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Tierce how many times are you going to turn a game into night phase when I'm not looking? >:<
Also users browsing the forum doesn't mean they're reading this thread. I'm not sure if I'm glad I missed temporary insanity hour or not. Now I'm going to be reading another thread, so try not to panic when I don't immediately reply to you.
Tierce being red scum is possible, but in my opinion she's the same town-Tierce I was playing with before.I HATE YOU SO MUCH PLEASE GO JUMP INTO A FREEZING LAKE - Mr. Freeze
And this was like me realizing that you were a serial killer. - Hathor
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In post 1012, Fate wrote:meh just for Tierce maybe
Not a roleblocker.
Hitokiri Battousai, Town Foggy Vigilante
Can only kill during fog conditions to cover up my kills blah blah.
Killed KONDI because I didn't care what he flipped and he was basically a policy vig. If I KNEW we had a coroner I would've shot one of my actual scumreads, like Amrun or Shadoweh.In post 1020, Tierce wrote:No.
No no no no no.
Fate, you don't get to "policy vig" people who are obvtown.
You're better than this.In post 1023, Tierce wrote:UUUUUGH LET ME THINK
DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID KAY
I promise content in a few hours. Other stuff calls for attention elsewhere and I need to look at this with critical eyes because Fate has been buddying me for ages now and UGH.In post 1033, Fate wrote:FUCK OFF UT IF I AM TO DIE IT IS BY TIERCES HAND
Conclusion: Amrun, you're silly. You're very likely to be town, but you're being silly.
9 players alive, a possible roleblocker/doc (we have a dead doc, but there were no deaths last night, so something happened almost for sure), and we're assuming two scum.
Is it me or can we PoE from here on out? Massclaim feasible? I'm busy so I can't math this right now, but it doesn't exactly seem we're in trouble--this looks like a 9p 7:1:1 with several living town PRs.
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Because I've wanted Fate to die for four days and it happened while I wasn't here. I never get to do anything fun.
I don't think we can just PoE. If there's a town mislynch today, two kills makes it into a super awkward lylo where town is 90% screwed.I HATE YOU SO MUCH PLEASE GO JUMP INTO A FREEZING LAKE - Mr. Freeze
And this was like me realizing that you were a serial killer. - Hathor
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..Or I can't count because I keep turning 7 into 4 and taking the scum from there. We have another mislynch available.I HATE YOU SO MUCH PLEASE GO JUMP INTO A FREEZING LAKE - Mr. Freeze
And this was like me realizing that you were a serial killer. - Hathor
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By PoE, I don't mean lynch-lynch-gogogo. Scumhunting = important. I'm just wondering if we can start sorting out night results and go from there. We can figure sort out town/redscum/bluescum from interactions.
Assuming 7:1:1:
-- If we mislynch today, we go into N5 in 6:1:1;
-- If there are two kills and no crosskills N5, we go into D6 in 4:1:1;
-- If we mislynch D6, we go into N6 in 3:1:1;
-- If there are two kills and no crosskills N6, we go into D7 in kingmaker 1:1:1.
Bleagh to that, but it's a worst case scenario. If we lynch scum today, it would make things much easier (no rly, captain obvious).-
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You, like Fate, wanted to focus on finding bluescum and ignoring redscum. That's obvious scum motivation for redscum. Fate did it as self preservation and you could have as well.
More than that, though, you fencesat on the Fate lynch hard. He's scummy, you said, but then came up with a ton of ways to stall the lynch as long as possible.
In post 980, Tierce wrote:Can we please not consider ending this day before Glork chimes in on yesterday's ill-timed lynch? We can have factors at play here.
In post 1001, Tierce wrote:...then what was I asked to explain? O_o I thought it was my vote.
Is it the roleblocker demands? I'm asking because kuribo claimed to have been blocked by Fate N1, yet Fate's voting pattern D2 does not match 'roleblocker who thinks he blocked a kill' (regardless of Fate's alignment), and you were the one who started off D2 voting kuribo, so you might match the roleblocker role, if it exists.
I am not voting Fate until Glork gets in here and explains what happened with Staeg. I'm making a scumread known, and placing a vote on her that won't make this day end just yet.
Examples above. When Glork DID clear this issue up, you still did not vote Fate.
When you asked Fate if he was a roleblocker, you gave him the answer you were looking for ("no") instead of waiting to see what he would answer without that influence him. You only asked ME after the fact.
In post 1020, Tierce wrote:No.
No no no no no.
Fate, you don't get to "policy vig" people who are obvtown.
You're better than this.
This post is really weird. It's written from the perspective that you believe Fate is town and possibly the vig, but don't come right out and say so. Saying he's "better" implies he's town, instead of scum, as obvious. No vote, still.
You only vote after I point out that he's backtracked on himself.
Super overreaction. You dragged your feet on this wagon until you were the hammer vote, despite ostensibly "supporting" it the whole time. Then, when you DO vote, you're like OMG FATE YOU'RE SUCH OBVIOUS SCUM.
In post 1034, Tierce wrote:Booyah.
Fate and Reck as scumbuddies? Good grief.
Also good to know there is still more redscum ('we'), thanks Fate.
The bolded is more fakey overreacting.
Your interaction with the Fate wagon REEKS of a bus. REEKS of it.-
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In post 61, Tierce wrote:In post 60, Yosarian2 wrote:In that last vote-count especally, both Kats and Shadoweh look bad; if Kats is scum with BB, then it's quite possible Shadoweh is also scum, and they just wanted to avoid been seen on the same wagon together.
Balancing multiscum is hard.
Balancing uneven multiscum is worse.
Are you suggesting aBBmolla/Katsuki/Shadowehteam, withReck/???on the other side? If it'sBBmolla/Katsuki/Shadoweh+Reck/???/???, we started off with14:3:3. That seems a bit brutal. On the other hand, ifHenchman=Goon, so far we have low-powered scum and quite a bit of assumed-town power--dayvig, limited doublevoter, conftown limited doc; a higher number of scumroles might account for this apparent townpower. Prozac Basic Theme was 20 players 14:3:3, so it wouldn't be new.
I guess I just don't want to think we may have to lynch scum 4 more times if there are no crosskills. >.>
This is a perfect example of something I forgot to mention. Your scumhunting is EXCLUSIVELY for the bluescum team. You guess members at the blue scum, but not the red scum, for absolutely no reason.
In post 189, Tierce wrote:In post 161, Amrun wrote:In post 154, Fate wrote:War in Heaven just finished in which you crossbussed with Magua which was so unlikely and unviable a move for scum that people had Magua pegged as town for a long fucking time. You're reaching, no BEGGING for your BBM bus to get the same credit
Uh, no it did not... It got abandoned. That game would have gone on for several more months had the crash not happened. That logic is fucking terrible.
You don't even know who did and did not try to start a counterwagon, so don't pretend to have a grasp of this game.
I haven't made up my mind on you yet, no, and that's fine with me. I don't have an opinion on everyone in a game this large so early, and that doesn't bother me.
And what has the fact that WiHIII was 'abandoned' instead of 'finished' influence Fate's statement of what happened with you and Magua? Why is Fate's logic "fucking terrible"?
You go out of your way to defend Fate when I say his logic is bad, so quick that you miss that he defended himself. Why were you so concerned about the perception of Fate?
In post 632, Tierce wrote:Town:
DrippingGoofball (from singer)
NotScumbag:
Amrun? (from BB's interactions; that "I think she's town" is not-buddy BB)
Fate (from VCA)
Porochaz (my own BBscum meta read)
Yosarian2 (from VCA)
You clear Fate based on VCA with no explanation ... along with Yosarian, an almost universal townread.
In post 764, Tierce wrote:Amrun: Wrong answer. You should be willing to lynch bluescum over redscum, we have more bluescum dead and we want to eliminate a kill.
Why do YOU think Poro may bebluescum?
Just a quote to back up my earlier statement of you pushing bluescum over redscum - on faulty logic that both Yosarian and myself pointed out.-
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If Tierce isn't lynched today based on this, then it will be a travesty.-
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There's a reason I said Fate was better than that, Amrun. I meta some people hard, and I follow Fate's games. I did not expect this massive derping.
No, I did not notice the surplus of vigs until it was pointed out. I was legitimately shocked with the whole thing--my main reaction was as to why a vig would shoot a player I considered obvtown (kondi). I was trying to understand what was going on and not rush the day into night until there was a clarification from Glork.
Have you noticed how long the whole thing took? 20 minutes. The moment I understood the implications, I voted Fate. If I were bussing, I would have had a far easier time understanding the situation and spotting who had died and what reported actions didn't make sense. Instead, I took a few minutes to get the implications.
I'm not going to lie--I have very few reliable scumreads here, I have trouble reading the surviving players.
Yes, I was delaying the lynch because I was trying to figure out what was apparently wrong with the votecountsthat I had been asked to postand I wanted to reread the game. I dwell on these things. Other than the scum who caused it, I was the only one (dead at the time, at that) who noticed a lynch threshold alteration in Tiger MetaTiger, for example. I'm obsessed with this kind of detail when I don't see a possible explanation for it.
PEdit: I cleared Fate as NOT SCUMBAG. I cleared him as NOT BLUESCUM. Let me grab VCA to show why this came up. I never cleared him as not redscum.
People have said, iirc, that SK's interactions with Reck were incriminatory. I missed that. I was not hunting specifically for redscum. Yes, I could clear people from bluescum via VCs because there were two flipped bluescum--Reck died too early to make much of an effect in the wagons and clear people via votecounts.
Also, do go back and see how Fate was buddying me.-
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