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Only thing that comes to my mind is that Malakittens and Black are probably not both Mafia together, because otherwise even though Black not accepting might make him look towny; it's the opposite for Malakittens.
A second thought that comes to mind is the possibility of Klick trying to make Malakittens look good, but maybe there's some player meta knowledge with regards to Black to I'm unaware of?
I didn't accept because we can't trust fall for 24 hours, otherwise I'd totally be outta here with mala on page 1
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Post #93 (isolation #13) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:33 am
Postby Black »
I guess that's fair but I haven't really done anything with my presence, just some RVS stuff really. You're right about me but I think the way you got there is a little convoluted
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Post #105 (isolation #15) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:03 am
Postby Black »
In post 99, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
Imagining we having consensus 2 townreads, I rather they stayed in the game till the end than go out early.
The closer to the end the harder to make the right choice - so I rather have consensus townies guiding my choices, or at least have someone to talked them out with that I trust.
I don't feel like that scenario is likely though.
This is interesting. I can see arguments for both. I e perk of getting the two towniest people out is we can fully confirm they are town and will then be able to use everything they've posted as guidance
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Post #117 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:26 am
Postby Black »
In post 115, Doctor Drew wrote:
Everyone channeling their inner Ranger and constantly posting reads lists would probably be good, I think Black mentioned using the reads of a conf town who has fallen is a good tool, and constant reads lists would be good to see exactly how their brain is working.
Who the fuck let this version of Drew in the game? Am I actually trying to mech solve the game??
Eww
Hmmm. Constantly posting updated readslist probably helps scum more than town I want to say? But I haven't really thought through it completely. I think scum knowing where everyone stands at all times let's them plan out who they can try to trust fall with. Or am I overthinking?
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Post #137 (isolation #21) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:55 am
Postby Black »
I tried making a list but I don't have many reads. I feel like I naturally townread Klick so that doesn't mean anything to me. The only thing that has given me pause so far is the patch/Ghandi interaction where I got a flashback to the last game I played with patch and they were scum. So I would say I don't trust patch the most so far. Ghandi feels ok
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Post #140 (isolation #22) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:30 am
Postby Black »
He feels inquisitive and a little confrontational, which aren't really big towntells or anything but I think starting the game in this manner is probably a good sign. I like 38, it reads as a genuine thought to me. And it felt like he was trying to sort patch in their interaction. Not super confident in this read but he's ok for now I think
But I really like this game and want to play longer. It would be a shame if our short time spent here together ended this quickly, even if it means we get to frolick off into the sunset together
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Post #162 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:38 am
Postby Black »
What can be taken away from this mala proposal? I think it suggests that either I'm town or we are scum together. Mala could be town or scum regardless of my alignment. I think scum is more likely to try and toss out a trust fall to something they think might accept, but it is mala we're talking about here so personality has to be considered
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Post #164 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:41 am
Postby Black »
Another possibility is that I'm scum that isn't accepting right away to try and get townread, but I don't see the point in that at all if scum's one objective is to leave the game
In post 162, Black wrote:
What can be taken away from this mala proposal? I think it suggests that either I'm town or we are scum together. Mala could be town or scum regardless of my alignment. I think scum is more likely to try and toss out a trust fall to something they think might accept, but it is mala we're talking about here so personality has to be considered
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Post #178 (isolation #35) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:56 am
Postby Black »
I think the only reason scum doesn't accept a trust fall right away is if they think they can influence the game by staying in it. So I'm not cleared by any means. I could definitely do this as scum
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Post #181 (isolation #36) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:15 am
Postby Black »
Even though I enjoy playing as scum, I like winning more. I don't think I would risk staying in the game and doing something scummy to the extent that the trust offer is rescinded. But this is wifom so I don't expect people to take my word for it
In post 95, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
If I was Mafia and someone "confirmed" me town by trusting me, I'd use it as a leverage to try and get a good towny out of the game with me so that it's easier for my ally
In post 179, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
I feel like convincing others of your townyness, as mafia when you've the option to leave instead, in order to manipulate the game more in your favor would be such a hassle; I know I wouldn't.
I find it interesting how important to me is the distinction between the 2
I don't believe that's a possibility in this setup?
I know I read it years ago, and on a different site, but I'm pretty sure that wasn't an option
Otherwise I imagine Trust Fall setups would be full of bait Trusts between simultaneously online players
"A player can only have one trust offer active at a given time. If a player makes a new offer of trust to someone else, their previous offer is automatically rescinded."
In post 154, Skygazer wrote:
black: i trust your ability to read them more than my own tbh
probably, black has played more games with me out of everyone here. though i do recall black "learning how to read me" in our last handful of games and scumreading me every time regardless of my actual alignment xD this is my second game after my break so tbh i hope im still readable to you guys
I had you pinned down in the last game we played. I'm not confident I'll be able to do it again though
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Post #231 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:04 am
Postby Black »
In post 225, Malakittens wrote:
i know I was taking a risk that this is scum black
but the more that the game is going on
the more i'm confident that this is town black
and i made the right decision
now its my turn to prove that i'm town to her
and we will live happily ever after~
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Post #244 (isolation #47) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:52 am
Postby Black »
In post 242, Klick wrote:
The only scum motivation I can see for Mala's play is if she thought she wouldn't get trusted if she didn't do something like this
I don't feel confident but I kinda think it makes Mala likely town
Why couldn't the motivation be to just try and do a quick exit? I said before the voting period opened that the only reason I didn't accept mala's offer was because I couldn't yet. She could have taken that seriously and thought it might work once voting opened up
Only thing that comes to my mind is that Malakittens and Black are probably not both Mafia together, because otherwise even though Black not accepting might make him look towny; it's the opposite for Malakittens.
A second thought that comes to mind is the possibility of Klick trying to make Malakittens look good, but maybe there's some player meta knowledge with regards to Black to I'm unaware of?
I didn't accept because we can't trust fall for 24 hours, otherwise I'd totally be outta here with mala on page 1
Like I think there's a world where scum!mala sees this and thinks she has a shot
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Post #251 (isolation #50) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:18 am
Postby Black »
I think that is assuming mala knows and understands the setup, and realizes that trying to trust fall me early would cause people to sus her. I'm not sure I'm willing to assume all that in order to townread her
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Post #254 (isolation #51) » Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:37 am
Postby Black »
I understand. I guess I'm looking at it as low risk/high reward. If it fails I don't think it's the end of the world for scum!mala, and if it succeeded then scum have a huge advantage right out of the gate
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Post #295 (isolation #54) » Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:13 am
Postby Black »
Just a heads up I won't be around much this weekend. I would accept the mayor position if everyone agreed
Right now I'm feeling like mala, Merlyn, and patch might be the riskiest options to pair with people. Nothing much here other than their eagerness to trust fall. I could easily be wrong about them
Alianna is pinging me too for some reason and I can't really explain it. Maybe LAMIST? Less so than the three above
I'm most confident in skygazer and Drew atm but the confidence isn't very high here. That's typical me though. Ghandi feels ok I think
Klick feels ok but I'm always wary here so I think we wait it out. His eagerness to get people out of the game could be a bad sign but not necessarily one
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Post #358 (isolation #57) » Sun Sep 24, 2023 8:34 am
Postby Black »
I'm town <3
I think Klick is probably town? I don't see why scum!Klick would go along with an early scumread on mala just to switch up and townread her. I think scum want to scum read town players to sow doubt. I don't understand the benefit of doing this if Klick is scum
I still don't really trust patch or Merlyn but my reads aren't great there. If patch doesn't accept Klick's trust then they are probably town I would say
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