Newbie 1843 - Game Over

[Nauci]

Ooooooo we've finally gotten to the meaty suspicions posts stage of the game

Not gonna lie I started seeing someone on New Year's and have mostly spent my time with him this week so I've not been as F5 happy as I usually am

I need to do a rereading for something more in depth because I currently have very little read on Locke and Shattiel (not even really enough for a null, like I have on Cabd and TNE.

Feeling kinda good about Brass, confused as usual on Alonzo, and bad about Dalven and Velox.

VOTE: velox

Give more content pls tia

Cabd I wanted your opinion on the "town should ALWAYS state why they think someone is suspicious" policy brought up. I've sometimes held back to give someone more opportunity to incriminate themselves, so they didn't see what I thought was suspicious and correct the behavior. I've never known if this is a good or foolish strat that takes info away from town, however.

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.6

Nauci (2) - Alonzo, Shattiel
Velox (2) - Locke113, Nauci
brassherald (1) - thenewearth
thenewearth (1) - Dalven


Not voting (3) - Cabd, brassherald, Velox


With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Friday, 12th January, 7.15 pm GMT, (in (expired on 2018-01-12 19:15:00)).

Dalven and thenewearth have been prodded.

[brassherald]

You know what?

I'm still totally on board the Velox wagon. Same reasons as before just extended to this page. Typing one handed, not fun.

VOTE: Velox

[thenewearth]

Prod response post

[Velox]

beep beep all aboard the velox wagon

[Alonzo]

beep beep all aboard the velox wagon

Your plan starting to bear fruit?

[Velox]

yep

[Nauci]

beep beep all aboard the velox wagon

Your plan starting to bear fruit?

What do you know about velox and how do you know it

[Alonzo]

I'm sensing Velox is Either a bit timid here, Or actively trying to buy the D1 lynch

[Nauci]

I'm sensing Velox is Either a bit timid here, Or actively trying to buy the D1 lynch

Why do you think that, what effect do you think it would have, and what did you mean by plan?

This all stinks to high heavens to me.

Velox, what do YOU mean here?

[Shattiel]

That's it. I was going to wait and see how things would go but it's too quiet. Scum is definitely a newb who doesn't have confidence and that they would rather go under the radar than lead.

I'm putting Velox on L-1

VOTE: Velox
If someone intends to hammer then they should do it now.

Also prod Cabd

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.7

Velox (4) - Locke113, Nauci, brassherald, Shattiel
Nauci (1) - Alonzo
brassherald (1) - thenewearth
thenewearth (1) - Dalven

Not voting (2) - Cabd, Velox


With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Friday, 12th January, 7.15 pm GMT, (in (expired on 2018-01-12 19:15:00)).

Cabd has been prodded.
I'm looking for a replacement for Dalven who hasn't picked up his prod.

[thenewearth]

I'm up for a hammer if he's not gonna talk

[Cabd]

Not hammering. Sorry, was sick over the weekend.

I have a question for Velox first.


Velox, are you aware of the slayer's gambit?

[Velox]

I'm sensing Velox is Either a bit timid here, Or actively trying to buy the D1 lynch

Why do you think that, what effect do you think it would have, and what did you mean by plan?

This all stinks to high heavens to me.

Velox, what do YOU mean here?

im shitposting

[Velox]

Not hammering. Sorry, was sick over the weekend.

I have a question for Velox first.


Velox, are you aware of the slayer's gambit?

the what

never heard of it

[Velox]

this post is dedicated to when I flip town

[Cabd]

Not hammering. Sorry, was sick over the weekend.

I have a question for Velox first.


Velox, are you aware of the slayer's gambit?

the what

never heard of it

Then ~WHY~ are you, as you call it, shitposting, exactly?

[Locke113]

I'm still on the Velox wagon here, not getting a good feeling from him. I can understand the Nauci feelings.

For now:

unvote

Side note I am going to be a bit less wordy for a bit, slipped and hurt my arm and my left hand's fingers are not feeling full strength right now. So, either forgive me if you actually liked all my words or rejoice if you didn't.

You know what?

I'm still totally on board the Velox wagon. Same reasons as before just extended to this page. Typing one handed, not fun.

VOTE: Velox

What changed between these two posts that made you decide to go from not voting anyone at all to voting Velox, especially since your reasons for why you find them scummy seem to be the same in both posts? Also too bad about your arm, hope you get better soon

I'm sensing Velox is Either a bit timid here, Or actively trying to buy the D1 lynch

Why would Velox try to do that? It doesn't benefit Velox at all whether they're scum or town

That's it. I was going to wait and see how things would go but it's too quiet. Scum is definitely a newb who doesn't have confidence and that they would rather go under the radar than lead.

I'm putting Velox on L-1

VOTE: Velox
If someone intends to hammer then they should do it now.

Also prod Cabd

Why are you so sure that scum is a newb?

Also how quickly this wagon developed from just me voting Velox to L-1 is slightly concerning to me, I find it unlikely that the wagon would move so quickly without at least one scum on this wagon already. If that is the case, I'm not sure whether they're just bussing their partner, which I find a little weird when there's still four days to try to avoid lynching their partner, or what but still I'm slightly uneasy.

this post is dedicated to when I flip town

If you're going to flip town then why not act more like town? There is a certain amount of indifference to having a wagon on you that I can understand from town as you know you're not guilty and so feel it shouldn't be too hard for other town to see that but your "shitposting" is taking that too an extreme that just loops back round to you looking scummy for not seeming to care at all

[brassherald]

The change was really just time. The more I thought about it the more I still didn't like Velox's posts.

[Huntress]

HeWhoSwims replaces Dalven.

[HeWhoSwims]

Hey everyone, subbing in for Dalven. Will be reading the game asap, working on a little bit now but I'll try to get through it all tonight. Looking forward to a great game!

[HeWhoSwims]

Thoughts reading through the game:

Spoiler:

Not a big fan of Velox on page 2 in posts such as 30 33 36 but this is tonereading which is very possibly not AI enough to lynch someone.

Cabd @51 wouldn't that vote just be RVS? Then again 52 isn't exactly screaming town to me either, I feel it is defensive and it takes offense to what I see to be an RVS vote. And it had just been said that the 3rd vote is "just a wagoner" (I can see that argument)

Not sure I agree with my own slot on 56. Last on the wagon obviously are the ones directly responsible for a mislynch but that could be town being wrong + scum wouldn't "quickhammer" so to speak if it's not L-1 I think...

I like 58.

Since Cabd's townread page 1 is discussed... I find it reasonable that he thinks brass-experienced might not be scum together because of the question by brass, but it's a very weak/shaky townread (obviously)

Alonzo asking questions is a good thing and I am liking the fact he talks about that early Nauci-->Cabd vote here. (87)

Tne making sense in the 90s post range I guess although RVS at this point is probably not so incriminating.

96 is interesting, didn't catch that Nauci said she isn't lynching cabd for info posts, although that makes sense if we have no incriminating claims/CCs towards cabd at day's end.

If Velox is town he better start contributing.

Shattiel replaces Guga here

102 shows effort done (meta diving) which I would consider townie (it's contributing to discussion). Although 52 is in the back of my head. Then it's followed by 112 which takes away from the former post again :/ There wasn't any question about PRs and it's very well possible someone like cop or tracker is just killed N1. As others said we don't get there solely through night actions.

I like 121. Clear explanation.

Not sure about the "I don't care" attitude of TNE but it's not very AI for now I guess.

Hmmm 134 is something I hadn't picked up on but I wouldn't say all of the posts are NAI... He has some stuff I quite like, such as 74 113 and slightly 117 119. and I'm actually slight TR on Cabd for now. And a number of NAI posts =/= bad. Obviously if it gets out of hand it is but I don't feel that's the case for now. How are people saying Shattiel didn't list a reason to vote though...? I thought the reason was that they thought cabd was doing NAI stuff.

Shattiel doing the pressure vote is okay but I'm not too much a fan of lynching Cabd at this point in the thread.

What is 152? I have trouble figuring out the exact reads here. Also - care to elaborate on your pretty firm brass townread?

Alonzo questioning again. Is good for discussion. His other posts are okayish.

I like 170.

And that's it folks!

[Cabd]

What is 152? I have trouble figuring out the exact reads here. Also - care to elaborate on your pretty firm brass townread?

Each "tier" is a level down from "lock town"

So the bottom is "most scummy" and the top is "least scummy"

People that share a tier are about the same level. The heading names are just amusing things I make up each time I post them.

[HeWhoSwims]

I'd say I townread these people, more or less in order, and would prefer lynching others over them (and excluding myself of course): Shattiel > Locke > Alonzo > Cabd (although latter 2 could be switched)

Fine with a Velox lynch. Zero contribution. Definitely taking a look at Nauci after that post Shattiel did on her. I'm unsure about brass, since he does... scum-ish stuff that I have tapped on before, but he took the effort to metadive apparently and it could just be newbtown - but that will always be speculation.

TNE I'm null on for the time being. I like the preposition that 3rd vote on a wagon would likely be someone just waiting to join a wagon but mentioning this would either a) make sure scum avoids this place or b) Wagons don't pass 2/3 votes because town AND scum are afraid of taking this spot.

pedit: thanks Cabd. Figured out the ladder but it was just weird "flavor" so to speak