Micro 759: Tarot uPick III - Game Over!

[drealmerz7]

woowoooo

[drealmerz7]

I'm curious if anyone was ballsy+funny and chose the hanged man (YA KNOW, CAUSE IT'S MAFIA!)

I know there's been other tarot Upicks and so that joke might not be so original but IT'S A FIRST FOR ME AND I'M AMUSED BY THE THOUGHT

I got my first choice!

but I did not get scum

which I gotta say, I think the mafia gods are conspiring against me

I haven't rolled groupscum since MARCH

I really wanted to be scum in a game with nancy and manipulate the FFFF out of her, but, boohoo

will make the best of it

this is a micro - NO USELESS LURKSACKS OR I WILL ON YOUR ASS

[drealmerz7]

ohmy

I forgot my verb there

fill it in with whatever verb you like!

[drealmerz7]

enter the kali yuga!

[drealmerz7]

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[drealmerz7]

SCUM IN THEIR BOOTS

[drealmerz7]

So TPFKAP/drealmerz7 maybe not wolves together.

why?

[drealmerz7]

ooooo

did it suggest anything else?

[drealmerz7]

you should just trash that deck then, it's brokened

[drealmerz7]

oh no!!!!!!

noooo

):

[drealmerz7]

varsoon, you mean you don't want me to claim at L-1 with a youtube video?

[drealmerz7]

okay you no good no gooders

THERE WILL BE NO MERCY

[drealmerz7]

Porkens replaces TPFKAP. Please welcome him!

why you !!!

you!!! ...

*shakes fist*

hahaha

[drealmerz7]

Images are even a bit a problem, given the multiple avenues for breaking the game that they present

fuck I miss the 80s and 90s or whenver that woman's hair is from

[drealmerz7]

hi

Wolfy.

villagery

[drealmerz7]

dunker, why?

[drealmerz7]

VOICING YOUR TRS GETS THEM KILLED / HELPS SCUM PLAN

DON'T DO IT

[drealmerz7]

I think it means nancy is already FUCKED UP

[drealmerz7]

I townread Dunkerdoodles.

HEY!

what did I just say?!

*shakes fist*

[drealmerz7]

I prefer not to get fucked by men.

this is actually how I interpreted it but I wasn't going to go there

[drealmerz7]

nancy is scum trying to wooooo me with Star Trek gifs!!!

[drealmerz7]

this is actually how I interpreted it but I wasn't going to go there

It wasn't how I interpreted it I'm just being gross to get reactions.

well then !

even when you don't get fucked by men, you're getting fucked by men

I've been fucked by men and I've never been fucked by a man!

hmmm though I suppose I've fucked myself ? hmmm

deep thoughts

by Jack Handy

[drealmerz7]

I TR Jabarkas Mayonnaise.

^ Obviously white.

well he is a porcine

[drealmerz7]

This seems forced.

dunno what to tell you

it flowed free with ease like like melted cheese in the breeze

[drealmerz7]

DAYVIG: NANCY

LOVE YOU!

[drealmerz7]

damn

I killed the mood

WTG, d!

[drealmerz7]

shall I perform a burlesque routine?

[drealmerz7]

nancy going to flip scum and then we'll see if the Day ends

[drealmerz7]

do mods put vigs in micros?

[drealmerz7]

certainly not

not me ever

with seriousness

it's a general question

and a tipping of the hand (that I'm not really a vig because I know nancy is sad that she is scum and thinks she's been killed so soon)

[drealmerz7]

I have never eaten white bread

[drealmerz7]

or mayonaise

[drealmerz7]

+n

[drealmerz7]

yes, we do

[drealmerz7]

what's the answer?

[drealmerz7]

the SR on you is real and a strong feeling

other reads are being held in reserve and quiet atm

only intentions I have for playing are to keep it fun and enjoy

AND MUTILATE SCUMMMMMS

[drealmerz7]

Oh I didn't realize.

I don't believe this at all

you're too astute / pay too much attention to all the details for this 'oopsie'

[drealmerz7]

aye, it's more than a feeling, there are thoughts with the feelings as well, with multiple indicators

I could maybe write a paragraph or two about it but my head is kind of wobbly with focus so don't really want to force myself to do that (been a really hard past 2 days)

getting to your RQS, I love RQS, DOWN WITH RVS

[drealmerz7]

why do you think I'd make that kind of lie if I were scum here?

because you thought it was innocuous enough to not be anything and you're a little thrown off after I fakeshot you, which I don't think would have happened if you were town

[drealmerz7]

is that true, jabarkas? are you lazy?

[drealmerz7]

1.) I'm a recluse / almost a shut-in on the east coast US but I have no schedule and stress has made my sleep WHACKED lately so I could be posting at any time it just depends - obviously I have the ability to post a lot, but then I could say FFFFFF mafia for 3 days and post like once, who knows!

2.) I'm an ultimate master (but I'm not arrogant about it, HAHAHAH *belly laugh if I had a belly*) and no one knows it and I don't play to my potential most of the time the past year+ because of stress sapping my focus and energy - I don't think I let this inform my play because of my awareness of lack of reaching potential in most games - I just do whatever comes most of the time - I know I'm better as scum than town

3.) manipulating town because it's way more fun (plus I'm better at it but I don't think it'd matter if I sucked at it it'd still be my preference) and I kind of think the game is more "a game of manipulation and deceit" than "a game of cooperative teamwork to route out evil" - though I think I treat the game as more of a team game than a lot of players

4.) varied and intentionally hard to read - I can be blatant towny if I want but I never have been keen on doing that because of always fearing the NK (didn't realize when I started playing the complexity of NK decisions so I started off playing "I'm not going to be easily read as town because I don't want to get NKed!" and I like it / it works for me) - the role I roll highly influences how I decide to play

[drealmerz7]

1.)

What makes you think I'm the kind of scum player who would

be thrown by a fake dayvig in that situation and why wouldn't I have been thrown if I were town? Given that I'm quite aware of how

we've both been trying to coordinate playing a game together for a while

now I would think it should be fairly obvious to you that I'd know it was fake even if I were scum and

didn't think we were still in pre-game.

1.) this is a generalized stance you're wanting me to answer rather than the specificness of this game, look to the pink as to why it threw you and because

2.) you knew we weren't in pre-game anymore and thought I'd actually caught and shot you already

you wouldn't have gotten thrown as town, you'd have gotten pissed

you'd have also checked to make sure if we were still in pre-game or not if you didn't know when you saw the dayvig and then, if town, gotten pissed because you'd have realized we were no longer in pre-game

[drealmerz7]

why?

[drealmerz7]

why do you think that?

why do you think nancy asked the ?s

[drealmerz7]

yeah the goal definitely isn't to get into a spat with you

I'm not "completely convinced you're lying", but it's a strong read that you are

I'll concede that if I were an actual vig I'm not sure I'd have shot you so hastily (and PROBABLY wouldn't have given fear of being wrong + us finally in a game together) - but I also don't do the fake vig shooting lightly or arbitrarily (otherwise in future games it becomes useless)

[drealmerz7]

and the 2nd part of that, LUV?

why do you think nancy asked the ?s

[drealmerz7]

that STILL doesn't answer why you think she posed the questions for us to answer...

[drealmerz7]

that's not straightforward at all, remember, no one else is in your brain but you

okay, so, why do you think she wanted to do that?

[drealmerz7]

so you think she wanted to take a page from regfan, but you don't know why she would want to do that

that seems counterintuitive, I think if you have a thought that she'd want to do that, there must be a why that sets up that thought in the first place

[drealmerz7]

nancy, any of your pre-game stated reads real?

[drealmerz7]

LUV, what if I simply asked you

what is your availability like for the game these days?

does that get a response? if so, what makes it something to respond to that the RQS question isn't

I don't see how you can just write-off something because "RQS is meaningless" unequivocally (shit I'm not sure I'm using that correctly atm)

[drealmerz7]

meh, I ALMOST plopped a vote there, but it is damn early, and I am pretty conservative with my vote placing

in general probably changing the vote more than 3 times in a Day is too much

what do you mean by your "townplay is very open", and why do you think that might be a problem for me?

I like consolidated posts and walls more than individual posts, ftr

jabarkas, what power dynamic is it that RQS attempts to establish? can't quite follow that

[drealmerz7]

aye, we've barely played together, 2 games I think but we were both dead early (err, you were dead early in both!)

[drealmerz7]

funfun!

new territory is nice (:

[drealmerz7]

I wanted to lynch him because he was state!

[drealmerz7]

ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

[drealmerz7]

it's been rattling around in my head I had to get it out

[drealmerz7]

ooogabooga, I haven't had the presence of mind/focus and energy for the game but with it being early D1 I'm not sweating it too much I'll have plenty of time to catch up and respond before long

LUV maybe you should replace out before it gets too much more into the game

[drealmerz7]

hey,so, THAT game is over

I am still behind on sleep and exhausted so not focused enough for this glorious feast, but, I shall be, I shall beee!!!

should be able to get into this and get caught up in the next day+

(hopefully) our journey together is just beginning, so while it may be mlah that I'm not alll up in it party present, it shall come!

[drealmerz7]

HAH! ^

[drealmerz7]

v, I am just skimming a bit atm because I'm a little spent after maplewood, not really taking anything in or focusing at all, but it's only because the Day is long and it is a micro

it's the sort of game that can have early lulls and be okay imo, and I'm taking advantage of those things atm so I can get into it more going forward, as it appears I have some stuff to address!

I'll certainly do my dilligence before it gets too much longer in the Day, and am looking forward to when I look forward to it :þ

[drealmerz7]

I care! like I said, and explained

varsoon's ire sounds a little faked, I think you know how it is / can be, varsoon, and with the things I said (early D1 micro) it's all good

it'll form and be a thing without AFJAL;KFJAODFJGOOO

[drealmerz7]

well don't get ahead of yourself, it's not 72hrs until deadline :þ

*hands you a pickle*

[drealmerz7]

not being an enabler, seriously, just relax, give me a little more time, and don't get ahead of yourself on worrying about the lurk yet, it's pretty good so far, actually

it'll come around, patience!

I need to read thoroughly and catch up to have thoughts on the current gamestate

that takes focus, focus requires energy and energy requires rest and I'm recovering from a handful of days of unrest, that is more it than maplewood

I'LLBEONIT

sooo, you want a pickle?

[drealmerz7]

pickles are green

[drealmerz7]

if the pickle is not green BEWARE, it may not be a pickle

[drealmerz7]

I WON'T LET IT COME TOO LATE

[drealmerz7]

:O

[drealmerz7]

spicy pickles

*makes them available to all*

[drealmerz7]

pickles almost sounds like piggles

[drealmerz7]

porkens is a pig

miss piggy is a pig

the kermit

hmmmmmm

deep thoughts

[drealmerz7]

I was prodded

I am going to try really hard to read what I've missed come tomorrow and give some comprehensive reads

in the mean time have a cool picture of this vegetable skeleton

Spoiler: cool picture

[drealmerz7]

don't have to solve the game on D1

I am reading and catching up

rather than do piecemeal I'm going to just try and keep all my thoughts present in mind and write a little paragraph or two when I'm done with my thoughts on the game state

[drealmerz7]

me being disengaged is mostly not alignment indicative but if it were to be AI it would be more likely town because I roll town A LOT and don't like it so much but my lack of engagement is mainly because I haven't been able to focus for a bunch of days but I'm working on that please bear with me and try not to create 10 new pages in the meantime

I am often very much engaged in games you can figure if I'm not there's good reason

[drealmerz7]

short version so far:

biggest scumleans are:

dunker
nancy
northsidegal

don't really feel like there's anyone I would mind lynching though maybe nancy because if I'm wrong there it'll make me really sad to have offed her on D1 but that's not happening anyway sooo

*shrug*

I've realized that as I read through I have zero energy to push anyone even the slighest to generate better reads and am hoping that will change soon because I think it will be fun to get into it with you, nancy, once in the right headspace for it but in the meantime I'm kind of apathetic about today's lynch (I mean as long as it's not me)

[drealmerz7]

how is any of that getting in your way or indicating that I'd get in your way?

[drealmerz7]

I said you are maybe the one person I'd mind lynching today

[drealmerz7]

*hides behind you* (no I'm not softing hider, this is a joke about side-eyeing)

[drealmerz7]

no, as I said, I don't have the energy atm to make a push and it wouldn't make sense for, even if I did make a push, my push to have much weight on today considering I've not done much

[drealmerz7]

wouldn't that just be getting in the way as indicated in 690?

[drealmerz7]

what about my 688 made you think I'd be doing either of those?

[drealmerz7]

I have such a hard time believing that you didn't read beyond that :þ

general thought is a lot of that sort of thing ^ it seems like you're playing at angles rather than shooting straight / almost reinventing a new reality that you can be believed in (like trying to totally negate any validity to anything in pre-game by saying "oh that was pre-game I wasn't really playing yet")

[drealmerz7]

and you just did it again

[drealmerz7]

if I had more to elaborate on when I gave the names I would have

I mean I do have more thoughts on them, and everyone, but, nothing I think is meaningful to share currently, because if I did think that I'd have done it

the 3 ppl I want to lynch least today (aside from myself) are:

nancy
jabarkas mayornoise
acidphoenix

[drealmerz7]

I don't like the WC "unexpected" but, I do understand where you're coming from I think, but, to be sure

why unexpected?

[drealmerz7]

why would you expect me to want to lynch an uberlurker on D1 in a micro?

[drealmerz7]

I fucking hate lurker lynches on D1, ftr

[drealmerz7]

because they are the least informative lynch for D1 and in a micro it's even worse because of the shorter game

[drealmerz7]

I fucking hate getting rolled by lurking mafia

aye, no lurkers on D2 onward in a micro, and there shouldn't be any in D1 in a micro, but there are, so, with that, gotta make smart moves

[drealmerz7]

drealmer what if I say I'm deciding between lynching Yetichain and lynching northsidegal today and your thoughts on why you want to lynch northsidegal might tip the scales, would you then think that it is meaningful to share your thoughts?

I prefer to live in 1 reality at a time

[drealmerz7]

it's not like I don't want to lynch yetichain

[drealmerz7]

I am aware :þ

that should indicate to you that I don't want to influence your scales

[drealmerz7]

Since you mention it though, do you want to lynch Yeti or do you just not not want to lynch Yeti?

that's a good question all I've got for you is I could go either way ? which is more indifference which is more the "not not" option but I could totally see myself getting some enthusiasm there without much to make it happen which would turn it into "want"

[drealmerz7]

I am aware :þ

that should indicate to you that I don't want to influence your scales

Okay, you won't influence my scales then. Now can you tell me your thoughts?

ahhh, again, shifting reality (:

[drealmerz7]

I am aware :þ

that should indicate to you that I don't want to influence your scales

Okay, you won't influence my scales then. Now can you tell me your thoughts?

ahhh, again, shifting reality (:

Now that is a stretch.

this is funny

how about this one? is that a stretch?

[drealmerz7]

aye indifference is more the not not options

[drealmerz7]

I am aware :þ

that should indicate to you that I don't want to influence your scales

Okay, you won't influence my scales then. Now can you tell me your thoughts?

ahhh, again, shifting reality (:

Now that is a stretch.

btw I think this is nancy gaslighting me in a mafia game? doesn't bother me it's funny

[drealmerz7]

only if they've had a prior pattern in the same game would I likely say that

[drealmerz7]

the general scenario would be gut based during an active wagon build and it (the enthusiasm) could go either direction at that point - that is where the sense that it could happen came from, I imagined that happening and realized I could get enthused by it, potentially, if in the actual moment it felt right

[drealmerz7]

only if they've had a prior pattern in the same game would I likely say that

Right but you said "again", suggesting it was like the previous times but it has no meaningful relation.

says you :þ

I'm not saying it DOES, I'm saying it COULD, given that's how I've felt about your interactions with me so far in this game

you saying it has no meaningful relation simply emphasizes the point of potentiality imo

[drealmerz7]

I don't understand why you're so reluctant to talk about someone you're scumreading in a world where it's not at all unlikely that they could be lynched.

scumleaning

no SRs in the game :\

[drealmerz7]

well, except you, but it's not a hard read

[drealmerz7]

which is why you were listed as a lean

[drealmerz7]

I don't understand why you're so reluctant to talk about someone you're scumreading in a world where it's not at all unlikely that they could be lynched.

I'm tired and lazy consider my vote there as of this time tomorrow

[drealmerz7]

shocking

[drealmerz7]

you're getting in your own way btw as you were seemingly worried I was going to do to you when I started in thread tonight (:

[drealmerz7]

You're talkative in a way that suggests cognizance, relatively manipulative but you're not really here and I don't think it's due to your mental health.

it is a combination of that (mental health) and not being fully caught up still which I've got some shame about so am trying to cover up

[drealmerz7]

I know nancy dropped the whole spiel on being conservative with her vote, but why should I consider your vote someplace when it isn't there, drealmerz?
Just vote.

-V

I hate voting when I'm not fully caught up

it makes me sick to my stomach

[drealmerz7]

(:

[drealmerz7]

yes

[drealmerz7]

I crack myself up

[drealmerz7]

that saying is very frustrating because as many times as I've tried I can't even hit 1 bird with 1 stone

[drealmerz7]

and then I hear about all these people HITTING TWO WITH ONE

like wtf are you throwing them at flamingos?!?!?!

[drealmerz7]

I don't follow that one but I want to laugh at it?

[drealmerz7]

I'm guessing flamingo is a word with some other meaning

[drealmerz7]

considering yesterday felt like saturday and tomorrow is thursday I think I'm doing okay

[drealmerz7]

imtobed

hopefully to sleep

[drealmerz7]

NK15 is a fine lynch wtf are you changing? I was about to hammer

[drealmerz7]

imo ppl try to get waayyyyy too much out of D1 and that is why shit tends to suck around here

you don't need to solve the game on D1, you need to find a good lynch, yes, that is hopefully scum, but a ppl stress wayyyy too hard about finding scum on D1 you more just need a good lynch

[drealmerz7]

it's a fucking 9player game there is very likely not a vig

[drealmerz7]

Very easy for you to say that drealmer when you make it to LyLo in most of your towngames.

it has nothing to do with that it's about game approach

the least amount of effort should go into D1, but ppl constnatly break their fucking brains, good-will, motivation and enthusiam for playing on D1 because they give it the most effort, and then by default less and less effort goes into the following Days

[drealmerz7]

but hey let's have 3+ claims on D1 in a 9p maybe we can still win

[drealmerz7]

If you want to vote somewhere, vote somewhere. Why wait for hammer?

who said I was waiting for hammer?

again, you try to paint some other reality

[drealmerz7]

I feel like porkens or nancy knew NK15 was flipping town and felt exposed and unvoted there is no reason to unvote there at all that was a good lynch

[drealmerz7]

Very easy for you to say that drealmer when you make it to LyLo in most of your towngames.

it has nothing to do with that it's about game approach

the least amount of effort should go into D1, but ppl constnatly break their fucking brains, good-will, motivation and enthusiam for playing on D1 because they give it the most effort, and then by default less and less effort goes into the following Days

You don't get it. Don't worry.

don't be like that

you need to admit that, if you're town, you've been trying way too fucking hard for this D1 and that is what is causing you your grief about the game, alter your approach, you'd enjoy the game more

[drealmerz7]

I'm not scum, you just aren't liking how I'm playing

[drealmerz7]

wanting to hammer a good lynch is not playing like scum

dispelling a good wagon near EoD is

[drealmerz7]

D1s need to be shorter

when is anyone going to get the clue?

[drealmerz7]

again, I wasn't waiting to hammer...

[drealmerz7]

not sure your issue? wanting vs. waiting, two different things

I wanted to hammer, then unvotes happened

I wasn't waiting for anything ?

[drealmerz7]

huh?

I probably would

[drealmerz7]

when I feel this uncertain about this many ppl I'm more comfortable being a later vote as it gives me a better feel for all the angles/associations

when I don't have a specific 1-3 that I am super-set on wanting dead, I'm more hesitant to vote

no, I'm not waiting

[drealmerz7]

hmmmm

wonder if I'd be ballsy enough to even come close to hammering if I were scum this game after being the scum hammer on 3 town lynches in wolf-blitz

hmmm, yeah I'd probably be

[drealmerz7]

fuck all pretty much I think that is pretty clear ?

I was telling you why I'm not voting, since you were taking issue with my not voting

[drealmerz7]

or perhaps I've done more than is blatantly obvious

maybe I'm doing what I'm doing with reason

maybe I'm just a lazy fuck

[drealmerz7]

maybe I've cracked the game but am sure no one will believe me so I'm laying low until the right point to strike

[drealmerz7]

I wasn't trying to nitpick I was trying to understand your issue so that I could clarify accurately

did I say others should be doing more? that's fucked if I did!

[drealmerz7]

I don't have any reads that I think are good to share

unless you want me to start playing like alisae and telling you the 10 reasons 1 thing could be 10 different things

[drealmerz7]

whereas those aren't reads, just guesses

[drealmerz7]

I really do suck on D1 most of the time

[drealmerz7]

are you able to tell me who you're not willing to lynch? I can't really see a clear picture of that

[drealmerz7]

Sure, but why is that something you want to know? Aren't you averse to talking about townreads and shit? Not willing to lynch Porkens, Varsoon or Dunkerdoodles today.

I never asked you for townreads

I really do suck on D1 most of the time

Why are you saying you suck if you think you've caught the team? Besides I've seen you catch mafia on day 1 in morph's game. Try not to be negative please.

did I say I thought I caught the team?

I said I suck on D1 most of the time, but really what I've been learning is that I need to trust myself more with how I feel/what sense I have about things on D1, my intuition is stellar, but if I don't have a sense of anything I can't force it, and even so I'm still not always right (duh)

[drealmerz7]

like I said, because I didn't really have a clear sense of that, though had I had to guess, I would have guessed porkens and varsoon, but I wasn't sure at all

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: not known 15

at this point I can easily switch to nsg or dunker

[drealmerz7]

ummm, only your flip tells me your alignment?

[drealmerz7]

I guess more simply

I asked because I wanted to know because knowing helps me see associations more clearly

when there are only 2scum I think it is much easier to crack the game when I've got associations mapped out, but even so, it's something I like to have a sense of in all games

[drealmerz7]

it doesn't tell me anything in regards to my read on your alignment until we start getting flips and associations start to form a picture with

p-edit: it's not that I don't want to talk about NK15, it's that I'm not so sure it'd be helpful (and so am erring on the side of caution)

[drealmerz7]

I'm playing as if the game is more difficult rather than easier (because if you're scum I'm going to have a hard time getting you lynched, I think)

meaning in case scum is playing a very good game, I want to be careful

I don't know why you're so itchy to get a better read on me, do you not have enough reads for your D1? it's really better to try and sort me as the game goes on because even if I'm being blatantly towny I do that as scum pretty well and hasty reads on me are badddddd

come at me tomorrow if I'm still being a slackfuck

[drealmerz7]

well I'm certainly not advocating that no one give reasons

[drealmerz7]

like, I'm not getting NKed (very likely not anyway), so my ability to tell thoughts has future potential, so it's not so crucial

[drealmerz7]

I understand wanting me to engage more and share more and I'm sorry that me not is so frustrating I'd probably be frustrated too but it's what I've decided to do and so either SR me for it and push me as scum or let me do my thing and relax about it

[drealmerz7]

I'm just naturally insatiable. Besides, I joined this game basically just to play with you so I'd like to actually have a chance of doing that. And if I'm going to be reading you as the game goes on, then this now is going to be part of that anyway.

You kind of are advocating that people don't give reasons just by giving no reasons yourself since presumably you're playing this game in a way that you believe to be optimal.

yeah, I wish I wasn't so paranoid of you being scum it'd be more fun I wish we were just scum together :\

not at all advocating that ppl don't give reasons - I'm not sure what I'm doing is optimal, it's what I think is probably better than other options is all, maybe I'm wrong, but assume I did think it were optimal it doesn't mean I'd think it optimal for everyone to be doing it, but for me, in this game, in this current gamestate on D1

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I only get frustrated when I get into fruitless talks about the semantic properties of "waiting" and "wanting".

interesting because I found that to be an important distinction (or at least important to establish that I in no way was/am "waiting to hammer")

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and to elaborate on that, I thought it was important to establish that, not because I didn't want to be seen as waiting to hammer, but because I didn't want you to control that view, in case you are scum manipulating perceptions of what was going on

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Any hope of a reason on NK15 before I go out to listen to some poets in the city?

so tempting

and I even typed something out

but if I am correct (in what I was typing, not in NK15 being scum), typing that out pretty much helps scum

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I got a bit of a rush of anxiety almost entering what I typed

phew

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oh and for that insatiable issue...check out lelo

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enjoy!

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"varsoon, you don't want to lynch yeti today right?"

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wait....hoy might be "now" not today

fuck...

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been too long

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ya it was more like a "test the waters for someone that is suspicious because they might be protective" rolefish

kind of

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he's kind of like a deformed not fully grown head though

just kind of bobbing at the side of the main head with not much capacity to do much

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that is not "attempting a counterclaim"

ugh

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@Drealz: He's saying that he's suspicious of someone's alignment because their roleclaim is very close to what his own role is.
When explained that a closed setup doesn't allow for counterclaims, he then votes elsewhere and rationalizes that similarity in roles could be a 'setup trap' and not be indicative of alignment.
How is that anything other than a counterclaim?
-V

you're assuming he's being completely forthcoming and not manipulative or shady

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milquetoast.

great song!

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I'm ready to see the color of someone's blood...

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WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA

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not trying to defend acidphoenix just saying that I get strong unreasoned reads as town quite often

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Recently spiel on Yeti's claim is scum-oriented thinking

elaborate, it must be pretty glaringly holyfuckingscum-oriented thinking if less than 24hrs ago he was on your 'not going to lynch today' list

I had some of the same thoughts v did - and I don't find lovers likely in a 9p

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It's in your hands, Porkens.

oh and why this???

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I should have hammered nsg but I was trying to give people time to say things

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calm, my man, please

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lurkers had nothing to do with your lynch

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if it makes you feel any better I had you as pretty likely scum from early on but was giving it time because I'd have hated to be wrong

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nancy, I want to claim a bit, it's relevant-ish

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but acid+dunker might be waiting on just that

their silence is weird after what's been said though for sure

it makes me suspicious of dunker - I found / figured him for scum easily in our last game together and pushed him to lynch on D2

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so my inclination is just him being super cautious

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oh, I don't know that I really want to lynch NK15 anymore, more leaning not

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no, I don't think it'd be helpful at this point

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that's not what it is at all, it's what I think is best for my team, silly

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it's because they're related

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your pool is tainted with townbloood

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can we just speedlynch acidphoenix slot? :þ

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sorude

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I thought either acidphoenix OR NK15 had to be scum

at first I was leaning NK15

now I lean acid

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I wouldn't ever see it as a blunder just an attempt to skew how things look / sell the wifom

*shrug*

not like I'm going NO WAY NK15 is scum, not in the slightest, I'd even vote there, but I prefer acid at this point / lean more there

of course this is going on the figuring of there only being 2 scum

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I think my lynch preference order is

acid
nsg
dunker
NK15

but would be pretty sure we'd have scum dead by eliminating the 1st two there and feel like game is in the bag-ish

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I don't see Porkens hammering his scumbud there at all

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I wouldn't ever see it as a blunder just an attempt to skew how things look / sell the wifom

Why wouldn't you see it as a blunder? He has a townread on NK15, he obviously can't vote there since he's been hard defending the slot, he has a townread on northsidegal, if he joins either major wagon he's voting a townread, doesn't make sense as town there to vote nsg and he wasn't pushing alternatives, wasn't doing much at all to convince anyone that Yetichain was mafia, didn't look like he was desperately voting just anyone in order to prevent a no lynch. Unless he's mafia with NK15 that play is a blunder and is never optimal, if he's mafia with NK15 then it's a blunder that he let the gamestate get to that point but shy off defending NK15 more and subtly encouraging people to hop onto northsidegal he has no choice but to vote northsidegal there in order to save his bud.

mmm I guess I am not too clear on the timing of it all, was thinking he had more awareness of his likely lynch at that point

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that too

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I SR LUV's replace out really hard btw

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welcome, scum!

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lots of time

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maybe it's just arrogant but I think town LUV would be more wanting to play with me than scum LUV

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in general spats are good, just not what I was wanting to do with nancy on D1 in this game

actually I've discovered I am not into getting into spats too much lately, it's not in me

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102 post is plenty early enough to vote a scumbud and have plenty of time and cushion to come off it before it's anything

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I'm not off the idea that NK15 could be mafia at all, def could be

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again, if dunker or acid are not, then I'd be looking to NK15, for interactions with varsoon, for other things I've already said or have been said plus some things not said that are better not said like I said

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nah I was talking with jabarkas about not really liking some of NK15's doings yesterDay