Mini Normal 1893 - I Keep Modding Minis Ending in 3 -endgame

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Hi, don't know if mhsmith has announced my arrival or not but here I am.

hi

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pjm

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And Gerry I think is derpTown but will reread his ISO overnight

I am never derptown

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2 votesmeansnothing, gerry has been hard defending impoetic since post 300

maybe cause Impoetic was town no matter how shit titus has been

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2) A roleblocker is a perfect counter to the Fruit Vendor so Fruit Vendor doesn't end up OP.

can someone explain to me how a fruit vendor can be OP? Like non game related post here, I'm just curious, cause they can be mafia too, no?

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Fuck it.

I am the gs.

Blocked n1, checked boring n2. They are town.

posting this to remind me to check juri's read on impoetic day 1

I find it hard to believe that town has a RB and GS though, unless mafia has some strong PRs as well. I really doubt that town and maf both have RBers, so I see the only way Titus being GS is that Juri RBing impoetic n1

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please dont do the whole waffling on claiming thing. just claim if you're -x2 or less.

Sure. I'm the roleblocker. I breadcrumbed it in 156.

I targeted Darklyn with my ability on N1.

VOTE: Titus

i forgot this, I'm gonna vote Titus most likely now. Which is sad cause Impoetic likely fooled me. I find it very hard to believe that we and mafia would both have RB, that's stupid af. Dunn, if you remember space mafia, that's why I scumread you there.

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Gerryoat might be scum hard defending.

LOL

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If anyone has nothing else to say, I'm gonna hammer Titus

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I can wait, but this is mafia. no way he makes a setup with town and mafia RBer

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And Gerry I think is derpTown but will reread his ISO overnight

I am never derptown

You're always derptown

i always get you when you're mafia

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Can you explain why? I honestly know nothing about setup and balance yet.

And neither do they

WHy have 3 potential stoppers in a game, that's stupid lol

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"hey im hit!"

"no im RBer I rb'd ____!!"

"No i cc im JK, I saved ____!!!"

can you imagine lmao

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And Gerry I think is derpTown but will reread his ISO overnight

I am never derptown

You're always derptown

i always get you when you're mafia

you voted nosferatu

no i was weak rb and blocked nos, and tried to get you lynched. both of u were mafia lol

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well titus is saying she was rb'd so from her point of view, there has to be a RBer, and most mafia ones are JKers usually

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there has to be at least 1 more PR imo

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Also I'm new to this site, but what does a gunsmith do here? I thought they give guns to people, not check alignments?

nah that's only Epicmafia lol. Here they are basically cop. GS checks someone and if they have a gun they are either mafia or vig (i think) also mafia doctors are shown they dont have guns (I think)

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can i hammer now

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VOTE: Titus

stated already no way is there a RB on each side.

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Nighttime biatches.

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VOTE: MathBlade

I refuse to believe we have 2 Rbers and a BP.

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Sorry, but mechanically, it makes 0 fucking sense. unless mafia has some strong ass PRs, but even so, that would probably would make things so swingy.

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UNVOTE: Math

Fine, i'll try to be more open minded cause i said there was no way there was RBer types in the game, and there was so wtf do i know lol. Who do you think is mafia?

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why did boring ping you?

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so your reads:

TR: Fuzzy, me

SR: Boring

right?

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Anything else?

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Happy Easter, fuzzy!

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I think i could lynch momo, but i've read him wrong before

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My town read on IAWS just took a huge nosedive. Gerry is looking slightly better. Math has a decent reason to SR me, I suppose. Still probably town, unfortunately. Delta is still a suspicious slot. I still don't like Fuzzy either.

I don't see Math's SR of me letting up. If Math is really BP, then me showing up at LYLO with them will mean a town auto-loss.

I think we need to speed-lynch me so Math has a chance of not fucking up LYLO. I know it's bad form for townies to self-vote, but I think mechanically, one of us absolutely has to go, and now's our only shot.

VOTE: boring

wtf is this lol

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I'm lynching in IAWS, momo and Mathblade. one gets rope

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hahahahaha

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her logic was so bad that shes prob town from that post

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If i was mafia i would vote you and not look back, you are low hanging fruit if you're a town BP with 2 town RBers flipped.

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I was talking about boring

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My town read on IAWS just took a huge nosedive. Gerry is looking slightly better. Math has a decent reason to SR me, I suppose. Still probably town, unfortunately. Delta is still a suspicious slot. I still don't like Fuzzy either.

I don't see Math's SR of me letting up. If Math is really BP, then me showing up at LYLO with them will mean a town auto-loss.

I think we need to speed-lynch me so Math has a chance of not fucking up LYLO. I know it's bad form for townies to self-vote, but I think mechanically, one of us absolutely has to go, and now's our only shot.

VOTE: boring

this post

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deal

VOTE: Mathblade

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lmao, mathblade got SHOOK

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if you're so confident me and her are mafia, why aren't u ok with being lynched? what happens if me or her flips town? then what?

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Math you said I was the counterwagon to Titus and you suddenly sr me for one post that at first you didn't understand. why?

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You realize that there are people who are suspect of math? So lets say you're both town and we lynch you today, mafia will kill someone not suspect of him and only need 1 person to lynch him tomorrow.

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We know Titus is scum. So Fuzzy had to be a counter wagon.

You said I was the cw

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Hmmmmmm reading this page has me thinking a few things. I'll post it in a bit

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Math and Boring, can I convince you both to vote IAlwaysWinSometimes? I'm starting to think 2/3 in IAWS, momo and Delta

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VOTE: IAWS

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IAWS has done nothing, and hard protected Titus even when it was very slim chances there was 2 RBers in the game, also tried to start a cw on me to save titus once he saw he could get a few votes

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can we replace momo ?

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Letting Gerry eat rope might not be a bad idea given that he strongly TR the slot as well as defended the slot even with Titus pretty obvious scum play,

lies, i flipped once she claimed

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math if you think that, can you vote IAWS?

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@ Boring
why are you helping out the scum by committing Hari Kari-

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reasoning at length. It's crazy-advantageous for scum to keep me and Math together. Lynching me

now

prevents the autoloss of a me+Math LYLO. I'm not going to interfere with regular scum-hunting, or refuse to help with the vote if you've made a decision. However, if Math is going to be stuck on me, then this is the best day for my flip.

or you know, we could lynch mafia and avoid lylo tomorrow :^)

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Gerry- His defending of the Titus/Impoetic slot gives me pause.

your logic is flawed, think of it this way. Impoetic was TR by a lot of people day 1. and I even admitted Titus had a bad start, but was willing to bypass that, until the claim. Also, look at the PRs that have flipped, 2 RBers, so mafia must have a strong PR like a strongman, why would i choose to hard buddy my goon, instead of potential needed maf PR.

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I'm leaning toward IAWS and Delta at the moment. I had honestly forgotten Delta was in the game for a while, which is another red flag for me.

Then vote it

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Town: Me, Boring, Mathblade, Fuzzy

Scum: 2/3 in IAWS, Delta, momo slot

we have autowin, please don't fuck this up. looking back, even though BP doesnt make sense with RBers, math and titus aren't teamed. Fuzzy was the cw to Titus, and their interaction was not teamed. Boring is town and has bad logic that can only be town logic, and I believe their ate of wanting to sacarfice themselves today.

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i said to replace im earlier

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Math, i'm gonna need you to vote IAWS

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or we could lynch IAWS. Delta, you scumread him right? why not vote him?

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@mod do we get an extension deadline for momo replacement or no

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i stated my reads. It's 2/3 in IAWS, Delta, momo slot.

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boring please unvote and vote IAWS, math scumreads him as well

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lol jfc, math you will lose us this game

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boring, can you vote IAWS so Math can hammer and we move this game along, its obvious it's 2/3 in those 3

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Math needs to just understand that me you fuzzy are town and we win

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Math, who do you want most out of IAWD, Delta, Momo slot. I will literally vote any of them

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OK. you know what, i dont care anymore.

VOTE: boring

When she flips town, you auto TR for the rest of the game. deal? and you stop fucking waffling around. I can solve this game myself, i dont care. I can find the team in delta, IAWS, momo slot eventually

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OK. you know what, i dont care anymore.

VOTE: boring

When she flips town, you auto TR for the rest of the game. deal? and you stop fucking waffling around. I can solve this game myself, i dont care. I can find the team in delta, IAWS, momo slot eventually

And if she flips scum?

she wont cause she's obvious fucking town, but this is the only way that you will stop being paranoid and have a chance of winning this game.

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no you're not, i'm giving you votes on your scumread, and now you're just delaying. WHO do you scumread? Stop outing vague posts

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ok

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yes IAWS is obvious mafia, but mathblade wont stop tunneling boring

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honestly math, im not playing your game.

VOTE: momo

boring hammer this, there is 2/3 in momo, iaws and delta anyway.

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Can't we just lynch gerry?

nice omgus

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this game is so easy, and yet people like math make it complicated for no reason.

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UNVOTE:

hi gamma, its been awhile

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Gerry for those of us unsure like myself who are your two?

are you serious, i've said 100 times that there is 2 in iaws, momo slot and delta

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I think if Gerry's scum, I'd say Momo is my first suspect, and Delta is my second. If IAWS is scum, then it's a toss-up between Fuzzy and Delta.

so basically you're saying delta is most likely mafia regardless lol

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Fuck it.

I am the gs.

Blocked n1, checked boring n2. They are town.

posting this to remind me to check juri's read on impoetic day 1

I find it hard to believe that town has a RB and GS though, unless mafia has some strong PRs as well. I really doubt that town and maf both have RBers, so I see the only way Titus being GS is that Juri RBing impoetic n1

Please explain why you think there isn't a Scum RB.

i explained. i dont see there being a rber on both sides, and from titus' pov, there had to be 1 on both sides for her to be town

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if i had to choose 2, one is definitely IAWS, 2nd is prob Delta. but that's like 60/40 right now. Which is why I prefer IAWS lynched

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Why not vote Delta then??

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ok. how about this, everyone rank people from scum to town

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Scum

IAWS
Delta/Gamma
Fuzzy
Boring
Math

Town

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I already answered. I said IAWS and Delta if i had to choose

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Also math, you realize that boring already took everyone's top 2 scumreads

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Guys, you want to be able to get scum tomorrow, and your concerned that I may be scum, if necessary, you should vote me so you know who scum is tomorrow.

this just sounds like you're trying to copy boring

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ok. how about this, everyone rank people from scum to town

No, not giving you that information, I want the specifics of non scumreads locked tight, so no full order list for you.

lol @ this

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My top scum read is either Gerry or IAWS

dear go, you're worse than mathblade. i was the one trying to save you

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god*

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My town read on IAWS just took a huge nosedive. Gerry is looking slightly better. Math has a decent reason to SR me, I suppose. Still probably town, unfortunately. Delta is still a suspicious slot. I still don't like Fuzzy either.

explain what changed?

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basically based on that post you had

Delta > Fuzzy > IAWS > Me > Math

What changed on all those slots

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For all the people who say Delta is scum, no one wants to vote him. idgi

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ok, so you have delta as your strongest scumread, right? why aren't you voting it?

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Fuzzy, boring, Gamma = all scum read Delta. Yet, not 1 will vote. And that worries me that something is wrong here

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then who is? you said me and IAWS are not teamed and that delta is scum. so what are you saying?

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ok that's fine, but basically you're saying im pushing my agenda when you know how that's how i play and thats NAI

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or did you suddenly forget how pushy i can be lol

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idk, it's simple from my point of view. it's obvious you boring and fuzzy are town. so, if you'd just trust me, we'd win

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Your agenda seems scum motivated though
The amount of resistance I saw in Day 3 was insane, and I noted behavior that went along an "I wasn't on this mislynch so I'm town" mentality.

i dont get what you mean.

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i dont get why you think i'd hard buddy my goon partner. like, we have 2 RBers, so mafia has to have strong PR roles. Why would I buddy goon when I could buddy a strong PR?

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no, im not talkign about titus, I'm talking about impoetic. i TR her right away day 1

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i never TR titus, i just tr her slot. I said her actions were bad

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but that doesnt explain impoetic, which is my initial read. this has nothing to do with titus. i meta TR impoetic, just like JaeReed did. i dont see why that makes my TR on them bad

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neither of you are getting my point at all lol

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gamma you can't be this bad, maybe you're the scum with IAWS

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i had the same reason for townreading impoetic as jaereed, sooooooooooooo

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what a surprise that 2 of the 3 people i said could be scum are voting me

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please someone tell me what IAWS has done this game?

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You guys are fucking awful,

I HARDCLAIM 1 SHOT COP, YOU GUYS ARE GARBAGE TIER PLAYERS WHEN MAFIA IS OBVIOUS 2 IN THOSE 3.

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WHY DO YOU THINK MY READ ON TITUS SLOT CHANGED WHEN THEY CLAIMED GS, CAUSE I KNEW I WAS THE ONE INVESTIGATIVE PR

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I investigated Transcend, which sucked. but w/e. idk why i was only given one shot

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I figured Transcend would live cause he wasn't really doing anything

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Projectmatt push is garbage, btw. transcend you can't really scumread him that hard already right?

yes, because i'm a fucking moron who would fake an innocent report on the n1 kill

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Projectmatt push is garbage, btw. transcend you can't really scumread him that hard already right?

Transcend I haven't seen you care about a game in forever. Sad.

the 2nd quote is where i was gonna soft checking him eventually. but he died so it didnt matter after to bring it up later.

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at first i was wondering why i had only one shot. then i saw we had 2 RBers and a BP. that's why I believe there is a BP with 2 RBers cause this setup is a bit wonky.

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do you guys really think we would not have a investigative PR?

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yes, that's why i have 1 shot.

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why the hell would i not use it n1? no guarantee i'm not not killed or lynched

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I quoted the lines. Me saying that I haven't seen transcend try in awhile was in. Also me and him are from EM so its natural I'd check him since he isn't trying.

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Notice how they scum read other people but all vote me lol

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math you're really bad if you can't tell me and boring are obvious towns.

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Mafia can push a ml here, and probably pull a gambit tomorrow

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math, lets put it like this. say from your point of view, when i flip town, then what? are you gonna lynch boring into auto loss? or will you lynch the town in my 2/3? why not just lynch in one of my 2/3? thee is like 3 people wo scumread IAWS but no one will vote him. notice how IAWS was protecting titus slot, for even worse reason than i was, but then wants to lynch me so easily without saying "welll i tr titus slot too"

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IAWS just says "gut" and nothing else to push his mislynch and you're falling for it, which is honestly sad, i thought you were better than this

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If they were both scum I wouldn't be surprised, especially since some of their day 1 interaction was eyebrow raising.

The issue I have with the titus situation is that I'd be okay with the lynch if she wasn't a replacement. To lynch titus is to say impo was scum, which I have a hard time believing. We either need to decide that impo was somehow scum, or that titus is somehow town.

Is there any scenario in which you could see titus being town?

Also LOL at the boring/IAWS attempt to start a counter wagon to save Titus onto Gerry

Gotta go but please lynch Titus.

It's not a save titus one, it's a lynch gerry wagon.

Anyway, in regard to the fact that I look a little suspicious after what can be seen as a counterwagon and not hammering titus, here's what I have to say.

I really townread impo and that's was hesistant to hammer the replacement of a tr who had also claimed a pr role. All I can say is I feel as if when Titus was so obviously going to be lynched, scum would probably rather hammer to make themselves look like they were in on the lynch. I stuck to my gut feeling, and my gut feeling happened to be wrong.

The gerry wagon was also gut feeling and I'm still not sure he's town. So yeah, I did start a counterwagon because I thought the titus wagon was not good, not because I was looking to protect a scumbuddy.

Also Boring selfvote is kinda confusing me. Why is he acting like Math is cleared, and what's the harm in at least talking and scumhunting more?

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ya ok

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VOTE: IAWS

Can you just, vote this. it's obvious mafia. it's annoying that no one will vote it

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Are you ready for a mislynch? Boring, you can't seriously scumread me lol

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Delta why don't you vote IAWS if you scumread him??

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lol ok

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lol you, boring and fuzzy are so bad, im glad to be out

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Fuzzy did a good job in LYLO play but what was up with LyLO no NK? Like if you had shot me it would have gone insta GG

i told him to hit you night 4 and 5 so it would be a 4 way mylo, but he didnt listen