the same player. What happened between 264 and 159 that made you change your position so radically?
VOTE: pisskopWhat Change in What Position???
This post is tryhard. note it, love it, hold it. Its a bad post.
K Im bored.
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-mayyyybe assembles or wilkyIn post 440, pisskop wrote:don't talk vote..
chippy choppy, how do you feel about my _mayyybe_ voting wilks but not you?
I think you are being remarkably inconsistent and need to explain.In post 456, pisskop wrote:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DionaeaIn post 453, Chip Butty wrote:
What's dionaea?In post 440, pisskop wrote:don't talk vote..
chippy choppy, how do you feel about my _mayyybe_ voting wilks but not you?
chippy, how do you feel about my null read on wilks but not you
Earlier, you said me v Wilky was scum theatre.
In the first quote you say maybe vote Wilky but not me. No word about what changed your mind about me.
Second quote you asked me about that.
Third quote you imply you have a null read on Wilky but not me. Again you hae changed your position with no explanation.-
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If you are being inconsistent, you need to explain yourself, just like anyone else. You need to convince us you are town. So, explanation please...In post 460, pisskop wrote:i refer you to my post about how its crap meta to need to mansplain to you about my feels-
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Right on. Cuomo has been hard lurking and has barely made any impact on the game.
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FoS @ Lalendra. Pisskop is now playing the game and has been for a while. My problem with him right now is he is question dodging and generally not gamesolving.In post 479, Lalendra wrote:I really don't like pisskop's posts or playstyle this game, but I don't know if he'd be trolling so aggressively as scum. I do think he's a liability to town, and I'm willing to put him at L-2.
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In post 473, Creature wrote:The only real scumread I have rn is CommKnight.
Though, I believe there's scum among these "creature, mutant and pisskop are all scum gg"
The good ole chainsaw defence...In post 474, Creature wrote:like Viomi, CityElectric and Chip Butty mainly.-
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@CityElectric: this kind of snarky comment isn't unusual for me, as either alignment.In post 98, Chip Butty wrote:
You didn't have it to hand? Lol what does that even mean here? Do you need your secretary to pull it from the file room or something?In post 94, wilky wrote: As I said, I didn't have it too hand as I didn't need to read it. Now can we leave it at that and get on with the game instead of having some off-topic smokescreen about who should be finding stuff for you?-
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@CityElectric: this and subsequent posts where he tried to explain the question to texcat were the reason I voted him at 63.In post 35, mutantdevle wrote:I feel like you shouldn't have mentioned that tbh. Because now any person who chose the number 1 will know that someone who did not choose 7 has the PR they wanted if they don't have a PR themselves.
Speaking of which, Texcat, are you going to tell us what role you chose? Since you are the first in the draft order you are guaranteed to have a PR. Hence you are the most likely candidate for the scum to shoot.-
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I like this.In post 185, Viomi wrote:
Even if mutant were town, you don't think seeing people's opinions on him and how hard they push him etc. is productive?In post 171, Creature wrote:I don't want this day to be extreme unproductive so I'd:
- End the mutant wagon
- Ignore mutant and hunt scum elsewhere
- Choose a lynch without it necessarily needing to be mutant