Weather Mafia II (GAME OVER)

[UberNinja]

Damn, I just tried to ISO snifit to see who he suspected. But... but... NOOOOOOO

Anyway, I have to re-read, and I don't have the files w/me on this computer.

For now, I'll proxy my vote to Tierce cause she's almost as badass as me.

[UberNinja]

^ I don't even remember you being in the game. But I like that post a lot.

Vote: Singersigner

[UberNinja]

>_> I replaced farside. We wagoned UT. It was good times.

Ohhhh yea I vaguely remember farside replacing out. Damn that sucks.
But since you're being about as awesome as she was... w00t I guess?

[UberNinja]

Oh hey UN is not a doublevoter in this weather condition. We can rest easier now.

By "we" do you mean "I"?

Oh, yeah: these two pages aren't showing the Shadoweh I know and love.

Do elaborate.

[UberNinja]

Benmage, do you have more shots? If so, shoot Yosarian2 please.

[UberNinja]

Tierce is conf not-blue. I also don't think she's red.

Therefore she is town enough to me that it's not worth my time thinking about it right now.

Whatcha think of Yos2, Staeg?

[UberNinja]

I like pineapple too, Porochaz.

Unvote; Vote: Staeg

[UberNinja]

Does anyone think Nuwen replaced out because BBmolla (her scumbuddy) flipped scum and it made her look bad? How common is behavior like that?

I'd really like people who aren't caught up to catch up, though. Not everyone's posted, and there are a couple people I'd like to hear from in particular.

Who, in particular?

DGB is town

Why? If it's him saying, "scum detected" he did that plenty right off the bat in a previous game I played with him and he was scum.

This post is good, good, good. Add MattP to your town lists people.
It doesn't necessarily mean anything either way about DGB though.

Oh shit I forgot to bookmark the new thread. Read these (thankfully few) pages tomorrow!!

Looked at the flips and I think it's interesting that snifit is a cyborg; would that qualify as organic or inorganic? He didn't have either qualifier (and neither does my role).

It's interesting because yesterday, kuribo claimed to be human and therefore organic. I think that's probably the case, whatever his alignment. Kuribo, do you have an organic qualifier?

Is anyone else's character something that is organic and town?

Its not the fishing of this post that led me to quote it and re-confirmed my scumread.

Its the forced tone of it. "Oh shit I forgt to bookmark! Reading this tomorrow!!" double exlamation marks are scummy and ingeniune.


Then she goes on to set-up speculate? Of all the things to post she cares about flips and whether shit is organic or not? The FUCK does that matter?

Do you see any sign of scumhunting in this post? Any SEMBLANCE of reads from yesterday or today?

Yeah.

No.

It dies.

I want to have this post's babies. Fate is so town. Soooo town.
Still not sold on Amrun but I'm coming around. #161 is bad.


UT is continuing to not make sense. I'm down for a UT lynch any time any where.

[UberNinja]

UT is continuing to not make sense.

bitch you wouldn't know sense if it crawled up your ass and made love to your liver

quiet you

[UberNinja]

Ahhh yes, that's why I suspected hasdgfas: because I looked up his past games, saw that game, and then when I asked if he'd faked anything before (because he's playing dumb this game), nobody mentioned that game for a long time.

Where is he, anyway? Did he replace out?

[UberNinja]

I was pretty confident Amrun was obvtown even before she played such a big role in driving the BB-wagon all the way to a lynch. No way we're lynching her today.

That's funny I remember you spending most of Day 1 saying how scummy she was for joking that she was scum; to the tune of nearly ignoring most everyone else in the game.

Funny how you don't seem to remember that little detail.

[UberNinja]

Nope Yos, I haven't re-read Day 1. I guess I misrepped you eh. mb

No Amrun, I don't have a doublevote today.

[UberNinja]

Why the ##?

[UberNinja]

Force of habit.

From what?

[UberNinja]

Slow game is slow.

[UberNinja]

I'm a cyborg mutant queen killing machine with metal pincers.

[UberNinja]

You say you don't care how much I tried to get BB lynched, and then go, "but she said she did!" I DID ride the wagon hard - from start to finish - took crap for it on SEVERAL different occasions (good job totally ignoring the wagons on me that sprouted up mostly as a result of my bb pushes, good job there), and I stated varied reasons why he was scum. My initial vote for him was weak reasons + gut, but his reactions to the wagon, and my reactions to that, showed pretty organically why I rightly believed him to be scum.

This is a prime example of that "re-creating history" thing I was talking about. You're talking totally out of your ass. None of the things you've asserted have been true, for example calling me a lurker when I was probably the singularly most active player of Day 1 and had a metric fuckton of posts. As for BBmolla tailoring his play to you: I still don't see it, and if you claim that it wouldn't be obvious to anyone but you, why are you using that as if it should be a commonly understood fact that makes you town? How ridiculous.

Tierce provided examples supporting her argument. Surely you can do the same?

[UberNinja]

Okay, no, I'll just say that I'm completely incapable of reading singer, amrun and matt

Matt is town.

[UberNinja]

Shadoweh, you know I'd love to vote you and all, but I'm not done wih reading the game.
I COULD vote you, but what would be the benefit if I changed the vote a few hours later?

Confirm Vote: Staeg

This is all kinds of awful.

[UberNinja]

People are human. People like to take credit and gloat for being right.

See my comment towards a dead Reck.

There's zero strategic reasoning not to gloat as town. There is as scum.

I did, and it was scummy as fuck because you outed yourself for no reason. The only reason you'd be perfectly fine outing yourself (essentially "confirming" yourself as town, as it seemed to do), is if you knew you couldn't be NKed (by being on the night killing team), which town had no way of knowing.

There's 2 scum teams. This only works if there's only one.

[UberNinja]

Shadoweh, you know I'd love to vote you and all, but I'm not done wih reading the game.
I COULD vote you, but what would be the benefit if I changed the vote a few hours later?

Confirm Vote: Staeg

This is all kinds of awful.

Do tell

Only scum look for reasons not to vote somebody they "suspect"...

Another way to look at it: Scum threatens to vote, town just votes and has done with it.

You are scum.

[UberNinja]

Tierce, I am technologically retarded and have NO IDEA how to quote from that thing.

ctrl+c ctrl+v

What's more, I DON'T CARE.

There's nothing I really care to prove because I don't think I've said anything that isn't just basic truth and general knowledge

There's nothing I really care to prove because I don't think I've said anything that isn't just basic truth and general knowledge

Awesome

I'm tickled that the one preaching ctrl+c ctrl+v hasn't even mastered it yet himself.

[UberNinja]

Tierce, I am technologically retarded and have NO IDEA how to quote from that thing.

ctrl+c ctrl+v

What's more, I DON'T CARE.

There's nothing I really care to prove because I don't think I've said anything that isn't just basic truth and general knowledge

There's nothing I really care to prove because I don't think I've said anything that isn't just basic truth and general knowledge

Awesome

I'm tickled that the one preaching ctrl+c ctrl+v hasn't even mastered it yet himself.

because....I've never quoted anything? not really sure what you mean here

Never mind, it went over your head.

[UberNinja]

don't condescend to me fuckface

[UberNinja]

I say we just lynch this guy. ^

[UberNinja]

So, which of my posts is the useful one?

[UberNinja]

I like Fate and Tierce a lot, but there's

no way

I'm getting on a wagon with singersigner, UT, kuribo, and Staeg.

And that stands for ANY wagon.

Why am I not the least bit surprised Shadow and Yosarian are on the Katsuki wagon.

Explain?

[UberNinja]

No, I meant explain about Shadoweh and Yosarian being on the Katsuki wagon.

[UberNinja]

Yosariaqn and Shadow are both scumreads of mine.

Katsuki is the EPIOTME of a vote-park wagon, one you can sit on and the person can fight back. One you can sit on and when asked why you say "well look at his shit ISO. He's done nothing but lurk."

A Katsuki vote SCREAMS "I WANT2COAST PLZ" Its also a very appealing mislynch I'm sure both scumteams would be happy to go for, (I always get around to mislynching Katsuki when I'm scum. Its just a matter of when its most convenient a day for it.)

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

[UberNinja]

@mod: Poro has posted three times and in fact posted yesterday.

"I like pineapple", "Going off the grid for St Patty's day", etc, don't really count.

[UberNinja]

My past self did a lot of voting for UN, I like that move. The blaming Nuwen is not a move I like in these 14 pages.

vote UN

The one thing I can remember from the first day was that singer was off. DGB's case on Staeg is also interesting.

Im just going onto page 9.

lol, if this isn't the definition of a useless vote I don't know what is...

[UberNinja]

Amrun, have you figured out what is "off" about kuribo yet?

[UberNinja]

MattP, what's your opinion on Staeg?

[UberNinja]

if that katsuki wagon were any more obvious, it'd have people saying "im only voting katsuki to save amrun"

So, who's ready to vote Yos with me now?

[UberNinja]

More like this:


"hayyy guys lets lynch yos he's scum"
"no idiot stfu"
"fine w/e i'll do other stuff then"
"no just stfu"
...
time passes
...
"omfg amrun is scum and yos is trying to save her"
"told u yos was scum lets wagon him"
"STFU"

[UberNinja]

Amrun... how is asking you to follow up on YOUR OWN side-sniping, considered side-sniping? I'm just keeping you honest. That said, you calling me scum actually makes me more likely to think you're town. Most scum would just back off me and call me town for my double vote. Beyond that, I've no intention of voting for you at the present time. I'm much more interested in a Staeg lynch.

[UberNinja]

I haven't done any side sniping.

In my experience people are more likely to be vague about why they feel someone is scum, if they themselves are scum. Your "something about kuribo is... off" is a capital example of what I am talking about. They want to plant seeds of suspicion without committing themselves to anything.

Why do you think Staeg is scum, and Nuwen?

Same reasons as DGB. Nuwen was shifty in a way I can't describe but Staeg is outright scummy.

Whatever happened to your push on Yosarian?

You mean this, less than a page ago?

if that katsuki wagon were any more obvious, it'd have people saying "im only voting katsuki to save amrun"

So, who's ready to vote Yos with me now?

[UberNinja]

I knew you'd bring that up, but I posted it anyway cause it was the truth. Yours rang of truth to me too, which is why I asked if you'd figured it out yet. Not sure how that's hard to understand. I just didn't want to give you a free pass as scum to make comments like that and not follow up on them.

[UberNinja]

Ok, well, I have no case on Yosarian2. So, there's that.

[UberNinja]

You're probably both town, or both scum on the same team. Either way this shit-slinging is getting the rest of us nowhere quick.

Let's lynch Yosarian or Staeg. Staeg is my second choice, but is the most viable at this juncture. Make shit happen.

[UberNinja]

Hell no because Shadow replaced farside who was obv town and lynching ex-farside is not kosher comprende?

Vote Staeg bitch.

[UberNinja]

Yep.

[UberNinja]

Seems pretty straightforward an assumption to me.

News flash Untrod: I'm not getting lynched today so you might as well stop picking a fight with Shadoweh and put your vote somewhere useful like Staeg.

[UberNinja]

Yeah except his reason was even farther from illogical than you are from enlightenment...

[UberNinja]

Mulling on this game in the shower yields the following ScumBB meta results:

- Amrun not Scumbag team
- Benmage not Scumbag team

NO SHIT, SHERLOCK.

Also, your vote on me is... erroneous at best.

[UberNinja]

I assume most people aren't because he's a Sunny Weather Doublevoter. I'm not because Reck wanted him dead. I can't recall if BB did, I think he did but I'd have to check the original thread.

The first part is just fluff, the second part is meaningless. Reck wanting him dead doesn't make him town, and if you "can't recall" if BB wanted him dead you should either just prove it or not mention it.

Immediately after Reck gets vigged Molla suggests Reck was bussing UN. >_> So yeah. That's why he's not scum.

How does that prove that?

Sooooo two scum from seperate teams trying to push a lynch onto someone doesn't indicate a mislynch in your opinion? I know this is hard for you since you presented almost the exact same case as Reck against UN, but seriously.

BB had the benefit of knowing there was another scumteam and that UN wasn't 'cleared'. In my opinion he went to push him, realized he shouldn't 'suspect' him because only one team was known at the time, and went for someone else.

As for the part about scum not wanting to agree with people, I don't know how you came to that mafia theory. Blending into the crowd is what mafia do.

Kuribo: I have no idea how to read Katsuki in the first place. I haven't seen a post from Staeg that gives me a town read. I admit I might be biased against Staeg for jumping in accusing me and then sheeping to the wagon I believe is on town.

Yosarian, can you answer what I asked you earlier?

Join you? No.

Can you list out your current reads? It sounds like you still think Amrun is scum but you don't seem to want to vote her. I'd also like to know why you kept your vote on Tierce and stated you didn't want to be on either of the wagons, when you'd stated a few times you wanted to lynch either BBmolla or Tierce. I don't think it was because you were on V/LA, you did stop in to post a few times.

Yeahhhhh, uh, there's no way Shadow is scum guys.

Remind me why we aren't lynching UberNinja. Something about role, right?

NO! We can lynch uber! Join me!

Day 1 only double voter doesn't mean shit.

Fine screw you too!

</3

NO! We can lynch uber! Join me!

Join you? No.

Can you list out your current reads? It sounds like you still think Amrun is scum but you don't seem to want to vote her. I'd also like to know why you kept your vote on Tierce and stated you didn't want to be on either of the wagons, when you'd stated a few times you wanted to lynch either BBmolla or Tierce. I don't think it was because you were on V/LA, you did stop in to post a few times.

Could you quote what you are referring to at the end here? I have no idea what you mean.

I'm comfortable lynching Amrun/UberNinja right now. Can't really give you other reads because I don't have them anymore.

So you don't want to join Amrun in lynching me, buuuuut.... you're comfortable lynching me?

Um. What.

And I modded UN's newbie in which he was scum and he was the most active poster.

Now, now. You of all people should know better.

I'm not participating in the lynch of a doublevoter on day 2

will settle for a Staeg lynch. would prefer a Shadoweh lynch but am still comfortable with an Amrun lynch.

But you would have lynched me on Day 1? Wow, nice.

You're a fucking walking contradiction UT. I'm really not sure how you haven't been lynched yet.

In fact, I'll claim now since there's not much I can do to hide my role. Sans flavor, I'm a Town Doublevoter. Nothing extra special, no night powers, nothing affected by weather (except conditions that affect all actions), and most definitely a good guy.

So for those who didn't notice. Yeah. My vote counts for two.
Accounting for our heat advisory and Reckoner's death, by my count we only need eight votes to lynch someone, if I'm on the wagon.

Secondly, regarding the "Organic", my character is a robot (i.e. not organic). So I think the difference here is that certain weather conditions (or, conversely, certain town and/or mafia abilities) only affect robots, or only affect organics. I find it highly doubtful that there are two scum teams now. I'd venture that there's also at least one more "type" of people, hypothetically "spirit" of some kind, because of the Navi, Will-o-the-Wisp role from last game. Whatever that'd be called, at any rate, if not "spirit".

Thirdly, I accidentally lied about my partial claim earlier. My double vote is affected by certain weather changes. I only get one vote on Thunderstormy days. I forgot about that until I read my role PM again.

This slot needs purging with fire, especially given his behavior regarding BBmolla. He was fine with voting pretty much anyone but that slot, dodged it like the plague, and was pleading with me to vote UT over BBmolla:

Tierce, let BB live for a day and vote for Untrod Tripod. Re-channel your hate.
If BBmolla doesn't vastly improve, and/or if Untrod Tripod flips town, I'll join you.

I thought BB was town, it's as simple as that.

This was based on playing w/him before myself, and also based on your "OMFG HE IS SO FUCKING TOWN GUYS" case for his town-ness.

There are few things that newbscum love more than labeling two arguing players as town, because it makes them look like the appeasing voice of reason. Yesterday, he called me and BB town:

Tierce is probably town. Unfortunately I think BBmolla is town too.

Today we're back to this BS, now with Fate and kuribo:

You're probably both town, or both scum on the same team. Either way this shit-slinging is getting the rest of us nowhere quick.

Let's lynch Yosarian or Staeg. Staeg is my second choice, but is the most viable at this juncture. Make shit happen.

These are completely random statements. There is not an inch of scumhunting in his posts, regarding me, regarding BBmolla, regarding Fate, regarding kuribo.

These aren't random.

I thought BB was town.

I also think that EITHER Fate+kuribo are town, OR they're both scum, putting on a show.

UberNinja is scum sitting on his occasional doublevote that oh-so-suddenly became weather-variable, hoping he won't ever have to present results.

What do you mean "oh-so-suddenly" became weather variable? I told you that Day 1.

It's not like I just pulled that out of my ass as soon as I found out that I couldn't doublevote on Day 2, and then expected people to believe it. I gave plenty of advance notice that my second vote (according to my PM) only does NOT work on "Thunderstormy" days.

What's suspect about fixing my claim? If I was scum and that was a fake claim I would have made sure to get it perfect.

I mean, wouldn't you?

Point being: you're fulla shit guuuuurl.

[UberNinja]

Yeah exactly.

[UberNinja]

Different sides of the same coin. Whatever.

[UberNinja]

That's because it is in my favor.

Scum wouldn't be modifying their claims, they'd make sure to get it right the first time. Conversely, a townie would have no reason to fear doing it.

I clarified that they made a mistake in the interest of transparency and honesty.

[UberNinja]

That's because it is in my favor.

Scum wouldn't be modifying their claims, they'd make sure to get it right the first time. Conversely, a townie would have no reason to fear doing it.

I clarified that

they made a mistake

in the interest of transparency and honesty.

Emphasis mine.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a scumclaim. "They" shows the role was discussed in a scumteam QT.

"They" should say "I". Obviously.

[UberNinja]

http://youtu.be/bV6iTMaLquw

[UberNinja]

oh my bad. I forgot the [sarcasm] tags sorry

[UberNinja]

Lol, hell yes I'm being flippant. What else do you

expect

me to be?

There's no legit case on me (this case was rebutted here), and the people that are voting me are doing it because they think I post too much and/or they're scum and don't want a possible doublevoter ("possible" because who knows how many thunderstormy days there will be) in endgame with them especially if they know they can't control me.

Yeah, I'm an easy lynch because I'm newer, and it's obvious that the people on my wagon (namely kuribo and Untrod Tripod) just want to get rid of me, not because they think I'm scum, but because they don't like my posting style. Which is semi-fine with me, because if you don't want me in the game then I don't want to be in the game. If people let me know that en masse, I'd replace out and let somebody else take over, and everyone would benefit.

But lynching a town slot just because you're annoyed is playing against the spirit of the game, and that's not too cool now is it?

And again, how the hell else do you expect me to respond? To be honest, I don't think I'll be lynched anyway.

[UberNinja]

And for what it's worth, I

have

been somewhat trying not to be as much of an annoying bitch when posting.

Yeah, I could still do better, but I

did

notice the complaints and tried to modify my behavior accordingly.

So there's that.

[UberNinja]

Well it appears a foregone conclusion that I'll be lynched.
So, here's my opinion on people (somewhat based on my wagon, somewhat not).

Porochaz - scummier than before...
hasdgfas - scummy all game
Shadoweh - town
DrippingGoofball - town
Amrun - not sure... leaning town
Thestatusquo - probably town
Yosarian2 - scummy
Untrod Tripod - I changed my mind. probably town
Katsuki - ??? much nothing to go on
Tierce - probably town
singersigner - not sure about, leaning scummier
Fate - probably town
kuribo - not sure about either, but worth lynching at lylo
Benmage - probably town
kondi2424 - town
Staeg - scummy

I would not lynch kondi, Shadoweh, or DrippingGoofball if you paid me.
I most prefer to lynch Staeg, Yosarian, cow, and Porochaz.

[UberNinja]

What exactly IS the scum slip anyway? Because I said "they" instead of "I"? That was a typo.

[UberNinja]

<3 DGB and TSQ

[UberNinja]

You've seen my scum play before, haven't you Amrun?

Have I ever been at all reluctant to vote for my scum buddies? No.
So does Tierce's argument make any sense or hold any water? No.

Are you basing your "all of his suspects are bad and I know he's capable of better" on Mini 1296 where I called the scum on Day 2?
Because you should also remember how nobody listened to me, and lynched me instead? And then town went on to lose spectacularly.

kuribo is also on my wagon this game, and the reasons for voting me are JUST as horrible this game.

2+2=samesies.

[UberNinja]

it's not just the scumslip

he didn't want to get on the BBM wagon
he didn't seem to know what his own role was
as he himself pointed out, he modified his behavior specifically when asked (i would say to draw less attention)
when questioned, his only defense was "scum fear me and town hate me"
he has been more than willing to call people basically confirmed towb
he said me vs. Fate was town vs. Town: this and the above are common scum tactics resulting in the fact that they can't paint everyone as scum

none of this is concrete evidence by itself, but put together, you don't even need the scumslip to see he is scum

I'm about to start the ass end of my fourth double shift in six days but in the meantime THE MOTHERFUCKING PROSECUTION RESTS

Wow kuribo, I'm impressed.

This is

almost

as good as your case against me in Mini 1296 where you replaced in and lost the whole fucking game for town by lynching ME, the only player who actually suspected the actual scum, and then went on to defend scum the entire game, and lynch townies who even dared to suspect them.

Oh wait, nope: You're a complete fucking tool, not to mention a pretentious asshole.

And the way you continue to talk about your irregular work schedule (including putting it in your sig) is proof of your need to feel a sense of self-worth and a continued appeal to the masses for some sense of approval. If you don't like that shit, find a better job asshole.

The "MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSE" rests.

[UberNinja]

Fuck, that felt good to post.

Kuribo is an asshole who is wrong more often than not, and nobody tells him to his face what a cunt he is.

Anyway, someone hammer me now.

Fuck you, kuribo.

[UberNinja]

Also, Amrun, if you're town, I expected better.

If you're scum though, <3 and I'll get you next time.

[UberNinja]

it's not just the scumslip

he didn't want to get on the BBM wagon
he didn't seem to know what his own role was
as he himself pointed out, he modified his behavior specifically when asked (i would say to draw less attention)
when questioned, his only defense was "scum fear me and town hate me"
he has been more than willing to call people basically confirmed towb
he said me vs. Fate was town vs. Town: this and the above are common scum tactics resulting in the fact that they can't paint everyone as scum

none of this is concrete evidence by itself, but put together, you don't even need the scumslip to see he is scum

I'm about to start the ass end of my fourth double shift in six days but in the meantime THE MOTHERFUCKING PROSECUTION RESTS

Wow kuribo, I'm impressed.

This is

almost

as good as your case against me in Mini 1296 where you replaced in and lost the whole fucking game for town by lynching ME, the only player who actually suspected the actual scum, and then went on to defend scum the entire game, and lynch townies who even dared to suspect them.

Oh wait, nope: You're a complete fucking tool, not to mention a pretentious asshole.

And the way you continue to talk about your irregular work schedule (including putting it in your sig) is proof of your need to feel a sense of self-worth and a continued appeal to the masses for some sense of approval. If you don't like that shit, find a better job asshole.

The "MOTHERFUCKING DEFENSE" rests.

And yes I realize this is hypocritical especially considering I was the one who asked the mod to ask kuribo to tone down the hateful language.

But I just don't care at this moment, sorry to the mod and other players for letting my anger get the best of me.

[UberNinja]

Alright kuribo I'll play your game...

So when I flip town, who's scum? lol

[UberNinja]

[UberNinja]

Oh yeah I forgot, it's full claim time.

I am Johnny 5 from Short Circuit. I am a Town Doublevoter.
During Thunderstormy days, I will "short circuit" (pun fully intended), and can't use my second vote.

I forgot about the "not Thunderstormy days" part because it's in the description of my role, not my role name itself.
There's no reason for me to lie about it as either scum or town. It was a derp, and that's all it was.

My wagon is bloated and full of scum.

[UberNinja]

and? Barring cop investigations, how much proof does anyone have that anyone is scum?

tell me this: at L-1, why did he have to be asked for a full claim? Why was his reaction WAAAAAAH SO MUCH SCUM instead of "here is everything I know"

You mean this?

Well it appears a foregone conclusion that I'll be lynched.
So, here's my opinion on people (somewhat based on my wagon, somewhat not).

Porochaz - scummier than before...
hasdgfas - scummy all game
Shadoweh - town
DrippingGoofball - town
Amrun - not sure... leaning town
Thestatusquo - probably town
Yosarian2 - scummy
Untrod Tripod - I changed my mind. probably town
Katsuki - ??? much nothing to go on
Tierce - probably town
singersigner - not sure about, leaning scummier
Fate - probably town
kuribo - not sure about either, but worth lynching at lylo
Benmage - probably town
kondi2424 - town
Staeg - scummy

I would not lynch kondi, Shadoweh, or DrippingGoofball if you paid me.
I most prefer to lynch Staeg, Yosarian, cow, and Porochaz.

Again, you are barely worth rolling my eyes at.

[UberNinja]

Catch-up in process.

Bringing me to my next point for

[Amrun]

and Tierce...can you explain to me how Uber's shit read on BBmolla is scum protecting their buddy and not just a shit read? As I brought up with Yos in his Nuwen-defense-comment (later clarified), I felt I was pushing against a BBmolla lynch, too...what makes UberNinja different than me?
(or can someone tell me if I just didn't defend him as much as I thought? like seriously...he's the only person I remember actively defending D1...)

You did not make your case for BBtown from

my

towncase

after I dropped it

. I was convinced BBmolla was town from meta, changed my mind, presented evidence, and UN is claiming my meta towncase was enough to convince him that BB was town from then on. Where have you seen this BS, other than with scum trying to keep a facade of consistency? UN has been claiming that consistent/persistent reads are townlike--and this one seems to have a ridiculously forced excuse.

1. Me: "BB is town, blahblah meta;"
2. Me: "Wait no, he is scum, meta evidence here;"
3. UberNinja: "Tierce's meta towncase on BBmolla makes me think he's town."

He was clinging to

someone else's

outdated case on a player to justify his read. Where have you seen town do this? I've seen scum do it plenty of times, but town? No.

I have also played with BB-town before, and it seemed similar.

You're reaching, and retroactively trying to make your "case" on me seem more damning than it is.

What do you think of my claim?

[UberNinja]

I don't know why you think his sig refers to his work...I think it's more likely to be a hobby.

notsureifsrs.jpg

[UberNinja]

I refuse to believe that. I choose to believe that he breaks into the houses of old people and begins washing them.

Best post of the game so far. Had me rolling.

[UberNinja]

lol

@ Tierce: Your BB-town case was convincing. Your BB-scum case was not.

'Nuff said.

[UberNinja]

That's a pretty crappy defense for why you defended scum, UN. Want to be a little more specific?

Defended scum? I don't recall ever defending BBmolla.

I remember not wanting to vote for him because I thought he was town, but that's about it.

--

Tierce, your whole fight with BBmolla left me feeling that you were both town.

If you look back you can clearly see that I was unsure of both of you at that point, and my reads settled as you switched stances on him from town to scum. I figured you wouldn't make that switch as scum, so you must be town. I then deduced that if you were reading that much into every little thing he did, and trying to extrapolate alignment from every possible mannerism, that you were probably just tunneling and mistaken.
Every bit of what you wrote further corroborated that opinion.

I was genuinely surprised by BBmolla's flip. And yeah I was wrong about him. But that doesn't make me scum.

--

All things considered, what makes me the most mad (aside from kuribo and how he is, obviously) is that Yosarian is going to get town points he doesn't deserve for being off my wagon when I flip town.
And that's wholly unsatisfactory.

[UberNinja]

Lol Tierce. Don't count your chickens before they hatch honey. You're nothing more than a glorified glory-hound.

Do tell me though: When I flip town, who do you think the scum on my wagon are?

And when I flip town, does your opinion on Yosarian change?

[UberNinja]

I'm gonna ignore you from now on kuribo.
You're not worth a reply other than this.

@ Tierce:

If UberNinja flips Scumbag, Yos is not bluescum and Kats is likely bluescum for attempting to derail BBwagon with him.

If UberNinja flips Scumbag

If

If

What's this? I thought you were 100% certain?

[UberNinja]

And since it might have gotten lost in the page break:

Lol Tierce. Don't count your chickens before they hatch honey. You're nothing more than a glorified glory-hound.

Do tell me though: When I flip town, who do you think the scum on my wagon are?

And when I flip town, does your opinion on Yosarian change?

[UberNinja]

That's a pretty crappy defense for why you defended scum, UN. Want to be a little more specific?

Defended scum? I don't recall ever defending BBmolla.

I remember not wanting to vote for him because I thought he was town, but that's about it.

Also, nobody better hammer BBmolla, he is obvtown.

You see, this glorified glory-hound has a near photographic memory and spent several hours dealing with D1 cache fixes. You are not getting away with misreps of what happened.

Ah shit. Looks like I did defend him. I really don't recall saying that; I am basically playing by memory of what happened in the game pre-crash. Glork was able to get me a copy of the game I could read, but I admit I haven't spent much time re-reading it.

But honestly, does that

really

look like something a scumbuddy would say when their partner was at L-1?

Come on now.

I know you're not STUPID, Tierce.

[UberNinja]

I'm gonna ignore you from now on kuribo.
You're not worth a reply other than this.

@ Tierce:

If UberNinja flips Scumbag, Yos is not bluescum and Kats is likely bluescum for attempting to derail BBwagon with him.

If UberNinja flips Scumbag

If

If

What's this? I thought you were 100% certain?

The only ways I'd be 100% certain would be if 1) I had a guilty on you or 2) I was bluescum bussing you. I don't, and I'm not. The hell? Town deals in 'ifs'. Only scum and certain PRs have any degree of certainty, and your attempt to undermine my case because of

wording that is likely to come from town

reeks, again, of bullshit. Your way of arguing smacks of scum caught and flailing.

I'm not trying to call you scum. Not sure where you got that from. I was just trying to show you that you're not 100% sure, but you're putting on a show of bravado and you're acting like you are.

Still though, now that you've overreacted somewhat, I'm having second thoughts about your alignment. u scum girl?

[UberNinja]

I was in DGB's last game... woo <3