New York 152 Niiightless Game Over!

[UberNinja]

In your study, most of the time it's town by town. I'm not scum and that's a terrible excuse to vote me. (your study)
Psyche has got to be scum if he ignored that. VOTE: Psyche

This is a crappy vote. Give me more.

Tell me why you're town. Give me one good reason not to scream for your death with every post I make.
If you lie to me, I will make it my personal creed in life to lynch you in every game ever from now on.

This is my ultimatum.

[UberNinja]

*resists reference to kick Psyche in the fucking teeth*

[UberNinja]

*reference should be urge

wow, i totally boffed that one eh? haha <3

[UberNinja]

So crypto, I'm really interested to know why you're so averse to pummeling the BK201 wagon into the ground.

Really, really interested.

[UberNinja]

No. I don't see that being the case here.

[UberNinja]

So crypto, I'm really interested to know why you're so averse to pummeling the BK201 wagon into the ground.

Really, really interested.

i don't have a scum read on him

....

[UberNinja]

What about Pine?

[UberNinja]

VOTE: Psyche

Part of this is because I'm annoyed by his statistics, part is because I just don't see any point in them, but it's mainly just annoying.

If you promise me that you will not make any more crazy meta statistics, I will unvote you.

What the HELL is this.

[UberNinja]

UberNinja, please explain how you went from conducting a crusade against Psyche for most of the game to actively defending him, to the point of ridiculing and chainsawing those who vote for him. I just went through your ISO, and it's a pretty sudden and wholly unexplained change.

Psyche has a number of problems, but nothing nearly as bad as BK conspicuously and continually voting ONLY for counterwagons to the redFF wagon.

I am not ridiculing people who vote for Psyche because of who they're voting for; it's just that we have scummier fish to fry.

Do you think BK is town?

[UberNinja]

That's a better fucking case than the "case" on Psyche.

Plus my nagging gut feel that Psyche is town.

[UberNinja]

Guys, am I seriously the only one who sees Pine for what he obviously is?

No, you are not.

And fuck, you D3f3nder, my meta stats are gold and I don't care enough about this game to make so dumb a promise.

Guys, I am town. My stats are fine. You complain about them not being a big enough sample size, but seriously —

how big are the sample sizes that lead you to draw your OWN conclusions about Mafia?

. My studies show that, a lot of the time, people don't know what the hell a scumtell is. They run on intuition and accuse players of doing 'scummy' things that aren't even scummy!

My studies show that Pine as scum OFTEN opportunistically makes spurious accusations to get town lynched. 6/7 times that he's use'd the meaningless flail accusation in a Large Normal, he's been scum! He made the same spurious crap in this game against Mogri. He's been very consistent in his meta, and this game is a continuation. Pine is scum.

We are misguided, and I've made the first step to finding out just what the right way to guide oneself is. I don't know why you give so much more clout to your own intuitive views on what a scumtell is even after I've beem able to collect something so much more substantial. Don't you see that you may quite possibly be completely wrong about how the game works? Can't you see the self-doubt that motivates my behavior?

Well fuck this. I've given a good hard try. I even reread the thread and got back into the game. Scum can have it. I'll remember not to lurk in future games, because that's somehow scummy even when it isn't.

The rest of this post positively bleeds town.

Whoever's on the Psyche wagon, I highly recommend getting off.

[UberNinja]

Psyche, I really think you should reevaluate how you play. Meta isn't the end-all and "scumtells" aren't perfect indicators. Also you're acting really.. well. Teenagery right now. Full of yourself. Just play THIS game as long as you're in it, defend yourself and if you can't convince us someone's scum then try another angle. Don't just keep whining the same story over and over and then give up, and talk to yourself about what you'd do differently next time. Do it THIS time.

If you're town, well then convince us.

THIS IS THE FUCKING CONDESCENDING ATTITUDE I AM TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO NORAAA AND PEOPLE SHE THINKS ARE ALREADY AS GOOD AS LYNCHED

THIS, RIGHT HERE

[UberNinja]

That's a better fucking case than the "case" on Psyche.

Plus my nagging gut feel that Psyche is town.

This is completely incongruous with your previous statements.

Unvote
Vote: UberNinja

I feel good about this.

Unvote
Vote: Psyche

Nah. As much as my suspicion of UberNinja is peaking, it doesn't make sense to abandon a wagon on someone that's at least as likely to be scum. UberNinja tomorrow.

Ok, Pine, let's talk about these posts.

a) no it's not completely incongruous

. my scum read on psyche had been weakening as my scum read on noraaa, you and BK strengthened.

I'm less sure on Psyche-scum as I have been. I prefer noraaa.

*

than

I have been.

b) they're fruitless in terms of votes

because you switch from one wagon onto another, and then back onto the first. this is called scum posturing.

why? because it's scum throwing their weight around so other people will take notice of what they're saying (using their vote and voice to do one thing, but then switching back to voting the other direction while only using their voice to point... but there's still 2 votes in there so people will think it's a big deal and pay attention for a split second.

also because it changes the vote counts and the wagon analysis, moving you from whatever spot you were on the wagon before to a later spot on the wagon.

c) this is the best and most juicy one.

if you think i'm scum for changing my opinion on psyche, then let's study what the scum-motivated benefit of that could be:

either:
1. either i know he's town and i've been pushing for his lynch all game, only to jump off the bandwagon like it's hot as soon as it looks like he's going to be lynched, so that I won't be on a mislynch (MEANING I AM SCUM AND HE IS TOWN)

or:
2. i am not sure (BEING TOWN) and i've been pushing on him all game because of stupid shit he's been saying, but actually have some deep-seated doubts about his alignment, and want to lynch someone for something WAY SCUMMIER than psyche but am less sure on psyche (MEANING I AM TOWN AND HE IS TOWN)

in other words, there IS no hypothetical scum-motivation or benefit for me, as scum, to jump off the wagon and start shunning it like the plague.

and in BOTH of those scenarios, Psyche is town. which means you're jumping off a town wagon to someone you "think is scum", and then jumping back on the town wagon because a vote on me is completely useless because the Psyche wagon is far more viable at this point for you and your little scum friends.

and then of course the obvious...

d), you just want to stay on a counter-wagon to your scum buddy BK

....

just like he was on every counter-wagon to redFF's lynch

you're a lot more transparent than you think, buddy






crypto, cf riot, this guy. lynch the fuck out of him if i ever die at any point.

[UberNinja]

noraaa, <3

So, let me get this straight...you think I'm buddies with BK, who you think was buddies with RedFF...so you're suggesting that in a sixteen-player game, we have two scumteams of three each, making the starting numbers 10 v 3 v 3?

Unlikely. Try again.

I never said anything of the sort. I don't even know if there's more than one scum "team" per se, even though "Blue Mafia Goon" seems to suggest it.

Consider:

Also, what are the odds that there is actually only one scum team and Ythan is trolling us?

I'd say extremely low based on just about everything I know about Mafia, this site, and Ythan.

lolol Ythan -would- do that, and he would laugh all the way to endgame over it, too. Which is not to say he DID do that, but that you don't know his ways as well as you might think you do. When I saw the blue team thing I literally immediately wondered how many factions, if any, there were.

And I assume noraaa has more experience than Ythan, so I took that into account.

...

But I'm interested, why does 10-3-3 seem unlikely to you? That seems pretty balanced to me.

[UberNinja]

does UN always play like this as town? if so just stay on psyche or myself.

I'm confused to the max by this post, but the answer is yes.

Read any of my games.
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=UberNinja

[UberNinja]

that ^

[UberNinja]

six out of seven times what, Psyche

[UberNinja]

Personally I'm waiting for UN to actually tell me why I'm such a big scumread without being willing to actually defend a really horrible case on me that was made days ago, and which I refuted immediately afterwards. All I get is ignored. It makes me want blood, honestly. Cause only someone stupid would be town and not address a blatant lie they used to try to push on me. Idk, maybe UN is an idiot. I'd like to believe otherwise. Which means scum or severely egotistical, or both.

And as for the Psyche thing, I've honestly psyched myself out (no pun intended) and don't know if he's scum or just severely misguided in how he's handling this game. After the last three I'm second guessing the hell out of myself. I really don't want to lynch another townie. I'm not great with math but I'm pretty sure that's a bad thing. I've been going back and forth on like four people this whole game and I can't keep a solid decision on them.

Which blatant lie? If I get scummy feelings from you I'm not going to be shy about saying it. I've already said I get scummy feelings from you because of the way you talk to people when you seem to be in a more commanding position than them; you speak condescendingly and it doesn't feel right in my tummy tum tum.

That doesn't make me an idiot. But even I was an egotistical idiot, how does that mean I'm scum?

I'm seeing a Psyche-UN team, quite frankly.

Really now.

Please explain that in context of this post:

That's a better fucking case than the "case" on Psyche.

Plus my nagging gut feel that Psyche is town.

This is completely incongruous with your previous statements.

Unvote
Vote: UberNinja

I feel good about this.

Unvote
Vote: Psyche

Nah. As much as my suspicion of UberNinja is peaking, it doesn't make sense to abandon a wagon on someone that's at least as likely to be scum. UberNinja tomorrow.

Ok, Pine, let's talk about these posts.

a) no it's not completely incongruous

. my scum read on psyche had been weakening as my scum read on noraaa, you and BK strengthened.

I'm less sure on Psyche-scum as I have been. I prefer noraaa.

*

than

I have been.

b) they're fruitless in terms of votes

because you switch from one wagon onto another, and then back onto the first. this is called scum posturing.

why? because it's scum throwing their weight around so other people will take notice of what they're saying (using their vote and voice to do one thing, but then switching back to voting the other direction while only using their voice to point... but there's still 2 votes in there so people will think it's a big deal and pay attention for a split second.

also because it changes the vote counts and the wagon analysis, moving you from whatever spot you were on the wagon before to a later spot on the wagon.

c) this is the best and most juicy one.

if you think i'm scum for changing my opinion on psyche, then let's study what the scum-motivated benefit of that could be:

either:
1. either i know he's town and i've been pushing for his lynch all game, only to jump off the bandwagon like it's hot as soon as it looks like he's going to be lynched, so that I won't be on a mislynch (MEANING I AM SCUM AND HE IS TOWN)

or:
2. i am not sure (BEING TOWN) and i've been pushing on him all game because of stupid shit he's been saying, but actually have some deep-seated doubts about his alignment, and want to lynch someone for something WAY SCUMMIER than psyche but am less sure on psyche (MEANING I AM TOWN AND HE IS TOWN)

in other words, there IS no hypothetical scum-motivation or benefit for me, as scum, to jump off the wagon and start shunning it like the plague.

and in BOTH of those scenarios, Psyche is town. which means you're jumping off a town wagon to someone you "think is scum", and then jumping back on the town wagon because a vote on me is completely useless because the Psyche wagon is far more viable at this point for you and your little scum friends.

and then of course the obvious...

d), you just want to stay on a counter-wagon to your scum buddy BK

....

just like he was on every counter-wagon to redFF's lynch

Particularly the either/or under option c).

More clearly... What is the benefit for me to:

a) randomly start bussing psyche out of the blue, causing the whole shitstorm where he's now being voted
b) turn around at the last second and say "actually psyche is probably town"

...if we're scum together?

That makes literally no sense, and makes me even more sure you're scum pushing for a mislynch.

[UberNinja]

I am fucking baffled by the idiocy here. Maybe a small part of it is my own, but it's in no short supply.

[UberNinja]

I'm going to take a break from this thread for a day or so, because I clearly haven't been comprehending everything.

I admit I have been gratuitous in skimming to a degree, but the amount of vitriol noraaa is spewing at me is intense.

[UberNinja]

noraaa, do me a favor and tell me how far back I should read. 10 pages? 20 pages? I am in a lot of games and I can't afford to spend more time on this than necessary because I have [about 40 pages] to read elsewhere.

[UberNinja]

Disingenuous. Someone intent on getting lynched would self vote, for starters.

BK, I'm gonna look at what I think #1681 means. Your quotes are bolded.

Guys just vote me.

This suggests that you are scum. Self-vote if you want to be lynched.

This isn't going anywhere anytime soon

It's gonna have to...deadline's in four days.

and I don't have much time for mafia currently.

Request V/LA then!

I am probably right about one of the people I've said are scum.

That probably means that you are.

I'm thinking that Psyche and you are scumbuddies.



A few questions for you now:
1. As of now, who are the most scummy players in the game?
2. Before they were lynched, what were your reads on the lynched players?

Psyche's post makes me think even more than before that he's town.

Defender's post is ??? because Psyche's post makes him much

less

likely to be scum buddies with BK.

[UberNinja]

Fuck this, I'm voting Pine if there's no hammer in less than twelve hours from this post.

[UberNinja]

Nope. Fuckin' Pine.

[UberNinja]

Well, fuck.

What's to say that Psyche and BK201 aren't both scum?

They were both on each other's wagons, and I can't see any reason other than survival for that. Why would Psyche so quickly abandon the BK wagon if he was soooo sure about his 42.5% calculations?

This game's a mess to read. Part of the reason I pay more attention to smaller threads when I do have time.

Psyche lynch is a bad one, I know I havn't been very active, but Psyche is a decent town read at this point. I don't even see the case on him, not when there are players like pine and inti. Kayure had good points on inti, I don't see why they wouldn't still stand VOTE: inti

I agree that psyche's "research" is a bit scummy, but inte and pine are overall scummier.

This is BK giving a "read" on Psyche.

In your study, most of the time it's town by town. I'm not scum and that's a terrible excuse to vote me. (your study)
Psyche has got to be scum if he ignored that. VOTE: Psyche

This is BK looking for an excuse to get on the Psyche wagon.

When in reality he's just voting him so he doesn't get lynched himself.


--


tl;dr: I think Psyche and BK are scum together.

I want BK lynched first though. Whoever switched to Pine is doing it just because I said I'd do it, and I haven't done it yet fucktards. So get the fuck back on BK.

[UberNinja]

Vote: Psyche

Self explanatory.

[UberNinja]

Vote: Psyche

Self explanatory.

Could you explain your vote.

I explained I thought you were scum with BK right before BK flipped scum

If he flipped town I would be voting for Pine. But he didn't.

[UberNinja]

crypto you're also rubbing me the wrong way a lot recently

coasting and pretending you're awesome and such.

[UberNinja]

My read on BK was based on "breezy speculation" too, based on his avoiding the redFF wagon like the plague.

I'm going to keep running in the same direction until I hit a brick wall.

[UberNinja]

Vote count analysis for the fucking win. Me and you are fucking awesome, crypto. <3

don't associate me with your falsely effortful-looking iioa

actually would've been pretty nonsensical to use the mogri as a counter-wagon instead of just busing redff, because the redff wagon had much more momentum.

then again, bk201 put the fourth vote on mogri compared to five votes on redff.

hiraki's chipper attitude is unsettling given that we are in pretty dire straits atm

let's get cf

You guys are really egotistic if

stop right there. yes, this is mafiascum.net.

Cool reasoning bro

I did a search because I couldn't possibly fathom why you have a stick up your ass and found out that you asked me "what are you doing bro" to my suspicion on BK, so I don't know how to answer such a vague question

you went from lightly fosing him to cheering on his wagon with nothing in between and you've contributed nothing

So crypto, I'm really interested to know why you're so averse to pummeling the BK201 wagon into the ground.

Really, really interested.

i don't have a scum read on him

oh suddenly you have a problem with me. whoa.

vote: bk201

meh. bk201 doesn't look scummy to me; i think it's cf riot + matias + people.

god am i the only one who's disturbed by how hiraki is just cruising confidently late in the game with the town's back to the wall

this kind of shit, crypto

[UberNinja]

yeah I suspect 3-3-10 as well

we're not lynching psyche

and why the fuck not

[UberNinja]

Yes, it damn well is.

[UberNinja]

"Am I the only one who thinks X? Somebody please validate what I'm thinking! I feel like I'm going to be lynched! Help!"

Is that an appeal to majority I see? Or an appeal to pity? cuz I can't tell.

[UberNinja]

You could be a lawyer, UN. You sure know how to frame an argument.

[UberNinja]

That's literally the shirt I'm wearing at this exact moment.

You must be a fucking psychic.

[UberNinja]

Spoiler:

Vote Count

1 Vifam (

redFF

) L-8
1

redFF

(BBmolla)
1 BBmolla (crypto)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Hiraki (Vifam)
0

BK201

0 Blonde Doctor
0 inte
0 Major Minor
0 Matias
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 VitorMachado

11 Not Voting (

BK201

, Blonde Doctor, Hiraki, inte, Major Minor, Matias, mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

2

redFF

(BBmolla, Vifam) L-7
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 BBmolla (crypto)
1 crypto (Pine)
0 Hiraki
0

BK201

0 Blonde Doctor
0 inte
0 Major Minor
0 Matias
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 VitorMachado

11 Not Voting (

BK201

, Blonde Doctor, Hiraki, inte, Major Minor, Matias, mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

4

redFF

(BBmolla, Vifam, Hiraki, crypto) L-5
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 crypto (Pine)
0 BBmolla
0 Hiraki
0

BK201

0 Blonde Doctor
0 inte
0 Major Minor
0 Matias
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 VitorMachado

10 Not Voting (

BK201

, Blonde Doctor, inte, Major Minor, Matias, mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

4

redFF

(BBmolla, Vifam, Hiraki, Matias) L-5
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Hiraki (inte)
1 inte (crypto)
0 BBmolla
0

BK201

0 Blonde Doctor
0 Major Minor
0 Matias
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 VitorMachado

8 Not Voting (

BK201

, Blonde Doctor, Major Minor, mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

3

redFF

(BBmolla, Vifam, Hiraki) L-6
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
1 noraaa (

BK201

)
1 Pine (Major Minor)
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 BBmolla
0

BK201

0 Major Minor
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

7 Not Voting (mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado, crypto, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

2

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki) L-7
2 Major Minor (mb53, crypto)
2 Pine (Major Minor, BBmolla)
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
1 noraaa (

BK201

)
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 BBmolla
0

BK201

0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

5 Not Voting (

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, VitorMachado, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

2

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki) L-7
2 Pine (Major Minor, BBmolla)
1 Vifam (

redFF

)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
1 noraaa (

BK201

)
1 BBmolla (

Nobody Special

)
1

BK201

(crypto)
1 inte (mb53)
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0 mb53
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

4 Not Voting (

Mogri

, noraaa, VitorMachado, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

3 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

, crypto) L-6
3

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki, Matias)
2 Pine (Major Minor, BBmolla)
1 inte (mb53)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 BBmolla (

Nobody Special

)
0 Blonde Doctor
0

BK201

0 Vifam
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

4 Not Voting (

Mogri

, noraaa, VitorMachado, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Blonde Doctor and Major Minor have been prodded. Noraaa has not as she declared V/LA for the weekend.

Vote Count

3 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

, crypto) L-6
3

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki, Matias)
2 Pine (Major Minor, BBmolla)
1 inte (mb53)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 BBmolla (

Nobody Special

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
0 Blonde Doctor
0 Vifam
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0

Mogri

0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

3 Not Voting (

Mogri

, VitorMachado, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki, Matias,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-4
3 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

, crypto)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 BBmolla (

Nobody Special

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
0 inte
0 Pine
0 Blonde Doctor
0 Vifam
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0

Nobody Special

0 VitorMachado

2 Not Voting (VitorMachado, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Seeking replacement for VitorMachado. Also Vifam if he doesn't post in the next two minutes I think.

Vote Count

5

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki, Matias,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-4
2 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
1 crypto (Pine)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1 BBmolla (

Nobody Special

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 Vifam (crypto)
0 inte
0 Pine
0 Blonde Doctor
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0

Nobody Special

0 Psyche

2 Not Voting (Psyche, inte)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(Vifam, Hiraki, Matias,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-4
2 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
1 Matias (Blonde Doctor)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 Vifam (crypto)
1 inte (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Pine)
1

Nobody Special

(inte)
0 crypto
0 BBmolla
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0 Psyche

1 Not Voting (Psyche)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(UberNinja, Hiraki, Matias,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-4
2 mb53 (

BK201

,

redFF

)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 UberNinja (crypto)
1 inte (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Pine)
1

Nobody Special

(inte)
1 BBmolla (Psyche)
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0 Psyche

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(UberNinja, Hiraki, Matias,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-4
4 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

,

Nobody Special

, inte)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
1 mb53 (

redFF

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 UberNinja (crypto)
1 Blonde Doctor (Pine)
0

Nobody Special

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki
0 Psyche

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

4 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

,

Nobody Special

, inte) L-5
3

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
2 Blonde Doctor (Pine, Matias)
1 mb53 (

redFF

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 UberNinja (crypto)
1 Psyche (UberNinja)
0

Nobody Special

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

4 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

,

Nobody Special

, inte) L-5
3

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla)
2

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53)
2 Psyche (UberNinja, Pine)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
1 mb53 (

redFF

)
1

BK201

(noraaa)
1 UberNinja (crypto)
0

Nobody Special

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

3

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla) L-6
3

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53, crypto)
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte, UberNinja)
2 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
1 mb53 (

redFF

)
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

4

Mogri

(Major Minor, mb53, crypto,

redFF

) L-5
3

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla)
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte, UberNinja)
2 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 Major Minor
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

BBmolla and Pine have been prodded. Seeking a replacement for Major Minor.

Vote Count

4

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla,

TechnoWC

) L-5
3

Mogri

(mb53, crypto,

redFF

)
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte, UberNinja)
2 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja) L-4
3

Mogri

(mb53, crypto,

redFF

)
2

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte)
2 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

5

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja) L-4
3

Mogri

(mb53, crypto,

redFF

)
2

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte)
2 BBmolla (Psyche,

BK201

)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Vote Count

6

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja, mb53) L-3
3

Mogri

(crypto,

redFF

,

BK201

)
2

Nobody Special

(noraaa, inte)
1 BBmolla (Psyche)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Seeking a replacement for BBmolla.

Vote Count

7

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

, BBmolla,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja, mb53, Psyche) L-2
4

Mogri

(crypto,

redFF

,

BK201

, noraaa)
1

Nobody Special

(inte)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 BBmolla
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 crypto
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Petapan replaces BBmolla. Blonde Doctor has been prodded.

Vote Count

8

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja, mb53, Psyche, crypto, petapan) L-1
3

Mogri

(

redFF

,

BK201

, noraaa)
1

Nobody Special

(inte)
1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 crypto
0 petapan
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

9 to lynch
Deadline May 10th

Seeking replacement for Blonde Doctor.

Vote Count

9

redFF

(Hiraki,

Mogri

,

TechnoWC

, UberNinja, mb53, Psyche, crypto, petapan, inte) LYNCH
3

Mogri

(

redFF

,

BK201

, noraaa)
0

Nobody Special

1 Psyche (Pine)
1 UberNinja (

Nobody Special

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0 crypto
0 petapan
0 mb53
0

BK201

0 inte
0 Matias
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0

TechnoWC

0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor)

Congratulations, you have lynched

redFF

! He was a Blue Mafia Goon!

With 15 alive it is now 8 to lynch.
Your new deadline is May 24th.

Vote Count

3

Mogri

(

TechnoWC

,

BK201

, Pine) L-5
2

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto)
1

BK201

(petapan)
0 petapan
0 Blonde Doctor
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

9 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor, Hiraki, Matias, mb53,

Mogri

,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, UberNinja, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

3

Mogri

(

TechnoWC

,

BK201

, Pine) L-5
2

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto)
1

BK201

(petapan)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Blonde Doctor
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

8 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor, Hiraki, Matias, mb53,

Nobody Special

, noraaa, UberNinja, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Mogri

I put your BBmolla vote on his replacement petapan.

Vote Count

5

Mogri

(

TechnoWC

,

BK201

, Pine, petapan, noraaa) L-3
2

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
1 Blonde Doctor (Matias)
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

6 Not Voting (Blonde Doctor, Hiraki, mb53,

Nobody Special

, UberNinja, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

5

Mogri

(

TechnoWC

,

BK201

, Pine, petapan, noraaa) L-3
2

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
1 Kairyuu (Matias)
1 inte (

Nobody Special

)
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

5 Not Voting (Kairyuu, Hiraki, mb53, UberNinja, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Pine has been prodded.

Vote Count

5

Mogri

(

TechnoWC

,

BK201

, Pine, petapan, noraaa) L-3
3

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto, UberNinja)
3 inte (

Nobody Special

, Kairyuu, Hiraki)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

3 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche, Matias)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

4

Mogri

(

BK201

, Pine, noraaa, Hiraki) L-4
3 inte (

Nobody Special

, Kairyuu, petapan)
3

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto, UberNinja)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

4 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche, Matias,

TechnoWC

)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Bk201 and Matias have been prodded. Crypto has not because he's on v/la. Seeking a replacement for mb53.

Mod, mb53 should be prodded.

Mb53 has been prodded.

mod, please prod everyone

I have been sending regular prods as in my rules.

Vote Count

4

Mogri

(

BK201

, Pine, noraaa, Hiraki) L-4
3 inte (

Nobody Special

, Kairyuu, petapan)
3

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto, UberNinja)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

4 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche, Matias,

TechnoWC

)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

4

Nobody Special

(inte, UberNinja, noraaa,

TechnoWC

) L-4
4

Mogri

(

BK201

, Hiraki, crypto,

Nobody Special

)
2 inte (Kairyuu, petapan)
2 Hiraki (Matias, Pine)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

2 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

5

Mogri

(

BK201

, Hiraki, crypto,

Nobody Special

, petapan) L-3
4

Nobody Special

(inte, UberNinja, noraaa,

TechnoWC

)
2 Hiraki (Matias, Pine)
1 inte (Kairyuu)
1 petapan (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0

TechnoWC

0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

2 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Vote Count

6

TechnoWC

(Kairyuu, UberNinja, Pine,

Nobody Special

,

Mogri

, noraaa) L-2
4

Nobody Special

(inte,

TechnoWC

, crypto,

BK201

)
2

Mogri

(Hiraki, petapan)
1 Hiraki (Matias)
0 petapan
0 inte
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

2 Not Voting (mb53, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 24th

Inte has been prodded.

Vote Count

8

TechnoWC

(Kairyuu, UberNinja, Pine,

Nobody Special

,

Mogri

, noraaa,

TechnoWC

, Psyche) LYNCH
3

Nobody Special

(inte, crypto,

BK201

)
2

Mogri

(Hiraki, petapan)
1 Hiraki (Matias)
0 petapan
0 inte
0 Kairyuu
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

1 Not Voting (mb53)

Congratulations, you have lynched

TechnoWC

! He was a Vanilla Townie!

With 14 alive it's still 8 to lynch.
Your new deadline is May 31st.

Vote Count

2

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja) L-6
2

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 Matias
0 mb53
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

9 not voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, crypto, inte, Matias, mb53,

Nobody Special

, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

3

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki, crypto) L-5
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja, inte)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

7 not voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

4

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja, inte, crypto) L-4
2

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

7 not voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja, crypto) L-5
2

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki)
2 inte (Kairyuu,

BK201

)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
1 Kairyuu (inte)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja
0 Psyche

5 not voting (petapan, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

2

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja) L-6
2

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki)
2 inte (Kairyuu,

BK201

)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
1 Kairyuu (inte)
1 Psyche (crypto)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja

5 not voting (petapan, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Psyche)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

7

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki, petapan, crypto,

Nobody Special

, Psyche,

BK201

) L-1
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja, CF Riot)
1 inte (Kairyuu)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
1 Kairyuu (inte)
0 Psyche
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja

1 not voting (Matias)

8 to lynch
Deadline May 31

Vote Count

8

Mogri

(Pine, Hiraki, petapan, crypto,

Nobody Special

, Psyche,

BK201

, inte) LYNCH
3

Nobody Special

(noraaa, UberNinja, CF Riot)
1 inte (Kairyuu)
1 Pine (

Mogri

)
0 Kairyuu
0 Psyche
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 UberNinja

1 not voting (Matias)

Congratulations, you have lynched

Mogri

! He was a Vanilla Townie!

With 13 alive it's now 7 to lynch.
Your new deadline is June 3rd.

Vote Count

2

Nobody Special

(crypto, inte) L-5
1 crypto (noraaa)
0 Psyche
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja

10 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Hiraki, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Pine, UberNinja, Psyche)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 3rd

Vote Count

2

Nobody Special

(crypto, inte) L-5
1 crypto (noraaa)
0 Psyche
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 Hiraki
0 inte
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja

10 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Hiraki, Matias, CF Riot,

Nobody Special

, Pine, UberNinja, Psyche)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 3rd

Vote Count

6

Nobody Special

(crypto, inte, UberNinja, Psyche, CF Riot, noraaa) L-1
3 Psyche (Hiraki, Pine,

Nobody Special

)
0 inte
0 crypto
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja

4 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Matias)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 3rd

Vote Count

7

Nobody Special

(crypto, inte, UberNinja, Psyche, CF Riot, noraaa, Pine) LYNCH
2 Psyche (Hiraki,

Nobody Special

)
0 inte
0 crypto
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine
0 UberNinja

4 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, Matias)

Congratulations, you have lynched

Nobody Special

! He was a Vanilla Townie!

With 12 alive it's still 7 to lynch.
Your new deadline is June 4th.

Vote Count

2 Psyche (Pine, UberNinja) L-5
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 noraaa
0 Pine

8 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, crypto, Hiraki, inte, Matias, noraaa)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1 noraaa (UberNinja)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 Pine

6 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, crypto, Matias, noraaa)

BK201

has been prodded.

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1 noraaa (UberNinja)
0 petapan
0

BK201

0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 Pine

6 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, crypto, Matias, noraaa)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1 noraaa (UberNinja)
1 Matias (crypto)
1

BK201

(Matias)
0 petapan
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki
0 CF Riot
0 Pine

4 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, noraaa)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
1 inte (CF Riot)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1

BK201

(Matias)
1 Pine (UberNinja)
1 CF Riot (crypto)
0 Matias
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

4 Not Voting (petapan,

BK201

, Kairyuu, noraaa)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

3 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte) L-4
3

BK201

(Matias, CF Riot, UberNinja)
1 UberNinja (Psyche)
1 CF Riot (crypto)
1 inte (

BK201

)
0 Pine
0 Matias
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

3 Not Voting (petapan, Kairyuu, noraaa)

Seeking a replacement for Kairyuu.

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, Psyche, petapan, noraaa) L-2
4 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte, CF Riot)
1 CF Riot (crypto)
1 inte (

BK201

)
0 UberNinja
0 Pine
0 Matias
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 Kairyuu
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (Kairyuu)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, Psyche, petapan, noraaa) L-2
4 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte, CF Riot)
1 CF Riot (crypto)
1 inte (

BK201

)
0 UberNinja
0 Pine
0 Matias
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (D3f3nd3r)

D3f3nd3r replaces Kairyuu.

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, petapan, noraaa, Psyche) L-2
5 Psyche (Pine, Hiraki, inte, CF Riot,

BK201

)
1 CF Riot (crypto)
0 inte
0 Pine
0 UberNinja
0 Matias
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (D3f3nd3r)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

5 Psyche (Hiraki, inte, CF Riot,

BK201

, D3f3nd3r) L-2
5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, petapan, noraaa, Psyche)
1 UberNinja (Pine)
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 inte
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (crypto)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

6 Psyche (Hiraki, inte, CF Riot,

BK201

, D3f3nd3r, Pine) L-1
5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, petapan, noraaa, Psyche)
0 UberNinja
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 inte
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (crypto)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

6 Psyche (Hiraki, inte, CF Riot,

BK201

, D3f3nd3r, Pine) L-1
4

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, petapan, Psyche)
1 UberNinja (noraaa)
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 inte
0 Pine
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (crypto)

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

5

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, crypto, D3f3nd3r, Psyche) L-2
4 Psyche (Hiraki, CF Riot,

BK201

, Pine)
1 Pine (petapan)
1 UberNinja (noraaa)
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 inte
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

1 Not Voting (inte)

Inte has been prodded.

7 to lynch
Deadline June 4th

Vote Count

7

BK201

(Matias, UberNinja, crypto, D3f3nd3r, Psyche, noraaa, inte) LYNCH
4 Psyche (Hiraki, CF Riot,

BK201

, Pine)
1 Pine (petapan)
0 UberNinja
0 Matias
0 CF Riot
0 inte
0 noraaa
0 petapan
0 D3f3nd3r
0 crypto
0 Hiraki

0 Not Voting

Congratulations, you have lynched

BK201

! He was a Blue Mafia Goon!

With 11 alive it's now 6 to lynch.
Your new deadline is June 15th.

[UberNinja]

Looking at the vote counts in posts 205 - 330, I think we can safely eliminate CF Riot as non-mafia, or if there are multiple mafias, non-blue mafia.

[UberNinja]

Dammit Ythan!

People are supposed to be like "whooaoaaaaaa look at all the work UN did, UN simply

must

be town!"

It's all part of my devious plan!

[UberNinja]

The only decent argument for BK scum was that he was on all of the RedFF counterwagons. Your phony statistics still suck.

That was the only argument I needed for him, and it's all I need for Psyche too.

In case you missed it, I gave BK201 a pretty fucking strong ultimatum, and after that, he stopped posting except for 2 last posts, the first of which didn't come until nearly 3 pages after my ultimatum. He knew he was scum, and he knew it was over.

So you can shut right the fuck up, whenever you're ready.

And here's the case on Psyche since you're wondering. According to my vote count analysis, Psyche stayed on BBmolla for the whole fucking entirety of Day 1, and then hopped over to redFF when it seemed like a foregone conclusion that he'd be lynched.

redFF flipped scum. Rinse and repeat.

Psyche stayed off all wagons for the entirety of Day 2, never once having a vote anywhere other than the Not Voting category. At the very end of the day, he sees that the Techno lynch is a foregone conclusion yet again, and hops on with a well-timed hammer. Fantastic.

Techno flipped town. Rinse and repeat.

On day 3, Psyche was off all wagons until Mogri had 5 votes. On the wagon Psyche goes. Sixth vote and counting on Mogri. Followed swiftly by BK201 (what a surprise), and then a hammer.

Mogri also flips town. Rinse and repeat.

But this time it becomes clear that Psyche's getting a little bolder; a little more comfortable with himself. He's only the (gasp!) *fourth* vote on Nobody Special, and he's followed by CF Riot, noraaa, and Pine is the hammer there.

Congratulations, another townie.

The next day, things aren't so easy. Psyche has a couple of votes on himself, and is even the leading wagon at one point, with 3 votes on him. BK's wagon grows and surpasses his though, 5-4. It's neck and neck coming around the final turn, both galloping and foaming as their jockeys do their damnedest, but Lucky Sevens manages to eke out a nose on The Back Nine in the final stretch, and BK201 finishes just milliseconds ahead of Psyche in a stunning upset. What a photo finish ladies and gentlemen!

Surprise. BK flips scum.

But the interesting part, which I had already predicted beforehand, was that Psyche and BK are scum together. The reasons Psyche quoted for voting BK were shit, and the reasons BK quoted for voting Psyche were pretty much nonexistent. It was pretty easy to piece the two together, given their interactions with each other throughout the game and the pattern of their voting.

For the record, Nightless games rule.

I will make it a point to join every single one I can from now on. They fucking rule for one reason. There's no danger of being night killed, and so you can say whatever the fuck you want and as long as people think you're town, you get to live forever because the only way scum can kill you is to mislynch you. So I can act however the fuck I want and not have to worry about attracting a night kill. Fuck yeah.

And the flip side of that is, scum don't have night times to sit there and discuss their play in private and get coaching sessions from more experienced scum buddies. So the dumb ones will obviously fall right away (redFF), the slightly less obvious ones will fall after a few misfires (Techno, I'm sorry, it had to be done. Nobody Special, you deserved it. Mogri, I knew you were town and tried to stop your lynch, but it was scum driven; and there's no doubt there because the proof is in the vote counts I posted), and then the final scum can be wrapped up into a nice neat little handbasket of FUCK YOU SCUM, DIE IN A FIRE, thanks to accumulated associative tells and vote/wagon analysis.

If you're not voting Psyche right now you're just being silly. And by silly, I mean you're being a fucking moron.

Good day.

[UberNinja]

By the by, UberNinja's ultimatum at the end of her last post reads as scared to me. Especially considering that she was defending and chainsawing for Psyche barely a few days ago.

Saying "If you're not
Keepin' on bringing that up, eh? Well I can't say I blame you. If town keeps lynching scum, whether there are two teams or not, there won't be much left now will there? And that's a scary thought... for scum.

Vote: Psyche

BK wasn't scummy kthanks.

BK was

scum

. I'm interested to know how you think that's not scummy?

Day One, I HAD to change to redff because of the momentum of the game. I was already losing interest and pating less attention to the thread. Where is the scummy there?

You only voted scum because you HAD to? uhhh

Day Two, I obviously was not paying attention at all. I would have stayed out of it altogether to avoid adding a badly informed element to it, but Techno had claimed scum! What townie doesn't vote a player who claims scum?!

Are you really saying that you would have avoided a townie lynch because you didn't want to look scummy, but then he claimed scum so you felt like you had a legitimate excuse? Because that's what I'm reading.

Day Three, my vote was a completely legit experimentation with the reliability of gut reads. I can't help that it was wrong. I had a read and I went with it. I don't see how it was scummy.

"I don't see how it was scummy?" You're using this game to experiment? At the end of the game, I'm not going to be happy with "well at least Psyche tested his gut reads;" I much rather to

win the game

. And you can't win the game by lynching town. Not to mention, someone with consistently wrong gut reads is either shamefully worse-than-random, or they're scum and they're trying to be wrong on purpose. And Mogri was so obviously town it was ridiculous.

Day Four, my reasons for voting BK were NOT bullshit. They were based on a huge sample of data (relative to the samples you guys use to draw your own conclusions) and upon the supposition that BK had committed a major scumtell, which he did.

Defending the reason you used the one time you actually voted for scum? Are you serious?

And about the last part. You do know they have daychat, right? Because it seems pretty clear that they used daychat to get you to draw these incorrect conclusions.

Pretty fucking sure this is a scum slip.

[UberNinja]

BK was

scum

. I'm interested to know how you think that's not scummy?

Scum=/=Scummy

just because a boy looks like a boy, does not mean it's a boy

could be a cross dresser

goddamnit hiraki

inte you just summed up my thoughts perfectly




also who do

you

think is scummy, inte?

[UberNinja]

Glad I could be of assistance.

Spoiler:

[UberNinja]

I'm willing to run that risk.

I'm interested to know why you feel the need to tell me that out loud, though.

[UberNinja]

Spoiler: UN: Psyche case pt 1.

And here's the case on Psyche since you're wondering. According to my vote count analysis, Psyche stayed on BBmolla for the whole fucking entirety of Day 1, and then hopped over to redFF when it seemed like a foregone conclusion that he'd be lynched.

redFF flipped scum. Rinse and repeat.

Psyche stayed off all wagons for the entirety of Day 2, never once having a vote anywhere other than the Not Voting category. At the very end of the day, he sees that the Techno lynch is a foregone conclusion yet again, and hops on with a well-timed hammer. Fantastic.

Techno flipped town. Rinse and repeat.

On day 3, Psyche was off all wagons until Mogri had 5 votes. On the wagon Psyche goes. Sixth vote and counting on Mogri. Followed swiftly by BK201 (what a surprise), and then a hammer.

Mogri also flips town. Rinse and repeat.

But this time it becomes clear that Psyche's getting a little bolder; a little more comfortable with himself. He's only the (gasp!) *fourth* vote on Nobody Special, and he's followed by CF Riot, noraaa, and Pine is the hammer there.

Congratulations, another townie.

The next day, things aren't so easy. Psyche has a couple of votes on himself, and is even the leading wagon at one point, with 3 votes on him. BK's wagon grows and surpasses his though, 5-4. It's neck and neck coming around the final turn, both galloping and foaming as their jockeys do their damnedest, but Lucky Sevens manages to eke out a nose on The Back Nine in the final stretch, and BK201 finishes just milliseconds ahead of Psyche in a stunning upset. What a photo finish ladies and gentlemen!

Surprise. BK flips scum.

But the interesting part, which I had already predicted beforehand, was that Psyche and BK are scum together. The reasons Psyche quoted for voting BK were shit, and the reasons BK quoted for voting Psyche were pretty much nonexistent.

Everything you mention here I pretty much agree with, and all point to Psyche scum. I don't believe it necessarily points to blue-scum however, given that Psyche's pattern of behavior against the two scum lynches is nearly identical to the other three town lynches.

It was pretty easy to piece the two together, given their interactions with each other throughout the game and the pattern of their voting.

This is somewhat vague and I'd like a little more detail. I still very much feel like Psyche is a lying scummy sucker (no offense Psyche), but I'm personally figuring on him being "red" and I don't see why you're betting blue. I also get waffley gut impressions that Pine may be scum as well, but his point about you flipping script on Psyche yesterday seems potentially legit.

P Edit: Pine's vote sucks. That waffle is leaning more scum right now. I agree with Nora that we should take advantage of our real time to discuss opinions and reads. Yesterday went too long with too little content, but the solution to that is not speed blasting Psyche.

Fun fact: I actually DID have a part in my post about Psyche also possibly being "red" scum, but I took it out eventually because it didn't jive with the vibes I've been getting from him, and also I'm very,

very

reluctant to believe that we had two competing wagons from separate scum teams at L-2 and/or L-1 yesterday, for so long, without hammers. I'm far more inclined to believe either that they were both on the same scum team (which is much likelier imo), or that it was 1 scum 1 town (in which case, both Psyche and I need to learn to play better). Either way I convinced myself somehow that they weren't on opposing scum teams, and so I chopped that part out of my post for reasons of clarity and so as not to minimize the actual scumminess with just a bunch of conjecture and guessing on my part.

why are there no hiraki takers

Hiraki I'm on the fence about, but your consistent whining "what about X", "what about Y" is leaving me with a bad taste in my mouth far more than anything Hiraki has done. I do agree he needs more attention/pressure though, as do you.

Pine and Hiraki have been holding hands on every wagon all game. I can hardly imagine I'm the only one that's noticed this. I wifom myself out of believing scum would be that obvious though.

I didn't notice, tbh, but DON'T allow yourself to WIFOM yourself out of it. Case in point: My VCA meta analysis of BK201 regarding the redFF wagons. Why NOT vote together? I'd still much rather lynch Pine than Hiraki, but if I have time I will ISO them together like I did for redFF and BK, and see what I can come up with.

i think at least one of them is scum and the psyche lynch is totally retarded (he's town)

No, it's really not totally retarded. But since you say it is, who would you rather see lynched?

You and crypto fall into the same boat for me. This doesn't mean you're the same alignment, it just means that you have the same general chance of being the particular alignment that the aforementioned boat has certain chances of being.

The boat is this: You're both sitting back, making posts that don't really accomplish anything, and appealing to people's emotions on a level that doesn't even feel like either of you are in the game. This may or may not be truer for one of you than the other, but it's what I'm noticing.

[UberNinja]

Things I noticed upon opening this thread:

1. opposition to Psyche wagon in the form of ignoring it
2. petapan calls out defender, inte, hiraki, and some others
3. out of all the scummy shit present, petapan picks the VI to vote
4. immediately crypto and noraaa jump on the defender wagon

So:

I agree the Defend3r slot has done little to nothing defensible as "good town play" this game. I liked Kairyuu's play for the most part, and he seemed pretty town, but Blonde and Defend3r aren't so great. However, both read (past and present tense) as VI though, not as scum to me.

Another thing: From petapan's posts last page, I would have definitely guessed he'd jump on inte as a counter-wagon, not on Defend3r. What gives, peta?

And of course I get the bad feelings in my tummy about crypto and noraaa immediately jumping onto what appears to be an up-and-coming viable wagon to the Psyche wagon. Defend3r is an "easy" lynch. And when people jump onto an "easy" lynch instead of a SCUM lynch, that sets off alarm bells. If Psyche doesn't flip scum, I'll be looking at the others on his wagon (particularly pine and inte). If he DOES flip scum, I see peta, crypto, and noraaa all as possible scum buddies. Which makes a lot more sense given that there are probably multiple scum teams and though however unprobably, Psyche may actually not be scum with BK and redFF. It would make a ton of sense for Psyche as another scum group having his team (or part of his team) immediately pile onto a counter-wagon of an "easy" lynch.

My two cents.

[UberNinja]

So, why Defend3r and not inte, petapan?

Your posts last page were way more damning of inte than of Defend3r.

[UberNinja]

you fucking idiot vote defender or i'm hammering you

That's pretty persuasive. Annoyingly.

vote D3

what the fuck is this shit

obv VI counter-wagon to scum counter-wagon is obv

[UberNinja]

obv VI counter-wagon to scum

counter-

wagon is obv

[UberNinja]

Wait, so you DO think Kairyuu redeemed the slot? Or no.

[UberNinja]

So, why Defend3r and not inte, petapan?

Your posts last page were way more damning of inte than of Defend3r.

they're both bad, i just didn't see it the way you see it

but if you're saying you would defect from the psyche wagon to lynch inte, then that lynch is preferable to me

No, Psyche is definitely preferable to inte.

[UberNinja]

(If I'm unvoted, I'll probably switch back to Pine.) >.>

So you admit that you have absolutely no interest in whether or not Defender is town, you're just voting him for survival reasons?

HOLY HELL WHY ISN'T THIS GUY GETTING LYNCHED

[UberNinja]

AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOWN, YOU SHOULD STILL REALIZE THAT YOUR LYNCH GOES 5000x TIMES FARTHER THAN DEFENDERS LYNCH BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING CONTROVERSIAL BAG OF DICKS AND SHOULD DIE IMMEDIATELY FOR THE GREATER GOOD

HOLY SHIT, ROCKET SCIENCE

[UberNinja]

unvote
vote: d3f3nd3r

anything to counter psyche and pine

"anything but psyche" <-- ONE SCUM

I'm down with that. I thought Blondie was just new and stupid, I thought Kairyuu was good with words and until he flaked (nearly immediately after running fast and hard on tech) wasn't really suspicious of him, but I haven't liked Defender's input at all. I don't think there's anything lost if we go in that direction. I'm not super into voting Psyche because I go back and forth on him too much. I think the lurkers need to get some more action than they have been getting.

vote defender

over-rationalizing a vote + "not too into voting Psyche" <-- POSSIBLY ANOTHER SCUM

you fucking idiot vote defender or i'm hammering you

That's pretty persuasive. Annoyingly.

vote D3

ANOTHER SCUM

UNVOTE:

VOTE: d3f3nd3r

This is where I'm going, right now. No longer see pine as being quite as scummy as those other guys after doing some reading. but in all seriousness i'm pissed that people are ignoring how bad these votes are

I've never seen Pine that scummy.

You bring up good points against Defender though. Like really amazing points.

Vote: Defender

I disagree that Kairyuu failed to redeem the slot, by the way, but Defender has been terrible and flew under the radar and I think he's the best bet of the on-BK-wagon vs. Off-BK-wagon scum that I was looking for early today.

complete parroting + it's our "best bet" <-- POSSIBLY ANOTHER SCUM




what the fuck is hard about this guys. it's a scum-driven counterwagon

[UberNinja]

AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOWN, YOU SHOULD STILL REALIZE THAT YOUR LYNCH GOES 5000x TIMES FARTHER THAN DEFENDERS LYNCH BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING CONTROVERSIAL BAG OF DICKS AND SHOULD DIE IMMEDIATELY FOR THE GREATER GOOD

HOLY SHIT, ROCKET SCIENCE

I think lynching Pine would go farther. Lynching me would only lead to WIFOM.

Unless you think my lynch would lead to Pine's death when I flip town...

NOT lynching you leads to wifom

any actual townie would see that

[UberNinja]

This whole "tunnel vision" thing is getting annoying.

Allow me to refer to this again, since it works so well as a response to your post:

you fucking idiot vote defender or i'm hammering you

That's pretty persuasive. Annoyingly.

vote D3

what the fuck is this shit

obv VI counter-wagon to scum counter-wagon is obv

Okay, I'm town, and I don't want to be lynched. Point out the incongruity in those two propositions.

No, it doesn't work well. AT ALL. You're either fucking retarded or you're scum.

If you're town and don't want to be lynched, you'd defend yourself with actual REASONS instead of just saying "herp derp I'mma vote the counterwagon"

[UberNinja]

if/when defender flips town, i get to sit on a massive pile of "i told you so" and lead every lynch from now on

BK flipped scum, JUST LIKE I FUCKING SAID HE WOULD

he tried to AtE his way out of it just like Psyche is

Y U NO LISTEN TO ME

[UberNinja]

What response do you want crypto?

And what is this "you little shit" shit?

[UberNinja]

I'm pretty sure I've defended myself with actual reasons throughout the game and will do so in the future.

See, there goes me defending myself with reasons right there. Should I go through my iso for more examples?

you saying you've defended yourself with reasons, is defending yourself with reasons?

what the fuck are

you

on

[UberNinja]

Wow that was a really bad post I just made sorry everyone

[UberNinja]

Wow that was a really bad post I just made sorry everyone

talking about 1887

[UberNinja]

what the fuck do you mean, "what response do you want"? i want a response that justifies your fucking rabid accusations that everyone who disagrees with you and counter-wagons your psyche wagon is scum, because given that there is likely only one more scum on bk's team and you are accusing psyche of being on bk's team it makes no sense for a second scum team to protect psyche.

okay
1. does it makes sense for a counter wagon to develop that quickly if psyche is town?
2. like i said, psyche may not BE scum with BK201 (as CF riot pointed out). so it'd make perfect fucking sense in that case
3. you're using the fact that I said they are scum together as a red herring for why this idiotic defender wagon is good

[UberNinja]

AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOWN, YOU SHOULD STILL REALIZE THAT YOUR LYNCH GOES 5000x TIMES FARTHER THAN DEFENDERS LYNCH BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING CONTROVERSIAL BAG OF DICKS AND SHOULD DIE IMMEDIATELY FOR THE GREATER GOOD

HOLY SHIT, ROCKET SCIENCE

Are you really trying to get me to self vote or otherwise accept my lynch. Is that really what you think the protown thing to do in this situation would be? What you would do as town in this situation?

The pro-town thing to do would be to analyze the defender wagon, not VOTE IT TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

[UberNinja]

i'm not a big fan of the defender wagon but it's the best there is

so that makes THREE "it's the best bet" along with this post by hiraki

UNVOTE:

VOTE: d3f3nd3r

This is where I'm going, right now. No longer see pine as being quite as scummy as those other guys after doing some reading. but in all seriousness i'm pissed that people are ignoring how bad these votes are

I've never seen Pine that scummy.

You bring up good points against Defender though. Like really amazing points.

Vote: Defender

I disagree that Kairyuu failed to redeem the slot, by the way, but Defender has been terrible and flew under the radar and I think he's the best bet of the on-BK-wagon vs. Off-BK-wagon scum that I was looking for early today.

and this post by psyche

Better wagon than mine.

[UberNinja]

In other words, the only reason people are voting Defender are because "well, it's not the Psyche wagon" and "because it's really not the Psyche wagon"

2 + 2 = scum driven counter-wagon

But then I'm preaching to the choir here. I want to know what people (besides the people I'm talking about) think of this ridiculousness.

[UberNinja]

actually, looking back at things, crypto's voting history fits perfectly with what i'd expect scum voting history to be

also looking back at the vote counts, i see that BK201 was hardcore on Psyche's wagon the whole time, which means they probably weren't scum together

which means that psyche is on a different scum team.

which means that this lightning defender wagon is a last ditch attempt to save psyche

it all makes sense now

[UberNinja]

(going to quote that post when CF riot hammers psyche)

if you think psyche is going to be hammered, then why haven't you hammered him?

DAMN IT PETA ARE YOU SCUM OR NOT

[UberNinja]

CF SAVES THE DAY

[UberNinja]

when psyche flips scum (*not-blue scum) it's time for crypto to die immediately

[UberNinja]

.......................

okay what the fuck

[UberNinja]

.......................

okay what the fuck

this is a really shit post though

hilarious how now that psyche flips town we get a big vanishing act though

well what the hell do you expect

esp. given:

at this point in the game it's only going to take a few idiots to let the non-blue scumteam run hog wild on every lynch so dumbasses who lynch obvtown need to step down and follow

[UberNinja]

also i'm re-reading, dumbass

[UberNinja]

cf riot does look a lot worse

but we still don't have a non-blue scum flip so i have no idea what to think on him. he could be town or he could be "red" scum

[UberNinja]

for the record i still think defender is town

[UberNinja]

hiraki's a damn sight better than defender

but i forgot about pine what with the defender bullshit

vote: Pine

[UberNinja]

In other words, the only reason people are voting Defender are because "well, it's not the Psyche wagon" and "because it's really not the Psyche wagon"

2 + 2 = scum driven counter-wagon

But then I'm preaching to the choir here. I want to know what people (besides the people I'm talking about) think of this ridiculousness.

hahah yeah it's definitely us that's on the scum-driven wagon and not you

VOTE: d3f3nder

we're doing this now. everyone ignore reapercharlie aka uberninja plz. CF riot will look like hell when defender flips scum, so he'll be lynched after that

i think uberninja might be our resident town-looking industrious scum because is reapercharlie actually bad enough to fos both psyche and tech in this game

wait what the fuck is this shit

for the last fucking time i am not reapercharlie





lol @ petapan accidentally revealing his alt though

[UberNinja]

crypto and max are probably not scum together. they wouldn't be aligning themselves so absolutely and linking themselves so indelibly through such public buddying

noraaa and pine could be scum together. they have both had a much lower profile recently.

cf riot is likely town, especially given the drubbing crypto just gave him. that's not scum dressing down a buddy, sounds like scum trying to character assassinate an obv-townie.

out of all of those, noraaa seems the one likeliest to be blue-scum

max miiiiiiight be town but i can't tell at this point. i need a re-read of him given this new info regarding psyche, bk, etc

[UberNinja]

i still don't see defender as scum btw

pine is the way to go as far as i'm concerned (his omgus vote on me is no surprise)

but since psyche was town, obviously nobody's gonna listen to me

[UberNinja]

lol, he calls me somebody i'm not but i can't call him somebody he is?

fuck you julie bird

[UberNinja]

>.<

You're doing it AGAIN.




And "fuck you julie bird" is from the movie Basic. Harry Connick Jr. says it to Connie Nielsen.

[UberNinja]

i wasn't being vague and nonspecific about it petapan

i dont think defender should be lynched. he reads as VI and not as scum to me

pine should be the one lynched. how the hell can you not see that.

[UberNinja]

pine is a player who might cooperate, you're not. That makes him more of an asset. I think one of you two is likely scum but you're not on the same team which makes me more sure on wanting to burn (defender, hiraki, inte, CF Riot) and go from there. frankly my suspicion of pine isn't as strong right now as it is of other people and lmfao if you think you have any ability to persuade me to sheep you on a lynch right now reapercharlie

first, "more likely to cooperate" is exactly what scum thinks about when deciding which of two town to kill. the one who's less likely to cooperate with them

second, i told you to stop calling me that; i'm reporting you if you do it again. i don't know you and I don't know reapercharlie, step back off this, dude

[UberNinja]

pine, UN isn't getting lynched today. I swear, swear, swear I will be amenable to it if we get a scumflip out of defender but we need 2 more votes and there's a lot of vague nonspecific resistance to lynching him, don't know if you've noticed

you don't think i'm scum unless defender is scum? how does that make sense?

[UberNinja]

I could go defender or hiraki.

vote defender

UN, thank you for showing us all indisputably how bad you are at reading people. For like, the one or two people it wasn't obvious to.

i was right about BK and mogri you moron

[UberNinja]

way to take no stance on probably the most controversial and hard-to-lynch player in the game

way to attack a VI newbie and ask for others to join you

either you're scum or you're a FUCKING LAZY townie, thanks for clearing that up max

[UberNinja]

Aren't you curious as to why defender hasn't come in at all to.. defend.. himself?

I see what you did there.

[UberNinja]

Shit, at least throw me a bone Defender... D:

I...


I.....

[UberNinja]

Why?

[UberNinja]

i'm really, really not seeing how that is anything other than pure unadulterated derptown in the purest sense

[UberNinja]

crypto are you town? yes or no

i need a straight answer

[UberNinja]

unvote
vote: d3f3nd3r

anything to counter psyche and pine

Please explain your town read on pine again. because I really don't see it

[UberNinja]

He's trying to figure out where he made a mistake. Town Defender wouldn't be thinking "Oh crap I made a mistake," he'd be trying to figure out who the scum are.

you're right, defender-town totally wouldn't challenge the accusations leveled at him when he's at l-2

mafiascum.net

That's not what I said. At all. His comment was self-concerned, not outwardly-concerned. It was "Oh crap, did I make a mistake?" not "Screw you people, I've been lurky but I'm Town. Here's who's actual scum."

Town generally don't fight their own lynch to the exclusion of all else, they go down swinging.

now you're just twisting the tone of his post

well, do you think he's scum or don't you?

how about this crypto. we lynch pine, and when he flips scum, you sheep me for the rest of the game

IF, IF, IF he flips town, I sheep you for the rest of the game

[UberNinja]

that is how sure I am

[UberNinja]

how did all the love for me evaporate when psyche flipped town? wtf

[UberNinja]

gonna go commit suicide now

v/la unti

[UberNinja]

crypto

come pine w/me

[UberNinja]

Da fuk?

Whatever. Put your money where your mouth is, and let's lynch Defender. I've made peace with the likelihood that I'm going to get railroaded eventually, so one more opinion against me means little. What does is getting scum lynched before I go.

this absolutely fucking reeks of "red" scum wanting to finish off blue scum before his own death

kill this with fire, i tell you

WITH FIRE

[UberNinja]

Hiraki I think it's interesting that you and I are the only two people (I think) who aren't against inte. Which makes me want to reevaluate my town read on him but he's not on the block today so if he's still alive and i'm still alive when I get back Monday then we'll see what's up then.

here's what I think about inte:

inte struck me as dumb at first, but then i felt like he had some kind of deviousness because of the way he trolled NS early on. i had him as a null read leaning town, but hate null reads so i put him as town in my mind unless he did something scummy. after that, comments he made about you and hiraki both set me off, and i started feeling like he was scum with one or both of you, but it was never more than a fleeting feeling and he's been relatively under-the-radar until now, going with the flow and not making too many ripples. i literally have almost no footprint of him in my mind.

going by the VCA, the amount of time he's not voting, or is voting for nobody special, is amazing. but then at the last second he switches over to hammer redFF, possibly to gain town cred and distance from the blue scum team.

I agree that psyche's "research" is a bit scummy, but inte and pine are overall scummier.

this post as well is pure WIFOM

now which one is his buddy? you decide.

also, i asked him in post 1812 who he thought was scummy, and all i've gotten from him since then is:

i have to prod dodge and shit, finals week

you cocklickers holy shit i have finals and cant read slow down

.................

UN, Hiraki or Pine but not both, Noraaa, & Peta but not really cause I'm probably wrong about Def. UN or Def being the last blue.

Nora you still think UN is town?

pedit, I'm still meh about it but Inte is less scum to me than he was earlier.

out of all the people left in the game you pick ME as being BLUE scum? like, with BK and redFF? are you on CRACK?

if anything I'd be the other team man. yeah right am i gonna champion a BK201 lynch and leave myself alone when I could push a lynch on some idiot like Defender instead.

seriously. wat

So there's two ways to read what Defender said. Either "where did I mess up?" or "show me what I said that you're construing as a scumtell?"


And depending on which side you read it as when you read it, you're going to think he's scummy or townie, and you're going to think anyone who read it the other way is scummy. I know that I personally would say something like the second one, but I'd word it more closely to how I did word it than to how he worded it. Which makes his original statement still so vague. I think that the general flow of that slot has been bad and it's not super likely that three people in a row would set off so many alarms if they were a town slot. Therefore I'm pretty content to stick with the hypothesis that Defender is scum.

i'm in the second group.

and i want to hear more from Defender and less from everyone who's NOT Defender

So crypto, I'm really interested to know why you're so averse to pummeling the BK201 wagon into the ground.

Really, really interested.

this too. sup, crypto?

please explain why you didn't have a scum read on him

So, let me get this straight...you think I'm buddies with BK, who you think was buddies with RedFF...so you're suggesting that in a sixteen-player game, we have two scumteams of three each, making the starting numbers 10 v 3 v 3?

Unlikely. Try again.

going back and seeing this post also makes me wonder A LOT

why the hell is 10v3v3 unlikely? IT ISN'T. IT'S TERRIBLY LIKELY. this looks to me like somebody who's scum trying to make townspeople think the scum teams are smaller than they ACTUALLY are, so they'll let their guard down and think they'll have more mislynches than they ACTUALLY have...

...in other words,

MAJOR FUCKING FOS OF DESTRUCTION: PINE

or you could just vote him and lets be done with it

[UberNinja]

12-2-2 is more the norm than 10-3-3?

sure buddy

[UberNinja]

huh? i'm playing with the assumption there are two scum teams. i am also playing with the assumption that non-blue (assuming red) scum has 2 more players than blue scum

i just showed where you scum slipped
and now you're trying to say i did?

loooooooool

[UberNinja]

huh? i'm playing with the assumption there are two scum teams. i am also playing with the assumption that non-blue (assuming red) scum has 2 more players than blue scum

i just showed where you scum slipped
and now you're trying to say i did?

loooooooool

No, actually, you didn't. You called me a specific color, and I'm wondering how you would know that I'm not the other one. Town has no insight into what color a scummy person is, except by associative tells, and you didn't cite any. I don't believe you ever have, in fact, not against me. So we come again, what caused you to assign a specific color to me? Is it that you're red, and therefore any other scum, as you seem to believe me to be,

must

be the last blue?

See? That's a color assignment based on actual inference, and logical as well.

Also, please point out this supposed scumslip I made. This is the first you've mentioned it.

Vote: UberNinja

yes, I said it sounds like you're red scum trying to lynch blue scum
as in, trying to kill off the last member of a scum team before you die

it didn't sound like someone from the (now) smaller scum team trying to take one last potshot at a big scum team before they lose

it sounded like someone from a bigger scum team trying to finish off the last member of a scum team before they die themselves (with the satisfaction of knowing that they were able to get the last member of a scum team lynched)

that is what i'm saying.

[UberNinja]

in fact, the only way what i said could

possibly

be construed as a scum slip would be if I was

BLUE

scum (i.e. accidentally revealing the info that you WERE NOT on my scum team)... but in your post 2085 you have me listed as

RED

scum with defender. so that makes no sense.

re: defender, there is

no fucking way

I would defend defender if i thought he was scum, holy fucking shit. his iso was a trainwreck and i misread him as newb town instead of newb scum, but it'd be the stupidest thing in the world for a scum buddy to defend him instead of just bussing the shit out of him for town cred.


tl;dr
a) the "scum slip" i made, according to pine, points to me as BLUE scum exclusively, NOT as red scum
b) still, he has me listed as RED scum, even though was on both blue lynches and championed BK201s

c) it makes NO FUCKING SENSE for ANYBODY on red scum to defend defender



conclusion:

pine is scum and is trying to use this "town momentum" along with me being wrong about psyche and defender (IN A ROW ) to try to get a mislynch on me and it is scummy as fuck

[UberNinja]

red flip. pretty swaggin so that leaves like 1 blue and 2 red right

@UberNinja

why would you assume that there are more (now confirmed) red than blue? In a nightless (with only goon/VT flips so far) it would seem more logical to have even amount

i assume there are 3 of each, so at that point there was 3 red left and 1 blue left, and now there are 2 red and 1 blue left

what's hard to understand?

[UberNinja]

@ pine:

question #1: why would i refuse to vote defender vocally if i was his scumbuddy

question #2: why are you pretending like my "scum slip" now means i was red scum when in reality it could only be construed to mean i was blue scum in ANY WAY

question #3: town, why the fuck are you listening to pine for any goddamn reason?

[UberNinja]

this is so fucking frustrating

[UberNinja]

sadly i know nobody is going to listen to me

after i die, lynch pine

[UberNinja]

...

will somebody answer my fucking questions?

oh right... you can't

[UberNinja]

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[UberNinja]

Oh yeah one last thing. Uberninja deserves major cred for getting tech and psyche lynched even if it crucially benefited the wrong scum team

ty... but i fear it was not enough. i should have bussed the shit out of defender, he was beyond worthless and he was the sole reason for our downfall.

well played petapan, but i was pretty sure you were scum by about day 6 but the buddying between you and crypto was so strong and my town cred had grown so thin that i was hoping someone else would point it out. i mean it was pretty obvious when everyone was sheeping me for psyche's death (both scum teams knew it was a town lynch) and then the immediate un-sheeping of me in order to lynch defender. i knew 100% that one of crypto/peta was scum at that point, and was heavily heavily leaning peta because crypto was just too inno-sounding

i actually thought pine was scum w/peta, and not inte. well played, inte. i also have to give credit to pine for staying alive so long even in the face of what seemed like sure death for so long. very nice.

i think pine and possibly inte are the only ones on blue team that deserve this win. the rest can go suck a dick. well, not bk. he was cool. but he was just a little too obv and i hope he learned from his mistakes. but redff can suck it long and hard. and so can defender.

all of my scum buddies were more or less worthless, they never mentioned each other except hiraki hard-bussing matias out the gate (or vice versa, i forget which. anyway, that was good) and it's only fair that we lost with such horrible, average play all around.

moral of the story is:

bus the shit out of your fucking stupid teammates (only leave the smart ones alive) instead of trying to "mistakenly" white knight them and go "oops sorry i really had no idea they were scum"... yea that doesn't work out so well.

good game, mostly everyone. ty as well to ythan, this one was real fun

[UberNinja]

oh the no daytalk complicated things so much because i wanted to yell at my teammates. a lot.

this. fucking this

oh my god what a shambles my scumteam was

raaaaaaaaaaage