Team Mafia 2018: Game 3 - Random GIFs Game Over

[Titus]

Doesn't RC normally scumread you, though?

Yes but he usually attempts some effort to engage me first.

[Titus]

Y'all overestimate how easy it'll be to get me lynched. Like I said, very few people have commented on the new info at hand, and almost everyone scumreading me is either 1. doing it off of tone/disagreement or 2. someone I scumread anyway. Bins, you act like it's normal that Radja completely 180's his read on me after I throw a line of shade his way for a laughable "Thanks for confirming you're scum" comment. That shit comes from scum much more often than not. Town doesn't tunnel like that.

And the Titus reads are almost equally ridiculous. Eddie scumread was never overly expanded on, Transcend scumread was for being useless, and Titus is still catching up.

I have decided to fuck reading atm until night phase and decide reads solely based on VCs. Enjoy the usual me.

@Aero, Fucking reading does not mean Zero effort to be involved.

[Aeronaut]

Alright, but that's not what I'm saying. You came in and said you were going to only do reads based on VCs, which is a very townietitus thing to happen, but then immediately ignored that and targetted bins

[havingfitz]

@Fitz: Thought about this last night, but bed and all that: Can you explain why you have a high townread of me? You said nothing about me at all in your catchup, and I would have expected at least some mention of something you agreed with, or even just my tiff with Skirt that led to my taking time completely away from the game. You mentioned the LLD explosion, but nothing about my V/LA that came before that. I found that odd.

@Bulba...I wouldn't call you a high town read. Just a standard ACME townread. On the same level as most of the other trs.

As for not mentioning you...that's usually a good thing in my catch ups. When I catch up in a game I do a quick skim through to note where the votes are and I may or may not linger in a few areas if something catches my eye (like LLD going off). Then I do a complete read through where I make note of anything I think deserves mentioning/exploring. More often than not I mention things I find peculiar or suspect. While I do sometimes comment on things I agree with, it's the exception.

So you are a townread for me atm due to a lack of things I don't like about your posts. Hence no mention in the catch up.

I didn't think anything of your v/la other than it sounded like you needed it.

[Bulbazak]

@Aero: Did you actually read any of the Team Mafia rules?

Yeah, all of them. There an issue?

Yeah, given that scum having day chat is in the Team Mafia rule set.

Doesn't RC normally scumread you, though?

Yes but he usually attempts some effort to engage me first.

Would the added barrier of Key affect that at all?

[Almost50]

@Titus: Get off Bins. She's an Aronis-level read for me. Remember Night and Day. You know what that means. Join me on A50 for great justice!

VOTE: A50

My team really wants to work with you, so I will do that since they have read the game. My initial impression is there is something drastically wrong in Tbone and Bins. RC team might be scum as well as scum RC tends to exaggerate and attack me when I am correct.

I've been waiting for you to do that to confirm which of you/eddie is the scum (probably both still).

[/v]

After careful consideration, Bins is unlikely to be Scum in this game. Still possible, but unlikely.

I'll do more reading all over the 5 games to make sure we lynch Scum in THIS game (We don't want to be the only game w/o a Scum lynch, do we?)

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

@Aero: Did you actually read any of the Team Mafia rules?

Yeah, all of them. There an issue?

Yeah, given that scum having day chat is in the Team Mafia rule set.

Doesn't RC normally scumread you, though?

Yes but he usually attempts some effort to engage me first.

Would the added barrier of Key affect that at all?

It is my belief that RC would ask Key to engage me and my thoughts. I cannot rule your point out which is why RC/Key is lean scum.

[Almost50]

Forgot A50 in lean scum. Please add him.

VOTE: Titus

I don't care if this look OMGUSy as hell. I just KNOW your team has a red PM (probably 2), and the same goes to Fitz'. I just couldn't decide which game it is.

ALSO, CK might be scum (same as above. They have 1-2 red roles, but I'm undecided on the game).

Finally, Elena reenters the pool of suspects. Again, not too sure it IS Elena.

[Almost50]

This is Titus when she replaces into a scumslot. Go ahead and look at her 'needs to die' reasoning, and you'll see it.

I happen to agree.

Also, our replacement (ranmaru) tells me you are TOWN by meta. He says you're tunnely and won't change your mind. So there's that.

[Mathdino]

Well, if we're consolidating wagons,
VOTE: havingfitz
Counterwagon Titus/A50.

A50 scumread is just as balls as it's been since page 30. I'll do a towncase if he actually gets close to being lynched but I doubt that's happening.

I've been reading all 5 games and documenting likely team composition. Without explaining my full reasoning, here's where I'm at regarding the players in this game:

1. T-Bone possible scum in theory.
2. I really don't think Titus is the scum of the team dude. The swap (and some behaviours related to the swap) and some recent tournament flips solidify this.
3. LLDslot by far the most likely scum on that team.
4. Keychain pretty likely to be town.
5. Aeronaut likely town for now.
6. CDB possible scum.
7. Bins possible scum. SKrew townflip means idk who on her team is more likely to go scum.
8. Dunker EXTREMELY likely town.
9. Tossup. Bulba/Ginngie/Fenix all equally likely to take scum.
10. Smocaine less likely to pick scum imo.
11. Townnnn
12. Tossup team. Reck townflip but I'm really not sure now who would pick scum here (this is Radja's team).
13. Another tossup (Elena's team).
14. Mulch flipping scum means they might've had overflow of scum PMs. UCV not cleared by team composition.
15. I'm pretty sure I know the composition of A50's team in full. A50 very likely town.

Edit: Good to know. T-Bone town probably implicates Elena scum going off memory, yeah?

[Almost50]

I'm going to spend the next 4-6 hours ISOing people ALL OVER THE COMPETITION for VCA patterns. 'nough said.

[Mathdino]

Try to focus on Eddie/Transcend/Titus's team, LLD/fitz's team, Keychain's team, and let's say CHESSKID's team.

Also my teammates are gr8 and we tight.

[Bulbazak]

A50 scumread is just as balls as it's been since page 30. I'll do a towncase if he actually gets close to being lynched but I doubt that's happening.

Your townread sucks. Especially if it's based off of that "A50 crumbed they only had 1 scum role" crap from earlier.

You also ignored my questions from my catch up posts. Some of those are pretty pointed and should make you rethink your position on A50. This sudden hard defense of A50 out of nowhere wigs me out.

[Bulbazak]

If nothing else, I want a response to this:

VOTE: havingfitz

It's not Titus.

I think I might have an idea why you switched here, but I want you to say it.

[Almost50]

@Math: If Titus ain't scum HERE, then I'm calling Fitz/Chesskid/Elena for the scum team in this game.

[Mathdino]

I think I missed your questions, checking real quick.

Re: A50: Feel free to get in the line for "People getting wigged out by Math tunneling people as town". Like, either you believe I'm hard-defending a scumbuddy, or you should believe A50 town regardless of my alignment. And if it's a choice between lynching A50 and another person I consider townish, I'd rather A50 alive for having better reads as the game goes on.

Edit: I agree on fitz/Elena, CHESSKIDscum weirds me out though.

[Mathdino]

Wait fitz was LLD and that implies LLD/Elena.

I'd have to think harder about that.

What changed your mind on Bins specifically?

[Elena Fisher]

Hello.

[Elena Fisher]

Almost50:
Me and Chara talked over almost 50 for a little and we're both confident on calling him town we talked over town meta (thought it was best to not go over scum)
and what we got is
1) The fact A50 is trying to run bins up and claim is...stupid but it's something town A50 does to help solve the game
2) the begging to be lynched thing is...quite nai he's done it as scum but he also does it as town for reasons he's already shown (I showed chara quotes and I'm not gonna say why he did it but we both have an idea)
3) A50 isn't someone who is really comfortable being tr by the playerlist like this
"the things A50 are getting sr for aren't things you should sr him for because it's a50"~Chara
Chara knows what they'd be sring A50 for and so far he's not doing it (the opposite actually)
Along with a few other things me and Chara are very comfortable calling A50 town

Anyone who thinks A50 is scum (as I saw before

[Elena Fisher]

I went to bed (hit submit too soon) refer to that post please

[havingfitz]

I'll do more reading all over the 5 games to make sure we lynch Scum in THIS game (We don't want to be the only game w/o a Scum lynch, do we?)

There's been at least one scum lynch. Someone mentioned it in this game.

[Bulbazak]

@Fitz: There's a line of inquiry I want to pursue, but I want to wait until we're both on and talk in real time. I also want to give Math some time to respond as well. Poke me sometime tomorrow and we'll discuss.

[havingfitz]

VOTE: Titus

I don't care if this look OMGUSy as hell.

I just KNOW your team has a red PM (probably 2), and the same goes to Fitz'.

I just couldn't decide which game it is.

Did that hurt pulling this wag out from your posterior? Lol...

There could be teams with 5 mafia or 0 mafia. Trying to infer any of the team possibilities increases odds an individual in one of the games might be scum is bad. Shame on you A50.

[Elena Fisher]

After having a refreshing break a lot of peoples lynch pools seem to be the same (at least in the same group of people) and that's had me a bit worried because I feel scum would try to change the game state of that was incorrect.
My next order of business is sorting Titus given Eddie towned that slot up but Titus and Transcend haven't done it justice