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[GuyInFreezer]

I would VC but

[schadd_]

let me know when its time to real talk

[schadd_]

hello ?? do i have to just vote

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: schadd_

[schadd_]

VOTE: nm

[schadd_]

i kind of knew LUV was the partner as soon as pp flipped. on d2 around this post

LUV is town. moving on.

i kind of thought it was an inno or something briefly and im pretty sure i tried not to pester him about it too much (though obviously i still tried to sort uzi. lol)

What if it's not LUV?

this was like a little bit up the page. i also thought of this sort of thing, and like the time uzi was like "Idk Bro Im Just Town" and i was like ohhh. (and i guess it was within his right to do that since he wasnt gonna get lynched but heck that was annoying).

not saying i would have surefire shot uzi by now, but like, idk? it should be a little bit clear that i knew uzi was the partner and like in general that i have the role wherewithal to figure that out whereas NM might just be blindfiring a little bit more. i remember uzi was like "schadds probably town" and that nm bob psyche was his scumlist (i think i shitted on that list btw sorry) so sure maybe i would try to take him to endgame but as far as i recall its been my prerogative in the past to shoot towny people rather than shoot for reads. i also think pisskop was trying to give mason cover d4 and thats why nm shot him whereas i would have been paying too much attention for that

just for bookkeeping i was thinking pisskop was the vig (i suddenly remembered that whomever was the vig would have had to shoot chenny n1 and that eliminated a few people e.g. psyche/jl probably UNLESS he was doing some sort of big stunt but idk what that would be about. anyway) and so the perf flip was uh incredibly upsetting. also i was super not sure about jl tonight and i was thinking if he isn't the nightkill then i gotta start rethinking things

also like you probably can't trust this from me of course but i think there's a strong general principle that if a bunch of mislynches line up after 2 red flips you should look at who wasn't being considered the whole time and i think i was very much on the table around d3 and def d4 obviously. also you should look at who bussed but uhh maybe that doesn't help here

what else what else

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

Like, if I totally bought schadd thought I was scum and should be lynched, I might think the meme would be fine. But so far most of what I have seen is that he didn't like my Gamma vote, which is fine but not enough to spend an hour making a meme over, and that he thinks I'm pink ball, which is... not even something I want to respond to. If I am pink ball, I didn't want to be mainhunted, and if I'm not pink ball, I don't want to get into that argument and make it easier to main hunt me. So his argument against me is boring for me to respond to, which makes me feel like he doesn't believe it. So making a meme for 501 is kinda gross given that his reasons just aren't that good and literally everyone patting him on the back for it kinda has me trying to decide whether he's obnoxious town that scum are trying to goad on and buddy by calling funny to get a mislynch on me or if he's just scum.

I'm leaning 'just scum' though. I think he was faking the reaction to vorkuta in pretending like he was going to rewrite his whole reads list and his push on me while I had stuff come up is opportunistic af.

VOTE: schadd

YES

This is more of what I'm talking about. the confidence level here seems fake.

And this is what I mean with the meme too. It's day 1 and I had a busy week so apparently that means his scumread on me is so strong that he's going to abandon the hope of working with the person you're focusing on?

Like I have made shitposty memes as part of pushes before... On like day 4 when I have total confidence th slot is scum. I wouldn't make one to get a read on a player because if I was wrong then the player is probably going to lose objectivity. I don't feel objective about schadd because right now I more feel while he is still alive in the game I don't really want to do anything other than lynch him. This is what it means to do a bad faith push and that's why I don't think town does aggressive tunnely memes like that day 1. I don't feel like he actually is thinking about my slot, he is thinking about how he looks pushing my slot.

I haven’t bothered to read any of Redemption’s recent posts since I decided to mark him as town for the foreseeable future. Who do you think are the scum attempting to let him hang himself so to speak?

Well, I feel like Penguin should have understood what he was trying to say, but I'm not sure Penguin has the disposition that would make him likely to explain the term that was meant to be used. N_M never explains. And Vork seemed to kind of ignore it, but Vork is town. So I kinda feel like town is just not really being very helpful to a new player rather than seeing a big scum motivation there.

wanting to vote Chenn at this point.

pichu is probably town given it's schadd leading the wagon

Detective Pikachu

Psyche
Vorkuta

PenguinPower
chennisden
Lil Uzi Vert

Not_Mafia

Redemption
ChannelDelibird

MaryJoLisa

LuckyOtter
Performer

schadd_

I think this is where I'm at.

Otter, Performer, what are your reads of schadd?

i love confrontation + for a moment you looked like generic scum doubling down to me which would be super great as id just have to win the 1v1 for today which is ez

im worried you're trying to keep me an unresolved 1v1 : (

vanity voting me with the assumption i won't vote you back (as scum)

your slot needs to die

VOTE: schadd

there is no reason town you wants to generate this much wifom about my vote, I felt pretty angry when I voted you over the weekend and I didn't want to just sit on that without reevaluating when I cooled down but it seems like you just want to goad me not sort me

i should say i dont really expect to be lynched

gross projection of ego

"I made a bunch of posts, you should have reevaluated me"

"I don't see why you unvoted me"

"why aren't you voting me, I like conflict"

"I just made a bunch of posts explaining my thought process"

die plz

I'd LIKE these four:
Not_Mafia
Redemption
ChannelDelibird
MaryJoLisa

to give reads of these three:
LuckyOtter
Performer
schadd_

I know I'm not going to get that from NM

Redemption, you have Otter as probscum, schadd as neutral, and performer as neutral. Have any of those reads changed, or have you developed a read of schadd or performer?

CDB, what's your read of schadd? Also, you say "weird" in regard to Performer, can you be a bit clearer on how you feel about that slot? Your read of Otter also seems kinda wishy washy, any update there? Maybe all your reads have changed anyway since you haven't updated since the weekend.

MJL, can you be clear on what your reads irt to otter, Performer, or schadd? I can't get a sense of what your read on any of the three is from your iso

DP was 1v1ing me very hard and doing so in the same way he did with perf and nomnomnom - i'd speculate that they thought this spewed nomnomnom town since they killed her, and like if DP was bussing the group {me, perf, nnn} i feel like theyd wanna kill out of that group. if that makes sense.

MJL can I interest you in a Performer vote?

Hey while you're here actually responding to things do you want to explain why you have Performer as town?

pedit: @N_M

not to go all mathblade but unless you think the last scum is exactly an encryptor (and like i personally think they are a rolecop bc of the otter kill, or some other bonkers ass thing that couldn't fit encryptor on top of it) there isnt daytalk and this is feasibly DP being like "hey guys lets try to do performer for real this time"

I feel like schadd's posts make me angry, so while I'm very confident he's scum there's another part of me that feels like I'm not approaching him objectively. He's probably scum, but there's a very small chance we just have a really big playstyle conflict. Performer just reads like scum to me and there's not so much emotion involved.

again it's probably awkward to hear this from me but like i super scumread this because it feels like hes playing hard to get with me here, if that makes sense. like when somebody's like "ugh... i'd be

struggling

to make plans on friday" and they're free on friday but they want to like squeeze it out of you. he's like "ughh schadd's probably scum.... but i could be

convinced

that it's a playstyle conflict

if only

he would just e.g. stop pushing me, which is something i do NOT like"

only MJL voted NM briefly early on in d1

[schadd_]

i would have just voted nm right away but idk maybe he would have gone the route of ccing mason. which would be awful but well he is who he is. moreover as town he should have just voted me right away since he would ostensibly be a non-mason and i am claimed VT

sort of did the self meta dealie already but, idr if uzi has seen my scumgame but its Not great. i think this was my last one, as katherine, outed alt . specifically i have trouble aggressing on people & sorting them as well as real timing - i don't think i sort people actively very well so when i do that it's mostly proof of concept (i think this from a past game demonstrates that sort of). it's sort of a nerves thing. im on record that it would be unlikely to change unless i saw a therapist WHICH i have started doing however that was not until about d2? d3? of this game.

if you don't buy into the psychological aspect or whatever i think it's at least a bit of a stretch that i would like suddenly go from a serial lowposter and never-busser to my play this game like right away on d1 as scum. it would have been cool obviously if i kept leaning into the dp lynch all the way through but oh well, i still think u should tend to avoid lynching PR claims unless you're like very certain. we just happened to be right both times. i guess we were punished karmatically by The Lord himself when He quickhammered performer lol

i think i said it already but i could well have just not hammered bob. and going down to 1 with a loose tracker is kind of throwing in my opinion - maybe thats sort of invalidated by the rolecop idea but hey it could have been a vanilla cop or something etc etc. keep in mind that both nm and i were voting bob but only one of us likes to throw games for funzies

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gonna read all this tonight.

[schadd_]

i guess i was in prod range. i think my town case is pretty simple, pretty much anything id say about nm is motivated by the fact that i know his alignment already. like i thought he was town, and his play has been super straightforward otherwise. he's made solo endgame as maf before a few times but i don't know if he got townread or just ignored in those games

[Not_Mafia]

Pordge

[Not_Mafia]

I wouldn't have killed Jesus

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Not Mafia

[GuyInFreezer]

Not_Mafia (2) - schadd_, Lil Uzi Vert
schadd_ (1) - Not_Mafia

[GuyInFreezer]

Not_Mafia,

Mafia Neapolitan

, was lynched Day 6.

schadd_,

Vanilla Townie

, survived and won.
Lil Uzi Vert,

Town Mason

, survived and won.

Town wins!

[nomnomnom]

Day 1 I thought it was strange that N_M was contributing this much.
Moral of the story: always lynch N_M if he ever posts something useful
GG!

[pisskop]

lol gg

well done schadd and luv

[GuyInFreezer]

Comments, first of all, my biggest apologies for the hiccups during the big part of the game. The game was kinda slow but I probably should've grabbed a backup mod sooner. I blame myself for really not preferring to bother someone for my job etc. Missing Psyche rep was probably my biggest hiccup here though. Next time, I probably should grab a backup mod first.

With that said, dead PT won't be released due to request.

[chennisden]

gg

[chennisden]

wins i didn't deserve:

[chennisden]

The only good thing I tried to do was lynch N_M

uhhh and that was still panning out poorly

[nomnomnom]

I'll be honest I didn't expect N_M to be the style to hardbus two partners holy

[Vorkuta]

With that said, dead PT won't be released due to request.

We had a deadPT that I could've been shouting in this entire time??

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh I knew I was missing someone.

[Vorkuta]

The setup was a real nightmare- scum pseudo doctor, visitor/FV and a neapolitan...?
Against mason pair, vig, and soft invests

Hard IMHO