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ika got my last rvs.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Gah.
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hmm? I'm no longer "!!RAGING!!" at ika.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I didn't answer his questionIn post 15, pisskop wrote:hmm? I'm no longer "!!RAGING!!" at ika.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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o.oIn post 13, Kthxbye wrote:why did you feel the need to explain why you didn't give your vote back to ika this time?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Maybe I'm not following you.
That is his question, yes?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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You were the second person to ask, so I figured it deserved an answer.
ika and I have a tenuous history.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I don't think I follow.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Its fine Xay. :/ I think ts just overaggression.
Apparently they haven't read my meta. Im rather derpy, yeabeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 27, Kthxbye wrote:Look at it this way, I didn't RVS you first again this go around and didn't feel a need to address it when I didn't do it. Opposite ways of going about re-RVS. Opposite ways of going about it could lead to opposite thought processes. Opposite thought processes could lead to opposite alignments. Opposite alignments leads to him being scum.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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^^In post 28, Kcdaspot wrote: nice overanalyzing. IGMEOY
My overall reaction to the above quote. Translated to me sounds like Wifom.
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Okay, so I recognize that explaining a prior vote in RVS is unusual. I was trying to make a nod to ika while poking a Xay. As you can see, we're like superbffs.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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As far as reads, I don't think I have much to go off. :/In post 54, d3x wrote:So you're TownReading everyone pointing at you? Why do you have nothing to bring to the discussion?
This would be the most standout thing around. A self-vote in the grey area between RVS and early game. I would say that rather then expecting us to comment upon her, she is say 'comment' as in 'here is a comment'.
If I had to pick out a scum from everyone who commented upon my interactions I would pick Xay; for his defense for me. Scum Xay could be pretending to avoid a quickhammer as a way to gain towncredit early.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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The last three pages are half made up of KCDA (KCDA has 19/75 posts), and because I usually try to study read flops and pushes I won't make too much out of the three pages. It all feels like omgus to me, and later when I have real points the RVS may become supporting points...In post 70, d3x wrote:don't see anything that's been said in the last 3 pages as alignment indicative or even leaning? What do you normally do to gain reads? Do you feel like you've been contributing/accomplishing that here? Have you fully read the thread?
It was a self-vote, for one. even in RVS it sticks out. I tend to believe RVS self-votes are slightly town-leaning.In post 73, Aisa wrote:In what way did my post stand out to you? Do you think it is scummy?
More interesting is your 'comment'. What does it mean? To mean it looks like you are deliberately calling attention to yourself, but for social reasons. Are you familiar with several individuals in the game? Because otherwise I would assume you are just posting to announce you are here. Which would be a shade more null.
But I don't want to put much into it before you post real content. Its potentially a towntell to me, or another point in a case if it becomes a pattern.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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We haven't been in too many games together. But as scum I think I would let the town know I disagreed with a wagon like this. Its easy cred when it flips, and if it doesn't then I can still say I was objective throughout it.In post 73, Aisa wrote:"X did Y to gain towncred" is applicable to a lot things. Is this outside of Xay's normal town meta?
Xay doesn't seem prone to that kind of thinking, but I've never officially met Scum Xay.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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-on KCDI tends to see KCDs posts as very esscentric and now slightly town. Its one thing to be all over the board; but its another to prove you are paying attention with prompt corrections like this. I like it.
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Umm no. I am waiting for continued reactions from him. Specifically I wanted to see how he progressed with his vote on d3x. My experience with him is that he's a fairly honest and straightforward person. You can typically take what he says at face value. So, when he unvotes 3d3x after saying thisIn post 98, Aisa wrote:You seem more oriented towards justifying your suspicion of Xay than trying to understand if he is actually scum.
I wonder if he is trying create some breathing room for himself.In post 89, Xayzeck wrote:because you're twisting words in order to look like you're scumhunting.
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I prefer to look for odd patterns of behavior. read-flipping, post syntax, general consistency, and sometimes comparison to meta.In post 83, d3x wrote:If you're more into breaking down Night Actions {flips, etc}, how do you normally play D1s?
Which questions? Many of these questions are kind of insulting.@piss- Please answer the rest of my questions along with this new one.
What kind of answer could I offer except actual content?In post 54, d3x wrote:Why do you have nothing to bring to the discussion?
1) :/In post 70, d3x wrote:1)You don't see anything that's been said in the last 3 pages as alignment indicative or even leaning?2)What do you normally do to gain reads?3)Do you feel like you've been contributing/accomplishing that here?4)Have you fully read the thread?
2) answered above and prior.
3) Yes. I am not fond of RVS for much more than a chance to socialize before business, so a wagon on me has propelled us into early game.
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Xay: Why is d3x town? You never quite answered his question about whether or not you felt he tried to misrepresent you.
As far as my own d3x read, I disliked his 19. At the time I thought it was scummy, but at this time I'm not so sure. It falls into line considering he is focused on Xay/Kthnx/I. Which in itself is something I'd like to note for later.
Do not understand his vote on you in 94 and personally loved 110. ika would have you think I'm some herpderper, but he wouldn't ever mention that in our one completed game I literally won the game for us after he left.
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He went from one vote to another without an 'unvote'.In post 89, Xayzeck wrote:I don't understand how this makes him super town, or why you don't unvote after saying it.
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Not much to say right now. Focused on kthnx. I hope its not a tunnel.
I agree with this insofar as he is very challenging. Why would anybody have to know his meta to scumread him?In post 99, ICEninja wrote:This is a ridiculous response.
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This is not my experience with ika. To reduce all the current conversation to as series of one-liners and then proceed to post a practically naked vote on somebody is enough to flag him for watch. This same ika spent pages setting up and playing intellectual games to try to ferret out scum before.In post 101, ika wrote:does everyone feel the need to have giant wall posts and respond with one liners?
all of this shit can be cluttered up and made me merly glance though becasue its just like quotes within quotes about shit.
so far the onyl legit thing i have seen is a case on Kthxbye so im just gonna sheep for now untill we have some real info
VOTE: Kthxbye
His apparent apathy doesn't seem genuine to me, otherwise he would just request to be placed out instead of just adding to the mess. Im not even getting into his opinion of me in 109, considering everything I've witnessed him do and say. I don't want grudges carried on inter-game, but he makes it so easy sometimes.
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I don't like this. He never stated he was making any excuse for his actions, so I'm a little confused where you are getting this opinion of him. And I don't find much of what KCD to be scummy. Somewhat spazzy and all over the place, perhaps. But not even very VI. Its clear he knows what he is saying, even if nobody else does. I don't know if this is a shtick from him or what but I guarantee we will find out as we play.In post 100, Lucresia wrote:I feel like he has given off the strongest scum vibes. I do think there's a chance he could be VI which would mean it might not be the smartest lynch on day 1. I don't want that to be his excuse, just like how pisskop gave the derpy excuse, which is essentially the same
What makes KCD scummiest thus far?
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I sorry you don't like me? I hope you understand that with my limited experience I don't quite know how to respond to my flashwagon. I see you as an overaggressive player of some experience, which means I will probably never have a good townread on you. Right now I see you as slightly town because you don't seem to mind upsetting people, and there's a certain amount of genuine irritation you've expressed at the game.In post 82, Kthxbye wrote:Still unimpressed at PK's posts and they just come off....fake. It's like he's TRYING to keep his cool. Maybe he's a completely different player than I am, but when I get wagoned when I'm town, I automatically look at my own wagon for the scum voting me.
Why would you acknowledge that I most likely have a different playstyle than you but still try to scumread me for it?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Oh. Here.
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Stay with us. You seem so different this game . . .beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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gah. again.
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In post 115, pisskop wrote:But not even very VI. Its clear he knows what he is saying,beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Did you notice how I still, for the most part, have nothing from the first three pages? I dont find RVS or very early game useful until I need to make associations. I dont understand why this bothers you so much.In post 119, d3x wrote:Here's my problem with this. At the bottom of page 3, you said you had nothing to really go off of in terms of reads. You just said that you develop reads and play D1 by examining other's consistency {among other things}. There had been more than enough to start formulating opinions {if not reads} by the amount of nonRVS discussion across almost 3 pages, but you were handwaving at it saying you had nothing to really comment on
In post 119, d3x wrote:How on God's green Earth are my questions to you insulting? Trust me, when I mean to insult you, you'll fucking well know it
1) Of course I had gut feelings. But that alone is nothing to base a read on. Its three pages, and not everyone even bothered to post. Do you think I should have omgused your post 19?In post 119, d3x wrote:This entire block has me scratching my head. I'll tackle it a point at a time.
1- What is that stupid emote supposed to mean?
2- noted.
3- Your response makes no sense in regards to you gaining reads. At this point you had given nothing and only said that there's nothing to work with. Are you saying that your contribution to the game {at the time of your posting} was being Wagoned? Seriously?
4- This is a valid fucking question. ika hasn't read the thread, why should I assume you have? Until very recently, you haven't acted like you'd read the thread. You're saying you formulate reads D1 by looking at interactions, but you said that the 1st 3 pages had nothing for you to go off of. I'd say there's quite a bit in terms of player interactions. Stop posting emotes and answer my questions
3) Your question was how I contributed. Since I had done nothing but respond to questions I hadn't done anything of merit.
4) No. its an insult. When you ask if Ive read the game it comes off as 'are you a moron, mate? You cant see why I would find it insulting?
And the first three pages is full of random votes and akward wifom. The beginning of the game is only situationally useful after initial content is generated.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I think he leans scum. Im waiting for something I feel is conclusive.In post 185, Thomith wrote:, pisskop do you think d3x is town or scum?
I dont think 3dx and kthnx are buddies, but I think its likely one is scum. Too much aggression from both (esp kthnx) and too obvious on the buddying.
Do explain. Was I ever scumreading KCD?In post 185, Thomith wrote:#115 nice flip flop
That was the point of the answer.In post 185, Thomith wrote:I think you just answered your own question
outside of that, yes I think a fair portion of my activity in any game is answering questions.
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Rhinox. Got nothing of note. Doesnt seem concerned with impressing people. So that.
Titus. You. :/ I was slightly suprised when mod said ikafoundyou. Post more please.
Thom. Very upfront. Some issues for me following everything but definitely putting in work.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Do please explain.In post 194, Aisa wrote:. It's a rather poor reason to vote him.
I feel they are a little too obvious about it. Part of it is that it seems to have really sprung up after Xay and I mentioned we joined together.In post 196, Thomith wrote:also - plissk, why don't you think d3x/kthx are buddies? alot of their interactions seem forced and faked, or at least a little weird.
In RVS they had their haha, but it was blatently obvious when they started comparing their friendship to the interactions between Xay/I. If the two of them are scum were acting in tandum to push Xay/I then I dont know why they would buddy up to lynch townies. Fairly counterintuitive, imo.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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This is my scumslip? Refering to Xayzeck as a 'townie' in a hypothetical about a kthnx/d3x scumteam?In post 200, Kthxbye wrote:Next is this weird connection between him and Xay. d3x and I are close friends irl and play together often on this sight. If anything, I'm more suspect of him possibly being scum when I'm town than anything. The complete opposite is found from PK in regards to Xay's alignment culminating in his scum slip in p197 lumping himself in with Xay as "townies". There is absolutely no way (barring Masons which I doubt this game has)
Thats . . . thats sometthing.
Titus, is this really town to you?
What do you think Aisa?
Any thoughts on ika's behavior?
Opinion of KCD?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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bolded edit.In post 201, pisskop wrote:Titus, is this really town to you?
What do you thinkofAisa?
Any thoughts on ika's behavior?
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In post 234, Kthxbye wrote:Ok, first things first.
Ok, but I'm going to spoiler it so this doesn't get too long.In post 211, Titus wrote:Kthx, can you go through premise by premise why Pisskop slipped?
Spoiler: PK's slip and lead up to it.
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Aisa, I'm sorry you're tired, but you need to post more content. All I see from your last post is you pretty much being agreeable to the current situation of the game without any original thoughts of your own. I'd like a full reads list from you on each player with explanations of why you are reading them whichever way. I'm not fully convinced you're not skimming this game and actively lurking.
We clearly need to clarify our relationship. I don't know Xayzeck in real life. I've played a grand total of 3 games with him, including this one. I am not on the same level with him as other posters on the site, and certainly not on not on the same level as some posters I know from other forums. I like him, and agreed to coordinate more play with him. We aren't going to display some keen insight in regards to the others posts for this reason. Maybe in time, but not at this time.No suspicion that Xay might be scum.
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:/ Let's quote the whole thing now, for context.Weirdness aside, super bffs
"I was trying to make a nod to ika . . . As you can see, we're like superbffs." And I would hope you can see the sarcasm by now.In post 68, pisskop wrote:I was trying to make a nod to ika while poking a Xay. As you can see, we're like superbffs.
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Fair point. I've been fencey on the Xay issue.So, first part is Xay did something that PK thinks scum would do. Second part is this isn't something he sees Xay doing? Third part is he's never met Scum Xay? .... Whaaa...this is fense sitting at it's finest...or worst depending how you look at it.
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I don't think I follow. Are you asking why I'm 'buddying Xay' if I think your buddying is suspicious?...cricket....cricket....anyone else see the problem with this? d3x and I are obviously buddying....? Um..........I won't post all the quotes from both of them that happen before this, but let's just say....yeah....
Now, if he actually thought that one of me or d3x is scum due to this obvious buddying, why is he buddying, then "suspicious" then scumslip buddying Xay? Why didn't town him stick to Xay-scum read if this is really what he thinks leads to scum?
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At least I am not the only one who doesn't see it.Scumslip.
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I apparently committed a scumslip nobody can see, and I did it by keeping my vote on Xay while fencesitting. I don't know how clear Xay and I can make it, we aren't incredibly knowledgeable of the other. And I am unsure if you purposely misconstrued the bff comment in 68.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Im still voting Titus. I was waiting for her response, and while it wasn't great its enough that I think Xay/Kthnx are the wagons of today.In post 242, Rhinox wrote:Xay is L-2. The only thing I'm interested in right now is why PrivateI, kthx, Titus, piss, Kcd, and Lucresia are not voting Xay
Maybe buddying is the wrong word. They play up their relationship at several points in a way I think they wouldn't as a scumteam. I think one of them is scum though.In post 245, Thomith wrote:@PK can you point out where d3x and kthx have been buddying? i have seen a few weird interactions that seem false but i don't remember them explicitly "buddying" each other.
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No, Im saying there was no reason to change it because it was already on.In post 251, d3x wrote:Wait... Are you saying this was a legit Vote?
In post 249, Kthxbye wrote:Know what PK, explain your p197 where you group yourself and Xay as townies
So you need a breakdown of the hypothetical?In post 201, pisskop wrote:This is my scumslip? Refering to Xayzeck as a 'townie' in a hypothetical about a kthnx/d3x scumteam?
I said, loosely, that 'if kthnx and 3dx were scum together then they wouldn't team up to push Xay and I.' If kthnx/3dx are buddies, then presumably Xay isn't their buddy as well because of how hard they pushed him.
I don't think I can make this any clearer to anybody.
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I will look again at my kthnx case and either vote Xay or him.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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174, 180, and 184. Aye. It was so quick I thought you would have expounded on it a little.In post 205, Titus wrote:I don't really feel like banging my head against a brick wall but I will if required.
Your posts lack their usual frequency or personality, imo. But it seems to me that that is not a good tell for you.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Sorry, I guess I quoted the wrong part. I mean this, which is representative of the kind of thing you've said to/about kthnx this game.
@thomIn post 70, d3x wrote:@Kthx- Your normal early game obvTown play and
I am not including their interactions in my reasons why I think either may be scum, I just think it indicates they aren't scum together.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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My case on kthnx written down:
Kthnxs non-RVS voting pattern is
13 pisskop, for RVS
48 xay, for unvoting me
58 pisskop, presumably for pressure
118 ika, naked, presumably for ika voting kthnx
131 xay, sheeps 3dx onto Xay again
149 KCD, is his 1v1 on KCD
198 pisskop, for 'scumslip'
erratic, but he seems to prefer those who are popular targets or scumreadng him.
His playstyle is an aggressive one, so keeping that in mind:
I still don't understand this, or the merit in it. Can somebody explain it? :/In post 27, Kthxbye wrote:I saw that he felt the need to say his last RVS vote switched which, IMO, is him explaining that he is voting someone else in THIS rendition of RVS and recognizing in the RVS vote post it before anyone can question him about it. Look at it this way, I didn't RVS you first again this go around and didn't feel a need to address it when I didn't do it. Opposite ways of going about re-RVS. Opposite ways of going about it could lead to opposite thought processes. Opposite thought processes could lead to opposite alignments. Opposite alignments leads to him being scum.
His pushes on kcd seem unwarranted and over a playstyle rather than its content. Contrast to Titus' that focuses on his content.
He goes from 47 to post 66
in which he calls out KCDs rationalism (KCD clearly doesn't want to quicklynch anyone, but that doesn't stop kthnx from strawmanning it up). Also of note is suggesting that his reads are subject to change as he 'figures' out VI from scum.In post 66, Kthxbye wrote:...Too hard to tell VI from scum.....
He downplays the case on him in 106. It was best put forth in post 99, however its scattered all over the page.
The single most offputting post he has made thus far:
. My issue is the tone. It, to me, comes off as a vague threat coupled with promising reassurance. Putting other people on edge and then agreeing with them is a way to keep them docile. It manipulates the relationship in that he took an implied rule and used it for towncredits.In post 131, Kthxbye wrote:I will lynch you in a heartbeat if I think you're scum and you will do the same. I guess I'll sheep you for the moment onto
Post 144 is him having to be reminded that different playstyles exist, which he seems to acknowledge in 82 and later in 200. twice in 200.
151 is his 1v1 of kcd, which he abandoned as soon as he saw a better opportunity (and that it didn't have much support).
how did I miss this in my 'buddying' text above? :/ that's cool, here. Downplaying more cases on him.In post 164, Kthxbye wrote:Really d3x? really? you agree with all that bullshit post with his bullshit case is legit somehow? WTF... and I thought we were friends.
198 is the scumslip he has been pushing to the present.In post 198, Kthxbye wrote:More later, much more, but this had to be pointed out.
:/In post 200, Kthxbye wrote:pisskop: Prob scum. A total of one post from this slot that had me reading his as town (p115). First thing that sticks out is him not even looking at those on his wagon for possible scum. This is the complete opposite of what I see wagoned town (including myself) tend to do. Next is this weird connection between him and Xay. d3x and I are close friends irl and play together often on this sight. If anything, I'm more suspect of him possibly being scum when I'm town than anything. The complete opposite is found from PK in regards to Xay's alignment culminating in his scum slip in p197 lumping himself in with Xay as "townies". There is absolutely no way (barring Masons which I doubt this game has) that he could know Xay's alignment without being scum and either KNOWING Xay is town or trying to make them both out to be town while they are both scum. My opinion at the moment is he should be today's lynch.
After Titus asks for clarification on the scumslip he writes a full case on me in [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5734055234[/url]and then continues to try to shove his case down any wordhole he can find.
To continue on buddying, in 252 I made a small list of quotes:Swap post 70 for 164 and you have four fine examples of potential buddying to me.
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-on Xay
First, only 17 posts. of a current 262.
Reflexive unvote on a wagon in 38. It was L-3, however he claims he though it was L-1 as per 9 player newbie games.
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is a standout statement, however imo it reflects better with the genuineness of his personality. I think him stating we will be buddying up is worse than him telling you that you'll have to deal with it, but that's just me.In post 45, Xayzeck wrote:Also, pkop and I will probably buddy quite a bit this game, because we chose to join together. It's up to you to decide if it's alignment indicative for this game
:/ This is an upsetting sentiment.In post 89, Xayzeck wrote:if I do actually buddy him a lot and he flips scum I don't get mislynched.
in 160 there are two things that upset me.
He sheeps without a reason and proclaims he is town. Both are slightly scummy in my eyes.
217 was an admission of defeat. Either as a town giving up or scum.
Overall I can see scum motivation in it, and its hard to ignore the combined cases of posts like 205 and 212.
I'm claiming intent.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I don't think I've been ignoring you, just focused elsewhere.
To me, you are nullscum. You have some good and some bad posting, and I'm watching you the same way I watch any nullscum individual.
143 LinkyIn post 214, d3x wrote:Ugh. Why do you insist on being such a passive player? Why don't you ask me something instead of 'waiting' on something. Maybe it's just a playstyle difference, but this kind of stuff just feels like a huge copout. Also, why have you not responded to anything I said in p143? I'd think that if you're interested in me as Scum, you wouldn't pass up the chance to delve into a discussion I'm having... with you.
In the very early game, esp in a game where many people don't know each other, its easy to find faux reasons people are or aren't scummy. Its much more reliable to reference RVS/early game after time has passed and use it to support more founded cases.In post 143, d3x wrote:RVS died super early. Forgiving a post or two here or there, it was done by p13/14.
I don't think I was actively lurking. I just didn't have any substantial content to post. Gut Reads have gotten me lynched in other games, when I presented them. Aside, by withholding my gutreads I give them time to grow into provable connections. Presenting them early can alter the behaviors of those I am watching.In post 143, d3x wrote:If you felt like dropping an OMGUS on me, so be it. Overall, I think you should have posted the gut feelings you had on others. How are we supposed to get a read on you and how are you supposed to interact with others if you're not going to post. Doing anything else is {active}Lurking. Saying you had 'nothing to go off of' is clearly not the same as 'having gut feelings'. Why did you not want to participate in the discussion with your 'gut feelings', thus pushing us further from the RVS that you deem to be largely worthless?
The above is about how I feel about it.In post 190, Rhinox wrote:especially when letting the interactions continue provides way more valuable information.
I am. I ask questions, and I watch responses. I freely admit I am a somewhat passive player, and have been told by more aggressive players I should be more pushy with my pushing ( :/ ). That is, that I should be presenting cases sooner and giving the target less time to respond with appeals.In post 143, d3x wrote:In reference to how you gain reads, I asked what your biggest contribution had been. Since you have since said that you gain reads by gauging reactions, why were you not trying to get those reactions?
Aisa hasn't posted enough to really understand her, and she asked me questions about the first three pages. I responded to her.In post 143, d3x wrote: -Your reaction to Aisa in p69 is based off of the 1st 3 pages, but you waited for someone to call you out on not producing content before you posted it.
-Your further discussion with Aisa in p75 is based off of stuff from the 1st 3 pages.
-You finally gave a reaction to my push on you page 1 in p115. You also talk about your progressing read on Xay, which has roots in the 1st 3 pages.
And imo Xay's scummiest content comes well after 100 posts. his early play is made relevant to his later play, not the other way around.
In short, I don't think I am playing terribly, just in a passive manner more suited for analysis than playing a social game.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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pm me when you want to play together again.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Can you point out a few posts?
Also, who else?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Titus, where did the scumread on me come from?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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:/ why did you vote me just now? Out of protest?
What points did kthnx make that you think are decent?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Xay is L-1. :/
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welcome to my townlist, bro.
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Hunh? Okay.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 287, Kthxbye wrote:if PK really felt that letting interactions continue provides way more valuable information
I took this amoung other things that the day was closing. I happened to agree that we have a lot of information that will come out over any flip. Answer the case against you, and stop shoving misrepresented quotes down the Town's throat. We need rationality, not baseless yelling. Nor do we need this:In post 261, Rhinox wrote:Lynches should happen when they're ready to happen
. I have given at least a whole case worth of content, which you choose to ignore.In post 287, Kthxbye wrote:PK never came up with some original thought nor did he give us his reads list.
Umm, no. My case on you is quite valid. I am presenting it from my perspective.In post 287, Kthxbye wrote:Next, let's look at the 2 cases. If you ask me, his post about me looks waaay more convincing to himself than what he had to say about Xay....yet he 'hammers' Xay???
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I missed Thom's vote, or rather it didn't quite click that he unvoted Xay.In post 288, Lucresia wrote:@ pisskop - Did you think you were hammering him when you placed your vote?
In post 291, Xayzeck wrote:Day QT? Where'd you get that idea from lol
It was mostly so everyone knew I was going to hammer him after I finished my business (3dx's questions) and could intervene if they felt the need to. Xay already claimed VT in 202, so I was trying to make sure everyone knew it was coming. I was unsure if I should have worded it as such, but I guess I know now . . .In post 292, Rhinox wrote:What I wanna know pk is what was the point of claiming intent and then hamering 2 posts later when no one posted in between?
What about a scenerio in which I am town trying to get flip information to strengthen my own suspicions? I already said I'm watching you. Yea, it was a derphammer, I had to talk myself into hammering him, and it was hard.In post 296, d3x wrote:I find it much more plausible for NewbScumpiss to derpHammer than ScumXay to play it out as he did. It pains me to say that. UnVote
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So, does everyone townread kthnx now? Or is anybody worried why he would just steamroll past a case on him? Post 262 and he blatantly ignores a scumcase on him? I'm not voting Xay today, again, and this makes kthnx the second viable wagon in my eyes. All we get in response to it is this:
?In post 283, Kthxbye wrote:Pk, nobody cares about your scum case. Diebeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Oh, you are aware there was no slip? He's even moved away from that and started pushing even odder things, now that I've broken it down for everybody.In post 276, Titus wrote:I buy kthx's slip when you referred to Xay as a townie. Bleh. I'm fairly certain I am wrong on one of the two of you. My town read says you and provides a decent but not flawless slip.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Ill catch up tomorrow, but I suggest you go find the posts I plagiarized. LiarIn post 305, Kthxbye wrote:Your whole 'case' on me is plagiarism from other players and what they've already said. Thus me saying nothing of original thought.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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The point isnt that its weak, its that he's lying through his teeth to make a lynch. You, stop defending him. Stop ameliorating his own scumminess.In post 308, Titus wrote:The plagarism on Pisskop also is much weaker than you make it out to be.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 300, Rhinox wrote:No, I do not have a town read on Kthx. That said, I don't really get what your case on him is. Can you maybe give me the bulletpoint version rather than the paragraph version?
And now bulleted, in a nutshellIn post 262, pisskop wrote:My case on kthnx written down:
-Erratic voting pattern that focuses on either top wagons or those that specifically scumread him
-wtf is post 27?
-pushes on kcd over a playstyle difference rather than content.
-Strawmans KCD, myself.
-post 131
-1v1 weirdness on kcd, whoch he abandons quickly when winds change.
-He pushes this 'scumslip' on me, which I could understand him not following the game, but continues to push it after its disproven.
-Is now saturating the game with blatantly false aggressive overtures.
Because 24 hours is totally an unreasonable timeframe to wait to comply.In post 311, Kthxbye wrote:which someone asked you to provide and you seem not to carebeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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When did you stop scumreading kthx?In post 314, ICEninja wrote:My vote will almost certainly fall on one of the 3 between piss, Titus, and PI. I'm leaning piss at the moment.
Also why?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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I don't understand this post.In post 343, Titus wrote:Pisskop's counterargument is shit, but I do apply logic to make sure if I m right.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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If anything I think Ice Ninja and Titus are partners.
99 Ice posts a case on kthx and votes
101 ika follows without really explaining why.
Note how ikanevermentions Ice's name once. Ever.
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In post 109, ika wrote:The PK case: hes more of VI from what i have seen but wont mind lynching him as utility.
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171 and 174. Initial posts by Titus. An unvote of kthx and a vote of a scumread of his, kcda. Buddy much?
175 more buddy.
184 surprise @ more buddy.
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In post 130, ICEninja wrote:While I like lurker hunting, I see d3x's point on voting ika at the moment. I feel like current ika votes are bad but future ika votes could be very good.
Why are they neutral?In post 188, ICEninja wrote:Ika replaced out so his actions are completely neutral.
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199 has bugged me for awhile. Titus and I havezerogames we can mention here. Also noting the 'its so scummy and reckless its town' remark.
In post 208, Titus wrote:I don't like Pisskop as scum. Pisskop's wagon taking off and putting together suggests scum present somewhere on his wagon, not that he was scum.In post 211, Titus wrote:If you'd convince me that Pisskop slipped, then my vote would naturally go there.
Here she ignores the whole hypothetical part of the discussion:In post 276, Titus wrote:I buy kthx's slip when you referred to Xay as a townie. Bleh. I'm fairly certain I am wrong on one of the two of you. My town read says you and provides a decent but not flawless slip.
340 and 343 Still blatently ignoring the whole 'pkop was using a hypothetical to explain why a d3x/kthx scumteam wasn't a thing'. to push a lynch on me.In post 336, Titus wrote:When Kthxbye posted about Pisskop's use of the word "townies" in his post, it implied knowledge that Xay was a townie.
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o.oIn post 231, ICEninja wrote:Xay vs. Thom feels like town on town, though I don't mind it
Or that you push it in a nasty manner.In post 260, ICEninja wrote:Xay scum reads me because I admitted I'm not 100% certain of a day 1 lynch.
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307 Titus defends Ice.
'But I totally buddied him so I won't worry about voting him now.'In post 322, ICEninja wrote:Kthx's early play was very scummy, and some of his really recent stuff has been iffy
329 Ice doesn't provide any reasons for the vote on Titus except a sheep.
More setting up mislynches by Titus.In post 337, Titus wrote:Xay has always been a scumread of mine. I doubt the sudden clearing of him due to the "tell".
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If one flips scum I'm going for the other. I think it's fully possible that kthx is in on it too.
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Care to quote him mentioning Ice?In post 353, Titus wrote:For instance, his big point is that ika never mentioned Ice. That's non-sensebeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Who are you quoting/talking to here? Titus called my 'counterarguement' shit, not me, and Titus didnt write 341, which you mention right above.In post 369, Thomith wrote:If PK's counterarguement is shit why is he not scum for it? Why is he not scum for a crappy
counterarguement just because you can think of one better? How does that work?
197 is clearly hypothetical. How you keep brushing by it and claiming you use logic is beyond me. It even has the word 'if' in it, and kthx has ceded the point.In post 349, Titus wrote:Pisskop, you obviously weren't talking about a hypo in 197. I naturally don't like slip argumenrs. I would hav brushed off Kthx argument if I could find my own reason for it not to be a slip.
I especially like the part of your 353 where I made a case on you/Ice to get you lynched.
In addition, if you thought it really was a slip why do you keep saying things like:
? If you really thought I knew his alignment you wouldnt still be scumreading him.In post 337, Titus wrote:Xay has always been a scumread of mine. I doubt the sudden clearing of him due to the "tell".beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Catching up.
Why does ika placing out make his actions neutral?In post 373, ICEninja wrote:Oh my god this game is so bad.
Can you explain why this is a slip?In post 375, PrivateI wrote:On the assumption that this is another scum slip, My vote is going to go back on
383 I don't understand. I self-cleared myself?
Oh, I get it now.In post 400, Titus wrote:When I'm scum I'm not obv scum ever.
404 half of her list is moot or has been discussed.
15 is a reference to an prior interaction you would be privy to Titus. And you know that we cant discuss that yet.In post 408, Titus wrote:#15 nope 15 ain't downtime. Downtime was near March 1st if memory serves and verification serves me right
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Would like to hear from more from PI, Aisa. I have a null+ read on Aisa, but almost nothing on PI.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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What?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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In post 421, Kthxbye wrote:Oh look, call out pk and poof, like magic, he appears!In post 422, pisskop wrote:What?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Because I don't like to post on Sundays/have classes until 1300 on Mondays you would try to snark me?
Trying to infer alignment from my schedule is at best terrible and at worst scummy.
That irritates me.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Why Aisa or Lucresia?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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That . . . doesn't sound like a compliment.In post 437, Rubicon wrote:I think pisskop would do all of those things as town.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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So you admit to jut throwing things at the wall.In post 435, Kthxbye wrote:Oh, so you DO know what I was talking about....
Except:In post 435, Kthxbye wrote:he didn't even try to get me lynched once a shiney new counter wagon to his formed.
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I find Titus scummy, and with several associations with you.In post 347, pisskop wrote:I think it's fully possible that kthx is in on it too.
And also you and your other buddy were talking here:In post 379, Kthxbye wrote:^this....soooooo much this...In post 397, ICEninja wrote:I totally understand why you're saying what you areIn post 438, Kthxbye wrote:PI: will u be playing this game or...?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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My thoughts:
1) We most likely have found a scum in kthx.In post 252, pisskop wrote:They play up their relationship at several points in a way I think they wouldn't as a scumteam. I think one of them is scum though.In post 262, pisskop wrote:To continue on buddying, in 252 I made a small list of quotes:
.Swap post 70 for 164 and you have four fine examples of potential buddying to me.
2) Ice can still be kthx's buddy.In post 356, ICEninja wrote:While I don't mind your vote on Titus, your painting of me as suspicious with her is a joke.In post 357, Kthxbye wrote:the fact that ika didn't mention ICE and that somehow links them is SO FUCKING STUPID IT'S NOT FUNNY
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-Can you explain this 'slip'?In post 375, PrivateI wrote:On the assumption that this is another scum slip
-Have you read up?
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What happened to your Xay scumread?In post 458, ICEninja wrote:I'm calling the team right now, piss, Rubicon, PrivateI
456 seems like a turnabout from 361.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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It upsets my reads some that Titus was town. I still find him scummy, but Titus proved I was wrong once. What is your take on Ice?In post 470, Rubicon wrote:What do you think of them apples?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Probably going to PI or Ice.
Aisa was a mild townread most of D1. I want to see everyone check in.
Why did you switch votes like that, Xay?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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Independly concerning. I want PI to produce relevant content. I dont think he has made terribly strong associations with anyone. but he has a thing for you.beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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