Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

Y'all post too much

[Not_Mafia]

(upside down question mark)Porque no los dos?

[Not_Mafia]

maybe we should all just sheep n_m.

I agree

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Frost

[Not_Mafia]

Too slow

[Not_Mafia]

Or, do you post too little?

Who posts too little now pengu?

[Not_Mafia]

@mod I posted before you sent the PM, can I have my prod revoked?

[Not_Mafia]

I agree with Menalque

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Something_Scum

[Not_Mafia]

And N_M's vote on me is garbage, even for N_M standards. What's the town motivation in trying to rush an execution on an unimpressive slot that just got replaced by an experienced player, before said player can get involved in the game?

"I'm scum but give me a chance"

[Not_Mafia]

Protest votes are for scum

[Not_Mafia]

Is S_S dead yet?

[Not_Mafia]

I disagree with skitteR

About what?

[Not_Mafia]

SS still scum

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not hammering my magical bear friend and this is a bad wagon

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: BridgeBurners for the sly NM-1

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: implosion

[Not_Mafia]

Nice pagetop

[Not_Mafia]

no i think i'm actually going to keep fighting this because i think your explanations suck

ok! i'm gonna put it in spoilers tho!

Spoiler:

okay whatever get wrapped up in the technicalities, to a significant extent his posts avoided saying anything useful and i tend to find that scummy, the idea that this is an insufficient case for day 1 is ridiculous

like, in theory, hypothetically, as scum, i would press on that anyway but that's only because i, here, as town, mistakenly read it as scummy, the idea that i somehow should not have been reading it that way is stupid because this is how i try to read people and it's not at all dissimilar to how i've tried to read people in other games

it was surface-level scummy, sure, whatever, i agree with you. it. did. not. make. him. scum. tho.
and you definitely know better than to equate Bad Posting with scumminess, so the fact that you *did* is what i find scummy

iioa != scum
bad posting != scum
fencesitting != scum

and it's ridiculous that you're sitting here arguing with me that those things were why you were scumreading aaron.

if you at least were saying: eh idk i don't townread him but it's bad and i don't have anywhere better to go and we're running otu of time so i'll just vote the game i'm underwhelmed by
than like find i'd understand that and think it's a believeable stance
but this is a really, really silly stance to take

and i see later you're complaining about me bop-ing you
yeah it's annoying af and i hate when people do it to me. i agree. but at the same time, it *is* a valid way to read people, and you're halfway decent at this, so vague excuses for shitty scumreads won't cut it, i'm sorry

and i do think that i ahve enuf experience with you to be able to see you can be bop'd; i'm not sure why you think i wouldn't - i've got 3 towngames with you and i read you correctly in all of them; i know what your towngame looks like, and i know your scumgame is very good

again me having a bad read doesn't make me scum, that's complete bullshit, you have no basis to claim i don't "truly believe" this. first reference you made to me being "underwhelming" was 1801, to a significant extent the basis of your read on me was the shit you tried to accuse me of when you outright misrepresented my read

you having a bad read makes you scum when it's a read that i don't think town-you would ever have, yes

getting BoP read pisses me off, having it done by someone i have barely played with and have no track record of success playing with both pisses me off and doesn't make any sense

like, you don't know me, step the hell off. i'm playing like i always do

like i'm not trying to piss you off; i've already said i'm more than happy to stop the bickering if i am
but i think you're scum and i can't just drop the scumread because you don't like that i'm scumreading you
i apologize for pissing you off tho, that is not my intent

i already went into this in 1666 and 1778 where i went over the reasons for voting him. i said i didn't find them convincing then, i don't think they are remotely silimar to why i scumread aaron and you attempting to flatting them into being similar is complete nonsense because you're obviously not really reading into or concerned with the details of the reads

i don't get the difference.
can you eli5 because maybe i'm just missing something super obvious
(and i think it's kinda silly that you're saying i'm 'not concerned with the details of your reads' in response to a question where i ask you to explain the details of your reads)

tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

What am I even supposed to do if no one is at E-1?

[Not_Mafia]

Okay content or whatever

[Not_Mafia]

Ummmmmmm

[Not_Mafia]

{Best Bird}

{Not_Mafia, Schiavetto}

{Bridgeburners, Datisi}

{Something_Smart}

{Petapan, Infinity 324}

{Isis, seCret hYdra}

{Implosion}

{}

Why is no one in your bottom bracket?

[Not_Mafia]

Kthnxbai see you in 47 hours

[Not_Mafia]

Bridge should go

[Not_Mafia]

ffs

[Not_Mafia]

A best bird would be able to fly

[Not_Mafia]

BridgeBurners is a better elim anyway

[Not_Mafia]

Skit/mena should never be a <D3 elim

They should if they're scum

[Not_Mafia]

Let's just assume I have one

[Not_Mafia]

PM me setup questions please. I will not answer setup-related questions in thread.

Why not?

[Not_Mafia]

Why won't the Bridge wagon stick? What could it possibly be?eeee??

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: implosion

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Bridgeburners

Bored of waiting for this

[Not_Mafia]

Bridge still scum

[Not_Mafia]

ooooh

i can be nm

VOTE: Not_Mafia

It's safe for you to vote for Bridge now

[Not_Mafia]

Of little old me?



Who could distrust such a cute, jolly creature?

[Not_Mafia]

I was pretty towny on page 141

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: BridgeBurners

[Not_Mafia]

pedit: was that a lolhammer?

Of course

[Not_Mafia]

But congratulations on limming one of the only slots actually trying to solve the game or giving, huh, what are those again? Reasons for their votes? Wow. Such a scummy thing to do

Congrats guys, great scumhunting!

-QB

Bitter scum

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Secret Hydra

[Not_Mafia]

E-0 etc etc

[Not_Mafia]

Schiavetto should die tomorrow for that disgusting NM-1

[Not_Mafia]

I'm VT, popcorn Schiavetto

[Not_Mafia]

Mafia JOAT (Roleblock, Ninja Kill, Strongman Kill)

s_s died the night you targeted him so i assume they burned the strongman, which they'd have every reason to

the roleblock was used on s_s n1 so it's safe to assume the scumteam were burning through their abilities and the track on NM n2 is meaningless because the ninja was probably used hen

this also mechanically confirms schiavetto as non-joat

This is a lot of things having to happen on particular nights, multiple time to make me the scummiest here. Occams' razor says it's just Datisi and Schiavetto

[Not_Mafia]

From my perspective, it basically has to be Datisi and Schiavetto; will elim either

[Not_Mafia]

Yeah if he's scum we've already lost

[Not_Mafia]

Why Datisi and not me?

[Not_Mafia]

Screams of just wanting to be on the scum elim wagon

[Not_Mafia]

Or Schiavetto is scum and knows no QH is coming

[Not_Mafia]

Look at this crossbussing

[Not_Mafia]

These seem like fun posts to make as scum NM

Are you referring to my posts or Datisi's and Schiavettos?

[Not_Mafia]

Yours

If Schiavetto is scum e is not enjoying it

Is this a comment on my alignment? I don't understand what conclusion I'm supposed to be drawing here

[Not_Mafia]

What if I add sad emoticons and gifs to my post, will that make me town?

[Not_Mafia]

What does that mean in this context?

[Not_Mafia]

[Not_Mafia]

I also have semi-clears just saying

[Not_Mafia]

Maybe show me people to deadsheep about it. You feel off to me also.

come on, you know i can't show you that.

on instinct i think datisi's tone entering today was off but i don't trust my instincts anymore

peta, you said you wanna talk to me, talk to me. what about it was off?

i dont know lol

i need ~something~, i didn't have anything in mind to talk about but if you're town you need to convince me

s i g h
peta i don't know how to convince you. i don't know what makes people read me the way it does.

also i am so tired from mafia because literal two days ago i took a town that was on route to victory and single-handedly torpedoed it into the grand canyon. but i really really don't want it to happen again.

like you were reading me correctly on day one.

later on you accused me of not solving but that's both false and kinda a flawed argument. i was solving where i was able to - the issue was that i'd missed a good chuck of late day 1 which didn't help. but it's also a flawed argument because i know how to fake reads as scum, and bullshitting scumreads isn't difficult. like on day two, iirc there were shitfights around isis, there were shitfights with you and bb. (i'm assuming you're town here bc if you aren't then lol) like i could've taken advantage of those t/t things. instead i'd sat aside, weakly called y'all town, pushed infinity???

day three i actually thought mena was being scummy. me/him/ico have a long history of playing together, and mena prides himself in being able to read ico correctly (i think like every game except their first game together?). the fact that (1) he kept insisting that ico was scummy (2) genuinely wasn't trying to read the parts of the game that i felt were very town!indicative for ico made me think he's scum. it was kinda a dual bop on both me and him wrt reading ico. which was obviously half wrong but it made me think the slot is scum.

like it's hard for me to interact w "idk convince me" bc in vast majority of cases i never actually have to do that - people are convinced themselves. that's why i'm asking you, what is it that you're finding scummy. bc i don't know what else to do and i really REALLY don't wanna be the sole reason why a town has lost a game twice in the same week

tl;dr

[Not_Mafia]

Both

[Not_Mafia]

Or neither, depends how you look at it

[Not_Mafia]

My engagement isn't really tied to my alignment, it's tied to getting good reads, synergy with the player list, even timezones of people playing and if I'm awake for the bulk of activity, if I wake up to ten+ pages every day I'm not going to properly read them, just skim and then shitpost if nothing leaps out at me.

[Not_Mafia]

If you want to vote I won't hammer, I'll let the day play out and give peta the hammer

[Not_Mafia]

Scum trying to lurk out their wagon

[Not_Mafia]

Doesn't announcing it defeat the purpose?

And what if we eliminate Datisi?

[Not_Mafia]

Or they agreed with their partner to let them lead the day and try and lay low

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[Not_Mafia]

- the plist was fire, except for not_mafia (sorry for the callout but, like, come on man)

Jealous