In post 1032, Sando wrote:Inferno wrote:So no matter how Sando spins it, I have been attacked with my meta, so his claim that I haven't been is just not true.
The spin is exactly what I wrote, that since me and RC made single sentence comments about it, you haven't been attacked for it.
Just read that again, because you actually have to read the entire sentence, not just the last 6 words. I made zero, nada, nil, contradiction. I've pointed that out to you subsequently. You're flat out wrong and you continue to push this despite it being shown to you, repeatedly. Here's the original sentence:
Sando wrote:Firstly, I think
since me and RC joining posts
where I think each of us made a single sentence comment about it, no-one has actually used your meta as a basis for attacking you.
This was pointed out to you in 978 that English 101 says you're wrong here. Now you're trying to walk it back without admitting this, saying that it wasn't a scum motivated slip by me. I didn't slip, I was factually correct.
You're desperately trying to undermine anyone that ever attacks you, myself included. You've flailed at everyone who's ever even looked your way. You've been parroting RC who has blithely stated you're 100% town in said flailing and in 1001 is desperately trying to give you a pass on this utter bullshit that you're spouting here. You've now decided that trying to make me look scummy isn't going to work, so you're just going to try and undermine my character by saying I'm old-school arrogant and that I'm "straight out bad".
You're scum, with RC.
There is no way you can spin this where what did not happen was that you said
no one attacked me with my meta and then said this is where I attacked you with my meta.
I'm definitely not desperately "tying to undermine anyone that ever attacks" me. I've responded to each person who attacks me point by point. Not what I would call desperate.
I have not been parroting RC, in fact, my reads on Uzi were developing before RC ever got to this game.
This feels like a huge attack on my playstyle, and incredibly scummy to me.
P-edit:
Reading thorugh what has been posted:
I'm continuing to get scummy vibes from Sando. He's brushing off everything RC says by saying he's using AtA, which is anything but true. And I'm definitely seeing major representation from Sando going on. He's tearing apart anyone who questions his play by attacking the playstyle rather than refuting the points themselves.
And honestly, all it's doing is dragging the game down, so if you're town Sando (which I'm starting to doubt) actually shut your mouth and stop posting for a while. Because all you're doing is making this game impossible to play.
Naveet's progression makes no sense. He went from "risk-adverse approach" to "you aren't being helpful to town" as reason to lynch?
#1045 is really blatant misrepresentation of what I said in #1028. There was no walking back on scumreads at all. I just said that Sando needed to take a major second look at the way he's approaching the game, because that kind of self-contradiction is just poor play. I'm not trying to make Sando look bad at all. I'm just saying that the way he has approached this game is poor, and what happened there shows that.
Naveet, while I agree that RC's posts have definitely gone downhill in quality, do you not think that it's possible that it stems from a combination of LUV and Red's derp tunnel combined with Sando blatantly attacking his play? Because it only got as bad as it did when Sando replaced in, and he ahs definitely interacted with other members of the game in a reasonable way.
I definitely feel like Naveet's list of RC's play is a little bit out of context.
All in all, I can see the reasoning behind Naveet looking at a RC lynch. But I still think that this is the wrong play. If RC flips town likes he says, that tells us what? That LUV and Red had literally no reason to be wagoning him in the manner they are? Because we already know that. And it makes me confirmed town for Sando. And if he flips scum (which we're all pretty sure he's not)? Well, I get lynched tomorrow (which I will say now is very much wrong), and two days from now you'll have no idea whatsoever who RC's partner was. Plus we'll get the whole "I told you so" crap from Sando and he'll bring the game down on our heads.
On the other hand, If we lynch LUV and he flips scum, we an say with rather reasonable certianity that Red is scum by game interaction so far. And if he flips town, that gives us plenty of information to work off of with RC tommorrow.
NOw, I want to propose a third option. Let's lynch Red. His play has been a lot like LUV's in terms of the Saul slot, but worse. And if he flips scum, LUV is probably his partner. And if he flips town, then we can start talking about Avi and some of the other interactions based on Red's play today, which no one has thought to look at yet.
Avi, you are on the LUV wagon, right?
