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Me? This is my first game. But yeah, in terms of humor I am dry. Usually.In post 29, toblerone187 wrote:Now I don't know if you are being serious or not. Dom was clearly joking as was Superhans, as was I.... do you have no sense of humour? Or is your sense of humour very dry?
Back to voting: I have no clue.
So, UNVOTE: toblerone187-
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Yeah, I realize that now. I probably should have said that self-voting doesn't really help either side. With that in mind, I incline to think TheDominator is town. However, Dominator is at L-2, which means people should unvote.
And to comment on what LicketyQuickety wrote, only two out of the six possible starting scenarios even have a cop. So your suggestion is kind of weird.-
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Town would do it because it helps bring attention to someone with knowledge of the starting scenario, i.e. a power role that could be mafia or town.In post 48, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Why would town do it?In post 45, Rautherdir wrote:That's not odd. That's what town would do. I didn't mean to include the second part of my last post, didn't notice Connor had posted about it already.
Why wouldn't scum do it?
Mafia wouldn't do it because it lets information about the game slip. (Namely, it would narrow down the possibilities for the starting scenario and what other power roles are out there.)-
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So, are you saying LQ is scum?In post 61, Nachomamma8 wrote: Hmmm.
The only way that LQ would have information about the starting scenario is if he was a power role or mafia; if he was a power role, I personally don't think that he'd be interested in painting a huge target on his back and hinting to the other PR (if one exists) that he is town early is silly when he can confirm himself if he has to by claiming.
Also, Mafia Roleblocker would know one of two different sets of power roles could be in play. If LQ is a Mafia Roleblocker than they are finding out which is valid.-
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Okay.In post 83, ConnorJC wrote: No problem. Oh, and if you could get an avatar, that would be great.-
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May I have a reason with that unvote?
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Because he only has one post, and it's a vote for a pretty riciculous reason:
Also, because you (Nachomamma) are voting for Lovesick already. Hunting two lurkers at once is okay, right?In post 8, FancyPants wrote:VOTE: TheDominator37
Terrible name.
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UNVOTE:
See 78 and 81 where I admit I made a mistake.In post 130, LicketyQuickety wrote:
I take issue with this... Nacho is a much much better player than myself. I also detailed that I am NOT the IC this game because I didn't/don't want the responsibility.In post 74, Rautherdir wrote:Probably. He's the IC, it was likely a conversation starter.
VOTE: Rautherdir
You are not paying attention.
Alright, that is enough for me to unvote. I have no idea what to do next, so: what do you think of my play so far?In post 132, Lovesick wrote: There are no scum or town reads not ones which can be based from a logical stand point based on facts, ony ones made from opinion and thoughs. The only person I have ill feelings to are Nacho as i feel as though he is trying very hard to lead this game and is coming off as a little too strong for me however what have you had to offer which could be of serious use other than this bandwagon on me?
That would be because post 102 was a fairly good explanation.In post 133, FancyPants wrote:@Lickety, I used to play Mafia off-site on a South African site for gaming. As you say we can chat after if you'd like.
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OK I've given the thread a peruse. Not as much real content as I'd hoped, I've got town leans on LQ and Superhans, I don't think the latter is necessarily going about it in the right way, but I see real intent from both players.
Nacho is going to be very hard to ever town read, but he's been pro-town so far.
I'm not completely opposed to a lurker hunt, but for me its too early.
I like that Lovesick had a go at Nacho, OMGUS and paranoia are town tells for me, would still like more content.
@Toblerone, you've talked a bit without saying anything. Give your thoughts/reads? I understand you're new but share them anyway.
@Connor, who's scum?
@Rauther, your vote on me, and then subsequent hop off smells of appeasement.-
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Preview_EditIn post 177, toblerone187 wrote:What does "pedit" mean?-
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The reason we were all on a single wagon was because of this post:In post 226, Lovesick wrote: Have my recent posts other than the one which you just quoted based on defending myself? I simply responded to Nacho as he had quoted my post.
I'd argue that pursuing information from more than one player at once is much more reasonable and logical than ganging up on one member who at that time wasnt reachable, is that not true?
Looking back that may not have been the best strategy.In post 102, Nachomamma8 wrote:RVS (the opening stage) is typically characterized by voting people for silly reasons. Sometimes I participate, sometimes I don't, but voting early game for a silly reason is as alignment-neutral as alignment-neutral gets.
It's okay to hunt multiple lurkers at once but if one deserves suspicion more than the other two then it seems smarter to combine efforts on one.-
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I come back to ~75 more posts. Wow you guys are active. Beginning with his first post:
6: There was discussion about this, mostly resolving to that either LQ was rolefishing or he was stirring conversation. Either way, I really didn't get a town vibe from this move, due to the fact that he could have inadvertently revealed power roles in the following conversation.
38: Asking for information to figure out how experienced ConnorJC is. Not really indicative of town or scum.
42: Clarifies that 6 was a reaction test.
47: Notes that he doesn't read people the traditional way.
105: Goes back and forth as to whether he has more information or not. Could be breadcrumbing, actually.
130: Votes for me. That was an iffy reason to vote in my opinion, I made a mistake while reading the player list; is that really a good reason to think I'm scum?
158: There's no reason to go after a lurker by putting them at L-2. My comment probably wasn't the best way to phrase it, but what we were doing was quite frankly overkill.
159: I look forward to seeing your reasons to continue voting/unvote me after this post.
185: Could you please elaborate on this?
234: Or one of them could be a scum-mate. Who knows?
249: I didn't put any reasoning behind it at the time. Because I put my reasoning down afterwards.
262: That doesn't mean you don't defend yourself.
266: 5 is not a possibility.
284: Are you admitting to lying here?
There. Reasons. Please analyze them. LQ, could you answer the questions I asked in here?-
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I never said you were talking about me. You were talking about Lovesick who was talking about my vote.In post 310, LicketyQuickety wrote:Not bad (other than the fact that that post is largely IIoA [at least from my end]). You make a fatal error though: In 249 I was not even talking about you.
Fixedquotetagonrequest.--PLast edited by Plotinus on Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:08 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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The first sentence was a quote from 310, can the Mod please fix that?In post 314, Rautherdir wrote:Not bad (other than the fact that that post is largely IIoA [at least from my end]). You make a fatal error though: In 249 I was not even talking about you.
I never said you were talking about me. You were talking about Lovesick who was talking about my vote.-
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I think I've said this before, but this is my first game. I don't exactly know what to prioritize.In post 329, Nachomamma8 wrote:
This shouldn't be a significant concern of yours; trading one townie for the scumteam (which is typically what happens in those situations) is a trade that the Town is perfectly comfortable in making.In post 152, Rautherdir wrote:There are two scum. They could conceivably quickhammer. It would be a stupid move, but it's still a move that could happen.-
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So what I get from the past few posts is that LQ votes based on his gut and not specific reasons. Which would make it extremely difficult for him to answer my question.
UNVOTE:
I still don't know for sure if you're town, LQ, but I noticed something a bit more disconcerting.
VOTE: TheDominator37
Somehow you've gotten away with three posts, two of which were votes. One of those votes was an RVS self-vote, and the other was an unexplained vote for Superhans. An explanation would be more than appropriate.-
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At the time I knew that was the most likely place to get information out of others.In post 401, ConnorJC wrote:
I know this is kinda old, but why do you want yourself vs LQ?In post 349, Rautherdir wrote:Or we could switch to me v LQ. I'm not backing down until I hear LQ's current reasons to vote me.-
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The only reason I have for thinking LQ is mafia at this point is his possible rolefishing post 6, and his failure to adequately explain some of his votes when they were made. Now that I know his primary reason for those votes was a gut feeling I no longer read him as mafia, but I still don't like his post 6.-
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