Mini 1698: MDCXCVIII [C'est fini!]

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:53 pm

I claim woodpecker

I prefer 1 week day 24 hour night but that's ngth so whatever

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #25 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:25 pm

vote: dragonspawn

Dragons kill so obv scum

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #27 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:53 pm

In post 16, pisskop wrote:
In post 11, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:I claim woodpecker

I prefer 1 week day 24 hour night but that's ngth so whatever

you should sign up for dwarf fortress micro then. 7 day days, and pictures of letters killing each other

Let me see if I can handle another game lol

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #32 (isolation #3) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:36 am

why do you think that's vote worthy shazam?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #34 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:45 am

even if it wasn't rvs it's not vote worthy

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #37 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:44 am

rvs is voting for a random reason, you voted for a game related reason which imo isn't rvs

want to try again?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #39 (isolation #6) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:54 am

you know what random means right?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #42 (isolation #7) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:57 am

nevermind. i'm moving on as this is a dumb discussion

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #48 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:01 am

1. I don't care how I look
2. I am not going to lynch him because his idea of what an RVS is doesn't match mine. I like to argue and I could easily spend the entire day phase attacking him because of it but in the end I don't think it's alignment related so I decided to move on.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #55 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:46 am

In post 53, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 47, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 45, Kublai Khan wrote:VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
Scum found.

And how do you know this?

His vote was deliberately not random.

He wasn't the only one though so what else you got?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #56 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:49 am

In post 54, Shazam wrote:
In post 51, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 49, implosion wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
I wanted to do this earlier but there was no one else voting him so it wasn't really worth it. Thank you, KK.
1. Aren't you already voting him? 2. Got to get you a dictionary, cause he had like 3 votes and 3 isn't a bunch

Yeah I
Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.

VOTE: implosion

Agreed. I'm not going to vote him yet because he has a bunch of votes already, but FoS for sure.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:50 am

Wtf?I was trying to quote shazsm

1. Aren't you already voting him?

2. Got to get you a dictionary, cause he had like 3 votes and 3 isn't a bunch

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #59 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:51 am

Nvm, shazam change to bulba

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #72 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:39 am

In post 70, Necessary Evil wrote:This idea that we need multiple suspects is awfully strange.

Hi, have you played mafia before?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #78 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:30 am

In post 74, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 57, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 53, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 47, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 45, Kublai Khan wrote:VOTE: GrayFoxxxx
Scum found.

And how do you know this?

His vote was deliberately not random.

And that makes him scum because...?

Think about it. Random voting is done to elicit some reactions and voting is done based on what reactions seem dishonest. GrayFoxxxx's vote was the opposite. He votes in a way that says "hey, don't be upset, I'm just random voting because I have to. Don't take it personally, the choice is out of my hands."

He's not looking to generate a reaction. He's looking to avoid one.

Therefore scum.

You missed my post obviously cause I pointed out he wasn't the only one, I don't even think he was the first to vote without a random reason so why is he scum and not the others?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #88 (isolation #15) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:36 am

In post 85, Boonskiies wrote:FoS: Wackpecker

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #92 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:00 pm

In post 87, Boonskiies wrote:I actually really like this.

Why?

And again since nobody else is addressing it, why is it bad that he did it but not anyone else? Shazam didn't rvs vote.

Plus I've seen town vote using random.org and even tilling dice before, not using a rvs isn't really that scummy. Usually it's scum who try to twist the situation...

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #97 (isolation #17) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:24 pm

In post 96, Boonskiies wrote:I don't really feel the need to explain why I liked a post? It's pretty self-explanatory if you read his post.

When its not even accurate, yeah you sort of do

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #100 (isolation #18) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:36 pm

Agreeew with an inaccurate post yet tells me to get some common sense

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #106 (isolation #19) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:45 pm

In post 101, Boonskiies wrote:Explain how it's inaccurate.

I already did, do you not read posts?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #109 (isolation #20) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:47 pm

In post 92, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Plus I've seen town vote using random.org and even tilling dice before, not using a rvs isn't really that scummy. Usually it's scum who try to twist the situation...

Quoting for people who obviously can't or refuse to read.

I know a player on this site who purposely used non random methods for rvs just to create discussion.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #110 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:47 pm

In post 108, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 78, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:You missed my post obviously cause I pointed out he wasn't the only one, I don't even think he was the first to vote without a random reason so why is he scum and not the others?

I didn't count this because you obviously didn't put much thought into it.

"I don't think". You are taking things out of context, and trying to look for things that really don't mean anything. Fluffy to the max.

Should have kept reading til you found the one I was actually talking about... But don't worry I quoted it for you

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #111 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:48 pm

BTW tilling dice = rolling dice

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #115 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:52 pm

I'm trying to get people to explain their double standard. When people call 1 person scum for something and ignore others who did the same thing that's suspicious. Looks like certain players have an agenda. Scum have agendas. Town have a more open mind.

But way to misrep what I'm doing.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #117 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:02 pm

You outright accused me of posting to appear like.in doing something when I'm not, yet I actually am doing something. How did I misrep you exactly?

Saying I'm not doing anything isn't true so its misreppping my posts.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #125 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:21 pm

In post 119, Boonskiies wrote:You done yet?

Yeah for now.

vote: Khan

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #127 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:24 pm

I don't think so cause like I said, he called out 1 person and ignores at least 1 other person who did the same thing plus he avoided my question and that's indicative of scum when they don't have a good answer.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #130 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:28 pm

Well yea khans reason is fabricated cause town can andnhas votes in rvs without a random reason. It's absolutely not alignment indicative like Khan is suggesting, which is why I find you agreeing with him also suspect.

Shall I go find games where town voted without a random reason M cause I can probably find one in less than 5 minutes

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #145 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:46 pm

In post 142, Kublai Khan wrote:Sorry, I thought I had addressed it. He was the only one using a system to make his choice. The alphabet.

So why not say that? Saying he didn't use an rvs reason when I already pointed out shazam didn't use rvs was weird.

Fair enough but with that said

Using a system isn't necessarily scummy as like I said I've seen town do it before

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #146 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:51 pm

In post 142, Kublai Khan wrote:Who do you think acted similar to GrayFoxxxx that I should be voting?

Shazam didn't use a random reason either

In post 142, Kublai Khan wrote:Why did you wait to long to vote me for "ignoring" your question?

I was trying to decide if it was legitimately scummy or was I just being stupid. I have a habit of voting people for stupid reason sometimes

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #147 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:47 pm

In post 143, dragonspawn wrote:Both have been resisting/defending the push on implosion.

this is absolutely not true with regards to me. try again

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #148 (isolation #31) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:57 am

In post 73, Necessary Evil wrote:I think we're better off focusing on one at a time. It creates more pressure and keeps the town from becoming splintered.

now I can speak from experience because I love to tunnel my scum reads. focusing on 1 person at a time is actually a detriment to the game and not helpful. pressuring multiple people are better for a variety of reasons but the most important one is looking at how people react to each of the wagons and votes.

multiple wagons and counter wagons help the game out more, especially later in the game when their are flips to analyze, especially if we happen to lynch scum.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #149 (isolation #32) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:59 am

In post 89, implosion wrote:
People discussing my vote wrote:RVS literally requires no reason and D1 requires only a weak one.

Yeah I Dont like this. Town doesn't need cover for a vote.

Switching from a singleton vote to another person with no votes on them seems rather pointless when the aim is to get the game moving and start seeing how people react to votes. I wanted to vote for GrayFoxxxx, but there wasn't much point in it and I didn't particularly like any other votes I saw.

My reasoning is similar to Khan's. Overjustified RVS votes are scummy, although this was a minor case.

Another miscellaneous thing: Khan's vote/reasoning is not a towntell. Reasoning is reasoning, it's the kind of thing that will be done as either town or scum.

this is actually a good post.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #150 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:07 am

In post 122, implosion wrote:Also, Woody, to actually address the point you're making... yes, Shazam didn't RVS vote. He voted with an actual reason (whether or not he actually thought it was a strong reason to vote). Gray voted with a fabricated reason, or a pseudo-random reason.

Besides, just because two people do similar things in two posts, doesn't mean they made the same post. Different posts can have different feels to them. And "I've seen town do X" does not mean that X is not scummy.

1. re: gray/shazam - fair enough

2. yes sometimes when town does stuff it is scummy. things like lying for example, lurking, being useless... those are things I see town does and is scummy. Voting somebody for a reason like the alphabet not so much. if anything I give it a slight town vibe because whether intentionally or not he's doing something to create reactions and reactions are good for finding scum.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #151 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:08 am

In post 133, Shazam wrote:I feel as if the recent action in this thread is consistent with a scum derailment of conversations about Mario and Foxxx that were actually going somewhere. It's hard to keep track now of exactly where we are in either of those conversations. Mario, don't think you can get away with not answering post 81 after all this nonsense. I won't be posting tomorrow, jsyk guys.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #155 (isolation #35) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 5:25 am

In post 153, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 152, MarioManiac4 wrote:It is always best to have more than one suspect and it's the way it's always done.

Purposefully?

Because it seems like you're missing the point that people are suspicious because you are purposefully trying to direct how everyone should be acting.

how is he purposefully trying to direct how everyone should be acting?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #158 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:52 am

I think you misinterpreted his posts cause I just read them again and he absolutely does not do that.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #160 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:22 am

In post 64, MarioManiac4 wrote:Yes, but 3 votes had already been placed on Implosion. I
think
he should have been trying to find another possible scum at that point.

See the bolded word? This means he's giving his opinion and not telling anyone what they should do.

So now we have that correct.

you find him scummy for giving his opinion of what people should do? Why?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #161 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:24 am

In post 157, Kublai Khan wrote:he was telling people

And people? Petty sure he was talking to 1 person

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #162 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:25 am

Those 2 links just show him giving his opinion which last I checked wasn't scummy

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #164 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:46 am

You didn't say you were, my bad. I just assumed

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #166 (isolation #41) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:01 am

Dont let me stop you from asking questions, if I see you say something that's not true I'm going to call it out again though

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #169 (isolation #42) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:42 am

In post 86, Necessary Evil wrote:MarioManiac4: You didn't answer my question. Why are you voting Implosion and not dragonspawn when dragonspawn was your first real suspicion and you believe there should be fewer votes on Implosion?

Think this one

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #184 (isolation #43) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:22 pm

well he is voting mario so I think we can probably figure out his conclusion don't you?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #195 (isolation #44) » Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:35 pm

v/la tomorrow and possibly the whole weekend

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #404 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:39 am

just getting back from v/la, going to read up on the pages I missed sometime today

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #405 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:00 am

btw you guys seriously made 200 posts while I was gone?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #410 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:56 am

In post 199, FA_Q2 wrote:This is, at this point, the best reasoning out there.

nah it really wasn't that good. certainly not good enough to sheep.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #411 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:18 am

here is me catching up and stuff through page 15. I will do the rest later

Spoiler:

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #412 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:19 am

In post 407, StubbsKVM wrote:Have you seen played with town Woody?

1. have you?
2. would it matter if he had?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #413 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:19 am

my reads right now for scum are khan, shazam, and FaQ

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #418 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:55 am

I don't think i could make a case if I tried, not that it matters cause almost every case I've ever made on this site has basically been ignored.

So I'll just say gut and leave it at that

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #422 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:08 am

I'm not answering that question cause those people aren't on my radar. Doesn't matter if you don't understand how I'm scum reading them, just know that I am.

Ill try to explain each when I get more time. My head needs a break from that reading plus I'm about to get in the car.

1. Yes
2. It doesn't bother me

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #425 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:18 am

How is that anti-town exactly? Cause they post the most I should scum read them? :insert confused George Bush picture:

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #429 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:27 am

In post 423, Shazam wrote:The people who have posted the most with the most content are not on your radar. How very anti-town of you. You won't be able to convince anyone

Deliberate misunderstanding? No that's exactly what you said with this post.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #431 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:07 am

Nope, that train of thought doesnt come from town. That comes from somebody with an agenda.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #432 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:09 am

Your push on mario/Diego also looks bad.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #434 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:16 am

Just cause its really been the only real wagon doesn't make it good. Whats funny is in a round about way you guys have proven Mario's opinion correct. Focusing on 1 person is a bad idea and that's basically what has happened.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #435 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:18 am

Also just cause somebody has a case, doesn't mean it's right. I can make a case on anyone if I put my mind to it

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #441 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:36 am

In post 437, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 435, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Also just cause somebody has a case, doesn't mean it's right. I can make a case on anyone if I put my mind to it

Except it is right. mario's fucking scum. You have no actual reason to say it's a bad case unless you KNOW he is not scum, or maybe even a buddy of yours. You have some hidden info, Woody? It's appearing more and more so.

The only info I have is from reading the thread. The case is and always has been weak. Point me to the best case made and I'll look it over again and see if I agree with it

P.edit - agree with imp.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #444 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:49 am

OK it's not your case. Who made the amazing irrefutable case that proves Mario is scum? Link please

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #447 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:59 am

In post 364, Shazam wrote:Despite the clearly non-serious tone, you think 348 makes me seem worried? About an OMGUS scumread? I

Going back to this.

Yes your reaction to his vote on you was terrible. I also don't like how you immediately discredit his vote as omgus. If you were the only one voting him, maybe you can call it omgus but multiple people were voting him and he picked you for some reason.to call it omgus is actually scummy on your part.

It was too strong of a reaction for just 1 vote

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #452 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:49 am

In post 449, Boonskiies wrote:I think your NE case is fine. I don't think the mario case should be immune to criticism, just not defended to hell. Like god damn. be open fucking minded, people.

the people speaking out about the case trying to get people to focus elsewhere, at least for a little bit, ARE the ones being open minded...

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #456 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:58 am

In post 453, Shazam wrote:No. It is not. What has happened is that a few people picked up on the fact that he was scum, and a few other people put all of their effort into finding other people to look at and defending him. It has never appeared that a large number of players would be willing to lynch Mario/Dom

Get the fuck out of here. The reason people voted him to begin with wasn't enough to condemn anyone as scum.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #458 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:09 pm

In post 453, Shazam wrote:Sentence 1: saying it doesn't make it true.
Sentences 2-3: I was the most vocal member of the wagon. I do not find this to be a coincidence. Do you?
Sentence 4: saying it doesn't make it true.

1. No saying it doesn't make it true, but you denying it doesn't make it false. Typical scum response
2/3. It. You know it actually could just be coincidence right? If you were town I'd expect you to not react so strongly to your top scum read calling you scum
4. See my number 1.

You saying his vote on you was omgus doesn't mean it's true (see how that works?)

You know I'm entitled to my opinion right? My opinion doesn't mean it's true. Somebody disagreeing with my opinion doesn't mean mine is wrong or theirs is right.

Mario was attacked early on for wanting town to focus on more than 1 person. That's something that can easily be twisted into being scummy but the bottom line is that isn't.

I really don't have any interest in defending Mario cause I don't town read him that strongly, but when I see things being said that just aren't true I will call them out. That goes with anybody. That's why I made a point to call out the misconception that he was telling people what to do when he clearly wasn't.

Alao the replacement vote on you could certainly be omgus, but I don't feel it was and there's no real basis other than you saying it is.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #459 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:14 pm

In post 450, Boonskiies wrote:My biggest scum tell from Mario is the reaction it's getting from the rest of the players...like god damn.

Explain why the reactions makes it a scumtell? The case on him is weak so why is speaking out about a weak Lynch a scumtell for him and not the ones speaking out?

I'm the one who was accused of starting an "argument just to argue" or whatever someone accused me of, why am I not scummy or even a scum and read?

Why is shazam one of your scum reads when he claims he's the most vocal pushing Mario?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #466 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:32 pm

In post 461, Shazam wrote:This post is just to let you know that I'm not going to be responding to any of what you say here, because none of it is worth responding to. You don't understand how debate works, and I don't feel like educating you.

1. Real mature
2. I was actually debating you, I know better than anyone how to debate somebody
3. In my experience people hide tail and run like you just did are scum.

vote: shazam

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #469 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:34 pm

In post 462, Boonskiies wrote:I'm not scum reading Shazam, bro. Thanks for proving you aren't reading the thread.

My apologies, pretty sure that is what you were implying with this post

In post 451, Boonskiies wrote:Shazam or Mario should definitely be the lynch toDay, as they have garnered the most reactions, and will help with reads after flips.

If you aren't scum reading him, why would you be saying he should be in today's Lynch pool?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #470 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:35 pm

In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Bulb and woody are making sense. Why would they be confusing?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #471 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:36 pm

In post 468, Boonskiies wrote:I'm flat out against this Shazam lynch now. I wouldn't have defended it before, but this is a counterwagon.

Cool, and I was flat out against a Mario Lynch. But you had an issue with that for some reason...

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #475 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:42 pm

In post 472, Boonskiies wrote:Uhm...you quoted my reasoning...?

Also, you had no reason to flat out be against a Mario lynch at the time. Exactly how I had no reason to be against a Shazam lynch until now.

Yes I did, the case was based on crap. He was being accused of telling people what to do which wasn't the and also that he wanted to focus on more than 1 person which is smart play. I've seen nothing else he's said or done that shows to me he's scum

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #479 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:45 pm

To say you think he should be lynched and than say you aren't scum reading him doesn't add up. If the only other reason is cause its an information Lynch, that also doesnt make sense from a town pov

P.edit - I don't think I am.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #482 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 477, Boonskiies wrote:So you are saying pro-town play is to focus one person only? You are contradicting what you had said earlier.

No he was attacked cause he didn't think town should focus on one person. That's clearly what I was saying.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #483 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:52 pm

In post 473, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 470, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 463, Shazam wrote:
In post 460, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Boon is being confusing.

Boon is the one you're confused by? Really? There are at least two other players more confusing: Bulb and Woody.

Bulb and woody are making sense. Why would they be confusing?

You get that Bulb was full on one of the head people against the mario slot, right?

Yes.and then he moved on and made good points about shazam scum. Shazam's reaction to 1 vote was off and bulba was correct in that. Shazam than tried to play it off like the vote on him was strictly omgus but it wasn't. His only basis is that he was the most vocal member of the wagon, but now you just said bulb was so that actual makes shazam's omgus claim even less accurate than it already was

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #485 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:59 pm

In post 481, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I feel like boon might be flip flopping on shazam town just to spite ww.

Agree with this. I didn't lie or misrep his posts. Boon absolutely said he thought he should be considered for a Lynch today which means he was scum reading on him on some level.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #486 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:02 pm

In post 484, Boonskiies wrote:Seriously, CAN YOU PLEASE READ?!? I

Oh I read. My post 485 still applies. The fact you even tossed his name in the Lynch pool means you are scum reading him on some level.

If you say you aren't than you are saying you don't really care who we Lynch as long as we Lynch somebody. Cause you don't "information" Lynch a town read...

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #489 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 484, Boonskiies wrote:I've hammered my #1 town read in game before as town

If this is true, I'll never play another game with you again. Lynching town reads should never be done.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #490 (isolation #77) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:03 pm

In post 488, Boonskiies wrote:Again, it doesn't. I've hammered my top town reads as town before.

So you are a VI? Got it

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #493 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:07 pm

Ok whatever.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #496 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:11 pm

Lynching town reads is playing against your win condition imo.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #498 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:14 pm

Depends, usually it means mafia was afraid of you but sometimes scum kill people to frame people. You have to look at why you were nk'd

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #506 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:36 pm

In post 505, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 272, Bulbazoor wrote:I am not trying to frame anyone.

Did some one day otherwise?

Did you really just ask him that?

go read post 271 and I think you will find the answer to your own question.

and people accuse me of not reading?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #516 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:22 pm

ok so since this is the hot topic, I wanted to see why exactly people were voting for mario and what they said later to add to the fire.

Vote 1 - NE

Spoiler:

Vote 2 - Bulbazor

Spoiler:

Vote 3: Boon

Spoiler:

Vote 4: Shazam

Spoiler:

5th vote FaQ

Spoiler:

So after looking at the reasons why people are voting mario, boon's reaction to people speaking out against a mario lynch really makes no sense. Only 1 person had a "legitimate" reason for voting mario. I put legitimate in quotes because imo the reason wasn't actually legitimate at all.

Shazam's entire basis of attacking mario was based off what I interpret as a blatant misrep so I am good with my vote. I have also moved NE up the scum list a little, nothing about his push on mario felt genuine.

p.edit - see that is another example of a manipulative post. Shazam has to be scum because no way town is this manipulative

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #518 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:24 pm

In post 514, Shazam wrote:Bulb and Woody have not been using logic and reason.

I actually have been.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #520 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:25 pm

In post 514, Shazam wrote:they haven't really made a case at all

you do realize that a player isn't actually obliged to make a case right?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #524 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:40 pm

In post 515, Shazam wrote:Can I just point out that Dominator's post rate has dropped significantly since fewer people have been voting him? Could it be more painfully obvious that he is more interested in self-preservation than finding scum?

this post is manipulative because you are implying that the only reason why his post rate has dropped is due to less people voting him and ignoring or not even considering other things like real life stuff.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #525 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:42 pm

In post 523, Shazam wrote:Post 81 used the word "admitted".

here is the quote.

In post 81, Shazam wrote:
In post 79, MarioManiac4 wrote:

If everyone agrees on one person, that's a bad sign, as that means mafia are content with the lynch.
We are better off with everyone grilling their scumread, like you are doing with me right now.

So you're admitting that town gains information if we all agree on one person. But you also don't want us to do it.

please bold the part where he admits that town gains info by agreeing on one person.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #527 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:48 pm

In post 523, Shazam wrote:why can't you see that he attempted to change the context of the conversation, waffled, and then left the game because of what I was saying?

1. he did try to change the context of the conversation by trying to get town to spread attention around instead of focusing on 1 person. That's a pro-town move imo.
2. I don't think he waffled at al.
3. We don't know why he left the game. Do you have more info than what is available in the thread? because as far as I can tell he did not provide a reason for replacing out and anything you think is the reason is just pure speculation and you are biased by your scum read.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #529 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:51 pm

In post 528, Shazam wrote:No, I'm implying it is consistent with such behavior we have already seen anyway.

no, please stop.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #533 (isolation #89) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:55 pm

In post 528, Shazam wrote:He can admit it without saying it word for word. When he says "that means mafia are content with the lynch"

you realize the "mafia is content with the lynch" doesn't mean he is saying it is a good idea for town to focus on 1 person. He is using that as a reason to NOT focus on 1 person.

mafia's best gift is a completely town lead mislynch and tha is basically saying he thinks would happen if town focused on 1 person.

he never ever said or implied town was better off focusing on 1 person, so try again.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #542 (isolation #90) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:06 pm

In post 531, Shazam wrote:1. He claimed that he wasn't talking about attention, but rather about literally mislynching someone, which he was not.
2. He did. From post 79 to post 152 he went from "it means mafia are content with the lynch" to "mafia can bus". Blatant reversal of the conclusions he was attempting to draw from the theoretical situation in view.
3. It's true that I don't know for a fact that this is why he left. But it has already been mentioned that this is consistent with scum Mario.

1. I don't really see that as a big deal though. Certainly not enough to lynch somebody over.
2. I don't really see this as waffling because it's the truth. If town all band together and lynches a player and the player flips town, mafia can stay off the wagon to gain town cred. If the person being run up is mafia, mafia can bus for town cred. It's not an either/or type thing like you are making it out to be
3. meta so I will just ignore anything meta. meta is unreliable imo. Plus did you verify it for yourself that he replaces out as scum? did you look at the game(s) to see what the circumstances were? even than I would probably ignore it because meta is bad.

good night

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #546 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:12 pm

In post 543, GrayFoxxxx wrote:I tried to tell him this and more a few pages back

what do you make of his refusal to back down and change his opinion.

also do you think mario's replacement vote on shazam was omgus?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #585 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:23 pm

In post 574, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 570, dragonspawn wrote:
In post 496, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Lynching town reads is playing against your win condition imo.

I disagree that this is always true.

Lol nope, I'm not scum but shocker another person who tries to use ongoing game as a reason, even though I have no clue what you are even referring to.

This post by Woodpecker confirmed ScumPecker for me. Reasons I am not allowed to say.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #586 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:24 pm

Why is my response inside the quote? Smh

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #587 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:26 pm

In post 575, Boonskiies wrote:Basically, a town read lynch that will give information is MUCH better than a no lynch. It is NOT against your wincon unless you are going out of your way to lynch a townie. I seriously don't understand what you were trying to say with that. Why the hell would anyone go out of their way to lynch a town as town? You misrep literally anything and everything I say.

That wasn't what you were saying though, at least not how I interpret it. Sure at deadline is the only exception, but that wasn't what you said.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #588 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:27 pm

In post 580, Boonskiies wrote:Wackpecker has obviously moved scummier. I don't agree with a lot of what he is saying,

You don't agree with the truth? I wonder why?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #590 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:06 pm

Where did I say that? Link please. I said there was no good case on him, even broke down all the votes to prove it. Which I did.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #592 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:11 pm

I'm not scum reading him, and the case was extremely weak. 2 of the votes were for lol meta, 1 was a sheep vote, 1 was based off twisting his words, and the other the player admitted to trying to find reasons to justify his vote.

Where is the good reasons for him? Haven't seen any, certainly not from you

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #593 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:13 pm

I'd actually be OK with a NE lynch actually. I can't fathom why a townie would need to find reasons to justify his vote instead of having reasons already.

Shazam off the hook for now

vote: NE

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #594 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:15 pm

So boon, besides meta, why was Mario scum?

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:30 pm

In post 596, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 394, Boonskiies wrote:But yeah, I feel he's just a new guy rolling scum a lot, and not knowing how to handle the pressure so he just quits.

@Wood - this is a big reason for me.

so meta and replacing out?

GTFOH!!! Never question me about why I am against a wagon you are pushing again if you can't even come up with a single fucking scumtell.

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:34 pm

In post 597, Boonskiies wrote:Also, he votes Implosion, then scum reads people for voting Implosion, yet doesn't unvote, while saying people need to focus on multiple scum reads. He also brings up busing, something I KNOW Mario goes out of his way to do badly. It's a big reason Mario/Implosion are scum reads of mine.

he rvs voted implosion and than voted dragon for what he felt was an opportunistic vote on implosion. That's very different than "he votes implosion and then scum reads people for voting implosion" don't you think?

yes it is completely different.

"he brings up busing"? only in response to a question about lynches where it was relevant

the rest of this post is meta and can be ignored. meta is never a reason to lynch somebody.

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:36 pm

also implosion seems very town to me so how you are even remotely scum reading them is beyond me.

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:45 pm

In post 310, Boonskiies wrote:Anywho, hate to say it, but this is exactly what Mario did last game. He got under a lot of pressure, and was forced to be replaced.

so I decided to look at this pokemon game and this didn't happen like you say it did. SO I am wondering why you would lie about it?

Post 458 - mod posts that mario requests replacement, at this point in time he only has 1 vote on him
Post 501 - mod says that he cancels his request to replace out.
Post 843 - Mod says he is being replaced because he didn't pick up his prod, in this post there was a VC and mario had absolutely no votes on him.

so where was this pressure you speak of? He didn't replace out due to pressure, he was force replaced due to being inactive in the game.

so please explain the discrepancy

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:47 pm

looking at the VC, mario never had more than 2 votes on him so he was never under "a lot of pressue"

so why are you lying?

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:58 pm

In post 604, Boonskiies wrote:Meh, pressure isn't always votes Pecker. Stop being ignorant. Also, he never voted Dragon, so why are you lying?

And anyways, this is why Woodpecker is scum.

"Looking at VC mario never had more than 2 votes on him..."

1. I disagree, pressure is only generated by votes
2. ok my bad, he didn't actually vote dragon but he called out dragon for his vote. That is what I meant and it was me rebutting your "he was scum reading people for voting implosion" which I feel was a distortion of what actually happened

WoodyWoodpecker · Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:59 pm

In post 604, Boonskiies wrote:"Looking at VC mario never had more than 2 votes on him..."

I was talking about THAT GAME not this game...

In post 608, Boonskiies wrote:There's no fucking way you are this stupid. Like really, if you aren't scum, you are probably flat out THE WORST mafia player ever.

Please do not Insult me again.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:01 am

In post 310, Boonskiies wrote:Anywho, hate to say it, but this is exactly what Mario did last game.
He got under a lot of pressure
, and was forced to be replaced.

In post 603, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:looking at the VC, mario never had more than 2 votes on him so he was never under "a lot of pressue"

so why are you lying?

get it now?

I was never talking about this game. I was still talking about that game and how you purposely tried to mislead people in this game

so please explain why did you lie about mario?

vote: boon

town doesn't need to lie, not like that

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:03 am

In post 611, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:Please do not Insult me again.

In post 614, Boonskiies wrote:Stop being stupid and I'll stop insulting.

Mod, can you please issue a warning or punishment or something? I do not appreciate being insulted especially when I asked him to stop doing it. his blatant disregard to my request is unacceptable.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:05 am

In post 616, Boonskiies wrote:HE HAD 5 FUCKING VOTES.

Stop fucking misrepping. You are straight up lying at this point. Mario had fucking 5 votes on him in that game too.

how the fuck did I miss that?

ok fine my bad

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:06 am

In post 618, Boonskiies wrote:I didn't fucking insult you again

yes you did

In post 614, Boonskiies wrote:Stop being stupid

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:06 am

In post 621, Boonskiies wrote:Because you post without fucking reading anything.

I read, I even used my search feature on my phone but for some reason I didn't see that VC

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:09 am

no you are voting a townie

p.edit - please do and than when I die lynch boon, than NS, than shazam and the game will probably be over

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:12 am

In post 628, Boonskiies wrote:You have absolutely no case.

I do, you still lied

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:17 am

In post 625, Boonskiies wrote:He is voting on a case that proved to be false.

it wasn't proved to be false. The only thing that was proved false was that I said he wasn't under pressure when he actually was.

you said, or at least implied he was forced replaced due to the pressure he was under. He was replaced because he went inactive in the game. So that is a lie from you and it's the basis of the "meta" reason you have this game.

Bottom line is you don't know the real reason why he got replaced, all you know is that he went inactive and got replaced because of that. Anything else is pure speculation

p.edit - This post shows where you lied

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:18 am

In post 633, Boonskiies wrote:YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS FUCKING LYING THIS ENTIRE FUCKING GAME.

I haven't lied once. I did make a few mistakes when searching for posts, and acknowledged those but I have never blatantly lied like you did.

saying mario replaced out due to pressure is a bold face lie because he got force replaced due to inactivity. there's a

HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE

between the 2.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:20 am

In post 636, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 600, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:he rvs voted implosion and than voted dragon for what he felt was an opportunistic vote on implosion. That's very different than "he votes implosion and then scum reads people for voting implosion" don't you think?

In post 602, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:so I decided to look at this pokemon game and this didn't happen like you say it did. SO I am wondering why you would lie about it?

Post 458 - mod posts that mario requests replacement, at this point in time he only has 1 vote on him
Post 501 - mod says that he cancels his request to replace out.
Post 843 - Mod says he is being replaced because he didn't pick up his prod, in this post there was a VC and mario had absolutely no votes on him.

so where was this pressure you speak of? He didn't replace out due to pressure, he was force replaced due to being inactive in the game.

In post 603, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:looking at the VC, mario never had more than 2 votes on him so he was never under "a lot of pressue"

so why are you lying?

In post 615, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:get it now?

I was never talking about this game. I was still talking about that game and how you purposely tried to mislead people in this game

so please explain why did you lie about mario?

4 fucking lies on one page alone by Woody.

1. was a mistake where I corrected myself
2. he did get replaced due to inactivity and not pressure so where is the lie in that one?
3. I was talking about the other game and I somehow missed a vc, so a mistake not a lie
4. again, a mistake not a lie

nice try

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:23 am

In post 639, Boonskiies wrote:It isn't a fucking lie and I've fucking stated why so many times, but you are so fucking ignorant and don't fucking read the god damn thread.

HE FUCKING LURKS HIS FUCKING WAY TO BEING REPLACED AND THEN FUCKING JOINS A NEW GAME AFTER. I'VE FUCKING STATED THIS LIKE 4 FUCKING TIMES. READ THE GOD DAMN THREAD.

so in your opinion he replaced out to pressure but you don't know this for a fact.

got it.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:25 am

In post 645, Boonskiies wrote:Even if somehow that wasn't how it happened, it isn't a fucking lie because I fucking believe that is what is happening.

opinion =/= fact

and I have pm'd the mod about you continuing to insult me.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:28 am

anything questioning me or my intelligence is an insult.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:37 am

In post 652, Boonskiies wrote:You're whole gameplay this game has been: "I'm right; everyone else is wrong. "

yes that is pretty much me in a nutshell.

The rest of that quote is wrong though. I am town and am only pushing my scum reads.

thanks for playing, sorry you don't get any consolation prizes.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:39 am

In post 653, Boonskiies wrote:WangPecker: "Oh yeah, and I have no actual cases on anyone...BUT EVERYONE SHOULD SHEEP ME. DERPA DERPA DERRRRRR."

where did I say anyone should sheep me?

also please stop calling me wackpecker, wangpecker, or any other variation of my name related to a penis. thank you

call me by my actual user name or an abbreviation like WW

thank you

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:41 am

Woody Woodpecker is a cartoon character

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:47 am

whatever, I have asked you to stop so please respect my request

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:48 am

In post 322, Boonskiies wrote:Eh, Wackpecker and I have an on-going grudge

also if you want another example of a lie. This one is.

you and I have no ongoing grudges, at least none that I am aware of.

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:58 am

I think you getting pissed off is a personality trait of yours, it's one that I don't find beneficial so this will probably be the last game we play with each other. People who get pissed off just for the sake of getting pissed off ruin the fun in the game and that's exactly what you have done.

so please lead town to lynch me because I don't really want to play with you anymore but I am not going to replace out. So one of us need to be lynched today for the sake of the game state. If we both remain this game is going to go downhill fast.

p.edit - I lean town on bulbazor, although I do not like his original push on mario. It was basically "meta" but I don't feel he did enough to convince anyone he even knew mario's meta. But than again boon is the same way. Boon using meta from 1 game thinking he is now some sort of expert in mario meta....

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #671 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:10 am

In post 669, Boonskiies wrote:People like you do this on purpose to get a reaction like this, or else you wouldn't keep egging it on.

done what exactly? try to lynch my scum reads?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #674 (isolation #127) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:12 am

In post 670, Boonskiies wrote:@Dom - I scum read the players who were pushing him, so it made me feel it was a scum-lead wagon.

isn't that basically chainsaw defense?

attacking the people attacking shazam?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #676 (isolation #128) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:14 am

In post 673, Boonskiies wrote:
In post 671, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 669, Boonskiies wrote:People like you do this on purpose to get a reaction like this, or else you wouldn't keep egging it on.

done what exactly? try to lynch my scum reads?

Meh, there it is again. You know exactly what the fuck you are doing.

yes, I am trying to lynch my scum reads.

but let's move away from this back and forth cause it is only going to carry on for pages and pages and nobody wants to see that. You think I am scum and I think you are scum. DONE...

can you please give me your opinion of NE?

Also what do you think about NE saying that he was looking for reasons to justify his vote instead of already having reasons for why he was voting?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #678 (isolation #129) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:15 am

you will also hammer top town reads as said previously by you. so basically you will hammer anyone

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #683 (isolation #130) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:21 am

In post 679, Boonskiies wrote:NE has definitely moved down a bit on my list. I did like Implosion's case. And I always say scum usually has to fabricate reasons for voting someone more than town.

Also, what's wrong with chainsaw defence? I scum read people, I think that they'll target town? It's Day 1, what do you want from me?

what's wrong with it is you are immediately discrediting people all because they share a different opinion than you which isn't town motivated.

it basically gives you an excuse to ignore a potentially good case made by somebody based solely on the fact that you are town reading the person the case is on. That's bad play

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #688 (isolation #131) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:26 am

In post 684, Shazam wrote:@ Woodpecker
Still waiting for your thoughts on this specific part of Bulb's play.

i'm confused. can you point me to the actual lie? reading your description doesn't really process well for some reason

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #691 (isolation #132) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:35 am

ok I do agree that was weird. bulb could not have been talking about gray

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #692 (isolation #133) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:37 am

If I could somehow convince myself that shazam was town (which I am not able to do right now) than the points that bulb made earlier about shazam aren't that good and than that leaves me back to his original push on mario for "meta" but I don't feel like he has a good grasp of mario's meta. I don't think boon did either but at least boon was better able to articulate what about his meta, bulba didn't do as good imo

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #695 (isolation #134) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:10 am

vote: bulb

happy? I don't really give a fuck at this point. I will just assume I was wrong about you, you are actually playing how I play so I will do what I wish people would do for me. I will let you have your lynch.

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #704 (isolation #135) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:17 am

How was bulb in that game?

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #705 (isolation #136) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:18 am

In post 702, Sméagol wrote:
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And damn mod, that's a lot of work for colorful posts lol

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #707 (isolation #137) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:21 am

See I saw useless bulb as scum. At least he mixes it up

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #717 (isolation #138) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:36 am

on this site? not yet

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:07 am

Yet there are people who think cases are anti-town. 1 player even has a thing under his name that says "cases are scummy" and doing some digging there is an old thread in Mafia discussion that talks about cases being anti-town or not.

So yeah...

You can state reasons why somebody is scum and not actually make a "case" on them btw.

Sometimes somebody is scummy and you can't really put it into words why, that's called a gut feeling.

There's more than 1 way to play this game. Just saying...

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:12 am

In post 724, FA_Q2 wrote:Woodpecker has been arguing game theory and soft defending Mario the entire time without any real cases to be had anywhere. He attacks legitimate cases and misrepresents things that have been said (such as my vote on Mario that was a complete and total misrep in its entirety).

1. No not really been arguing theory, just arguing things that relate to the game
2. Yes I soft defended Mario cause the case on him was shit, and it still is shit
3. I've given reasons for my votes/reads and the are very logical, I don't need to make a full blown case, nobody does.
3a. If we are being nit picky, you haven't really made a "case" on anyone imo. Just provided reasons, and false ones at that
4. The Mario case wasn't legitimate, none of those votes contained solid reasons. Try again
5. I did not misrep your vote at all. What I said was the truth

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:33 am

I want to know how my town flip garners useful information

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:19 pm

In post 744, implosion wrote:
FA wrote:I swear that no one here seems to even understand the term 'sheep.'

Imp didn't sheep

FA did

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:23 pm

Idk imp, jusy agreeing with somebody is sheeping, but that's not what I saw you do. You added more commentary to your post and explained yourself better

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:46 pm

In post 769, Annarchy wrote:like seriously what the fuck. there is no consistency in anything Boon says

Meh, scum are more likely to be concerned about consistency

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:47 pm

In post 773, Boonskiies wrote:@Anarcchy - I'm unsure where my inconsistency is..

You are consistent, consistently town reading people who call you town and scum reading people who don't...

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:55 pm

In post 781, Boonskiies wrote:Haha...yeah...I suck Day 1's....I'm easy mislynch bait. I step it up later, though, I promise! Ask pisskop! I've played with him a lot, haha.

You and me both, unless game has a night 0, than I'm awesome...

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:02 pm

In post 796, Boonskiies wrote:Also this

What these links bring us to is that Mario /in'd for a new game 3 days after being replaced here. The link in this post shows him posting elsewhere DURING the time he was absent in this thread, INCLUDING the day of his replacement and days right previous. He was purposely avoiding.

So you want to policy Lynch him for joining games and avoiding this one?

WoodyWoodpecker · Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:46 pm

I just don't want to waste a lynch on somebody for doing things anti-town. Sure he could be scum replacing out due to pressure like you said but maybe he just doesn't like pressure in general. I hate to rely on using replacement as a reason to lynch somebody. Though I did have a game where somebody replaced out and I took it as a town tell and he ended up being scum so there is that. I just don't like using replacement as a reason

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #809 (isolation #149) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:39 am

not gonna lie, kk not being active is really messing with me

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #813 (isolation #150) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:58 am

That was helpful /s

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #815 (isolation #151) » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:54 am

Your list

WoodyWoodpecker · Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:03 am

In post 821, Boonskiies wrote:Every game of mine is 180 from the last.

So than every other game is the same?

WoodyWoodpecker · Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:03 am

In post 826, TheDominator37 wrote:Stop cussing O_O

WoodyWoodpecker · Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:27 am

In post 830, Boonskiies wrote:I just want Day 1 to be over; I hate Day 1.

Me too

Just go ahead and Lynch me, I'm over this game anyway

WoodyWoodpecker · Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:32 pm

In post 850, FA_Q2 wrote:BECAUSE IT DERAILS THE ENTIRE TOPIC AND DOES NOT ALLOW SCUM HUNTING WHATSOEVER.

But that doesn't make it scummy, just annoying/frustrating

The arguments that have happened in this game happened while scum hunting and people defending their arguments. Nothing scummy about that. To say there is, is anti town

vote Mr. Anti town FAQ

You are scum looking to divide and conquer. Mislynch one Townie today, than Lynch the other under the guise of "one of these guys must be scum" when in fact the odds are pretty good boon Is probably town andvi know I am

WoodyWoodpecker · Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:59 pm

Nah just vote FAQ, he's scum

WoodyWoodpecker · Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:41 pm

In post 882, implosion wrote:This is pretty much what I have to say in response to FA. Scum aren't going to go out of their way to attack a person for three pages for the express purpose of making the game less readable. Those kinds of arguments arise from personality conflicts which are alignment-independent.

I'm also pretty ready for this day to be over. I feel like I've gotten what I want out of it and it's starting to drag on.

I was already scum reading him before that though, I realize the bitching is null cause town and scum can do it but it seems likely like he's trying to line up lymches

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #904 (isolation #158) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:50 am

I'm so confused

WoodyWoodpecker · Post Post #947 (isolation #159) » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:31 pm

just a heads up going to be pretty inactive tomorrow but should be here for sunday. I'll try to check in from my phone if i'm able to.

WoodyWoodpecker · Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:20 am

thanks for modding. Sorry I had to be replaced.