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Post Post #6800 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:51 am

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Spoiler: Neighbor PT Talk
In post 428, Ozgin wrote:Since I'm dying, I might as well drop this bomb:

TSO is the SK. We have a rolecop, and that rolecop is one of these three: {Kitz, Dragon, Shinobi}

Good luck claiming that, though.

Also, I know you're BP, I tried killing you the other night. That or you were protected.

In post 429, Green Crayons wrote:Do you have daytalk with your scum team?

In post 430, Green Crayons wrote:Buttface. Answer me.

In post 431, Ozgin wrote:Can't let you know that, Starfox. I've already said a bit much, don't you think?

Consider it a gift to my favorite slot in this game. Apply what you learned from my manipulation of you and SW to TSO's manipulation of dragon and the rest of town.

In post 432, Green Crayons wrote:I'm traitor, fool.

In post 433, Green Crayons wrote:Let 'em know.

In post 434, Green Crayons wrote:Let me know who they are.

In post 435, Ozgin wrote:You have GOT to be kidding me.

In post 436, Green Crayons wrote:Spill.

In post 437, Green Crayons wrote:Take a leap of faith.

<3

Do it for SW.

In post 438, Ozgin wrote:Then I'll tell you this: I lied about all of those names in the list I gave you. They're all town if you're traitor. TSO is really the SK, we have rolecop. No day talk. Night talk only. I can't tell you 100% because I don't know if you're lying or not.

In post 439, Green Crayons wrote:Alright so you didn't just loud me out in the thread, so you're not BSing about being scum.

In post 440, Green Crayons wrote:Kitz, Dragon, Shinobi

Dammit I thought Shin was scum.

In post 441, Green Crayons wrote:Other scum know TSO is actually SK?

In post 442, Green Crayons wrote:I guess so if you know and aren't rolecop. Hrm, Hrm, HRM. Don't know what to do.

In post 443, Ozgin wrote:Nope. Gah, I wanna trust you, but I don't want it to bite my ass.

Shin is town, Kitz is, and Dragon. I think dragon is a roleblocker/bodyguard/some protective role.

TSO is SK yes, rolecop'd.

In post 444, Ozgin wrote:He might have blocked me, hence why he said something like, "I have good reason to believe Oz shot TSO and missed last night," I think he blocked me and saved you.

In post 445, Green Crayons wrote:Well poop. I had hoped that you were actually town or SK, not a scumbag. Hence the forcing you to claim.

Well, hopefully your role actually has neighbor in it.

In post 446, Green Crayons wrote:No, your kills fail on me per my traitor mechanic. I just won't be recruited.

In post 447, Green Crayons wrote:Though that doesn't mean dragon
isn't
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In post 448, Ozgin wrote:Good to know.

Fuck it, I'll take the leap -- This game is gone crazy anyway. It's Cheetory.

Good luck. I hope this doesn't bite me.

PEdit: You're right. The town was crazy powerful this game. Do you have any other roles?

In post 450, Green Crayons wrote:Just Cheet?

Dang it he's going to get strung up.

Nope. Just Traitor/Neighbor. If Cheet dies, and I'm all that's left, I get the power to kill.

In post 452, Ozgin wrote:Good to know. Cheet is freaking out about TSO, he might shoot him. DAMNIT I WISH I COULD CONNECT THE TWO OF US NOW, This is literally every Shakespearean tragedy setup ever.

There's the good stuff. Pretty much my only activity in the PT. Everything else is 18 pages of SW and Oz.
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Post Post #6801 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:53 am

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The good stuff relative to the GC/Oz interactions.

Other good stuff is undoubtedly in there with other players' interactions. :)
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Post Post #6802 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:56 am

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Surprised you didn't out cheery and get him killed to get your killing power. I don't think anyone would have doubted you were town though some may have asked how you got oz to confess
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Post Post #6803 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:58 am

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No need to needlessly bus!
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Post Post #6804 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:04 am

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Wow GC, you did something I never had the courage to do. I would of loved to out myself to House/Ozgin but I just have a hard time trusting neighbors after what happened in an offsite game where I was put in a neighborhood with 3 scum and one buddied me all game. LOL

That was awesome to see though and yeah, most of the PT is House/Ozgin and I discussing the game. I did try hard to put who I thought was a PR and where I found the crumbs in there and also who I thought would get shot at night. I mean, I'm pretty sure I sounded a lot scummier than I did in my PT with GM. I'm hoping that one and hers/Aero's gets released as well.

Dragon-No, bussing Cheetory would of been a really bad move. Even if it would of meant GC could kill, it would mean he's the last scum.
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Post Post #6805 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:30 am

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Still mad at myself for not realizing the no kill was a mafia traitor recruitment
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Post Post #6806 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:31 am

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Why didn't tso kill gm that night though?
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Post Post #6807 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:34 am

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Mafia traitor can't be recruited. They tried to kill me but traitor can't be NK'd. Ozgin probably though I was BP or something, I'm sure not being able to kill me threw him for a loop since I never told him my role.

GM wasn't killed because she was away visiting me-she neighborized me so the MM couldn't reach her. Like a commuter.
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Post Post #6808 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 5:17 am

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Actually SilverWolf you were told to stop adding to the drama and you're obviously incapable of being straight up front. What did I do specifically in game that crossed a line? I followed the rules it's not my fault as scum you have major issues. Next time you roll scum replace out because you have a clear meta as scum which is trying to create drama around the player who finds you out and acting unnecessarily low because of that.

Nope, I think it's pretty clear you told Wake that you wouldn't play if I did because I'm sure Wake is up front and he made it clear. In fact he offered a solution but knowing your self aggrandizing behavior I told him I was fine with not playing. Better off actually. Your apology is useless because I predicted that you would act like this so words actions dont align. I have a strong personality and lock heads with many people but what happens in the game stays in the game unless it doesn't and then well, well, well.

Don't have the time or inclination to care about players who repeatedly call a player bitch and when the mod tells them to stop adding to the drama and to follow the rules or be modkilled wants preferential treatment. Again there are people who say what they mean and there are people who lie blatantly to play victim. Ika has modded situations far more crazy then this one which was not a big deal except that you want to pretend your a poor victim. Stop it. No buys the whining blah blah boring.

Since you've been lying to save face, I'm sure that ika did what he needed to as a Mod and you want to the treatment a spoiled petulant child expects.
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Anyway, before the drama I think I called cheetory and Aero as scum but didn't really push them as much as I could have because the general sense of loss of morale.


I've actually been working on different things to avoid drama as another player who I respect told me that scum distract me with drama and then I lose track of what I'm thinking. Thanks to the player who build up :)
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Post Post #6809 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:06 am

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Yeah just looked through stuff and both ika and Titus spent time telling me all these positive things about SilverWolf and ika told me to be more sensitive to her so much love to ika for being an awesome Mod and a considerate person.
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Post Post #6810 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:11 am

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elusive-I don't have time to deal with your lies or your drama queen bullshit. You don't know anything about me or about things that were discussed when you were not present or how I play or why. Your desire to lie about it and lie about me tells me all I need to know about what kind of person you are though.

If you want to play in Wake's game go right ahead. I'm considering dropping out because I just found out my entire department was let go due to company restructuring and I have to look for another job. I have a young child to care for as well so my financial situation and my family is a hell of a lot more important that some damn game on the internet and some lying drama queen who thinks she knows me and doesn't know shit about anything but has no problem lying about it anyway.

Go fuck yourself elusive.

If anyone else besides elusive wants to discuss this with me, you can PM me and I'll be happy to talk about it. I'm not saying one more word about it here.

Enough is enough. I don't need this shit right now.
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Post Post #6811 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:48 am

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In post 6808, elusive wrote:What did I do specifically in game that crossed a line?


It's likely a matter of personality, since you continue to egg on Silverwolf, knowingly or not.
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Post Post #6813 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 8:55 am

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Spoiler: town
Neighborizer
Welcome XXX you are a
Neighborizer


Your abilities
-At night you may PM the mod a player to neighbor with
-If they are alive at day you will gain a PT with them to talk to
-At end of day it will be locked and you may neighbor someone else

Goal: eliminate all threats to the town


Deputy
Welcome XXX you are a
Deputy


Your abilities
-If a cop dies you will become the new one

Goal: eliminate all threats to the town


Vengeful
Welcome XXX you are a
Vengeful


Your abilities
-When you are lynched you may chose a player and kill them

Goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


3-shot Commuter
Welcome XXX you are a
3-shot Commuter


Your abilities
-At night you may run from the town making you untargetable by all actions

Goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


Non-consecutive Doctor
Welcome XXX you are a
Non-consecutive Doctor


Your abilities
-Each night you may target someone and heal them
-You may not use this ability on consecutive nights
-If successful you and your target will be informed

Goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


there will be 2 of these


Sheriff
Welcome XXX you are a
Cop


Your abilities
-Each night you may check someone for their alignment
-results will be either "aligned with town" or "not aligned with town"
-If in event you actions fails you will get "unknown"

Goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


Tracker
Welcome XXX you are a
Tracker


Your abilities
-Each night you may track someone to see if they visit someone
-Your results will be as follow
*XXX visited YYY
*XXX visited nobody
If in an event you do not get results you will get this:
*You were unable to track your target

goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


Citizen
Welcome XXX you are a
Citizen


Your abilities
-You have the all important power of voting

goal: Eliminate all threats to the town


Spoiler: mafia
Goon/Neighbor
Welcome XXX you are the
Goon/Neighbor

Your Allies are as follow

XXX is a
Non-consecutive Rolecop

XXX is an
Goon

XXX is a
Non-consecutive Roleblocker


You are also aware of a Mafia Traitor who can not be recruited

You can meet here: XXX
You have a Neighborhood located XXX with YYY

Your goal: Obtain living majority or have nothing from stopping you from obtaining it


Non-consecutive Rolecop
Welcome XXX you are a
Non-consecutive Rolecop

Your allies are as follow

XXX is the
Goon/Neigbor

XXX is an
Goon

XXX is a
Non-consecutive Roleblocker


You are also aware of a Mafia Traitor who can not be recruited

Your abilities:
Role check: Each night you may check someone for their exact role
-You may not check on consecutive nights

You can meet here: XXX

Your goal: Obtain living majority or have nothing from stopping you from obtaining it


Non-consecutive Roleblocker
Welcome XXX you are a
Non-consecutive Roleblocker


Your Allies are as follow
XXX is a
Non-consecutive Rolecop

XXX is an
Goon

XXX is a
Goon/Neighbor


You are also aware of a Mafia Traitor who can not be recruited

Your abilities:
Each night you may target someone and roleblock them.
You may not do this on consecutive nights

You can meet here: XXX


Your goal: Obtain living majority or have nothing from stopping you from obtaining it


Traitor/Neighbor
Welcome XXX you are the
Traitor/Neighbor
of the Mafia

You do not know your allies
They know of your existence
You can not be recruited to the mafia (the mafia night kill will fail if they attack you)
If all of the members of the mafia are to die you will gain the night kill

You have a neighborhood located here XXX with YYY

Your goal: Obtain living majority or have nothing from stopping you from obtaining it


Goon
Welcome XXX you are
Goon

Your allies are as follow


XXX is an
Non-consecutive Rolecop

XXX is a
Non-consecutive Roleblocker

XXX is a
Goon/Neighbor


You are also aware of a Mafia Traitor who can not be recruited

Your abilities:
You may act out the factional kill

You can meet here: XXX

Your goal: Obtain living majority or have nothing from stopping you from obtaining it



Spoiler: 3rd party
Mass MurdererWelcome XXX you are the
Mass Murderer


Your abilities:
-You are investigation immune (Godfather)
-You have 2 manual use vest (BP), this can be used in place of you night action giving you immunity to all night kills
-You can not use a vest if you are on cool down
-Each night you may target someone and kill everyone who visits them
-If the player targets nobody, they will also be nightkilled
-If 2 or more players get night killed by your attack you will have a one night cooldown where you can not kill
-If a player is to be night killed but lives, it will still count.
-You will learn how many people you night killed
*Message: "You killed X players last night"
-You may visit your own house ONCE and will trigger a Cooldown

Your Goal: Be the last Person standing



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Post Post #6816 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 9:01 am

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Post Post #6817 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 9:11 am

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"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #6818 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 10:46 am

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Sooooo... I read the chats and yeah, good luck trying to read me. I'm weird and insane. :roll:

It is indeed sad though that no one listened to me. Can't wait to read the scum chat, want to see how much I messed up their brains.
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Post Post #6819 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 10:58 am

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Hey wake, try reading the game. Your buddy had her psychopath moment after I stated that based on interactions so and so were scummy and FOSed her, she started the BS. Maybe in your games you tell town to give scum a pass for real life which at that point wasn't even known in or out of game but I don't play that way or care to play that way. If you're having a hard time in rl then go on vla or replace out. Don't push the buttons of players who are known to not back down. And I was the one who got egged on to say something that got me modkilled. Even that wasn't needed but was done to help poor sensitive SW to feel better.

I actually felt bad for NakedJogger at least he thought I was scum this was trying to use to rl to justify in game bad behavior. Even the last post is one giant NOU and ATE.

I have pms and chats from both mods trying to help me understand SW and how I should be empathetic to her and then she goes around and then she goes around and attacks them in dead thread and now here. I wouldn't have even said anything and dropped it if she hadn't tried to trash a mods reputation.

I say what I need to publically and I don't emotionally blackmail friends or use friendship. Titus or whoever can tell me what they think and have and I may disagree but I won't use it against them or try to trash them. In fact I think I apologized to both privately and do so again for any stress I caused them and promise to do better.

This is mafia, it's a game and it has a wincon. If you're having a hard time in real life this is probably not the best game for you. Maybe try meditation or idk watch some rom coms.
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Post Post #6820 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:01 am

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In post 6818, Kitz wrote:Sooooo... I read the chats and yeah, good luck trying to read me. I'm weird and insane. :roll:

It is indeed sad though that no one listened to me. Can't wait to read the scum chat, want to see how much I messed up their brains.


I really had no idea how to deal with you when you kept saying I shouldn't be alive. You were too town for me to push much and I didn't have scumchat or a NK to deal with you or tell them to. LOL

Well played Kitz.
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Post Post #6821 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:07 am

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Post Post #6822 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:10 am

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Well played, Cheetory and scumteam. Your best play was backing off your push on me - it came across as very genuine and essentially allowed you to saunter home.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #6823 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:14 am

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Yeah, I sheeped T S O because for the longest time I though he was groupscum until Oz told me he was SK. I probably would of pushed him as town or scum who knew what he was.

Cheet played that one well and did well with the way he handled the Oz bus plus the last two days looking very town.
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Post Post #6824 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:14 am

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Thanks :) I honestly think you would have won if we didn't have a rolecop on you. You're a friggin scary scumplayer man. Like, even with me knowing that you were scum I found it super hard to convincingly push a case on you.
I thought for sure you knew what was up.
You have no idea how anxious I was like all of that day cycle trying to push you without being able to tell my teammates that you were MM and trying really hard to make it seem like I thought you were mafia over third party.

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