Micro 940: A Normal Blitz II - Game Over
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Sorry I was elsewhere that I can't talk about.
I believe shiki here and I think this is enough to get us lynching Umlaut today.-
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A genie tells you I'm town. Who do you think is the scum team?In post 649, Hiraki wrote:yep totally doing it on purpose, no one else saw it-
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Or alternatively.In post 671, Umlaut wrote:GeorgeBailey (5) - Umlaut,HoldenGolden, Hiraki,Hoctac,Datisi
Hiraki (2) -humaneatingmonkey,GeorgeBailey
Datisi (1) - Madoka
Not Voting (1) - shiki-
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Why would mafia be resistant to Hectic's plan? It's the perfect excuse to kill off your neighbor and get townread for it. It's either accept this gambit or ML the town neighbor. Both would flip the town neighbor in such a way that reveals they weren't confirmed, but the other provides an excuse to be seen as town.Madoka wrote:The more that I think about it, the more I think gambit comes from town Umlaut. I think mafia would have been resistant to Hectic's plan, considering the backlash.
I don't know if I do it as both alignments. I can tell you why I reacted the way I did now. If you want to, you can scan my previous town games.In post 686, Madoka wrote:HEM, in Blitz I you reacted to Hiraki scumreading you by scumreading him. You reacted the same here. And reacted the same to me when I asked if you and shiki were partners. Do you tend to do this as either alignment? And if so, would you be able to be able to provide an example of doing so as town?
Who said I stopped? My lynch order is Umlaut and Hiraki, and it's increasingly getting obvious that Hiraki isn't trying to case my slot in good faith.Madoka wrote:Also HEM why did you stop pursuing Hiraki as strongly as you were? Also do you think you may be pushing Umlaut more out of principle than legitimately finding his intentions scummy?
There was no reason not to believe your explanation, and it's an explanation that makes sense even if you're scum. I can see that you're trying to make your POV consistent, and that's fair.Umlaut wrote:I don't like this, you are backing off an explanation given by your top scumread way too fast.-
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Like, don't agree to the gambit, your town neighbor becomes suspicious "why wouldn't he want that?"
Agree to the gambit, and don't kill your partner, your town neighbor becomes suspicious "why wasn't I killed last night?"
Agree to the gambit, and kill your partner, you get towncred.
There's a scum!planation for agreeing to it, and I don't think you should dismiss that.-
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This isn't a flattering town game but I pretty much OMGUS tunneled Sephiroth here.-
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It's a very hard question to answer with 100% certainty because I can only see who I voted and I can't check if it's because they were sus of me in under 3 minutes, so I trust that you'll do the honest digging for me (I want to sleep). You can ask shiki for her meta on me. Although I remember Winter Wonderland like a traumatic event and that's the first thing I'll refer you to.-
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Do you 100% buy this perspective?In post 571, Umlaut wrote:Hoctac's idea was that it would confirm mafia believed the neighbor claim and so the other neighbor was town, but I did point out at some point in the day that if he were scum he could just kill me and use that same argument to "clear" himself if people bought it, so I don"t necessarily expect to be treated as clear. But I know this means Mafia at least thought the claims were likely to be true.-
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I 100% would have joined GeorgeBailey's wagon. You're not wrong there. Hiraki's wagon was going nowhere.In post 702, Umlaut wrote:I have no trouble believing, under the hypothesis that Hiraki is town, that HEM could be the scum looking for a safe way onto the GeorgeBailey wagon.-
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No, I admit I'd have to jump to George at that point. I kinda have no choice. I was on Hiraki's wagon at 2 votes and there was no one else wanting to lynch him. It's deadline, and we needed a lynch. Not that I wanted to lynch him, but we needed to flip something. Datisi just jumped the gun and hammered him first. If someone were to talk to me, I would have given intent.
What I see here is forcing a false dichotomy that lynching GeorgeBailey = bad. I don't think that's true. Gamestate forced us to a single wagon. That's what needs analysis.
Also Hiraki, I'm not the first one to ignore questions from the two of us.-
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I felt like the mason claim is a puppet show, yes.In post 747, Umlaut wrote:Yesterday
you vocally disbelieved the mason claim, and
you said (and maintained today) that if mason claim was a lie then at least one of the claimants was scum.
It seems reasonable to conclude that yesterday you thought I was probably scum. Is this correct? I am going somewhere with this but I'd like you to give a definite answer to this before I continue.
I believe if it's a mason claim, and one flips town-aligned after the mason claim, that it's likely the other is scum. Yes.
Yesterday, I didn't immediately conclude that you were probably scum. Just that if it's a fakeclaim, one would be scum.-
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This is just facts according to Hiraki.In post 743, Hiraki wrote:the facts according to HEM:
1) George is not a bad lynch.
2) George needed intent to hammer before lynching.
3) George was hammered on with someone who did not claim intent which is okay
4) HEM was not able to hammer George before he was aware that George was L-1
the facts according to the thread:
1) George is still not a bad lynch.
2) George did not need intent to hammer before lynching.
3) George was hammered on with someone who did not claim intent which is okay
4) HEM did not hammer George because he was apprehensive about the situation
You're getting ridiculous.
I didn't get off your wagon immediately after it went down to two votes because I was hoping Madoka would join the wagon. I was waiting for her catch-up. It's just that soon after her catch up, Datisi hammers George and I didn't know he was L-1 because there wasn't a VC.
You're not even interested in translating events accurately, are you?-
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I hardbussed 3bounty in Newbie 1996, so is it really that obvious?In post 762, HoldenGolden wrote:Oh and I doubt that Hiraki/HEM is a team too but that's a bit obvious.
Just kidding you don't have anything to be worried about.
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I can't believe Hiraki flipped town. He was playing so fucking bad that he should have been lynched all along since Day 1. His tunnel on me was full of shit that he extrapolated on even more shit. I can't believe you can play as town and really do that to someone. Someone people just have huge fucking egos that they can't accept that they may be wrong even when proven wrong multiple times.
Don't sign up on a game with me again, Hiraki.
Anyway I'm currently sleep-deprived right now after editing a heavy ass video. I'm gonna sleep and re-read after I wake up.-
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i have some shit to do so i dont think soIn post 808, humaneatingmonkey wrote:re-read after I wake up-
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