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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:26 pm

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Hi guys, I am your friendly IC, Lil Uzi Vert. An IC is a voluntary teaching position and I am obligated to follow this and thus I cannot lie about game theory.

Most IC's will tell you to read the wiki and I agree, you should. It's a great resource but it is not a bible. Of particular note are Commonly Used Abbreviations and glossary and as always feel free to ask me anything.

I’ll be adding more stuff as we go along but the best way to learn is from experience so if you haven’t already, jump in, be active, and have fun! :]
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:35 pm

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In post 74, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Didn’t get a day start PM :lol:
This threw me as well. I'm obsessive about games I join or I'd probably still be dicking around on tumblr. lol
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:39 pm

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Okay, pretty solid IC post.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:46 pm

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VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 6, SaulJoker wrote:Hello everyone!

What's your favorite color?

VOTE: RedFlavor

Am I doing this right?
Uh were you talking about RVS? If so, there is no right or wrong way, just let things flow naturally :]
In post 14, Inferno390 wrote:And so it begins.
VOTE: Inferno390
Because inside jokes.
In post 15, RedFlavor wrote:
In post 12, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 8, RedFlavor wrote:Red is my color in this game and it is my favourite flavor, not color
this is a scumclaim
sheep me

i want to see 9 votes on red now
gosh I need to vote myself for that

VOTE: redflavor
No. No. Self-voting is a big no no.

Self-voting early is a deliberately provocative act. Sometimes a deliberately provocative act can generate useful discussion, however making yourself easy to attack will mean it's easier for scum to attack you in a way which blends in with how the town attacks you. As such DPAs more often lead to noise and confusion, although self-voting is not really any more egregious than any other DPA.

‪If the town is incapable of generating discussion any other way, a DPA is useful, but most of the time it is a very sub-optimal way of getting people talking. ‬

‪The other applications are the self-hammer, which is often valid for scum and very, very rarely appropriate for town‬.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 26, Sunset at dawn wrote:I guess I'll vote sheep. It seems kind of weird to want so many votes on red.
Vote: Sheep
‪What do you find weird about it? Are you town reading Red or just find that so far, there are no valid reasons to suspect him?‬
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:05 pm

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In post 53, Aviqf wrote:Although inferno's posts are awkward, I don't think this shows scum. I look at his past games, and his wording is just as awkward.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=73591
‪Avi, out of curiosity, what’s your mafia experience? How would you describe the way you scum hunt?‬
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:59 pm

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In post 73, Aviqf wrote:
In post 60, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
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how much of do you think was forced?
I don't think this is what you wanted to say. You are asking inferno if he thinks his own post was forced?
yes that's what i want from him
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:01 pm

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In post 72, Aviqf wrote:Everything in that list is relative, so I'm not like reading SD as strong town, just a slight to medium town read.

SD's questions look genuine. Asking Saul why he wasn't posting, then backing down was a minor gesture, but I read it as town.

Saul's caution looks town.

Creature isn't as much scum as anti-town. He literally said he wasn't going to help until LUV posted.

Red is just playing recklessly, which is an easy thing to do. However, it can be risky. I think a townie is more inclined to take that risk. He also was very pro-town, his scumclaim which lead to the wagon got us out of RVS.
why do newbies force everything
wagon this pls
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:42 pm

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recklesness isnt a towntell, caution is definitely not a towntell, backing down isnt a towntell, youre misrepresenting creature here
he said he would keep his vote on luv until the post, and that wouldnt be long enough for it to be anti town
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:58 pm

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hi redflavor threaddodging is bad
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:05 pm

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You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:06 pm

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it all pings me
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:09 pm

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In post 86, Sunlit Diamond wrote:You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.
This post looks like shading sheep imo
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:23 pm

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Wall Post incoming!
Spoiler: Wall post!
In post 41, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Why are you scumreading someone who got speedwagoned in RVS, inferno?
In post 42, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Although scumclaim + self vote = eeeeeeeeh
Okay, so I feel like the timing of sheep saying that Red was a "scumclaim" and then Red voting himself seems really weird.
In post 48, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 23, Inferno390 wrote:F) The timing of this seems a little fishy. (Perhaps that's just me.) And Red wasn't that oblivious to his L2, was he? Could Red and Sheep be scumpartners doing a little RVS back and forth? Seems unlikely, considering this IS a Newbie game, but you never know...
what does a newbie game have to do with scumpartner voting patterns? i dont see how voting back and forth in rvs is necessarily indicative of alignment either
I think that considering this is a newbie game, newbie scum are less likely to do this sort of banter.
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how much of do you think was forced?
Why the heck would you ask me this of my own post? Of course I don't think it's forced at all, it's my post! :roll:
In post 68, Sunlit Diamond wrote:Inferno was so transparently, unfakeably, town in art deco it was painful. His 23 does not seem out of line with my experience there, but I'm curious to see him in a 1v1 here for that reason.
The 1v1 will come. And it will be very obnoxious, and it will involve a lot of wall posts, and just annoy everyone in general. Just like last time. :giggle:
In post 82, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 73, Aviqf wrote:
In post 60, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
@inferno
how much of do you think was forced?
I don't think this is what you wanted to say. You are asking inferno if he thinks his own post was forced?
yes that's what i want from him
Again, why?
In post 83, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 72, Aviqf wrote:Everything in that list is relative, so I'm not like reading SD as strong town, just a slight to medium town read.

SD's questions look genuine. Asking Saul why he wasn't posting, then backing down was a minor gesture, but I read it as town.

Saul's caution looks town.

Creature isn't as much scum as anti-town. He literally said he wasn't going to help until LUV posted.

Red is just playing recklessly, which is an easy thing to do. However, it can be risky. I think a townie is more inclined to take that risk. He also was very pro-town, his scumclaim which lead to the wagon got us out of RVS.
why do newbies force everything
wagon this pls
I don't understand this at all. Why is this forced? And why would you call for wagon?
In post 88, RedFlavor wrote:
In post 86, Sunlit Diamond wrote:You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.
This post looks like shading sheep imo
But what Sunlit says is true. Sheep is saying that all the newbies are forcing their reads. I'm liking Sheep less and less here...
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:24 pm

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that's a wall pshh
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:26 pm

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In post 89, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 48, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
In post 23, Inferno390 wrote:F) The timing of this seems a little fishy. (Perhaps that's just me.) And Red wasn't that oblivious to his L2, was he? Could Red and Sheep be scumpartners doing a little RVS back and forth? Seems unlikely, considering this IS a Newbie game, but you never know...
what does a newbie game have to do with scumpartner voting patterns? i dont see how voting back and forth in rvs is necessarily indicative of alignment either
I think that considering this is a newbie game, newbie scum are less likely to do this sort of banter.
we arent scum together, but neither of us are newbies btw
In post 89, Inferno390 wrote:
In post 60, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
@inferno
how much of do you think was forced?
Why the heck would you ask me this of my own post? Of course I don't think it's forced at all, it's my post! :roll:
it is forced. town force post sometimes, this is the response i was expecting scum to make
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:27 pm

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Also, Sunset seems to be lurking quite a bit proportionally and not very sure of herself. Just not very good or newbscum? :?
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:29 pm

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i am your temporary substitute ic INACTIVITY =/= LURKING BTW
not that sunset's inactive
not that lurking is a newbtell either

where do you get the "not very sure of herself" from?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:31 pm

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In post 88, RedFlavor wrote:
In post 86, Sunlit Diamond wrote:You appear to be very intent on discrediting everything Avi has to say and I'm not quite sure why.
This post looks like shading sheep imo
that would be because that post IS shading sheep.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:33 pm

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In post 92, Inferno390 wrote:Also, Sunset seems to be lurking quite a bit proportionally and not very sure of herself. Just not very good or newbscum? :?
You know better than this inferno. Sup.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:00 pm

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gonna take a look at the thread again soon, been a little busy IRL
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:18 pm

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BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:19 pm

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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:19 pm

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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?

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