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In post 67, Thor665 wrote:In post 64, Thor665 wrote:You asked me to clarify if I town read someone after I stated I town read them.
Then you get miffed that I'm asking you to explain something that can't be made any simplier.
But if *I* got miffed at you it was scummy.
Hypocrisy?
This feels like hypocrisy.
How is it not?
Lack of scumhunting and voting someone I thought was town - though not in that order.
Why do you lean town on him?
I see someone trying to understand your point and I see his frustrations about your town read. I can see why he thought it was quick and questionable.
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In post 85, Concrete Angels wrote:Thor didn't even explain his read on davsto before she tried to turn everything he said into something scummy. In the end, he came out looking way more town than she did.
In my mind, if you really trust another player's skill to read a person better than yourself enough to sheep them, wouldn't you want to find out what they are seeing? She hasn't interacted with him at all. Instead, she's commented peripherally about how he's town and that's why she's sheeping him.
There's zero concern from her about Thor's stance or alignment at all. That's pretty incongruent.
This was how I was feeling when I read it.
In post 91, Concrete Angels wrote:In post 89, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:In post 85, Concrete Angels wrote:There's zero concern from her about Thor's stance or alignment at all. That's pretty incongruent.
Do you usually have concerns on people you're townreading?
On page 1 or 2.... uh... yes. First of all, at the time you "sheeped", there was no reason to be townreading Thor. It was clearly an arbitrary selection. Secondly, are you so sure about your townread on him that you would not question it at all and follow him blindly?
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In post 95, Thor665 wrote:In post 69, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:Considering he asked you why you think they are town, have you considered that maybe he doesn't think they're town?
That has no bearing in any way, shape, or form to my read.
Of course he either does, or will claim, to not town read them - it doesn't matter.
In post 76, farside22 wrote:I see someone trying to understand your point and I see his frustrations about your town read. I can see why he thought it was quick and questionable.
You do?
The only reason he tried to understand me was I pointed out that he was unevenly applying an issue to Sakura and not to me or himself. It was only then that he seemed to give a hang for understanding me, and I don't really get frustration from him either.
I can agree it could be read a squick and questionable - would have felt better if that had been his first read though...also, not really buying into caring about a quick and questionable town read on Day 1.
Can you back up this thought of yours?
It feels very weak.
In post 76, farside22 wrote:What do you think of haca following you?
That it is in line with my general expectations of her - does it seem out of line for her play in your opinion?
In post 88, Concrete Angels wrote:I am townreading Thor.
Why?
Your only reason to seems to be based off a scum read of Sakura.
Most people find my reason's weak. You won't be the first and sure as shit won't be the last.
Why were you town reading a spot on page one?
Can you say they were strong?
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In post 106, Wingback wrote:Concrete Angels, Thor665, Davsto, and Farside22 are townreads.
Null on Concrete currently but I agree with Thor and Dav
In post 114, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:Hey farside, what's up?
Hey not sakura
I'm looking for some unfiltered thoughts from both of you too.
Not just defending but your stands so far.
In post 115, pistachi0n wrote:In post 112, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:In post 88, Concrete Angels wrote:I am townreading Thor.
p-edit: re: cat's post - "weirdly aggressive". Exactly.
Also please don't do the sqwauk thing. It gives me horrible flashbacks of Dark Age.
SQUAWK
This was a bad post. I know it's technically not game related but it's like you're trying to convey an "i don't give a fuck" attitude.
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concrete is a town read
In post 133, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:I played with him in Disney. He dicked around but that was after farside called him conftown when he really wasn't and even then this feels much more over the top than there.
In post 160, Davsto wrote:In post 157, pistachi0n wrote:VOTE: Hecatia
Most of her posts at first are filler that makes them seem like they're trying to do something, like 78.
Like there are a lot of posts but nothing good until 2/3 into the iso.
Sheeps votes on Vedith.
Not liking this.
Hopping on an easier bandwagon with little reasoning.
meh
In post 161, Vedith wrote:In post 149, Concrete Angels wrote:..... you've been consistently posting elsewhere.
So... yeah. I'm very happy with my vote now.
I'm not sure I have posted properly on here any Friday evening and hardly ever on a Saturday.
You obviously looked into my games, and yet you haven't even read what I've posted in them.
You claim I posted here Thursday, when the time I posted here first was on Friday morning while at work, where I then had small amount of activity in the day on a select amount of threads threads (Average of about 2/3 posts a thread).
So I suggest if you are going to use this as an excuse, 1 - You learn my time zone and 2 - you actually learn my activity patterns.
For the rest who say that this is a valid argument, explain how and explain your scum read further.
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@thor; I meant sutle not stubble.
Don't ask
I'm not sure what your looking for, I'm betting you will disagree but I'll quote what I saw from Dave in my next post.
I'm betting the cat post was bella.
Lying cat was probably jingle.
I laughed at over justification comment.
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The quotes below is what I was referring to.
He is trying to explain and ask and thor doesn't respond other then to perry a point against Dav elaborates the reason.
Do I find the reason weak.
Yes.
Is it scummy
No
In post 50, Davsto wrote:You have a townread on someone who has made only 7 posts? Elaborate.
In post 52, Davsto wrote:In post 51, Thor665 wrote:In post 50, Davsto wrote:You have a townread on someone who has made only 7 posts? Elaborate.
Don't you have a scumlean on someone who also has 7 posts (and had less when you stated scum lean)?
Also, I've stated a town lean on a player with one post.
Not a scum lean, they've just done one thing I'm not a fan of.
Also, you explained that, didn't you? At the end of 37
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In post 183, Cataphant wrote:far whats wrong with overjustification thing about pistachio? :\
Ohhhh sorry I misunderstood your post.
Dav: there is more then just people attacking you to discuss.
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In post 181, Lying Cat wrote:In post 177, Cataphant wrote:oh. Farside? This just looks like town farside to me!
Why?
Why have you only asked only cat about their read on me?
In post 187, pistachi0n wrote:In post 185, Wingback wrote:
Explain to me why scum are more likely than town to post "squawk" in response to being asked not to do it.In post 115, pistachi0n wrote:This was a bad post. I know it's technically not game related but it's like you're trying to convey an "i don't give a fuck" attitude.
I'm not voting Hecatia because they said squawk, that was just something I noticed. The general tone of the interaction made it seem like Hecatia was trying to project overconfidence.
And???
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In post 197, Davsto wrote:In post 196, farside22 wrote:While I'm thinking I somewhat wonder if we should claim characters. I have a theory and I wonder if I'm out guessing the mod or not.
I'm against this idea.
It doesn't help clear anyone to town because rolenames are insignificant to alignments, but it gives scum a decent guess at what people's roles are. I fail to see this benefiting town.
I have a reason, but I don't know if I said too much.
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I'm lost reading thor's post 199
Feeling meh about verideth
Concrete I don't get why you are confused.
This is what thor and I were talking about.
Most people find my reason's weak. You won't be the first and sure as shit won't be the last.
Why were you town reading a spot on page one?
Can you say they were strong?
I just do what I feel when I read things, maybe I should stop that but I see scum stubble more when pushed then town.
How does stumble make sense at all?
I like verideth thought process for 210
Noting massive just talking about heca in the game.
Anka: why do you think there is scum on verideth wagin?
In post 229, Ankamius wrote:No, the wagon was town driven. It was scum-sheeped.
In post 236, pistachi0n wrote:Farside you are making me suspicious.
Asking for name claims and justifying it with vague "I have a reason"
That's nice
Im leaning town on heca currently.
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In post 442, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:Farside-
We have a sticky wagon that is on town but the people who aren't on it seem to have no issue with it other htan LC (which I admittedly didn't really notice if he had an issue or not).
There are a ton of lurkers and non-entities which probably means there will be a deadline scramble for a lynch.
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@lying cat: I have agreed with people before and still feel null about them. 1 or 2 good post mean nothing to me.
@heca: I recall a pretty strong town read with dav, can you quote where he voted you or link what it is that bothers you?
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I don't remember.
I'll be blunt I'm going to have to reread from the start but when i get to this it should ring a bell where my thought were.
In post 405, Thor665 wrote:In post 384, farside22 wrote:I'm lost reading thor's post 199
That is an utter Bullsmurf rejoinder - 199 is pretty damn clear and is asking you for your take on the situation.
If it *does* confuse you then ruddy point out where and how and I'll clarify.
And even if it does - it shouldn't prevent you from responding with your own take on what was going down.
This is scummy as HELL so back up, and talk to me, dodge again with a weak wimp reason like the above and I will happily death tunnel you till I secure your lynch.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7256418
Here's a link to my "confusing" post for everyone else to note.
Yeah...real confusing and crazy worded, psycho babble language in that post...
In post 386, Concrete Angels wrote:In post 382, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I have no issue with your questioning; just the path it was going. the rephrasing is fine I think.
whoops. mine.
Nah - you called me out on questioning for the sake of questioning. That's a call on the method, not the path of talking about ongoing games.
You lying to my face?
In post 395, Concrete Angels wrote:No [specific game lurking is not part of Vedith's town meta]
Then I am left dumbfounded on your issue with the wagon as it stands, and find your defense of him weak and meaningless to my scum case on him.
In post 399, Lying Cat wrote:Ignoring the fact that I've got a nice shiny wagon for one here and I'm looking forward to keeping the seat warm, who do you want me to vote?
Someone you find scummy, preferably with at least one other person agreeing with you.
In post 399, Lying Cat wrote:I'm already scumhunting elsewhere.
You are?
In post 399, Lying Cat wrote: And besides, there's more than one way to skin a horse.
Yes, the right way and the wrong way.
You and I both know your vote on me is a piddle pile of useless and you're not even backing it up - I'm asking you to defend that chosen course, don't hand me pablum in exchange.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 768, Wingback wrote:Welcome Nachomamma8! Please catch up quickly and offer your thoughts on people other than the mod.
Farside22, welcome back! Please address my case(s) against you. For a quick lookup, just ISO me and Ctrl+F Farside and address whatever I've written there.
I'm going to be reading the game from the beginning. I only have vague recollections in regards to some reads.
I recall heca, verdith and dav all being town reads. I recall pist and massive as scum reads.
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Rereading and I have to say I like Concrete Angel from the start.
In post 27, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:I have a wild guess as to why, but i'll let him answer, I do have a slight townlean on Thor however i'll sheep
Vote: Davsto
~Sakura
why?
Thor post 30 is just attacking back for the sake of attacking in my view.
I also think the semantics about 3 or 4 or 5 votes against dav was pretty weak comment.
this!!! You can stay in my town pile.
Thor this was the post again that I felt was a weak attack against dav it was also now that I caught up there where I found dav confused by your response.
Part of the discussion also is what drives me a little skeptical of Thor when he won't explain his town read when asked but complains about others town reads.
I also know that is part of my hate of hypocrites though.
not a fan of this the vote is from a hydra for one and for another some players forget there votes.
That is not even in the same fucking realm
I just felts in reread Dav was confused more then anything. I also realize the long post I was trying to explain a town read was about Concrete and not dav.
That's embarrassing.
Note: keep and eye on anka to see if he follows up with his questions. Also I need to try to find time to research Anak's meta.
In post 84, Davsto wrote:In post 78, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:In post 74, Concrete Angels wrote:I'm honestly just waiting to get with MS because he has more experience with her and notscience.
Although i'd like to think you're town for this, i don't see why scum you wouldn't want to just aggro on me, and instead decided to consult with your other head who has more experience with the more recent me.
~Sakura
This post seems off. It starts off with an "although", implying that there is going to be a negative counter to the good point, but there isn't one.
It comes across that Sakura originally wanted to make a negative point but then realised she couldn't, so she just made it a positive point and forgot to edit out the remnants.
Bahwahahahahahaha
You crazy.
In post 88, Concrete Angels wrote:I am townreading Thor.
p-edit: re: cat's post - "weirdly aggressive". Exactly.
Also please don't do the sqwauk thing. It gives me horrible flashbacks of Dark Age.
Was this because of your scum read on Heca? Or something more? Ah, never mind you liked his questions towards you.
Just ignore this.
thor: Why didn't you ask Heca about her town read on you?
Pist Why did you not say anything about Thor's post towards dav if this is true?
mmmm I like Thor's back and forth with Heca to take Thor off my scum list and move to null.
Lying cat why did you vote for Thor?
As I read though I realize Dav post less when the pressure is off, something to keep an eye on.
not really
In post 163, Lying Cat wrote:My hydra partner blows at bookmarking things. Everyone point at him and call him names.
Also, Thor has not done anything alignment indicative yet, so I'm more than happy to let sthar8 ply the vote there for now.
Sakura is definitely worth the suspicion, which makes me like cat. The shift onto ved does not.
ETL has shown the minor towntells I'd expect from town her this early, but not enough to make that read solid.
Davsto can be put to fire. I'd pay to see that.
This is all pretty vague.
Thor wrote:
Also - could you address my question to you about Hepasljdaso's playstyle? You seem to have dropped that, unless the last line is about it.
The last game I played with Sakura was the disney game. He was in a hydra and he had diarrhea of the mouth and people were scum reading him and I stepped in and said it was normal. Turned out he was scum that game. So meta and hydra with sakura is pretty null in my book.
What does scum Farside look like? If you haven't seen her as scum, what would you imagine she looks like?
That is what I imagine.
not a fan of massive's vote or first post here
Very little info about players in the game.
Dav Why did you wait to vote for Heca?
Stopped on page 10.
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In post 227, Ankamius wrote:UNVOTE: Davsto
VOTE: Cataphant
Most likely the scum on the Vedith wagon. It's Thor if not him.
How did you reach this conclusion?
In post 229, Ankamius wrote:No, the wagon was town driven. It was scum-sheeped.
What is your read on vedith?
I agree with this
In post 236, pistachi0n wrote:Farside you are making me suspicious.
Asking for name claims and justifying it with vague "I have a reason"
Why?
yeah I may actually lean town on anka. Not married to it but feeling it.
Leaning town with verdith so far.
I like this attack from wing
Don't like Bulge entrance.
meh
I feel a slight vomit in my mouth at the vote from Heca to CA.
I feel like pist is just posting comment for the sake of posting (gut), plus added I'm not seeing her talk about her scum reads.
And any town feeling I had on Dav is pretty much gone with his useless post popping up with nothing new to add.
In post 369, Thor665 wrote:I am moving Pistach to a town read.
Dav remains a scum read.
So does Vedith.
Concrete is trying to become one, trying very hard.
Why is Pist a town read?
In post 372, Davsto wrote:In post 368, pistachi0n wrote:What do you think about Vedith and Concrete Angels?
Quoting this so that I remember to come around to it when I give the game a proper read through. Kinda been neglecting this one a tad sorry.
Yeah I totally believe the catch up and nothing to add post.
In post 385, massive wrote:What, was me saying "farside town (gut)" not good enough for you?
Because kissing my ass does nothing for me.
this is accurate about me.
Tell me why massive is a town read.
In post 394, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:Farside what are your thoughts about massive?
Leaning scum.
Last time he was cute with me I bought into it and he was scum that game.
Mostly because I can see more thought process coming from the pair about their reads then most others.....like you for example.
I really don't see LC pushing a case or a wagon on the player they are scum reading
yeah I tend to be more aggressive as scum because I am aggressive as town to a certain extent. There is a difference but I'm not sharing how to tell.LC wrote:Farside, would you agree with Cat's meta there? Anyone else who knows Farside well?
meh
In post 409, pistachi0n wrote:I'm starting to scum-read farside, I think she's being dodgier and less strong than usual.
That's nice. It was called RL issues and lack on concentration.
In post 413, Davsto wrote:Meh.
Read through. Kinda finding it hard to get reads at the moment, sorry. Still liking the Hecatia vote but barely.
I mean, I'm usually pretty mediocre at this but I've usually caughtsomethinghalf-decent at this point. Considering a full from-start read through tomorrow because it's Saturday then~
Hi I'm going to keep calling Heca scum while doing nothing else in the game.
DIE.
Sorry I feel my mind drifting but Im currently at page 18 right now.
So far scum reads are:
Dav
Pist
Leaning scum:
massive
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In post 772, Davsto wrote:Probably because before that I didn't feel the need to vote before. The post I voted in would have been just after I got home from school so my mindset was probably different.
Last I checked you were scum reading the pair soooooooooo it seems you were just not voting and then saw others vote and joined it.
Reads pretty weak.
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In post 911, Wingback wrote:, why were you reading Thor as town in your Post 168? You list a bunch of problems you have with his early posts in your Post 771 but all of these incidents happened before you originally called him town.Farside
,Lying CatandMassive, can you post a list of your reads please? I'd also like both (Lying Cat, Thor) of your thoughts on Farside's catch up posts.Thor
, please address my Post 751.Pistachi0n
In post 834, Hecatia Lapislazuli wrote:You know what, fuck it, come
lynch me i don't care anymore,it'll be fun to see your facefor mislynching Town Sakura, when you've never done that mistake before.
This reads like you are townreading Nacho. But you aren't based on your other posts. Explain.
In post 785, Nachomamma8 wrote:@Lying Cat: Your argument that farside agreed with ETL twice and thus should be town reading ETL is a weak one.
I've made this same argument. Why didn't you ask me about it?
In post 879, Davsto wrote:PEdit: How about Concrete's case on Pistach which I literally mentioned in that goddamn post?
As far as I know, I'm the only one who's made a "case" on Pistachi0n. What is this "case" you are talking about? Quote it.
In post 886, Thor665 wrote:
That comes from my belief that players tend to scumread people who scumread them.
I view this as weak, juvenile play. If a player is unable to see town motivation in attacks on them, they have a long way to go to improve as a player.
In post 904, Nachomamma8 wrote:It seems like most people in this thread are townreading Vedith based on his attack on Ank.
Not me. There's something else besides his attack on Ank that is a ridiculously strong towntell.
Despite wanting elaboration on his thought processes, I'm reading Nacho as town. The pool of non-townreads I want more content from are: Pistachi0n, Massive, Lying Cat, Thor, and Cataphant. I'm going to go with Massive just because how absurdly underwhelmed I'm getting based on the lack of content. Pistachi0n is at least being batshit crazy by continuing to insist that Davsto is scum.
VOTE: Massive
I just recall his post towards others were trying to figure things out. His initial agression rubbed me wrong but he seemed to be more probing and oppionated as the game went on.
I noticed when I was reading the most current post dav claimed??
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sigh
cries
sigh again
Pumps self up to read.
anak is probably town. He reads pretty much what I know of him (no I'm not sharing meta tells this game)
one vote is one vote this is really a nonsense argument to have.
this is only just weak points
We have a winner! Wasn't ducking you Thor I just tried reading from where I was on that page because of time issues.
I agree with you about LC.
FYI he plays this way all the time now That is not the way to figure out Anka's alignment.
I swear you avoided the wagon too Someone remind me didn't Pist not vote Verdith? If not what's the fucking point of calling anka out for it?
I'm totally not voting heca this game.
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Sure you can. It still raised an eyebrow, and was still worth noting. Would you mind telling me why you thought Thor and Dav were town?
@farside: Is Cataphants assertion that they can meta read you true or false?
My catch up clearly put my thoughts in play. Both Bella and Hippy have played with me in a scum team and when we are both town. I think Bella would know me better then Hippy to be fair.
Hippy still gets it wrong.
In post 528, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:something hinky with that ank flashwagon.
I endorse this product and/or service.
Im totally not voting CA this game.
In post 541, Thor665 wrote:@Lying Cat - good plan, double down on the useless and try to pass it off as strategy.
@Pistach - how has a edits wagon been a thing in the last 72 hours? I don't think it has been a thing since about 24 after it first appeared, and why is this reaction about it only showing up now?
I am fascinated that people thing the least openly explained vote on Ank - and one that existed prior to a wagon rush - is the scum midst somehow. I look forward to this case being explored deeper. You all, clearly, have me dead to rights.
Why are you not pressure LC with a vote?
meh, sounds butt hurt
wingpost 556
I'll taking making up theories for 100 Alex
That's just dumb.
I'm sorry but not just no, fuck no.
In my opinion when Heca was getting attacked all I reads was defensiveness from the post. That doesn't help me figure out them as players so I asked mostly because it seemed like the same discussion going on over and over at the time.
I sometime tunnel. I'm working on that. I tend to be stubborn but in response to your links I admitted already my head hasn't been in the game. I'm fixing that.
in regards to this
I make bad cases. Most people ignore my post so when someone says something about how I feel I pretty much just say this these days. Mostly when I'm behind.
Also im not sure how long you have played mafia. So this is in no way meaning to be snarky.
Is your experience in scum hunting typically associative?
In post 599, Ankamius wrote:I don't see how your response debunks what he said at all.
Wins!
Break time.
Computer is acting weird
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In post 1049, Concrete Angels wrote:Are you null on the others?
Leaning town
Anka
Thor
Wing
I read dav was a pr but I haven't got there.
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In post 1173, Cataphant wrote:logical reasoning from sakura?
From what I understood it's not confirmed town.
We know he was targetted.
But Sakura said if he shot night 1 he maybe still guilty.
Maybe I misunderstood the role??
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In post 1176, Vedith wrote:So out of my scum reads of Cataphant, Pistachio and Ank two are voting for the others.
Yeah I can see a bussing technique going on here.
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In post 1178, Davsto wrote:If I were to make an assumption on who scum was if they chose a Wingback kill for suspect reasons, I'd lean Cataphant or Concrete Angels.
No way do I see CA as scum. I was pretty null with cats. I like bella when she isn't in a hydra and I can't read hippy he gets so lazy sometimes.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 1179, Vedith wrote:Because of his day 1. I still don't like the way he just tried to buddy around and agree any where. Most people seem to have ignored that part though.
I don't remember seeing that. I see him agreeing with others which is null.
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In post 1182, Davsto wrote:Reason I'd assume those two going by the nightkill target is this...
In post 1152, Wingback wrote:In post 1143, Concrete Angels wrote:Absolutely not. You need a lesson in reading comprehension. I asked you questions aimed at getting you to support your arguments. No where did I say they did or didn't do anything, nor did I say that I thought they did.
The way you phrased your questions looked like you were asking me to prove a negative.
In post 1145, Concrete Angels wrote:This is also an error on your part - why are you unable to understand what I said there?
You said that whether or not I agree with their read on me was irrelevant. That wasn't my point. I said that their read of me looked fake.
In post 1147, Concrete Angels wrote:Let me rephrase - You said they had no reads, then said they had a read. You saying they are right or wrong - that is irrelevant to the fact that the read exists, which was what I was getting at. You made a statement, I asked you to support it, and when you didn't do so satisfactorily, I asked you to explain further.
What I said was that they had no strong reads elsewhere besides Thor and they spent 90% of their time tunneling Thor instead of developing reads elsewhere. When asked for a readslist, they listed out a bunch of reads of which I felt that their read on me looked fake.
In post 1149, Jingle wrote:Not logging across, anti can deal with it. Go over wing and Thor with a fine toothed comb. Sakura's result tonight is trustworthy. JK, aim for scum. If you hit the ninja you're golden.
Not super disappointed about being the lynch, tbh. It was gonna be a struggle to keep my head in the game and I'm probably taking a break from mafia for a while, so...
And there's a clear reason I didnt full claim. I didn't want the scum to know who was the most valuable no target. Confirmable in less than 1 phase should be enough
Okay, so I was wrong on Lying Cat.Cataphant is almost certainly scum. After that, I'd look at ETL.
I got where you were coming from. I'm a type that doesn't always look at what people say when they are killed.
There is so much WIFOM and I have been framed by it in the past.
However, I've just realised it could have been for his claim. I'm just gonna come out of my pitiful attempt at NKA with a null result. Worth a try.
In post 1183, Vedith wrote:In post 1181, farside22 wrote:I don't remember seeing that. I see him agreeing with others which is null.
Where did he buddy?
In the early game. When he started to defend me with nothing to go on.
I mean, I've made a few posts over him in day 1.
What's your views on his votes, and his follow up on those votes?
That isn't buddying. If you looked he was talking about the case on you. He thought it was crap (basically) because all it was based on was you not posting in the game.
I find his votes were pretty fluid. I don't know if Anka recalls us playing scum together but I recall he tends to hold his votes more on one player as scum and tunnel.
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My comment to Dav is in his post.
I state:
far wrote:I got where you were coming from. I'm a type that doesn't always look at what people say when they are killed.
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In post 1186, Ankamius wrote:In post 1184, farside22 wrote:I don't know if Anka recalls us playing scum together
Wait, what? Were you on an alt?
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In post 1270, Vedith wrote:In post 1241, Concrete Angels wrote:Nacho is very good and has snowed me in the past. I didn't like his initial posting when he first started responding and my previous analysis led me to think that his slot was scum. His later posting looked much better, but again, he's good at that, so I don't want to "clear" him on that alone. He's definitely in the suspect pool.
The thing with Thor is that he looks like he's doing his town things, but I'm not really satisfied with a lot of it. I feel like he keeps pushing me off and avoiding answering questions or discussing things, which isn't something I've experienced with him when he was town. It really bothers me. My gut says he's town but my brain is going whoa hey now.
Have you played with Thor as scum? I just get the impression that he's not caring over the game so much...
And up to this post, I really think that Nacho is strong town. I like his approach to people and I actually really liked his initial posting, he was focused and thorough.
You need to explain that Nacho town read to me. I don't see it.
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In post 1280, massive wrote:In post 1273, farside22 wrote:You need to explain that Nacho town read to me. I don't see it.
Troll or not, play or not it is all null with him
Have you never played a game with Nacho where you felt comfortable with his alignment one way or the other? Aside from knowing it as scum, of course.
Rarely.
That says a lot.
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In post 1291, Concrete Angels wrote:it's already obvious there is bussing going on here somewhere. if pist is scum so is cat.
Nacho is being really quiet about this and that is where I'm still leaning on as far as bussing goes.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 1293, massive wrote:In post 1281, pistachi0n wrote:Have you? Is it easy to tell?
That's an interesting defense of farside there, which means we're getting somewhere. The question wasn't about whether Nacho is an able scum player (he is) but to try and get a bead on how earnest farside's non-read was.
In post 1282, farside22 wrote:I think I been duped more times then I can count.
This is a different answer than "rarely." "Rarely" says "I never have an idea what Nacho is, town or scum." This says "I usually have an idea what Nacho is, but then I turn out to be wrong." This doesn't say "it's all null with him," which is what your earlier post said.
I'm saying that he plays whatever way he wants is null.
It isn't alignment inductive.
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In post 1299, Ankamius wrote:Okay, step one: can someone quote for me their points on Pistachi0n?
Besides not really scum hunting. Asking pointless questions and just actively lurking.
No I'm thinking that's all I got.
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In post 1305, Thor665 wrote:In post 1303, farside22 wrote:Besides not really scum hunting. Asking pointless questions and just actively lurking.
I can see with a squint not thinking he's scumhunting well and that his questions are pointless. I disagree and consider it more of a playstyle thing, but I can see where you're coming from there.
How are you justifying active lurk on him though?
Like, even just glancing at what he's posted this phase I do not even see that remotely supported as a concept. Clarify?
Actively lurking.
Basically posting stuff but nothing really relevant.
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In post 1307, Thor665 wrote:So you do agree that, at least starting today Pistach has leveled a case against someone, pressured them (these two points regardless of the elative quality you apply to said case and pressure), and isn't actively lurking?
So, is it last Day Phase they were active lurking?
One post does not wipe that all away.
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In post 1309, Thor665 wrote:I disagree with the application of 'active lurk' to the entirety of Day 2 from Pistach.
You are claiming active lurk on Day 1?
In post 1310, Thor665 wrote:Why does getting ahold of your feelings here feel like wrestling with wet cookie dough?
Maybe because I feel like it's obvious and I don't see your pov.
Is Pist engaging others day 2?
Not really
Is she really pushing her points any more day 2 then she did day 1?
No
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In post 1315, Thor665 wrote:
I see Pist both stating a scumread and engaging people about her scumread.
So, I would actually say - yes.
Even by you saying "not really" you are accepting that *something* is happening, just apparently not to a standard you are happy with...but, easily a vast swathe of the game is being more active lurk than that this phase, so what the hell?
In post 1314, farside22 wrote:Is she really pushing her points any more day 2 then she did day 1?
No
Does she push her points more when town than when scum?
Because if not - this is a meaningless point, and also, if she's pushing her points as much now as on Day 1 then i still don't get the active lurk claim.
In post 1314, farside22 wrote:Are you town reading her?
Yes.
You act like this is new.
Serious question but what is your experience when you see players that flip scum?
This isn't a meta thing. This is what I see over and over and over again and it just makes me look at players like really? You don't see this in every game?
A play that just pushes mild points and lurkers most of the game while others are trying to figure the game out.
A player that makes a few weak points and then disappears when a real conversation is going on.
I see it so much and so often I go well there is scum.
And I get this same thing of well this person here reads town so I'm sticking with it.
All the while I just glare at the computer screen and ask myself 10 times over are people dumb or scum.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 1336, Thor665 wrote:So you're making value calls on her play with zero Pistach experience?
In post 1337, Thor665 wrote:And, at the same time, expressing belief that I might be dumb for not seeing what you're seeing...
In post 1338, Thor665 wrote:Why are you cool with Cataphant?
I'm making a call on what I see from playing these games.
Didn't call you dumb at all.
Because at least I see something from cata this game.
Where the fuck is Nacho? Do you care?
Where is Pist?
Where is massive?
Where is verdith's?
You going to say everyone one of those players is town except cata then you can go fly a kite.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 1342, massive wrote:You've played plenty with me before. This is nothing different than my normal amount of play. Why are you feigning frustration at it now?
Not feigned in the least.
More just disappointed with the game state as a wholeSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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