Open 579: Pick Your (Chocolate) Power -- Game Over
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Honestly I don't think Flubber is scum because of his post about being mad. Even if he was exaggerating his anger, I don't think that's really telling.
I'm sure Mathdino is town here, and I feel like Droog's town. I played with these guys before and their play feels very much the same here. I can't say the same for wgeurts until he posts more, but I don't take his RVS vote as scummy. The game is only 3 pages in, we're sure to get some people still coming in RVS voting.-
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In post 57, farside22 wrote:In post 51, Alchemist21 wrote:Honestly I don't think Flubber is scum because of his post about being mad. Even if he was exaggerating his anger, I don't think that's really telling.
I'm sure Mathdino is town here, and I feel like Droog's town. I played with these guys before and their play feels very much the same here. I can't say the same for wgeurts until he posts more, but I don't take his RVS vote as scummy. The game is only 3 pages in, we're sure to get some people still coming in RVS voting.
Why would exaggerated anger read town?
How many games you played with droog? What was his alignment?
In post 54, Venrob wrote:No, I'm saying that if the town decides to lynch me even though I am town, I'd rather it not be at LYLO.
Reads? Not really. I don't get reads this early into Day 1. If you wish to confirm that, you can check out my other games- that's what I pretty much always say regardless of alignment.
And if I seem defensive, please note my 1 town win and 6 town losses.
Do you have foot and mouth disease where you say the worst things that read scummy?
Have you played scum here? If so where you lynched easy as well?
I'm not saying it reads town, I'm saying it doesn't read scum. I've played one previous game (o574) with Droog where he was town. He hard pushed an early wagon on randomidget in that game. Dino and wgeurts were also in that game.-
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@Mathdino: The wgeurts vote was just an attempt in getting him to post more so I might be able to get a read on him. I don't mind keeping it there until he comes back though. P.S. I had no idea wgeurts hates RVS. He openly participates in it.
@Farside: There's no scum motivation for flubber faking his emotion. Some people just exagerate things when they talk because that's who they are. There are plentynof people who say, "I was so fucking pissed," when really they were only moderately annoyed. Being mad over losing out on the draft is null, and exaggerating any emotion about it has no scum motivation because it won't get him anywhere.
TL;DR I think his post shows his personality, not scumminess.-
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I wasn't expecting immediate results from him, just expected that he would respond to the vote at some point. I'm trying to get early reads on the ones I've played with before.
@Farside, you're right about it being unneccessary. It doesn't achieve anything as either alignment, which is why I'm not scumreading it.-
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In post 94, Mathdino wrote:Then hypothetically I'd argue with you the entire day about why you should go with the majority vote.
That said, as of the wgeurts vote explanation, current scumreads are Amy, Alch, and Flubber (though I'm iffy on the latter 2 both being scum), so I wouldn't cry over it.
Edit: Alchemist, please give your top scumread or any reads if existent. The fact is that you changed your RVS vote to someone as pressure when there was no indication that hewouldn'tcome back, all the while RVS votes are pretty much for reactions in the first place.
Sorry, but I don't have any scumreads at the moment. Also, I knew wgeurts' reaction wouldn't be the only reaction I got from the vote. I was hoping there would be scum hard tunnelling me for it, but that didn't happen and the degree of reaction to it from you and Farside seem town to me. I'm still happy with you and Droog as town, and now I'm leaning town on Farside as well.
My vote also gives wgeurts something to respond to, since I don't think he would have gotten very involved in the PR theory talk.-
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In post 100, droog wrote:In post 98, Aneninen wrote:Conclusion. Amy is most probably scum. She speculates about "what would be useful for the scum?" things all the time, especially during that Vigilante/Vengeful/Idunnowhat part of the chat. Other reasons are shown in my catch-up.
scum have daytalk
Someone help me understand what the relevence of Daytalk is here. Ane knew what your point was but I don't see it and what that has to do with what you quoted.-
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In post 133, wgeurts wrote:Ok droog and mathdino are town,
I'd like alchemist to do be so as well however I'm unsure on him. Also, alchemist screw you for making any negative comments on you look like WIFOM .
Anyway, I'll make a proper reads list and explanation in a sec.
How did I make them look like WIFOM?
If I were a vengeful and got lynched, I would target Wgeurts.
@Mathdino, I saw what you posted on his meta. It seems interesting to note, but I wouldn't base a case on it. I'm more concerned with how he attacked Ane for sheeping Dino on Amy, yet Droog openly admitted to sheeping someone on the wagon, and Wgeurts is calling him town. The double standard there doesn't sit well with me.-
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In post 179, wgeurts wrote:
That should of been OMGUS.In post 177, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 133, wgeurts wrote:Ok droog and mathdino are town,
I'd like alchemist to do be so as well however I'm unsure on him. Also, alchemist screw you for making any negative comments on you look like WIFOM .
Anyway, I'll make a proper reads list and explanation in a sec.
How did I make them look like WIFOM?
If I were a vengeful and got lynched, I would target Wgeurts.
@Mathdino, I saw what you posted on his meta. It seems interesting to note, but I wouldn't base a case on it. I'm more concerned with how he attacked Ane for sheeping Dino on Amy, yet Droog openly admitted to sheeping someone on the wagon, and Wgeurts is calling him town. The double standard there doesn't sit well with me.
Care to explain your double standard on sheeping?-
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In post 187, farside22 wrote:@alchemist:
I asked you a question about this
In post 130, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 100, droog wrote:In post 98, Aneninen wrote:Conclusion. Amy is most probably scum. She speculates about "what would be useful for the scum?" things all the time, especially during that Vigilante/Vengeful/Idunnowhat part of the chat. Other reasons are shown in my catch-up.
scum have daytalk
Someone help me understand what the relevence of Daytalk is here. Ane knew what your point was but I don't see it and what that has to do with what you quoted.
Why did you ask others and not droog about this?
The question was directed to the playerbase at large so that anyone could respond. I felt that since someone else understood what Droog was saying, then there were probably more who understood it, and I just wanted anyine who understood it to help me understand. The question was not meant to exclude Droog from answering.-
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In post 202, Amy Farrah Fowler wrote:In post 100, droog wrote:In post 98, Aneninen wrote:Conclusion. Amy is most probably scum. She speculates about "what would be useful for the scum?" things all the time, especially during that Vigilante/Vengeful/Idunnowhat part of the chat. Other reasons are shown in my catch-up.
scum have daytalk
Y'know, it's funny you noticed that. I'm assuming that most games here don't have daytalk, or in any case I didn't know this one did. It usually takes scum to know of something that scum has. Do you play this setup a lot?
Daytalk is a standard part of this setup. It's mentioned in the "other information" section of the wiki page.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _Power_X/Y-
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I don't think Amy is scum, even with the "ithis would be useful for X as scum," statements. I myself tend to think about situations from a scum perspective to try and figure out where scum motivation exists. Mathdino, I'm sure you can recall that about me from o574.
Davesaz's posts look like an attempt to look busy without actually doing anything for the town. He asks plenty of questions to people but has rarely given his own input on matters. His lengthiest posts are about things that really won't go anywhere, like discussing the Kitty comments.-
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In post 207, Amy Farrah Fowler wrote:In post 204, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 202, Amy Farrah Fowler wrote:In post 100, droog wrote:In post 98, Aneninen wrote:Conclusion. Amy is most probably scum. She speculates about "what would be useful for the scum?" things all the time, especially during that Vigilante/Vengeful/Idunnowhat part of the chat. Other reasons are shown in my catch-up.
scum have daytalk
Y'know, it's funny you noticed that. I'm assuming that most games here don't have daytalk, or in any case I didn't know this one did. It usually takes scum to know of something that scum has. Do you play this setup a lot?
Daytalk is a standard part of this setup. It's mentioned in the "other information" section of the wiki page.
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _Power_X/Y
So do you read the whole Wiki page of every setup you play?
Yeah. I always like to know how the setup works before I start the game. Doing otherwise wouldn't be a good idea, or you'll get KB's "reaction test" in o571.-
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I assumed wgeurts would read back and find the answer to this, but since he hasn't replied I'll repeat it.
124 - Droog openly sheeps Anem's case on Amy.
133 - Wgeurts calls Droog Town.
151 - Wgeurts votes Ane for sheeping Mathdino's case on Amy.
Now my question to wgeurts: Why do you think it's scummy for Ane to sheep Mathdino but not for Droog to sheep Ane? Also, it doesn't look at all like Ane sheeped Mathdino's case in the first place, so I don't know how you even came to that conclusion.-
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I was starting to feel a similar train of thought with both the wgeurts and Amy wagons last night. I don't think it's because the wagins were too easy, but because the wagons developed at around the same time and there were no counterwagons coming up.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Flubbernugget
This guy has been unproductive for town, and the, "I suck at mafia right now," excuse doesn't cut it for me.
Also, to anyone thinking Mathdino could have been bussing wgeurts, check the draft order. They took the same number, so there's no way they're scumbuddies.
Also, hi Ank! Welcome to the game.-
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Whoops, sorry, thought I had posted my problem with him in the post where I voted Flubber. It's because he's excusing another player's lack of scumhunting. Amy's lack of scumhunting could be unintentional and because of noobiness, but that doesn't excuse it and for another player to suggest it's OK to not scumhunt is scummy IMO.-
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In post 283, Mathdino wrote:In post 249, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Also, Anen's latest post looks really confbiasy. So what if she's not scumhunting?
Actually, I didn't notice this first time around. Hm.
Alchemist, do you believe scum would make a statement as obvious as "It's cool if y'all don't look for us"? This seems like a sentence scum would correct immediately with a simple reread of the post.
I don't know. It's not something I want to just completely dismiss because it seems to obvious. If we give him a pass for it, then even if he's town it gives the scum a pass for it too. This is something we need to push.-
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In post 294, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:I'm of the opinion there are a great many players who don't have a clue how to scumhunt. I'm one of them. Scumreading someone purely for not scumhunting is dumb. Of course, there are scum ways and town ways of not scumhunting.
Besides that, I don't really get why I'm being voted lol.
There's a difference between trying to scumhunt and doing it wrong and then intentionally not scumhunting. You made it sound like you think it's never scummy to not scumhunt regardless of which one it is.-
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In post 301, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Okay. The real reason my wgeurts vote is scummy is because the amy unvote only happened then. From like #170 to my unvote was basically this
In post 238, droog wrote:i was going to unvote amy because i dont have a strong scumread there
then i realized i dont have any stronger scumreads
And yeah, my townread on dave is because he hasn't done any obvious town stuff. He has very little content, but he is not lurking at all. Or maybe it's the opposite, that he's lurking but still producing some content? Idk. It's kinda gut, and kindof the terms I'm using being so ill-defined.
Pedit: aw noooo... Don't tell me that I said something I thought was innocuous but the whole game takes as a scumslip again. Yuck.
That P-edit sounds sarcastic as hell and it's not going to get me off your back. Your Dave townread sounds weak too. You think he's town, but the two possible reasons you give for feeling that way are polar opposites.-
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So you know your play is so bad it hurts you as Town, but instead of trying to fix it and get better, you try to excuse yourself like some kind of VI? Then you say it's ok for other players to not scumhunt. How exactly do you expect Town to find Scum? If you're Town you really need to step up your game.-
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Here's something else to consider. Siv is 4th in the draft order. If he's scum, I think there's a good chance he got his submitted role choice, and he would also likely be the highest scum in the draft order.
If he's town, this wagon would be an easy mislynch.
If he's scum and his draft pick returned Vanilla, then this might be a wagon where the scumteam will bus.
However, if he holds a key role for the scumteam, and we push the wagon harder, I think we'll see some ratalliation from the scum hoping to keep an important role for them in the game.-
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In post 322, Mathdino wrote:In post 320, Alchemist21 wrote:Here's something else to consider. Siv is 4th in the draft order. If he's scum, I think there's a good chance he got his submitted role choice, and he would also likely be the highest scum in the draft order.
If he's town, this wagon would be an easy mislynch.
If he's scum and his draft pick returned Vanilla, then this might be a wagon where the scumteam will bus.
However, if he holds a key role for the scumteam, and we push the wagon harder, I think we'll see some ratalliation from the scum hoping to keep an important role for them in the game.
Dude you have no idea how many scumpoints you just got for if Siveure flips town. No idea.
The point of my post was to say we should pressure Siv to see if we get any scum resistance to the wagon.-
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In post 329, Venrob wrote:Well, Siv is another person I am willing to vote, so since this looks like it's happening...
VOTE: SivL-2
Also, it seems that one of my friends has pissed off some serious hackers, and they may be coming after me.... so I'm going to give a preemptiveV/LA for a weekincase they take down my internet.
In post 330, droog wrote:anonymous does not have serious hackers anymore
It doesn't have to be Anonymous. There are people who can boot you offline if theh get your IP.-
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In post 346, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:The premature claim is because I suspect the wagon will quickly go to l-1...
Tbh, I panic if I think there's a case on me. There were at least 3. Math sounded (and still does) like this was the lynch wagon.
Math, if first pick is scum, they're a good scum pr. Don't let someone being first pick stop you if you think they're scum.
And anen, please give me more credit than that. I've breadcrumbed it for you if you really want to know.
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In post 474, wgeurts wrote:In post 453, wgeurts wrote:wgeurts
Flubbernugget
droog
davesaz
Alchemist21
Ankamius
Amy Farrah Fowler
Siveure DtTrikyp
Aneninen
Romitelli
TheAdrienC
Mathdino
farside22
Venrob
Those that aren't bolded post your top 3 scum reads and provide reasons.
Top read is still Siv. First reason is because he said it was OK to not scumhunt. Now we have him claiming Vanilla after trying to get doc, followed by him saying in 356 that doc wouldn't be priority for top 3 town in the draft, and saying that the slot is likely a roleblocker instead and doubting the doc/roleblocker slot is town in 385.
I still don't like Dave that much. The last post he just made looks more town, but not enough to make me lean town on him yet. Still looks like he could be trying to fake his way through the game.
I don't really have a 3rd read. My gut would say Flubber, but he reminds me of randomidget and Gaiden, so I'm a little weary of a scumread there. Next choice would be Romitelli due to his lurking, but the 2 prods make me think his lurking isn't scummy, so he's null for me.-
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In post 483, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Why the hell is ANY of the stuff you called out on me scummy?
Advocating a lack of scumhunting is scummy. You find scum and win by scumhunting.
Tell me why Town players wouldn't go for doc if they got a high draft pick. Are you saying that your spot in the draft is some magical border where all townies suddenly decide it's ok to go for doc now? You're setting it up to try and mislynch the doc by saying, "The doc/roleblocker slot were taken by someone above me, and whoever did is probably scum."-
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@Ane, I didn't have a problem with him townreading Davesaz specifically, but with the lack of strong townreads. It seemed to me like he was trying to keep away from forming townreads on D1, and I asked him if he was confident in the read because I was expecting a, "no," to that question. My 315 was just to tell Mathdino that he did not start one of the wagons that he thought he did. It's not weird at all.-
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In post 533, Ankamius wrote:In post 526, davesaz wrote:Not so sure of my read on Ankamius. All of his scum reads seem opportunistic and/or shallow. The strong town read on Alchemist is also pretty shallow.
The Alchemist read seems shallow because I'm not going to go into any more detail into it. Make of that what you will, but this isn't changing.
Is this due to the fact that our other game together is still ongoing? If not, then I'd actually like an explanation for your read on me. I need to be able to understand where you're coming from.-
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@Formerfish, Still noobie. I expected wgeurts to respond to the vote because it was a naked vote. People just respond to naked votes in general. Having early reads on Mathdino amd Droog already, I wanted a read there so I would have early reads on all three of the people I had just played 574 with. I didn't think he would jump into the setup conversation that was going on at the time, so I voted him to give him something to talk about.-
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In post 615, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 284, Alchemist21 wrote:In post 283, Mathdino wrote:In post 249, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Also, Anen's latest post looks really confbiasy. So what if she's not scumhunting?
Actually, I didn't notice this first time around. Hm.
Alchemist, do you believe scum would make a statement as obvious as "It's cool if y'all don't look for us"? This seems like a sentence scum would correct immediately with a simple reread of the post.
I don't know. It's not something I want to just completely dismiss because it seems to obvious. If we give him a pass for it, then even if he's town it gives the scum a pass for it too. This is something we need to push.
ISO'd Alchemist and saw this. Looks like scum disguising a policy vote.
Why would anyone try to disguise a policy vote? Policy votes aren't even considered scummy.-
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In post 584, droog wrote:In post 453, wgeurts wrote:wgeurts
Flubbernugget
droog
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Those that aren't bolded post your top 3 scum reads and provide reasons.
mathdino--he's all over the place, but never the right places
aneninen-- awful cases that look better than they are
ankamius-- i needed to pad this out
Droog, explain that part of your read. What are you calling "the right places?"-
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@Droog, here is Siv's vanilla claim.
In post 323, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:If I flip town? I'm definitely flipping then?
Also, I was kindof weirded out at the start of the game because I am actually vanilla.
Wait, I need to reread to check role stuffs...
Welp, nothing coming out of that.-
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He said he was breadcrumbing the role he attempted to get (doctor), not VT.
He also went on to accuse whoever got the role of being a likely scum roleblocker on the basis of "Doc isn't a prioroty role for Town."-
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In post 697, TheAdrienC wrote:I'm more comfortable with Alchemist then the other two.
Vote: Alchemist
Neither of you ever mentioned having a scumread on me, so I fail to understand the votes here.-
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In post 703, Formerfish wrote:Well, sometimes when it gets close to deadline, a man chooses a lynch that isn't the best, but it'll do for the time being. No one likes finding out they are a compromise lynch, but we've all been there at one point or another.
I already said I'm not lynching siv with venrob on that wagon, and An has claimed a role that is confirmable so he has a stay of execution. I'd like to lynch venrob but won't have enough time to get support. So its you.
So you don't think it's possible that Venrob may be bussing Siv, and your decision to choose me over ane is due to a PR softclaim by Ane?-
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His claim, if it's true, means scum has a 33% chance of killing the doc tonight.
He then went on to say that whoever in those three took the role fro that pair was likely scum just because he claims Town never pick doc. You even showed him where doc was chosen fairly often. How is what he did anything but an attempt to throw suspicion on the players where the doc could be?-
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In post 506, Mathdino wrote:History of Doc Picks:
Open 542: Doc was 3rd in the draft order, no one else picked it.
Open 518: RB was taken by scum, 8th in the draft order, no one else picked it (hi Siv).
Open 506: Doc was 4th in the draft order, no one else picked it (hi Siv).
Open 486: RB was taken by scum, 3rd in the draft order. Other picks unknown.
Open 472: Doc was not taken.
Open 427: Doc was 7th in the draft order. Other picks are unknown.
So it's usually one doc pick per game. Notable that 542 had a town doc 3rd in the draft order, so your logic's a bit shoddy, Siv.
In post 511, Mathdino wrote:In post 503, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Advocating a lack of scumhunting is controversial. It's not scummy just because it's controversial. Why is it more likely from scum than town?
Like, if it just gets suspicion and does nothing else, it's indicative of a lack of foresight. Which alignment is more likely to not plan ahead how people react to their words? Especially something controversial?
This argument is literally one of the worst I've ever seen, mostly because you're saying what scum do and what town do and applying it to yourself.
Funny posts to make about a player you're townreading. Even funnier that the logic you called shoddy is what you're using to defend your decision now.-
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In post 745, Formerfish wrote:Yes. Why wouldn't I? Did you are anything that would make me change my mind?
No. I'm just thinking that unless Venrob is scum then the Siv wagon was all town. I'll be keeping my eye on him.
P-edit: Usually you can find a reason for a vote in another post. Ade gave absolutely no reason when he voted me.
Also I'm still sure Dino is town.-
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