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i'm here. i'm hungover. as much as haphazard setup spec entertains me it's worth noting this is a predesigned setup.hemloreplacement queue-
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i will try not to lurk as hard as i typically do day one!!hemloreplacement queue-
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oh also this page contains everything that can occur in a normal game setup: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_GameIn post 45, Skygazer wrote: i'm here. i'm hungover. as much as haphazard setup spec entertains me it's worth noting this is a predesigned setup.
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haphazard was the gentlest word i could come up with actuallyIn post 48, Deltabreedy wrote:
I'm also in pain/hungover (Airsoft weekend)In post 45, Skygazer wrote: i'm here. i'm hungover. as much as haphazard setup spec entertains me it's worth noting this is a predesigned setup.
VOTE: Sky
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i think im chucking iamveryhappy in the town bin, voting a mod feels like a town trait to me from a player that joined in aprilhemloreplacement queue-
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yee. i see newer scum as "risk averse" and voting PP feels like something newer scum might see as a riskIn post 53, OopsieDaisy wrote: I guess I can see the world where like, if you're a new player picking targets to vote a mod would be the most intimidating vote in an isolated world.hemloreplacement queue-
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there's probably at least one vanilla towniehemloreplacement queue-
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SLEEPER AGENT ACTIVATEDIn post 62, Elements wrote: Parachutehemloreplacement queue-
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elements isnt doing a ton to make me not wanna vote them which ironically makes me not wanna vote them as much
might be shooting myself in the foot but iavh seems like one of those town players that just makes everyone want to vote them. i do wish they focused more on sorting players.hemloreplacement queue-
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sideeyeing PP because it felt like they were just throwing easy shade at iavh but they havent voted there. PP, are you scumreading iavh or just trying to push them to be more productive?hemloreplacement queue-
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hip fire weak reads:
kkfc / iavh
random nurse / oopsie
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143 feels like a scum post. 123 also looks kinda LAMIST. At the moment I'm perceiving IAVH as an "easy target" so I don't like Delta's vote there. And Delta's getting back from V/LA today so I thought it'd be a good time to drop some pressure :)In post 162, Random Nurse wrote: Why Delta?hemloreplacement queue-
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whoops 128In post 164, OopsieDaisy wrote:
123 is a KKFC post, did you mean to quote another post there?In post 163, Skygazer wrote:
143 feels like a scum post. 123 also looks kinda LAMIST. At the moment I'm perceiving IAVH as an "easy target" so I don't like Delta's vote there. And Delta's getting back from V/LA today so I thought it'd be a good time to drop some pressureIn post 162, Random Nurse wrote: Why Delta?hemloreplacement queue-
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I'm going to adopt an egotistical persona this game.In post 166, PenguinPower wrote: hmm....skygazer could actually be scum...interesting
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Anyways PP, I don't do reads off meta but you feel jarringly similar to that game where I hammered NM.hemloreplacement queue-
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i feel like IAVH is just dropping tons of "traditionally scummy behavior" and i feel like an april join date is that sweet spot where people generally know better than to drop obvious scum tells. they also havent really adjusted to pressure which reads as not-nervous.
do you think i'm wrong that if IAVH is town then scum would jump on them?hemloreplacement queue-
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who asked me about oopsie? at work and have adhd sorryhemloreplacement queue-
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your response was a meme that felt more dismissive than anythingIn post 178, PenguinPower wrote: and like you sideeyed me and asked me a question but them seemingly did nothing with it and certainly didn't engage with me on it so that just seems like a nothing question to throw shadehemloreplacement queue-
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ahh whoops misread that. oopsie is giving null town vibes. kkfc seems fine to me so far. hard to tell if theyre asking about oopsie or kkfchemloreplacement queue-
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pp looking much townier these last two pageshemloreplacement queue-
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white knighting is a fair accusation but i don't see how scum me would gain much from it bc it could easily be construed as TMI and i'm not sure if the benefits of having IAVH in my pocket would outweigh the potential TMI accusations if i were approaching this from a scum perspective.hemloreplacement queue-
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i could argue that i did reengage you on the subject to be fairIn post 178, PenguinPower wrote: and like you sideeyed me and asked me a question but them seemingly did nothing with it and certainly didn't engage with me on it so that just seems like a nothing question to throw shadehemloreplacement queue-
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i mean i literally brought the subject up again hereIn post 174, Skygazer wrote: i feel like IAVH is just dropping tons of "traditionally scummy behavior" and i feel like an april join date is that sweet spot where people generally know better than to drop obvious scum tells. they also havent really adjusted to pressure which reads as not-nervous.
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i think i gotta give town points to PP for like a quick response time chat mafia read kind of thinghemloreplacement queue-
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i mean sorry for the misunderstanding but a meme that just says "both" makes me feel like you weren't interested in engaging that much but we also havent played together too much lately sohemloreplacement queue-
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i addressed the white knighting but in terms of game state: idk, i think it being early game wouldnt necessarily stop scum from trying to make easy pushesIn post 177, PenguinPower wrote: i mean - the answer is no, scum could jump on them as an easy push....but, early D1 wagons almost never lead to an elim so now seems like a weird time to do that.
conversely, iavh is someone that scum could come in and do exactly what you're doing now! that has a bit more benefit given my early d1 wagon comment above + buddying + attempted townpointshemloreplacement queue-
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202 prompted me to reread their iso and it wasnt as fine as i rememberedhemloreplacement queue-
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as of right now i think scum is in kkfc/random nurse/IAVH/Deltahemloreplacement queue-
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will answer soon I've been grabbing lunch this whole timeIn post 223, PenguinPower wrote:
what wasn't so fine?In post 221, Skygazer wrote: 202 prompted me to reread their iso and it wasnt as fine as i rememberedhemloreplacement queue-
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need to reevaluate IAVH because ive been caught with my pants down defending scum before and could be easily wrongIn post 227, Skygazer wrote: as of right now i think scum is in kkfc/random nurse/IAVH/Deltahemloreplacement queue-
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back at my desk. there's just a whole lot of non-advancing content, i think most of it is mechanical/small talk/defending themselves with only one mention of giving town points outIn post 223, PenguinPower wrote:
what wasn't so fine?In post 221, Skygazer wrote: 202 prompted me to reread their iso and it wasnt as fine as i rememberedhemloreplacement queue-
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If Elements is scum they're playing a really interesting scum game but me thinks this is just town playhemloreplacement queue-
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In post 214, KatyKimFanClub wrote: I don't think he would put me at the top of a readslist if so, especially since I haven't really done anything yet this game. If anything, given what I think are your inherent suspicions of Skygazer, shouldn't you think I'm being set up?
These two takes feel incompatible (granted i just had a read flip flop myself but yeah)In post 233, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Weirdly, I think Daisy and Skygazer might be the only people on this wagon to truly believe in a case against me?hemloreplacement queue-
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You're also the scummiest in my PoE at the moment. Okay IAVH is the scummiest in my PoE but they still *feel* like they'll flip town. Penguin had some good real time engagement with me, Oopsie posted a quality meme, Elements is doing kinda townie stuff, uh fuck I forgot to put kitty in my PoEIn post 236, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Eh, I can see why you scumread for that, but it's very much an intentional decision.
I'm not interested in giving away my reads this early, nor do I care about advancing the game state if I think that the current one is good enough for town. If you would like me to elaborate on my philosophy, I can, but as an example, I think I get more towards solving the game if I can keep disscussion on why Daisy and iavh think a meta read on me is relevant by Page 4 than if I move on to a different topic.
I guess to clarify my position, advancing the game state is generally good, but I don't really see what giving my reads this early would really do. We have a lot of time left in the day to gather information and I don't think there's been enough time in the game for me to have a significant change in opinion on people's alignments yet.hemloreplacement queue-
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1) what an interesting conclusion to jump toIn post 242, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Fair, but if your worry is that I'm being fed lines by a partner, then I hope I've assuaged some of those suspicions by now?
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about to go back to the grind but generally nonchalantness is a scum tell from my experience; nsg has caught me a few times bc i didn't engage in people scum reading early me in hopes it would just go away. town usually engage more when they get scumread despite the unlikeliness of getting eliminated earlyhemloreplacement queue-
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The real time stuff was just why I started townreading PP. I laid out why I'm scumreading you so it's interesting you're jumped to a different reason to me. idkIn post 248, KatyKimFanClub wrote:
I thought that was the implication when you said "time management" and from posts 196 and 240 with PP.In post 246, Skygazer wrote:
1) what an interesting conclusion to jump toIn post 242, KatyKimFanClub wrote: Fair, but if your worry is that I'm being fed lines by a partner, then I hope I've assuaged some of those suspicions by now?
2) so you're saying your partner is inexperienced and unhelpful?hemloreplacement queue-
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"not engaging" might have been a poor choice of phrasing but you yourself admitted you werent taking it seriouslyhemloreplacement queue-
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well now i feel plagiarizedIn post 276, KatyKimFanClub wrote: make me feel a little bit dismissed?hemloreplacement queue-
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new signature idea: "sorry, i wasn't thinking when i wrote this"hemloreplacement queue-
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enjoy it while it lastsIn post 279, PenguinPower wrote: yes, and i am greener so i win
i still feel the sting of coming back to a normal uncolored name after site flakinghemloreplacement queue-
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banning people was my favorite part
i mean uh everything was working correctly with the GTKAS role and i definitely was not able to do thathemloreplacement queue-
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hilariously i did have the ability to post in the ban thread but only from the GTKAS forumhemloreplacement queue-
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perhaps i am saying too much
anyways i'm fine w a katy yeet today as wellhemloreplacement queue-
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i've seen kitty get elimmed so many times D1 that i kinda wanna trust their whole "hey i put my foot in my mouth a lot so i'm gonna avoid that" thing... for nowhemloreplacement queue-
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i'm actually usually more timid bc i say stupid shit a lot (see signature) but i've had some "decent town moments" lately so i figure i should trust my reads before and push them harderhemloreplacement queue-
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uhhhhhh vibesIn post 309, Deltabreedy wrote: I'm keen to have a clear justification from Sky on how they arrived at their narrowed-down scumpool.hemloreplacement queue-
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follow up: im pretty sure i posted that reads list in line at a sandwich shop, so maybe the horseradish provided me with some fleeting enlightenmentIn post 310, Skygazer wrote:
uhhhhhh vibesIn post 309, Deltabreedy wrote: I'm keen to have a clear justification from Sky on how they arrived at their narrowed-down scumpool.hemloreplacement queue-
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I feel like I'm being a little obtuse so I'll just say that I'm transparent with my reads when I want to be and sometimes I just like stirring stuff up a bit.hemloreplacement queue-
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i do have some amount of confidence in kkfc flipping red for reasons i've outlined, otherwise i would have probably unvoted when i realized they were at e-1.
PP and Elements are probably my most confident town reads at the moment, and Elements is probably more out of scumrange than PP is.hemloreplacement queue-
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PP is kind of a chat mafia read; they responded very naturally in real time. I also find myself agreeing with their takes a lot. I've noticed that sometimes scum stop pushing me when they realize I'm hard to push so PP dropping their scumread gave me a lil pause, but I can see how they arrived at their read flip based on my posting. They also announced the read flip whereas I feel like scum usually silently stop pushing to keep their options open.hemloreplacement queue-
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