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Normally, when I wake up, I will missed the RVS due to time zone difference.
Uniquely, I don't miss the RVS this time, since there's no RVS to begin with.
Hello people!"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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My first impression scums are {pisskop,Kuroi,Shaddowez}
pisskop and Kuroi are legit accusations. Shadowez is more to least town lean.
Time travel to the end and see if I get 3of3
Spoiler: PS:"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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You tell your reason and I tell mine, shall we?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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It's Saturday morning here."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Isn't it midnight in Britsh? Which means it's midnight? Technically, you are Saturday morning as well."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Sue me for having D at geography."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I am capable of seeing others train of thought.
You? "I am town" "Vote Epod Lady" "Vote Realeo" "Friday Night"
I was assuming that it's no longer RVS and you acted like it's still RVS. My observation said that town are having easier time leaving the RVS."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I mean, other player at least setup speccing or talking about meta, and that's what I would expect from a town. You?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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On my understanding, the RVS ended when the setup spec enters or someone makes proper fos, because that is a substantial argument. Magna literally talk about setup like post #10? So the RVS is very short-lived."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I'm just trying to make a serious analysis.In post 74, pisskop wrote:You guys always want to make glass etchings in the sand
Normally, I fancy a good RVS. But I can't do that in this game.
If you meta me, you will understand that my big guns are POE, voting pattern analysis, and night kill analysis.
VPA is going to be not that substantial since plurality vote is not necesarily a lynch. The context and the risk is different.
NKA is going to be not that substantial since everyone can litteraly commit that kill.
So my only big gun is POE, and I do POE by trying to catch people's logic. If the logic clops, then I can mark you as town, hence the POE.
I can't catch yours, pisskop."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I can use some help.In post 76, pisskop wrote:I guess you could meta me, but I doubt you will because nobody does. not properly."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Myeah, the meta check out. You pretty much roll like that.
Argument out of the window, then."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Then what do you get?In post 79, KuroiXHF wrote:This is so much fun, and is one of the reasons I love RVS.
I get to know who takes my early-game talk as anything but null."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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This is mini theme, so I only check his mini theme. I learned in my newbie game that you should only count recent games when doing meta, as I lynched a VT backed in my newbie game for metaing someone for their game that is like 2 years ago, so I picked his two earliest game. I only need to inspect his RVS because that's the scope of the talk.
The meta checks out.
In his meta, he talks a little bit more than a naked vote, but the attitude checks out."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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The problem with the meta is, I don't know if this implies if pisskop is town or scum. The meta only refutes my argument. I am putting pisskop at town lean because I do like the exchange.
Kuroi's defensiveness, though, is another beast. I explicitly said that my fos is gut feeling.
Kuroi said.In post 60, Realeo wrote:This is a serious accusation. Obviously, I will re-evaluate my analysis, but this is a serious accusation.Also obviously, this comes from guts. =D
So deductively:In post 79, KuroiXHF wrote:This is so much fun, and is one of the reasons I love RVS.
I get to know who takes my early-game talk as anything but null.
[*]Scumreading initial reaction is scummy
[*]I scumread Kuroi's initial reaction
[*]Therefore, I am scummy
However,
[*]Scumreading initial reaction is scummy
[*]Kuroi scumread my initial reaction
[*]Therefore, Kuroi is scummy
Obviously, the logic above is circular and dumb,but that's the point of the observation.=/
That said, I don't necessarily put Kuroi as scum. The only reason I posted this is it seems most of you are Merkan, which means you are going to rabble rabble while I'm asleep. I'm only posting this so you have something to rabble rabble about."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Meh, whatever."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Let me explain something because my initial fos actually generates controversy. It is meant to be harmless guess.
I tried to make first reaction mafia post back in Open 648.
And it generates quite a content. It's just meant to be a guess, not a push. I mean, I only used my voting power 4 pages later.
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Back to this game. After the setup speculation, this game is slowing down, so I did that post. It's not a push, it's just a guess to advance the conversation. So for people who said that I'm trying too much, let me say two words, bitch plz."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Excuse me. I am an undergraduate student, ok? My reading speed is at my peak of its time.In post 93, shos wrote:nobody gets meta so quick
Plus, there is something bottom shaped like a [+] that is called iso button. Two minutes/ game is definitely doable. The only thing that I can't master is Englizh.
It is highly ironic that you make a joke of me how I am not competent then showed that yourself is not competent.In post 109, lane0168 wrote:The thing I don't like is that he stopped looking at meta after 4 minutes without getting any sort of read.
[1] The scope of the conversation is refuting the argument. I limit my search to that.
[2] Do you really expect me to build a read out of RVS?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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The argument!
I was questioning pisskop, pisskop said "look meta'. I did. The argument is refuted, end of business.In post 70, Realeo wrote:I am capable of seeing others train of thought.
You? "I am town" "Vote Epod Lady" "Vote Realeo" "Friday Night"
I was assuming that it's no longer RVS and you acted like it's still RVS. My observation said that town are having easier time leaving the RVS.
I have no argument anymore so I stopped talking. I like his conversation, so I put him at town lean."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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lane, it was page 4, not page 40. In page 40, I definitely will make a more complex read."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Excellent! Then we speak the same language!
Method of research : POE. So instead of trying to find the actual scum, I try to eliminate town to whittle down to final 3.
Hypothesis 0 : pisskop is being giberish and not making senses. In my opinion, that is anti-town. As a result, he stays in the list.
Hypothesis 1 : pisskop argued that it is his nature, so it should be NAI.
Data : The mata
Conclusion : pisskop likes to giberrish. Therefore Hyphothesis 0 is rejected.
So my argument is out of the window.
So I started from scratch, right? I like my exchange with pisskop, so I put hit at town lean."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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pisskop
-> wiki
-> Open (This particular mini theme game is an open one. So my option is either theme game or open game. Did quick iso look and pisskop mostly replace in Theme judging from the first post number and the size doesn't really match (this is 13 players game. Most pisskop are 20 players) so Open it is.)
-> Open #610 (Kill all Townies) (Under the hydra of Alma Mater)
-> Open #597 (Jungle republic)
And he was being gibberish.
It's 1 town and 1 mafia game. Therefore, I said that I can't decide if this is town or mafia read.
In post 89, Realeo wrote:The problem with the meta is, I don't know if this implies if pisskop is town or scum. The meta only refutes my argument."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I am not building reads. I am only checking argument validity. Therefore, I do meta RVS alone.One does not meta RVS alone."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I can't understand how the concept of fact checking seems alien and weird."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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1. I checked them because pisskop hinted it. We're sharing argument and he refuted my argument from metaIn post 125, shos wrote:The real question is why gou would egen try to check those facts and whther or not you actually did that check or you are lying.
Why is being gibberish scummy for you? Did you also meta me for my gibberish?
2. As I said. I was gutreading so I lower the bar. I can understand your gibberish. Pisskop however is only naked voting. I confront it.
Are you actually reading the exchange?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Any question? Please read my exchange between piskopp first."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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On another point, lane, why do you insist that I should make a read out of meta? Especially from RVS. The scope of RVS is so narrow that I don't recall people make agenuineread out of it."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Let me try to clarify this.In post 125, shos wrote:Why is being gibberish scummy for you?
Back when I was playing Epic Mafia--don't worry, I am already detoxificated from it--there is something that you can say as fillering.
Yours (shos) is not fillering. Your are dumbtelling. However, I don't think you are scum who is dumbtelling--thus the reason you are not part of the trio that I fos--but simply confused.
pisskop in my opinion is fillering.
In post 43, pisskop wrote:Im town.I argued, "Why the hell that you naked voting when RVS is over." Pisskop argued (implicitly) that it's still RVS is his opinion. He said that in his meta, he gibber like that during RVS. I meta it and his statement checks out.
Then enter you, shos, who is suddenly making fuss of it."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Mine to explain Kraska77? I am completely null at Kraska, so I am actually surprised that her name showed up. If your reasoning is due the setup spec talk, then I am kinda confused why shos is not in the "safe list"? They are both throwing ideas into the ring as well??In post 135, Almost50 wrote:Most of you know I don't provide complete readlists, but here's a list of players I've decided I don't want to vote today:
PeregrineV, MagnaofIllusion, KuroiXHF, Realeo, Nosferatu, pisskop,Kraska77
That leaves me with lane0168, shos, Vedith, Epod~lady, shaddowez for a current lynch pool
As always, preliminary reads are highly volatile and subject to change with more content provided.
P.S. Can we have one or two more discussion issues going in parallel with the current "Realeo bad. No, Realeo good" please?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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The only thing that bothers me is the dynamic of lane and shos.
I understand that you sometimes interrogate your town read.
I understand that you sometimes work together, and that's not necessarily buddying or scummy.
However, lanetownreadme andscumreadshos.
How in the whole world, lane work withshostogether to interrogateme?
I mean, when I mentioned my fos, I feel disgust (well, overkill, but you get my point.)
But lane seems to be laxed about it. This maybe incorrect conclusion, but I'm thinking either both shos and lane are scum or both shos and lane are town. No in between."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Not defending, but as someone with different time zone than Merkan (12 hours. "You say good morning when it's good night.") , not having content is annoying. On other games, I don't need to push for content since on D1, I normally receive 3~5 pages of content per day when I sleep .lane0168 wrote:Fuckin right. Everyone going 12+ hours without content besides "post tomorrow" is bullshit. Good post though. Your naked vote didn't seem like much, but the case you're laying down now on the guy trying to get shit going is undeniable.
This game barely made a page in a day."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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BTW. How many of you soft V/LA during weekend? This may explains the lack of activity."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Statistically speaking, this implies that we only need to strand when mafia are 3 people, right?
I mean, if we strand a goon, mafia is down from 2 kills -> 1.
But with 2 mafiosos and 1 mafia, mafia kill will only stay as 1 kill. Stranding can't damage scum."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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To be honest, I won a lot of EpicMafia's game shos' way, which is why I mentioned dumbtelling. But the underlined thingy is potentially true.In post 188, kraska77 wrote:He kept getting one thing wrong abt the setup after the other and the thing he said about confirming the wrong role was unprovoked and looked incredibly scummy, I don't think he would have said that if he were scum.Also mod was afk for a while iirc, so mod not correcting his conf is believable"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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This is actually a good point. Kraska, what do you mean by "tryhard". I mean, I always push hard, especially on the beginning of the game. Does this mean that if I play with you, you will keep scum reading my by default?In post 194, MagnaofIllusion wrote:On policy I’d also like to strand kraska for repeated use of the phrase “tryhard” which is so inane it hurts my brain to have to read it.
To be precise, what is the definition of "scum trying hard" and "town trying hard"? Vague responses may work but I personally believe in the concept of 'effort is NAI', so can't really see your perspective.
I personally found it NAI, but I shouldn't be answering for him.In post 194, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Shos – since no-one bit on your “I have Kuroi scum meta” what does that say to you in general and about Kuroi specifically?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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You defended me when voting Shos.In post 231, lane0168 wrote:I never said anything about townreading you. Good try. -1"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Ok people. Change topic. What do you think of Vedith? Nobody mentioned like the last 5 pages, and he's not special enough to be left out of the discussion."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I was on the same wavelength with you, until I checked Activity overview. Last post : 22 hours ago.
Can't really tell if he's lurking or simply inactive."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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This won't work. Scum can just divert their kill.In post 293, pisskop wrote:gave it some idle thought.
im aware people are dancing around suggesting or bring up shot coordination.
so ill do it.
its, as i alluded to before, bad. we cant guarentte anyone not in a hood to not hoodwink us.
the only solution that alloews eg coordination is 3+ groups agreeing to shoot 1 person. which is a condition id insist upon were we to.
otherwise i believe we have enough epeen inthread to see deaths tonight
If none of them being shot, easy 6 towns dead. 7-3, if I don't misintepret."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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You said 3+ groups.In post 301, pisskop wrote:well no. it does work let us find out that 2 scum failed to kill their target
theyd be claiming scum
= A is stranded
A is killed by (C) D E
D is killed by F (G) H
G is killed by B M [N]
If the in the (brackets) are the goon and in the [blocky brackets] is the strongman, they can divert it to:
A is killed by D E
D is killed by F H
G is killed by B M
E is killed by (C)
H is killed by (G)
M is killed by [N]
Pedit: I hate you."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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If you're really that stressed, why don't you make a new topic? I did with Vedith.In post 310, Almost50 wrote:Some of you are adamant to drive me nuts. Are we going to "just" discuss the mechanics of the night action, and not scum hunt? If that's the case, you can all strand me, and -being stranded- it will force one goon to shoot me, while strongman shoots someone else. That guarantees 2 scum NKs and no Town kills, and you can start over from scratch tomorrow."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Change of mood time!
VOTE: KuroiXHF
Obviously, I will review this vote late when Vedith and Lady returned. For the time being, I am comfortable with this vote."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Oh God. I thought my vote will stop this setup spec. I am losing my touch."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Let me put it this way.
This night killing agreement only works when everyone abides it, right?
I am not going to abide any of it when both masons are alive.
(Unless you can come with something that guarantees that both masons are alive)
And Pereginev, your plan sucks. If scum is odd, instead killing the even, he will kill another odd. Maximum of 9 town dead. 3 mafiaosos v 2 town. GGWP."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Here's a rebuttal.
Even kill odd, right?
So the assumption is, if strongman is odd, he is auto killed. If strongman is even, he survives and the lynch pool cuts in 1/2.
But there is a way for strongman to survive as odd and not getting killed.
Spoiler: How?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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This is potentially better but no cigar.In post 362, shos wrote:guys the setup is symmetrical. We don't have to go 1-2 3-4 5-6 by PVs plan, we just have to decide which couples do that, which we can do by scumhunting. All we need is that the most scummy ones are defending."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Can we just, town, each town nominate three people that we want to kill and vouch that if we don't barricade, we will kill in the list.
Say, I nominate {Kuroi,Almost,MoI} just for illustration.
If I don't barricade, I vouch that I will kill in the list.
Obviously, if only person nominate a guy, that guy will not be shot, thus increasing the probability of a successful shot.
Less opportunity for Wifom."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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PereV is town, imo. At least not strong man."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I'm not saying to make a list now. I was thinking like 3 days before deadline. We still have time to scumhunt. Why rush?"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Oh, a read list? I thought a kill list."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Eh? What did I say?In post 382, shos wrote:
why not?In post 375, Realeo wrote:
This is potentially better but no cigar.In post 362, shos wrote:guys the setup is symmetrical. We don't have to go 1-2 3-4 5-6 by PVs plan, we just have to decide which couples do that, which we can do by scumhunting. All we need is that the most scummy ones are defending.
that kinda throws all that you say out the window lol"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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HURT: NOIn post 386, shos wrote:Can we officially say that we have a plan and start over D1 as a normal scumhunting game, so that we can end today with a stranded guy and a list of 6 X shoots Ys?
The X shoots Y only hits a maximum amount of 1 scum. My method of nominating kill and intuitively adjusting our kill can potentially eradicate all mafia if we make a perfect read."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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If a towny is stranded and strongman is not in the 6 Ys, then mafia may wifom by having nobody killed. Town will try to kill the stranded tomorrow by having another town kill him and mafia can potentially score 3 town deads."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Sorry, that's a bad rebutal. I was semi-tired.
I mean, I don't know. The premise of trying to night-killing 1 scum by risking more than 1 town dead seems stupid."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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Someone answer me. So say that we decide the 6X and 6Y. How are we going to who shoots who?
And why the hell Vedith and shot still voting me? If you have reasons for your vote to stay there, speak up."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I repeat, how do you decide which of 6 X kills which of 6 Y.
That is the only loophole that I am seeing."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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I assume now you understand other player's meltdown when seeing you keep misunderstanding how Town Citizen works.In post 393, shos wrote:This streak of posts is one of the worst trainwrecks ive seen lol
Im literally laughing loud"The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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It does matter. If I am mafia goon, can secure a shot on my strongman, my strongman survives.In post 393, shos wrote:It doesnt matter who shoots who."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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By we noticed the occasion
a) We don't even know if it's a stranded strong man or paired goon-strong man
b) Ideal play for scum is to kill a pair of X-Y to dismiss association. By we noticed the occasion, we already loses 4 town."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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That is like the most ignorant comment of the year.In post 399, shos wrote:That is the point of choosing 6 people.
If we choose well, the shooters will not have scum. If we fail, and coincidentally that scum shooter is supposed to shoot his buddy, then yes, a kill goes through. Hence setup is not broken. But then we have rhem paired up.
If we succeed, 1 scum dies. If we fail, at least 4 townies die.
I like this plan! Minimize profit and maximize risk!
But then we have rhem paired up.DANGEROUS FALLACY ALERT
If X flips scum, Y is not guaranteed to be scum since 1 scum is not paired upand as I mentioned in previous post, which obviously mean you didn't readwe doesn't necesarily have them paired up due to possibility of stranded strong man. Oops! VT was stranded after all. Another pair of townie is killed. 7 townies dead. 3 mafia v 4 towns."The debate on whether short multi postings or a long wall of post is good or not is like a debate on gun control--we would never understand each other and we have to make peace with it." -Realeo
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